Large Normal 232—Sibyl's Elegy [GAME OVER]

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Cabd is completely out of the game. 4 days... maybe townie

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Or maybe just because of weekend

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anyways, after ndmath inevitably scummily hammers me, go :

Anastasia>NDMath>Vasex>Andres

There is no cabd here

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VOTE: NDMath

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Because you are screaming to make e-1, i dont trust you, you can be with Andre.
And nobody of these people (dgb,kitty,sam) asked me where to vote.
And we can give cabd a chance to speak. At least tomorrow.
And xp is town, he asked to vote ana,nd,andre. I can vote any of them

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And cabd can be town or scum, 50/50. Idk

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I remember that

Std sred Cabd
Dunn sred Std
Cabd sred Dunn

What does it mean i dont fuckin know but maybe smb can use it somehow

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as far as vasex n ndmath i have read their isos many times n i would be surprised if they r mafia

Or maybe im wrong
He also considered sam and nero townies

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marky mark or anastasia was gonna be my night 3 check tonight

Can this be a reason why he was killed?

Enough. Rathe and Xp sred Anastasia
VOTE: Anastasia

Time has come

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And nobody of these people (dgb,kitty,sam) asked me where to vote.

You voted 5 minutes 38 seconds after you said that. Do you think that was enough time for any of them to respond??

What? Whats the problem with that? I can vote anytime again and again forever

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Anybody's reads are better than mine now, i missed too much and i made many mistakes

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I like distancing. If i were mafia i would do it every day, especially when dead roles are known. I play this game many years. This is extremly shitty game for me if im scum, too suicidal

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It is strange you say so not knowing roles of cabd, ndmath, ana and andre

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I can vote cabd. Now i go to sleep

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Ugh, i dont know, i can vote ndmath and cabd. Protecting enchant, if he is town, is a good point.

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Because t3 had some votes there already

Tge problem is if enchant is with ana and t3

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Why won't you elim cabd?
He has only 1 idea - to elim you. The whole game
Is it so towny for you?

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I will vote cabd if he doesnt vote anastasia in 24 hours.

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I dont understand this kind of play.

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Maybe even in 12 hours.

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Mark, i was lushing std my 99% scum from the beginning of the second day. Remember my first post in that day. Analysis of t3 actions and around him, big post. There i had scums std 99% and xp and anya. So i was pushing std the whole day, it doesnt matter when i voted

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Pushing

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Ok im fully ready to vote cabd or ndmath.
Who is more scum?

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VOTE: NDMath

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I dont believe Andre

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If it should be received in pm, i didnt receive it

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Lets kill NDMath and if it is scum the next one - Andre

I dont understand mechanics, where is the fruit you sent to Samantha

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Vasex 1027
WindowsXP 568
Andresvmb 363
Rathe 324
Nero Cain 281
Marky Mark 277
Anastasia 275
Kerset 201
Enchant 197
DrippingGoofball 195
samantha97 187
Save The Dragons 174
Cabd 167
bloodhail 159
KittyTacky 138
Etine 131
Almost50 118
Dunnstral 115
The Bulge 99
T3 95
Anya 94
NDMath 20
DeathNote 18
DkKoba 16
Artemiana 8
deep-city-lights 5
PookyTheMagicalBear 1
Gypyx 1
Momrangal 1

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im just the best of the best

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Here's high possibility of 1 mafia in Samantha/Andre/Kitty. So we need vote one of them. Forget about Math.

I will decide who first later, i need read ISO and i don't have will to do it right now.

When?

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Should i elim him?

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*sigh* i dont know, kitty

I can hammer him if more people ask me to do it
Though im not sure about reasons why to elim him
If he is so good player... idk

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Cabd sred Dunn, Dunn fliped scum. Now he srs Ana and Math.
Ndmath sred some townies. He srs Andre and Cabd.
At least cabd sred 1 scum. But both of them elimed none.
Xp didnt trust ndmath, though rathe thought ndmath is town.

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as far as vasex n ndmath i have read their isos many times n i would be surprised if they r mafia

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marky mark or anastasia was gonna be my night 3 check tonight

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And now mark and ana vote cabd, ugh...
Maybe mark is a scum?

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You know, kitty, just remember floo from our first game, typical mafia with many bigposts

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And now mark and ana vote cabd, ugh...
Maybe mark is a scum?

