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[Wake1]

He y all I'll be checking in late tonight. See you all soon.

[Wake1]

Oh, and VOTE: Titus

[Wake1]

pedit: won't be suprised if that's scum^

Why?

it's not srs but in serious terms it would come off as like hey I'm gonna place my vote here and coast tf out of this game till tonight. so don't give me attention till I'm back

Or it's a strictly nocturnal night nurse going to bed right now?

[Wake1]

OK VOTE: Andres

Since when are you ever this active?

[Wake1]

OK VOTE: Andres

Since when are you ever this active?

Brilliant way of finding Scum.

It can be if there's a major discrepancy in your meta.

[Wake1]

That post was just Wake being Wake.

Hey now that feels like a dig for no good reason.

I'm strictly nocturnal so yeah It gonna be sleeping during the day.

Thinking that was just a dig but could be a subtle attempt to throw shade, maybe.

[Wake1]

im actually negative utility and its meta to claim it daystart - are you trying to imply its >rand scum by saying that?

Yeah, we get it, you're negative utility. Repeating yourself isn't gonna make it more special.

[Wake1]

@Koba are you Town? If you are, we can actually partner up for once.

weird thing to ask and you know why

I have to ask. I don’t want to have to fight you.

Fine, you’ll have to figure out my alignment over time then, and I will have to figure out yours. You really could have just told me you know.

OK so what is your Scum meta like?

I know you're a lurker but is that as Town or Scum?

The reason I'm asking is because you've got a ton of posts in this game already.

Please explain this to me Andre.

[Wake1]

Soaring into the game from the clouds, then crashes into a wall

..ow

...Anyway, hello everyone! I am Loftwing, your local neighborhood skylofty bird. I am here to pass judgement onto one of you.

VOTE: Hakai

I'm assuming this vote was just RVS?

[Wake1]

VOTE: LQ

Just a quick check on why you moved from Andre.

Gotta ask you what you think of his current activity level.

I think it's pretty important, as is your response.

[Wake1]

This defense seems weakly town.

I kinda disagree. I think it's NAI. Can you explain how it's Townie?

+1.

I was wondering the same thing.

[Wake1]

as is that reply just proved you're just skimming and picking out things to respond to

It's called I'm at work catching up on the game.

Take a Xanax and chill.

[Wake1]

VOTE: Andresvmb

Are you able to say why?

Blink once if "yes," twice if "no."

[Wake1]

VOTE: LQ

Just a quick check on why you moved from Andre.

Gotta ask you what you think of his current activity level.

I think it's pretty important, as is your response.

Idc

who are your PoE'd players rn?

Idk

not helpful

Funny you didn't say that when he said "idc" in response to mine.

[Wake1]

VOTE: LQ

Just a quick check on why you moved from Andre.

Gotta ask you what you think of his current activity level.

I think it's pretty important, as is your response.

Idc

who are your PoE'd players rn?

Idk

not helpful

Funny you didn't say that when he said "idc" in response to mine.

i dont like you on a personal level but i want to win this game so thats gonna affect me :shrug: if im scum here i just shitpush you out of spite lol

I don't even know you but don't worry I got your # after your last stunt.

[Wake1]

Gotta rate your vibe because I haven't seen anything AI yet and my instinct is to SR that. Usually you'll sprinkle something useful or at least insightful in.

Seriously??

FoS Kyouko. You should know why already (and so should Nero, Wake, Titus & Andres)

Speaking of which, IF IT ISN'T EXTREMELY APPARENT, I want to know what you think if Andre's activity level currently.

[Wake1]

Meta BAD

Meaning what, ignore meta like you appear to be doing?

[Wake1]

No, meta bad because people break meta all the time intentionally are not and you make your skill unsustainable relying on it so hard

So just disregard player meta entirely?

Make it make sense Dwlee.

[Wake1]

Meta BAD

Meaning what, ignore meta like you appear to be doing?

Yes

If you completely ignore meta, like you appear to be doing, you end up missing missing anything and everything.

Maybe it'd be better to say: "don't have complete faith in meta."

[Wake1]

Speaking of which, IF IT ISN'T EXTREMELY APPARENT, I want to know what you think if Andre's activity level currently.

I am aware of the "change" in his usual rate of posting, but I am waiting a bit longer to decide on it. It's not going "unnoticed" though, I assure you.

Well at least you're not ignoring it like others are.

It's fucking obvious.

[Wake1]

READS LIST

~updating~

Almost50

DkKoba

ssbm_Kyouko

GrandpaMo

Dwlee99

Andresvmb

Nero Cain

Margot Rosa

Nowhere to be found.

