large normal 239. game over

[Andante]

LET'S GOOOOOO Nashed was town, get the votes off, we got this!

[Andante]

first tr I have is probably gonna be over90, posts 15 and 16, I don't see over90 and std being maf partners together. so bam! maybe just a town lean for now... but looking good!! off to a good start!! only 2100 posts to goooo

[Andante]

I like 27 from italiano, feels like town me in rvs, but ehh not as great as the over/std interaction
Am I allowed to SR an rvs vote? cause like 30 from gamma is really odd - LMAOO this is gonna be fun, gamma is a flipped maf, ok well, glad that was right, legooo maf be scared!!
RCE feeling towny on page 2
Nero voting Italiano is also kinda odd, another SR for RVS? lmaoo this one is slight though, not as bad as the gamma thing
46 is Good post from cakez there
60- yeah over90 is almost definitely town

DeasVail with this claim, and the claim being their focus in RVS?? it's just like, why? like, I get that people like that should claim or whatever, but ehhh "I should've claimed PGO" like, ok.. why is this the most important thing on page 3 of a large? feels odd to me, then "I have a few light TRs" but not saying who?? feels odd... for sure.
76- DeasVail feels like they're defending STD.. like over is just all "get std!!!" but Deas is like "no no!! don't do that" like, it's RVS.. not sure why you'd be so serious... BUT now we have hindsight and see STD was a good maf role... - LMAOO ignore me, I was like "is this person even still alive?" flipped town. nice... so many replacements ahhhh that was still def scummy though.

81-83 caracalilly isn't amazing here, like on 1 hand is like "TMI!!!" and has these "reads" that reflect that, like why do you have a team of 4 maf on post 83??? and calling everyone else town... doesn't feel like you're actually trying to scumhunt - Caracalilly is now Mathblade
92- I definitely agree, Nero is not towny - Nero is now Koba

actually.. Koba.. why were you voting my slot?

[Andante]

cause right now, you feel like scum that KNOWS I replaced into a town slot, and how you're about to have to change directions with this push, I don't think I've ever seen you just settle for low poe/someone not posting Koba... so I think it's interesting for sure

[Andante]

i think mala's role explicitly does fit with my role so uh yeah


i dont think mala is mafia though.


regardless as people seem allergic to voting CSF lets go with
VOTE: Nashed

cause here it sure looks like no reason behind voting me (Nash) and 0 reason? just voting low poe... just cause?? with like a huge deadline left?

[Andante]

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to get wrenched. day 4 ends in 11 days, 3 hours, 51 minutes

like, there's still 11 days.. so I don't see the rush to limming a no poster...

(ok back to reading the game)

[Andante]

ok i finished analyzing scum spew:

Hard spewed town: DkKoba, SirCakez, over90, Not_Mafia, Malakittens
Kinda spewed town: Not Known 15, KittyTacky

Could go both ways: MathBlade
Nothing really: Enchant

Could be partnered?: NashedPotato
Looks partnered: Cat Scratch Fever

then why not keep pushing CSF for 11 days? like, that's my issue... you see wagon grow on someone who's not posting, and... flip to it? hmmm
(nero was NOT towny from what I've read so far my friend... and this isn't really helping the town case)

[Andante]

also, you want CSF??? Italiano was so towny though...

I mean, why are you voting me if it's not cause mashed just didn't post? it's kinda interesting how umm people who don't post at all... tend to have no interactions...

[Andante]

I need to read... I'm only on page 6, but ehh the 50 million replacements/dead people is kinda annoying though lol can't wait to waste more time SRing dead town

[Andante]