They vote ndmath, sorry

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Agree That Enchant/Kitty appear scum/scum. I'm struggling to wrap my mind around a townie who wants to trick people into quickhammering before the claim but doesn't stick with that goal after the claim. I have mixed thoughts on the claim itself though.

Spoiler: these two posts are the worst of the bunch

OMG I HAVE A CAKE NEXT TO MY NAME

WORSHIP ME

by unvoting kitty and going after the real scum here, Cabd

Did you miss the part when Enchant scumslipped?

I don't want how to tell you.

But it was trick, so i could hammer him. Now it's not like i want too though.

Nice hammer, you killed your cop. Vig on Vasex.

Scumreading Samantha and Anya more now for similar reasons. In particular I don't see 704 as at all a scummy post. They've each had quite static and unexpansive reads for the amount they've posted, though this applies moreso to sam. ie 976 "Kitty's reaction bad" and "No scumslip", neither of these are even plausibly gonna change anyone else's opinions, and there's nothing for either Kitty or T3 to argue with.


I'm townreading kerset now, the fake hammer test (845 and 846) is something that comes from town. Specifically because of how straightforward and not overdone it was.

VOTE: samantha97

NDmath feels very stiff this game and I don't really agree with some of the things he says

So, scumlean

dunn was defending "traitor" t3, but at the same time he pushed ndmath

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VOTE: Andresvmb

I get that you're sick but this seems night and day from brutality

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Cabd attacks people, which he knows very well. Arte and Dunn.
The only question is it because he really sure he found scums, or just worried about that they can easily find him knowing him too...?
Buuuut... talking about the second option. Neither Artemiana(and Anastasia), nor Dunn were suspecting Cabd... Artestasia's scumreads: mark,vasex,etine,ndmath,samantha. Dunn scumread mostly only STD.... This is std scumreads cabd, but dunn scumreads std, not cabd... "what has cabd done?", "exactly"
Well , this is a quite strange tactic for cabd-scum to attack Artestasia and Dunn, who are not dangerous for him at all.
Maybe only one exception: if they are dangerous for his partners. But their voices are not too loud and they cannot create a wagon to ndmath or std ... so... it seems cabd is town really. Or just sick/crazy, like fond of fonding difficulties for himself, attacking his allies.
Though Dunn has voted Andre, then Kityy voted Andre, but still cabd was waiting rather long with no real danger for Andre...

I think cabd is town

I want cabd's take too

The game was abandoned but a large part of day 1 still happened

what does it mean? He say cabd is town, right?

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I like this. Specifically, posts 106 and 174 look like traitor softs to me

He loved the ndmath's idea that a50 is a traitor. This happened after t3 flipped red

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This makes the assumption that Cabd is town, but sure

Maybe strange

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Dunn sred ndmath and defended t3 at the same time, then he loved ndmath's idea about a50 is a traitor... he also said that cabd is town. And cabd didnt elim dunn...
So maybe cabd is not so bad option

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And dunn didnt vote cabd

His votes on day1: std,kitty,andre

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I dont know. Looking on defending of the traitor t3, it looks like dunn didnt bus at all. Maybe there is no distancing at all in his iso?

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{DGB, Kitty}
{vasex, XP, kerset, Marky, Math}
{Etine, Rath}

Not willing to touch any of those piles at least for a few days after a re-read of the game events.

You said you wouldnt touch ndmath

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Where is the moment, when ndmath became red for you, cabd?

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It seems cabd is voting ndmath only to save himself

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The SR from Dunn on ND is fairly weak.

Is there anything in ND's iso that makes you think he is town?

Nothing. But rathe saw smth. I can trust his opinion i guess.
The moment when dunn admired the ndmath's idea about a50 is a traitor - can dunn and ndmath be in one team in this moment?

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DGB, what do you think? I can trust only you in our wagon...

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@STD

Who is scum now?

Cabd, Dunnstral, Kerset, Samantha

maybe vasex, maybe ndmath, maybe anastasia

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If cabd is town... sam will have too many mistakes... ana will have big problems...

If cabd is scum... maybe there was a plan of cabd and enchant for cabd to claim vt after "fakehammer"

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T3 said cabd is hard town... ugh

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?? I am very confused by this, can you elaborate?