Titus

Hasn't done much of anything noteworthy except vote Andres. Need more from her.

Kop

Nowhere to be found.

Rannygazoo

Not sure with him. Didn't say much. He liked Andre's vote and naked-voted Almost50. If Andre is a good vote why not just put pressure there?

Hakai

Never played with him before. He asked only a handful of questions. His reactive vote is not good. Need for from him currently.

Loftwing

Mentioned he didn't like Andres but then never said anything about it again. I read that as a bit odd.

LicketyQuickety

NorwegianBoyEE

Hasn't really done much besides vote and pick at Andre. Need more from him as well.

Notes

Currently at work so NOT able to engage much. I'll be updating my list as I'm able.

[Wake1]

That post was just Wake being Wake.

Hey now that feels like a dig for no good reason.

I'm strictly nocturnal so yeah It gonna be sleeping during the day.

Thinking that was just a dig but could be a subtle attempt to throw shade, maybe.

What…?

What did you mean by #18?

[Wake1]

That post was just Wake being Wake.

Hey now that feels like a dig for no good reason.

I'm strictly nocturnal so yeah It gonna be sleeping during the day.

Thinking that was just a dig but could be a subtle attempt to throw shade, maybe.

What…?

What did you mean by #18?

[Wake1]

I meant it was just Wake being Wake.

Nah don't be shy.

Go ahead and explain what you meant.

[Wake1]

I meant it was just Wake being Wake.

Nah don't be shy.

Go ahead and explain what you meant.

I do not like explaining simple things a five year old could understand.

Oh OK so on a personal level you're being spineless and snarky.

Gotcha.

[Wake1]

Norwee, what is your read on me?

You know, I don't really see the Town motivation for asking others how they read you.

[Wake1]

It’s funny to me the escalation you show in response to me not answering an very pointless question.

It's not pointless when it's a game-irrelevant slight.

If anything's funny it's you acting chickenshit when getting checked on your snippy comment.

[Wake1]

You know, despite how disappointing it is that you'd take a personal jab at others for no real reason, continuing this further won't help me in finding Scum.

[Wake1]

Norwee, what is your read on me?

You know, I don't really see the Town motivation for asking others how they read you.

That's fine. I ask people how they read me sometimes because I'm a different kind of player and I can sometimes make reads based on how they read me.

Norwee gave me nothing.

I get that people have different theories on how to play Mafia. When I first started, the players I played with had expectations that Town played as Town would, and that other things like lying, contradictions, and asking for reads (rather than providing them) were not Town behavior. In my years here I am aware that some don't think Town or Scum behaviors exist, and that only motivation is the thing to hone in on.

I'm not bent on Scum-reading you for it because I can accept that some people play the game differently if they're Town.

[Wake1]

LQ, could I have your immediate thoughts on Andre, Nero, and Loftwing?

I have a good reason for suspecting Andre but I am not allowed to say why. Nero, I feel, is not really being that argumentative this game which kind of irks my gut. And then there's Loftwing who said he liked the Andres vote, but then he never even voted there.

I want to know what you're thinking, please.

[Wake1]

Anyway, i’m rambling.

I’m fine with an wagon on either of Andres/SSB

Eh, too early.

Two players haven't even posted yet.

[Wake1]

There are always players that haven’t posted yet.
Should we do nothing because one lurker isn’t going to log on for 5 weeks?

I didn't say that.

[Wake1]

Speaking of which, IF IT ISN'T EXTREMELY APPARENT, I want to know what you think if Andre's activity level currently.

I am aware of the "change" in his usual rate of posting, but I am waiting a bit longer to decide on it. It's not going "unnoticed" though, I assure you.

Well at least you're not ignoring it like others are.

It's fucking obvious.

We have played one game together. You don’t know my posting style, and you’ve seen one day of my gameplay IN TOTAL. It’s embarrassing that you think this argument is as strong as you think it is. You should actually try and sort me based on my content in the game.

I’ve faced Scum before that have made bad meta arguments against Town players, but based on what I’ve seen, I actually have you as Lean Town believe it or not.

If the same player barely posted in a past game, but in the current game opens the floodgates, that wouldn't make you raise an eyebrow?

You're right I don't know your meta, but I've seen two polar opposite aspects of you.

[Wake1]

VOTE: Margot

What is this? Is this where you think we should go day 1?

Sure

it has to do with your margot vote btw - its like the shift in play made me think like that you had at town thought process and reason to arrive there

I thought I was already out of scum range before that? Or was that to lure me into security?

OK, so I need to get this off my chest right now.