Page 6 I'm agreeing with the Kitty votes there, Kitty legit feels like maf talking about setup balance... it's just awkward
144- I could see nero being Kitty's partner, like, why are we calling whoever out for fence sitting on page 6? ehhh
OH Enchant's entrance here wasn't actually bad, it felt like a towny "if you read there's no traitor" thing and yeah. good look for enchant
148- HARD AGREE with mala - and with hindsight Gamma was maf, so.. why would maf try to defend someone? hmmm Gamma is never with cakez there, I guess nero doesn't have to be partner to be defended by gamma, might make more sense if they're not partners
151- ah nice, Italiano versus my slot and I'm town... well, I can't talk to italiano about it... maybe CSF could defend!! lol jk it does feel like Italiano TMI'd Over as town though... cause Nashed was SRing Over, and Italiano was like "YO!! WRONG!!" idk. it's a thought, there is going to be a lot of wrong thoughts here.
154- lol Italiano pushes Nero... now Koba pushing CSF... it's funny how this works
160 - Kitty feels odd
> What's wrong with just being somewhat cautious this early?
that feels like something maf would say when called out for fence sitting, like, Kitty isn't taking any sides, and is more worried about the whole 13-3 situation
166- Mala is definitely not with Gamma, and I don't *think* nero is with gamma
170 - mq.bosco pop in feels scummy
175 - then mq pulls the "cuz im new" card??
192- Gamma pushing italiano... the partner?
mmmm 204- I feel like that says a lot.. but like idk how to interpret that std post

ok and that's the first 9 pages, I need a break. Honestly, I don't think I'll be trying to take charge here, but I do need yall to see Nash/I are town, like you can move me to your TRs, I'm sure it'll help reads. if there's any questions on what I've read I can answer those, I'm trying my best to just power through and like read/skim over everything, this is just a lot of reading. I know I can tackle it though. I wanna say Carcalilly (MathBlade), and mq.bosco (Not_Mafia) are currently my top scumreads right now, possibly KittyTacky there... I'm sure it'll change, but yeah, hope this "content" was enough to satisfy yall for the moment. I love the challenge of replacing in to 3 votes on me!!! (I hope they don't stay for long plz...) I'll start on page 10 later. woooo leggooo town we got this!!

[Andante]

hahahaha nice. I mean, mq.bosco isn't towny here, so I'm guessing that's why they got checked in the first place. I thought about asking for a list of claims, but decided to just read first, but ehh at least I'm trying here, and if you wanna push me cause my reads suck? so be it. but I know I'm town. I mean my one post was literally SRing a dead town, so I'm not sure why SRing someone who later bacame a town clear suddenly makes my thoughts bad...

[Andante]

like, isn't there an issue if I came in, had super good reads, like, doesn't not knowing the clears make me more likely to be town?

[Andante]

I mean, if I need 11 days to convince yall I'm not maf, I'll demand we take them yes. but I don't plan on taking 11 days to catch up lol

[Andante]

Enchant why are you voting me?

[Andante]

yeah you are, I'm NashedPotatos

[Andante]

mmm ok, so NashedPotatos turned into me... so thus your vote on Nash turned into a vote on me... why do you think Nash is mafia?

[Andante]

I definitely meant to like read more, but yeah didn't happen, umm I think I'm back to Nero/Koba maf, like Koba is over here pushing me for not knowing who a clear was, like "you just tunneled an alive clear!" umm ok, did you ever think this person likely got checked because they were scummy?

[Andante]

This slot is town, idk what more I can tell yall. I will legit burn myself out trying to read 80 pages, so if someone could give me a compiled list of like claims/clears that would be amazing

[Andante]

what's the case for NK15? all I know is they were getting involved with the setup spec, and umm ever since SS did that, I don't trust anyone that starts giving numbers and percentages lol, but at the time I was like "meh NK15 does setup stuff, prob just nai" and uhh yeah I don't remember anything else from them in the first 9 pages

[Andante]

I mean, my reread isn't fake, it's genuine...

[Andante]

If all yall are convinced my slot is maf, you can flip it I guess, but like, you sr this slot why? just cause it did nothing? like, I'm not gonna sit here and fight yall when yall "KNOW" I'm scum, but like, I'm trying best I can't it's legit not fair to assume I know all the clears.. and like, what? you expect me to have perfect 100% reads?? like excuse me??