This moment can be bad. This is about samantha's vote to t3

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I don't think T3's claims are out of line with his play, and I agree with him specifically about enchant. And his current play doesn't at all match what a traitor would be going for.
VOTE: enchant

The same post

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Why is checking T3 even in consideration for you?


On Andres, I don't like him wanting to elim a cop today, and I don't like his proposed pool for the cops to check in. The other major thing he did was get frustrated at vasex.
VOTE: Andres


This is what the game looks like to me:
Vasex samantha Kerset
Windows T3 Rathe
Nero Mark Dragons Anya
Anastasia Dunnstral

DGB dcl A50
Etine Cabd Andres
Enchant Kitty

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I don't think vasex/anastasia interaction is w/w and would sooner look at the latter.

What does it mean w/w?
Also you are scumreading ana at this moment

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VOTE: Cabd

Rrreally?
You said so many times he is town...
Yiu are gambling your life he is town...
And then you are voting him...
And why dont you vote him now?

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Here’s my thinking - I think Cabd might very well flip Scum. I think {bloodhail, Vasex} are bringing up the role conversation because they may want to prevent whatever is happening and instead get rid of me. I am also tired of pretending Vasex is Town - every bad push, they’re there. And the vote for T3 was a late one that was very likely bussing after T3 was looking like the execution.

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I’ve been pretty pinged by T3, would blow it up. {Cabd, WindowsXP, NDMath} seem like Town to me so far.

I strongly encourage this Town to not execute Cabd. They claimed VT right? Leave it alone for today. Let’s find another target.

Nero Cain – Why U mad tho? I don’t think Nero gets into it with Koba as S-S, or as S-T… and I think KOba is town, soooooooo…. T-T? Yeah. T-T.

Kerset – 50% secret meta read, 50% just fucking open the ISO, noobs.

Marky Mark – Maintain the miller claim is town here. Additionally maintain that the way Marky is wading into the game is town indicative for him.


Tier Two Reads – “Those off the table for me today, wheeeeeeee~”Etine – Claimed pseudo protective. Giving it Time.

KittyTacky – Claimed Investigative, Giving it Time.

Okay hahahaha this is hogwash. Maybe I shouldn’t have interrupted this wagon, this reads list is horrific.

^ just smth strange, like a joke

I would gamble my life in this game that Cabd is Town, that Nero’s push is shit. I’m also fairly certain that Vasex you’re Town. That’s also why a wagon built on you after T3 started attracting a lot of attention again. I need to find the time to look at those developments more carefully to find other Scum, and just read the game see what pings. But even A50 backtracked on me because of how ridiculous they look after reading my ISO.

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VOTE: Cabd

Rrreally?
You said so many times he is town...
Yiu are gambling your life he is town...
And then you are voting him...
And why dont you vote him now?

He thinks you are cursed and always wrong

how is it connected with me? He just votes his very townie cabd

Btw i agree with your other arguments

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And im voting ndmath now. Why he doesnt elim cabd?

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Too long waiting with his anastasia vote. He is just hoping to avoid the result of elimination or what?

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Nero is somehow checked or what? I dont remember for sure lol.
There was good point that if he is town he can be right about cabd

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I think im ready to vote cabd

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Bullshit.

VOTE: NDmath

You said you wont vote math-cabd
And asked not to vote them
What did change your mind?

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6 6 if im not mistaking

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Ok enchant was 99% sure cabd is town

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Nero, should i vote Cabd?
DGB, should i stay on NDMath?

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Im rather sick of cabd's excuses why he cannot play, he cannot reach a computer, etc etc. But i'll wait patiently. I'll wait...

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I haven't been here for a while so here is beautiful a rainbow in return

Kerset
Marky Mark
Nero Cain

Dunnstral
Etine

WindowsXP
[DeathNote]
Save The Dragons

[deep-city-lights]
Cabd
[Artemiana]
[Andresvmb]

Rathe
samantha97
[DrippingGoofball]

T3
Vasex

Enchant
KittyTacky

[NDMath]
Anya

People with critically low post count are in brackets.

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Oh, hammered already. I hope im in tge right wagon.

Cant find smth usefull from kersets iso about cabd and ndmath, only this early rainbow

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Maybe they are both mafia

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Kitty, you are strange. Maybe the rest of players are sleeping now because of time zones

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Why are you not so patient, kitty? If one of them is town the hammer could be made by scum to townie to save the partner... this was perfect situation with 6 6...