I don't like that we're voting someone who hasn't even played yet. If they don't post at all they'll get prodded or replaced. I feel that it's really cheap, and despite having voted no-shows in the past I now think it's not really optimal Townplay any more. Dwlee, I don't think you should be voting a no-show, unless it's just to get the person to get active if lurking.

As for Rannygazoo, I feel like his response is maaybe a little *too* normal. Something about it just irked my gut, just a bit.

Koba, I'm not sure I understand your thought process about his shift in play having a Town though process/reason for going there. It's just my opinion, but I don't think votes on no-shows are good unless just to pressure. And after re-reading this right as I'm typing I probably should have asked Dwlee first if his vote on Margot was serious or temporary.

[Wake1]

It is hard to keep track of this many players this early.

That’s why I think everyone making a reads list is weird.

I think I'm already over attempting any sort of reads list because A) it takes so much of my precious time and B) as evidenced here, no one read or even responded to it. I don't like my time and effort being wasted, especially when I'm juggling critical patients at work.

[Wake1]

I mean like i dont think its a good move I just think how dwlee arrived at it comes from town (in my very convoluted theory)

Um, could you un-convolute that theory, please?

[Wake1]

I mean like i dont think its a good move I just think how dwlee arrived at it comes from town (in my very convoluted theory)

Um, could you un-convolute that theory, please?

rain check pls

Sure, but then when would you like me to remind you, Koba?

[Wake1]

LQ's post does the same thing to me it's just like dwlee is town or scum oh well

To be frank with you Dwlee you're feeling a little cagey to me and I just wanted to get your insight on how it's going over there.

[Wake1]

I mean like i dont think its a good move I just think how dwlee arrived at it comes from town (in my very convoluted theory)

Um, could you un-convolute that theory, please?

rain check pls

Sure, but then when would you like me to remind you, Koba?

LQ's post does the same thing to me it's just like dwlee is town or scum oh well

To be frank with you Dwlee you're feeling a little cagey to me and I just wanted to get your insight on how it's going over there.

You know, I'm getting a bit tired of people not responding back to me when I ask questions and point things out.

[Wake1]

I mean like i dont think its a good move I just think how dwlee arrived at it comes from town (in my very convoluted theory)

Um, could you un-convolute that theory, please?

rain check pls

Sure, but then when would you like me to remind you, Koba?

LQ's post does the same thing to me it's just like dwlee is town or scum oh well

To be frank with you Dwlee you're feeling a little cagey to me and I just wanted to get your insight on how it's going over there.

You know, I'm getting a bit tired of people not responding back to me when I ask questions and point things out.

Wake be trying to solve and the player base isn't having it. These are perilous times.

These fuckers I tell you.

[Wake1]

644 isn't a question my guy

On the contrary, it doesn't have to be.

It's an observation: something pointed out.

I would appreciate your feedback.

[Wake1]

Dwlee, why are you being so cagey?

Almost all your posts are one-liners and you're barely playing the game.

Where are you

in this game right now?

[Wake1]

VOTE: Dwlee99

[Wake1]

Wake if you clicked the ISO button you would have seen that I've given a poe. If you wanna ask about that, go for it, but I'm not answering to give "insight on how it's going over there" when I already gave a poe I'm working from

Dude, all you did was list right players and then post "poe."

[Wake1]

*eight

[Wake1]

I want to know why you're being so cagey, ignoring my questions and observations, and making it feel like you're sparing no excuse to not engage with anyone.

I feel like you're holding back and to be frank with you it's a red flag to me.

[Wake1]

Your posts are only bare-bone to me. WHERE is your reasons for having them there? WHY do you keep just posting real brief sentences? I want to know why YOU are keeping it so brief and cagey. I feel like you're holding back, and it's tripping my gut.

[Wake1]

Oh, and before you say it: idc is an answer to a question

Bullshit.

You can't just say "idc" whenever people are asking you questions, bucko.

[Wake1]

Your posts are only bare-bone to me. WHERE is your reasons for having them there? WHY do you keep just posting real brief sentences? I want to know why YOU are keeping it so brief and cagey. I feel like you're holding back, and it's tripping my gut.

u sound like a newb scum that is tyring to pressure someone for having short (not caring responses to questions you ask)

ik this because i did this lol

Bullshit.

He's holding back and not playing the game. That's a red flag to me, and if Dwlee flips Scum then I'll be coming for you next. If you're Town you don't hold back like you're afraid to engage and share with other players. The more players engage the more chances Scum has to slip. And I think you understand that, so for you to try to block me engaging Dwlee is really something.

[Wake1]

V/LA until Tuesday morning.