[Andante]

Your tone is way different than you are as town

uhhh sorry? like, idk, this is me

[Andante]

I'm not getting off you until you townread me. You must be policied before limlo if you are going to tunnel me.

considering you SR me for SRing mqbosco who is "clear town" like.. lol whatever

[Andante]

VOTE: KittyTacky

I didnt read anything.
I can elim nk15 too for his game.
I want to elim kitty for protecting elsa. But he can be town.

And like I said i consider italiano is not with std, but he is voted by kitty and dkkoba. This is strange.

And i also dont like enchant.

what's the case for kitty maf?

[Andante]

I'm not getting off you until you townread me. You must be policied before limlo if you are going to tunnel me.

considering you SR me for SRing mqbosco who is "clear town" like.. lol whatever

I clearly scumread your predessesor but ok

SRed nash for what exactly? that ISO is so empty

[Andante]

I'll try this for like the 3rd time. Unless someone wants to give me a list on like what claims/reports are, I'm not going to be super useful, but I AM town, so like, whatever, if you want me to help solve, I need the info, or if yall just wanna vote me out, you can do that too I guess

[Andante]

I know the person who holds the Nash account and they are way out of townrange, thats what

right.. and last time they replaced out and I took the slot.. you were tunneling them... and they were town, so do we need to do this again? Maybe you just can't read them

[Andante]

and you want to go out of your way to defend the CSF slot

didn't I literally start agreeing with you they weren't towny as I read... that 2nd reads post

[Andante]

Andante first IMO.

YO WHAT? And here I was like, ok maybe kitty town, that reaction seemed fine

[Andante]

also, I genuinely love yall trying to help me get caught up to speed... we answer NM's "who was in the hood" but we can't give me a list of what was claimed/reports... nice one

[Andante]

like, I just ask for a little help, then I'm all for ending the day.. unless yall wanna spend 10 IRL days

[Andante]

bye bye kitty
VOTE: KittyTacky

[Andante]

bye bye kitty
VOTE: KittyTacky

andante is definitely scum rofl

I mean, I've asked 50 times for info so I can do stuff, no one wants to give it to me, not like anyone is doing anything, so sure I'll sheep the Kitty wagon, if you just wanna sit here as you keep calling me maf, feel free. but based on the info I gathered, Nero is maf, that doesn't seem to be a popular opinion here, so yeah kitty wagon works for me

[Andante]

like they did against me in a game last year

a year ago? right.. cause I play the exact same as I did a year ago

[Andante]

did you ever think just for a second I've been trying to be nice? like I don't have the info needed to just blindly tunnel someone, I know that, I accept that. I'm legit trying my best given the situation here, I'm literally different from whatever meta you're going off of, and last time you death tunneled me I was town..

[Andante]

also, I genuinely love yall trying to help me get caught up to speed... we answer NM's "who was in the hood" but we can't give me a list of what was claimed/reports... nice one

Mala is neighbor JK and jailkept Elsa N1 (and there was no kill N1 so Elsa was flipped D2)

Koba claimed x-shot bp (Nero also hinted at something like this when he was playing the slot)

N_M is town bc the 1-s ascetic cop obviously crumbed an inno there

I think that's it

How caught up are you? What are your scumreads looking like right now?

Thank you!

Umm not super caught up, I wanna say carcalilly looked especially scummy from what I was reading, now mathblade, I thought they were basically off the table here based on how people are talking, I'd need to go ISO the remaining people and see my thoughts though. CSF most likely town for helping me instead of just yelling at me...

[Andante]

so andante/enchant is my current solve.

I WISH

@enchant when are we gonna be scum together? that would be SO MUCH FUN

[Andante]

if she's town she's scumsiding anyways

excuse me... I literally didn't plan on getting sick that afternoon I subbed in, I gave yall as much effort as I could, I'm feeling better now, I've been asking for help, I genuinely don't appreciate comments like this. just flip me first then if you're so deadset it's me. and since you're so right on that, you wanna selfvote tomorrow after I flip town?

[Andante]

you also refuse to give a read on enchant - similarly to how you were with marry when you were scum with her and i tried to extract an answer on you there.

there's no enchant in the first 9 pages...