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He couldnt, his vote was on cabd

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I will say kekekeke if im in the right wagon accidently))
But honestly i have a bad felling, remembering how dunn talked with ndmath about a50 and how dunn sred ndmath defending t3, these moments are so important

If he is town, the vote of cabd is so awful

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Are you so sure because you are not 1shot?

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Next time i'll elim smb.

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VOTE: Cabd

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VOTE: Cabd

If cabd flips scum, Enchant and smb among Anastasia/Mark are scums probably...

where is the fruit? this is about Andre and Samantha... And about A50, who is so sure, that Andre is town... Though I think he is town because dunn tried to support ndmath’s idea, that almost50 is a traitor

bloodhail has a good scumlist - {cabd, enchant, anastasia, ndmath, andres}, I think he is town.

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bloodhail, remind your checks

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Oh cool, I'm gonna die AND we're gonna get confirmed scum tomorrow in bloodhail.

That's workable.

I sucked but at least scum was misplaying and thinking they needed to lie about my role to murder me when town woulda done it without.

i dont think scum bloodhail would lie now to elim you and then himself, this is too stupid)

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bloodhail, why did you check cabd? not anyone else..

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bloodhail is confirmed town, it was so stupid for me to vote checked ndmath, i didn't understand it and didn't notice the claim at all or just forgot it... it is like to vote dgb...
Kitty is also town.

Cabd > Enchant (?) > Ana/Mark > Samantha/Andre ?

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bloodhail, why did you check cabd? not anyone else..

resistance to him being wagoned despite the fact no one really townread him

this was a bad check
it would be good if he was town

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Get one more person to vote me, and then I'm self hammering and proving this false fyi.

this little promises doesnt work with me

though i dont want to end the day immediately

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Cabd, if you are town, what about Enchant and Anastasia?

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And please make a night faster, what are you doing 48 hours? 1 minute for decisions is enough

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I have some ready text for the situation "if Cabd flips scum"

Spoiler:

If Cabd is scum, Enchant is probably scum (and there was their plan about fakehammer and fakeclaim on cabd’s 1st elim). Enchant was so sure that Cabd is town - 99% the whole game. Nero was sure Cabd is scum. I have also many other arguments about Enchant from the first day. I can add to this his fresh words: “Here's high possibility of 1 mafia in Samantha/Andre/Kitty. So we need vote one of them. Forget about Math.”, “Bullshit. VOTE: NDmath”.
The big problem with Enchant is that he has too good bussing with T3. This is not only about trying to elim each other, but also it was Enchant who talked about the role of T3 in his previous game…
And the last one is among Anastasia/Marky.
If Cabd flips scum, he had a distancing with Dunn (scum), and it means that he could have distance with Anastasia too. Anastasia had password issues and she was defending Enchant before t3’s elimination, I didn’t like her defending of Enchant (he explained his vote… ugh… I don’t like his explanation). It can be a nice trio Cabd-Enchant-Ana, and you defend each other, even Cabd said he won’t elim you because of a fanfic, oh come on! And we should remember Artemiana’s first scum list: mark,etine,vasex, so Anastasia probably is not with Mark. Only 1 of them maybe is a scum.
I need to mention that Mark hasn’t participated in any of Cabd’s or Dunn’s votings. though he was voting T3 rather early in that final wagon.

, but there are some problems with any of them, and
we really really need to solve the fruit's mystery
is it confirmed that 1 scum is among samantha/andre??
i cannot move further without solving it

so it is:
1 scum among cabd/bloodhail
1 scum among samantha/andre

am i right?

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A Jailkeeper (or Jailer)'s Night Action is one that protects its target from kills, but also Roleblocks its target.

So Andre could be roleblocked by DGB, right?

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w/e

i dont' understand w/e and w/w thing, what does it mean?

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yeah scums should be sure that cabd would be elimed today, they have no necessity to lie about his check in this situation right now

unless... this is some kinda master plan for bloodhail, the partner of cabd. i don't believe it though... though it is difficult for me to understand why to check cabd

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w/e

from my pov it's like this:

{dgb, nero, kitty} are all conf town
{samantha, almost 50} are very likely town
{vasex, marky mark} are townreads

leaves a POE of {cabd, enchant, anastasia, ndmath, andres}

i think andres role ccs mine
ndmath i know is vanilla
cabd is offering basically nothing

VOTE: cabd

good going everyone great job voting against the wagon with all the conftown on it

cabd is not vanilla

VOTE: cabd

these posts are one after another. i see no big reason to check the target, that is 99% scum in your understanding. because if it appears scum, this check is useless for you and for some townies, who were ready to vote either cabd or ndmath.

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enchant, ana, marky, andre
well first two of them, if they are vt
samantha maybe...

btw why are you still alive? they could kill you instead of dgb... did dgb claimed jailkeeper? maybe kitty said it? i think no. did they check dgb somehow? without a t3-cop?

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so they worried more about dgb than about your check, bloodhail... this is rather strange. cabd is a bad choice, but from their POV u could check any other of them, they should be worried about that more than about even w/e dgb...

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if bloodhail is true, they probably knew that dgb is roleblocker, think about it
i dont know how, i dont read the roles much

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so the situation is:

- Blood is true, cabd is scum. It can be true.
- Blood is scum, cabd is scum. Can it be true? Is he alive because dgb was rolechecked somehow?
- Blood is scum, cabd is town. Too stupid for Blood, i dont believe it.
- Blood is town, cabd is town. Impossible obviously.

So Cabd should be a scum.
Anastasia and Enchant were too wrong about him.

But we shouldn't hurry.

And we have the problem with a fruit.
Again some options:
- Andre is true, Sam is not vt, that's why there is no fruit. Is she pr (too many, I think)? Or she is a scum? (hard to believe, but it can be true).
- Andre is true, but he was roleblocked by smb. By jailkeeper DGB? In that case Sam also can be town or scum, any of them.
- Andre is scum, Sam is vt. It can be true.
- Andre is scum, Sam is scum. ???

i dont think we have any conclusion here, every option can be true at least in theory, talking about Sam/Andre.

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yeah, i dont believe bloodhail is scum with cabd. but we need to think about everything

though 48 hours... they had to make some plan for cabd in this situation... what did they expect? that we will find another one except cabd?
so what is this plan? to bus with cabd or what?
where is smth like a mafia plan in the thread?
even if he is town, is it their plan to check him? bloodhail is not going to be hanged to risk so much claiming like that... there is no sense in anyone's actions here...
or maybe cabd had some sort of plan, but it was ruined by an unexpectable check?
idk

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im not sure vasex, b/c someone thats confirmed town and has the ability to block shots vs. unconfirmed that finds out if ppl are vanilla or not doesn't seem like its much of a threat if like most of the rest of the scum team are goons.

i dont understand. do you mean they knew the role of dgb? because if they dont, blood is more dangerous for them...

and about the "that finds out if ppl are vanilla or not doesn't seem like its much of a threat if like most of the rest of the scum team are goons."... i have a new thought: maybe the rest mafia claimed not vanilla??? for example andre, mark... and maybe only 1 vt ana/enchant... what do you think?

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Cabd, you can look for his partners. You was so sure about Ana, then you decided not to elim her because of fanfic, now what's your reason?

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FYI- marky's miller claim no longer makes sense with flipped and claimed investigative power.

{blood, marky, one more} ??? Maybe pooks.

Will self terminate today 100%. We can't leave me alive going into endgame. Nero votes for me every time and that's GG in XYLIM.

where is Ana?

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the day should last at least 48 hours

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Enchant, cabd is confirmed scum. Not 99% town, as you said.

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Thats why you will be probably elimed tomorrow because of that.
Who is with Cabd, if you are not?

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Why? Enchant is possible scum for you, what's wrong with my post?

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Cabd, I will listen to your opinion only if you flip green. There is no much chance for that, as we can see logically.

But you shouldnt speed up the day, this is not helpful

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Ok, Enchant, maybe you are townie. Who is mafia?
Ana? Mark? Andre? Sam? Me?

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A50?

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Andre, did you have only 1 fruit?

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I’m a Simple Fruit Vendor. I sent Fruit to Rathe N1, Etine N2. I was mildly suspicious of Etine after the execution of STD so I wanted to check that slot. Turns out they died anyway.

And 3nd is to Samantha...
Where is your 4th fruit?