[Andante]

i want to flip enchant, actually. youve been pretty good at avoiding discussing the enchant slot it seems.

right... purposely avoiding enchant.. I literally had a conversation with them, but nice try

[Andante]

It's not impossible for Andante to be scum yeah

it's not impossible for anyone here to be scum..

[Andante]

I don’t think that’s right.

I think over unvoted Kitty.

Can we like talk with each other and provide reasons?

I feel that is very much lacking here.

talk? reasoning? what is that???
I don't think I want a NK15 wagon so I picked the next wagon going on. Ideal vote here to me would probably be mathblade/Koba just based on carcalilly and Nero, but mehh no one else seems to want those, so it's whatever

[Andante]

It's not impossible for Andante to be scum yeah

it's not impossible for anyone here to be scum..

I can think of several players confidently never scum here just off interactions with flipped mafia

right, nashed is one?

[Andante]

like, if people have a major issue with how I'm playing, I suggest you just vote me out here, cause I'm town, and this is how I'm playing, and I'm not about to get to the situation where you "must lim maf or lose" only to get pushed there

[Andante]

Enchant has role of great power?

[Andante]

Enchant has role of great power?

Yes.

Whole existance of my powers fuels Mafiascum.net, so if you kill me, site will flip.

VERY POWERFUL!!! Enchant locktown.

[Andante]

I mean, I'm not a pr, so like, sure I don't mind, but I'm town, like, yeah.. obv it's not my greatest towngame ever, but ehhh

[Andante]

99% sure its just andante / enchant

then flip me first cause I'm not a pr and enchant is

[Andante]

DkKoba just pissed off on me for fooling them.

you're too powerful

[Andante]

SO MUCH POWER!!!!

[Andante]

Lovely and it’s a ton of shitposting.

Who here TRs Andante/enchant?

Mala can you provide latest reads here or hood please?

Like I want people to talk without the insults please

I mean, I don't even TR myself here if we're being honest

[Andante]

I mean, I'm not gonna stop it, I just thought carcalilly and nero were scummier

[Andante]

hahaha I mean, that's my read after 9 pages of the game and absolutely nothing else

[Andante]

Andante/Nashed = slot lurked and was never pushed by scum for it, which seems very odd

so I'm maf for just lurking and not being pushed by scum?

[Andante]

that's a really odd reason to SR me

[Andante]

Andante/Nashed = slot lurked and was never pushed by scum for it, which seems very odd

so I'm maf for just lurking and not being pushed by scum?

Yes, your slot was extremely LHF and was just ignored.

and if scum decided to push LHF... just for me to flip town? would that be a good look? no

[Andante]

WHAT??? NOOO

[Andante]

so what happens after I flip town? like, I'm town here...

[Andante]

I definitely understand the votes coming my way... but like, can I hear the plan for after I flip town?

[Andante]

WHAT??? NOOO

so what happens after I flip town? like, I'm town here...

I definitely understand the votes coming my way... but like, can I hear the plan for after I flip town?

this sounds like a scum reaction lol

mmm but see this is also andante yall are talking about... I'm gonna flip town lol

[Andante]

am I e-1 yet? hey enchantttt

[Andante]

oh nice!!! we made it to e-1 and I think evryone voting me knows I'm flipping town lol

[Andante]

its been fun

[Andante]

Andante, are you scum?)

you know it!!

[Andante]

7 days left and we wanted to speedlim me... nice

[Andante]

WHO STOLED MY BOINK?

gottem!!! missed opportunity

[Andante]

YOU VOTED NASH!!! I BECAME NASH!!! WE ARE THE SAME

[Andante]

Andante, if you are town, please update your opinion about players, i promise i will use it. Or maybe u have it on last pages unchanged, i'll use it

right... cause I can read in 5 minutes... I'm just like, we had 7 irl days left... there was no rush to lim me here...

[Andante]

oh well, good luck have fun

[Andante]

it's all good!! just slightly frustrated people were all "must speed lim andante!!" like ok so what if I'm dead weight right now?? you're voting me cause scum didn't interact with a slot that did nothing?? If you just let me be, I'll do something... like it's not like many were even talking, I tried interacting with everyone who did talk... oh well