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The player I handed fruit to last night has already posted. And appears not to be claiming it. So like I suspected, my role has become utterly useless.

So you think that sam and new fruit's receiver are town prs claimed vt or what?

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Where is the fourth fruit? Claim it

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Nero or Enchant?

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Andre, is Cabd mafia with Blood?
Because if Cabd is not mafia, why Blood said that Cabd had been checked? Was it so necessary?

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Ok, who is with Blood?
And you said that your role is useless... Why do you think that?

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Mafia roleblocker? Dgb blocked you twice?

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The reason bloodhail is clear Scum btw is because I’m the same role basically but I’m being interfered with in order to bolster bloodhail’s claim. I don’t actually know whether Cabd is Scum or not (and it could be a bus that basically gets me killed next and sets us up for a loss), but I would feel a hell of a lot better if bloodhail was executed. Outside of that, you guys do what you want. At some point someone will use their brain and think a little deeper about what’s happening.

you are too worried about that now. asking to kill you, why? too much drama
we have 1 confirmed scum among blood and cabd. in the worst scenario we need to elim both, if the first one is town.
so we need to elim cabd first. i see no big problems about this too. and if cabd flips scum you have big problems

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my actual report is that vasex is vanilla, but thats useless so i wanted to test cabd

wow

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as for why i checked vasex: hes not in my POE but i didnt want to possibly be wrong on him, so if he was mafia PR hiding as a VT i would catch him. i would never check in my scum reads because they could easily be mafia goons so checking them is useless

this is even more stupid check than to check cabd
i was town for you
omg
very weird

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Ana? Enchant? And if you are checking your townies - why not Mark?

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You can't possibly believe I would need a fake guilty to kill you.

I dont understand. Did you know that it was a fake?

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ok VOTE: bloodhail

And why did you vote bloodhail, Sam?

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Nero, what do you think?

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- bloodhail and cabd are both scums
- bloodhail is scum, cabd is town, andre is true or not? probably yes
- bloodhail is true, andre is probably scum, cabd is what?

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UNVOTE: Cabd

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Andre, when you are talking that im wrong, could you please tell me exactly in what im wrong except your role (if im wrong in it)?
With quotes please.

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Neroooo, what do you think?))_

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VOTE: Anastasia

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Ana, you are the only one who has no good explanation for me that you cannot be with scums. The others really have it, different reasons.
Maybe the only reason for you to be not with t3, when he said to you that miller is normal role, he could do it in mafia chat.
But maybe you are a traitor idk.
And as I can see you can be scum in both situations: if cabd is scum or town...

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Distancing.
Almost everybody here lynched or tried to lynch at least 1 scum, so scums are bussing definitely.

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Easy so. Because he didn't pushed you hard all these days, so do you. He said that you can be scum only under the pressure when he could be elimed.

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In that case Anastasia is a scum. Andre is town.
You are trying to set Andre against me.

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In that case I can probably vote Bloodhail. But I need to think about it. We elimed his checked NDMath, now to elim him... I dont like it and I need to think more

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I was fucking right about Artemiana/Anastasia. I will reread who was arguing with me about that

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bloodhail, tell me, what did you think about kitty's and t3's claims? why kitty was so towny for you? you are a cop, there are two other cops, is it ok for you?

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Townys entrance from Ana. I would rather not vote LHF slots day1 right now.

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Yeah, 44th post... And you both voted me to elim.

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I lock my vote on Ana. This is a scum. I dont know who else, but this one is definitely.

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If you believe bloodhail is aligned with mafia, how did he know NDMath is a vanilla townie? We already have a flipped mafia cop, do you think the mafia also have a vanilla cop?

Nero, is it possible in mechanics?

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people, who were nightkilled:

So what, {Cabd, Anastasia, XP}? Or something? Maybe bloodhail?

i think so unless one of the townreads r rly outplaying everyone

none of the people i want to vote have more than 1 vote it's very sad

kitty anastasia nero almost50

and dgb was scumreading Anastasia much on the first day, then he was in peace with you tho

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If we want to elim definite scum today, this one is mafia scum - Anastasia. I promise.

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Many things. Killed townies scumread her. Artemiana was too bad with password and 5 scums. Anastasia is in the remainder of people, who has good reasons not to be in pair with anybody of known mafia.
And if Cabd is town, he shouldn't be so wrong. And if he is scum his strange not-pushing is also looks like distancing.
And now I saw she is trying to manipulate people against me, when all of us just dont know what to do now.

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so what, samantha? bloodhail?
you wanted to hear a50

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Sam, what do you think about Ana?

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anyways, after ndmath inevitably scummily hammers me, go :

Anastasia>NDMath>Vasex>Andres

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@STD

Who is scum now?

Cabd, Dunnstral, Kerset, Samantha

maybe vasex, maybe ndmath, maybe anastasia

Anastasia here too

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this is not the answer about ana, sam

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my list of execution is in Cabd bloodhail WindowsXP n Anastasia everyone else is town for me

i think only windows is a likely hit there

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Do you think two vanilla cops is normal thing.

i dont think it now
i wasnt care much about that earlier
this is my second game here

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i dont know. it is rather strange for bloodhail to do what he did for scum.
but if im right now about ana, maybe he is scum too. but then i still have a question about fruits... and it doesnt bother sam or you, arent you? this is also strange thing if you decide that andre can be true cop
maybe that's why samantha wants so much a50 to claim? ugh, maybe i think too much

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so you claim again that you are not pr in reality of andre...
you should get a fruit as vt
so if mafia has roleblocker they should block kitty
so why did andre-scum didn't think about that during his info about fruits?
and why samantha is not going to hang andre?

samantha, what do you think about not-blocking kitty but possible blocking of andre?

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and again... enchant, dgb was roleblocker...

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a50 was sure that andre is town
i will wait just to think more about all of this
i have no strong opinion about blood/andre
though i will be glad if i was right about andre or... kitty

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i can imagine good reasons to defend any player here lol, except anastasia. even kitty if mafia-roleblocker exists for some reasons could be not roleblocked, it is possible, though this theory is very interesting.
i hope you are not trying to bring attention from ana

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god, i hope that two vanilla cops really doesnt exist together, because if they exist we can be in deep shit after 2 of those elims

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Ok, i locked my vote on Anastasia, but it seems, that the cops will be elimed today. It is good that now it is almost 50/50 (in my predictions where people will vote) and the voting is rather unpredictable. It is good. I am going to sleep and please dont hammer smb, i want to read and discuss it tomorrow. And i'll have a very busy day tomorrow(today), but only one.

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I was reading the missed day. Nothing too strange. Bloodhail claimed later after Andre, but he somehow was right that ndmath is vt before ndmath claiming. So if blood is mafia they have 1 more cop except t3? Is this ok? Mafis with two mafia cops... Or he was just lucky to guess vt?

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If you dont know where to vote, we have Anastasia, 100% mafia here, ladies and gentlemen

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Everybody who thought she is mafia os dead now, think about it.

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*is dead

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I need to say that if you dont look at the opinions of dead players to decide who is mafia, you dont know how to play this game. It is perfectly clear now, that Ana is a mafia scum. Rathe, Xp, Dgb, Anya, Std, all of them thought Ana can be scum. This means a lot.

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Harm reduction in the form of a Vasex execution is something I’m totally down for. I almost don’t want to phrase it this way but it’s the truth.

To be down for = to be ready for, really?
Ok, consider my vote is not locked and im with samantha and enchant in that case.
Why do you do that? You are too bad in this game for any side if you are going to elim me. Is she pocket you succesfully or you are a scum with her? Because she is definitely a scum.
I cannot understand why you lied about fruits so stupid and why are you not so careful and not even trying to get ally Vasex, when i almost ready for that. These are only things that prevent me from voting to you.
If you think Anastasia is town, you are wrong or a scum. And im not sure you are together. I still think she is pocketing you, repeating your thoughts.

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VOTE: Vasex

This is SCUM pretending to be ignorant. I am as sure of it as I was on Dunn now.

Interesting

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Do you want to elim mafia and win the game or do you want to argue?

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Ana is mafia. I dont know for sure who is mafia among Andre and Blood. Of course there is no big problem to elim both of you to elim at least 1 scum.

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VOTE: Vasex

This is SCUM pretending to be ignorant. I am as sure of it as I was on Dunn now.

Since when you are so sure?

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Vasex I’m going to be real with you here. I don’t care what your opinion is. I don’t. Even if the Mod came out and confirmed you as Town, I would ignore you. You’ve consistently shown that your reads are subpar to say the least. I’m not trying to argue with you. What I’ve been saying is that listening to you is directly harmful to Town. And it’s been shown to be correct over and over again. Now, you’ve been so anti-Town, executing you makes sense. It’s just what it is.

So you dont elim mafia if i vote real mafia? I do many mistakes, but win sometimes and find some mafia succesfully sometime. I havent lost on this site yet. And Ana has as many mistakes as i do. She is a scum, im not.

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Andre, if blood is mafia, cabd should be town. In that case Anastasia is mafia too. I dont understand why you dont think about that and is ready to elim me instead

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Kitty, so you think blood is true cop and andre is lying about fruits, right?
If we will elim today smb among blood and andre, are you going to elim Andre?

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What do you think about Enchant theory that if Andre flips town, you are mafia, because if he was blocked (sam and enchant didnt get fruits), then you are mafia, because you should be blocked on night 1?

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I remind you, kitty (and to myself), that cabd is not checked.

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Andre - Ana - A50/Cabd
Bloodhail - Ana - Kitty/Enchant/Sam
Smth like this?

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So you are ready to elim Andre instead of Blood, interesting.

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Im not sure, but it seems that Ana is not with Andre in their latest conversation.

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Anastasia, you again have two townies among ne two cops, really?
U defended both bloodhail and andre.
You defended t3 like that.
You have a good question about blood to Andre, but u still trust Andre more, is it ok?

If you believe bloodhail is aligned with mafia, how did he know NDMath is a vanilla townie? We already have a flipped mafia cop, do you think the mafia also have a vanilla cop?

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If Andre is town for you, Ana, then your scums are among these people, right?
Vasex, Bloodhail, Enchant, Sam
Because you are asking the others to help you with vasex.
Please confirm that there are 3 scums for you here.

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Andre. You didnt answer on Ana's question about Bloodhail.
Mafia has 2 cops, is it possible? How did Blood know ndmath is vt without t3?

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I dont understand. T3 was dead before the night, so he couldnt check ndmath, right?

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Everybody who thought she is mafia os dead now, think about it.

you're still alive aren't you?

You have only 1 gun

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Where is your vote to bloodhail, Ana?

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From your pov if im scum and andre is hard town, bloodhail should be only scum. So?

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im p sure andres is town

Sam, what do you think about Ana?

I think it's bloodhail/andres + cabd + ana/you

we have 11 alive 9 tomorrow 7 the next day (lylo)

we we need to get the first pair gone before our numbers can't support failure

ya the flip should always be me or andres

if you're both town we just lose the game though

HOW CAN U CONSIDER BLOODHAIL IS TOWN IF HE CHECKED ME A TOWN BUT U CONSIDER ME SCUM???

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So much stupid lie here, but i dont understand why it is so easy?!

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Im ok with voting between me and Ana then

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Ana, you dont like me, but speak with me so much. Why didnt you talk with Dunn at all? Do you hate anime tastes of each other or what?

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If I flip town should you die next?

Did you really say "if" instead of "when?"

If she flips

Thanks Dunny

the only one attempt to talk with each other

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Thanks Dunny. Dead DGB.

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Ok, my mistake. Hmm.

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Blood - andre,ana,nero,cabd,mark(?)
Andre - blood,kitty,enchant,samantha,a50(?)
Hmmm
And vasex

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The strangest thing here is a50, who considers now blood town, though he was townreading andre

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What this list about

This is the list of possible votes, according to opinions of players

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Mark will vote with Andre i think.

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He sred Nero, he sred me. I dont think that elimination of Ndmath and your checks change a lot in his pov. More chances he will vote Blood woth you.

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Lets they live 1 more night, because im not sure really, and some of you too.
I think Ana is so good alternative.
Maybe just make some votes here to get more people' opinions about her now.
People are ready for the voting to andre-bloodhail, they know what to do, they might have plans... but are they ready to unexpected push to Anastasia now??

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I promise. Lets vote Anastasia. Great things happen!!?

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If anybody puts a vote down for Anastasia following Vasex, it’s a Scum claim. Just so we’re clear.

VOTE: Andresvmb

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UNVOTE: andre

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Are you joking? This wasnt e-1