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[Lowell]

vote vivax

yeah let’s do this booyah

[Lowell]

I’m good at this.

VOTE: vivax

[Lowell]

Wait what? They want supposed to happen

[Lowell]

I can’t type.

[Lowell]

Is it Lowell time yet? Who we killin?

[Lowell]

Nevermind I see it.

VOTE: meg

This is an ISO read of someone who wanted to have a fun game but is disappointed to have drawn scum.

Malcolm also a good vote. Chipping at the edges of ideas without ideas.

[Lowell]

Fred wagon is okay, andante less so. She reads more annoying than scummy to me. Meg though,

[Lowell]

Did a read through. Until now I was on my phone and bluffing, ignore whatever thoughts I had then and take these as real:

4- pooky claims town (I'm buying it, seems like a weird scum move)
20, 21- Meg speculates on roles on and tries to start a battle over nothing (scummy)
30- greeting "jokingly" justifies random vote (scummy)
40, 42- Fred calls vivax town (scummy white-knighting)
46- Fred calls pooky town due to 4 (scummy when he does it)
51, 61, 77- Meg tries to be cute, make friends (scummy)
69- andante rants about nothing (town, doesn't look calculated that's for sure)
72- prince calls enchant town (scum, first post white-knighting?)
88- gerain enters, claims confusion, wishes for speedy death (town, I'm buying)
130- greeting calls all the active players town, two meaningless lurkers scum (scummy low-hanging-fruit chasing)
144- prince votes dwlee (scummy, essentially naked vote on a lurker)
152, 153- prince inserts himself into a fight not about himself, then asks... everyone?... to weigh in on it? (scummy as hell, looking to lead town to nowhere while looking busy)
186- geraintm naked votes leading fred wagon (I like this, fearless)
216- prince joins fred wagon, overexplains (no)
page 11- andante panics (scummy. why?)
339- fred asks me a question from post...169? (nah bruh, why now? and if anything, Fred's meta on me should be that I don't know any of you, so weird question unless one's goal is only to look busy and do nothing)
341-349- crescent spams, has no filter (I like this, not so much as content but as someone who isn't holding back opinions)

Biggest scumread that stands out to me that I didn't notice before is

prince

. Not going to derail the perfectly good

Fred

wagon but if this feckless town chickens out let's do him or

Meg

next.

Andante

looks worse than I remember. Some likely towns are:

gerain, crescent, pooky, vivax

.

[Lowell]

VOTE: fred

[Lowell]

VOTE: Prince

Prince ducked conveniently away from fred wagon to save his buddy. I will oblige and vote him instead.

[Lowell]

Also I'm done with the "vote X until I hear more from them" bit. That applies to others also.

[Lowell]

VOTE: Meg. Here's a good wagon.

Fancy and prince are also scum.

[Lowell]

Feels like this sudden lack of energy for the Meg wagon is a good sign. More meg votes please.

[Lowell]

To respond to 648, what happened was I outed her as scum and she got mad.

[Lowell]

Yeah she in self-preservation panic mode don't feel left out.

[Lowell]

Is this the part where we all pretend to be concerned about a D1 quick-hammer that has literally never happened?

[Lowell]

Agree 100% with this. A wagon that just sort of hovers near the end is a good wagon

[Lowell]

Yay I’m harmless! Everyone hug me!

[Lowell]

Sonofabitch scum doctors out here stopping me from getting my rightful hugs

[Lowell]

VOTE: prince

Looks even better after the flip

[Lowell]

You people trying to scumread me need to try harder. Bugs says I have no gun and there’s all of a sudden a suspiciously large number of ppl eager to lowkey scumread me. Seems awfully convenient if you get what I’m saying.

[Lowell]

Ha. Burn.

[Lowell]

Oh I just now realized unsure replaced fancy. I'd been conflating unsure and unowen in my head. Fancy was bad yesterday so I'm good with the unsure wagon if no one joins me for prince.

Probably goes without saying but I realize I didn't say it earlier, I buy bugs' claim and they're town for me. They are correct that I don't have a gun, and it's hard to imagine scum taking the chance on a fakeclaim given the likelihood of there being pro-town players with guns.

fixing pronouns ~D

[Lowell]

Sorry, bugs. I should have said they are town for me and they are correct that I don't have a gun. My sincere apologies.

[Lowell]

As I think of it, prince can wait. Clearer threat first.

VOTE: unsure

[Lowell]

In hindsight, now that I'm being less tunnely on Fred, I have to correct something I said earlier. There is one MT post that's good.

MT saying Lowell is town (and giving a reason for it) is a good look. I feel like Lowell is the kind of low-effort town that scum loves to have in their POE, and MT basically just tossed him right out of it. Side note I have no idea how Gera ever got the impression that I scumread Lowell after my exchange with Fire at the start of the day.

I'm retracting crescent from my town list. Something about this post gives me the willies. The way it looks like narration, maybe? Looks like possible pocketing of two different low-energy people at once? Between these people and the scumzers trying to lowkey frame me as mafia doctor eh I don't know.

[Lowell]

Actually Lowell I'm only townreading for not having a gun, which is a worse reason than my reason for townreading FancyPants' and Unsure.

FWIW I'm not arguing I'm cleared for all time forever, I'm saying taking my lack of gun and contorting oneself into thinking I'm scum is a suspicious play. It's a scum move trying to eliminate a quasi-cleared person and not wanting to take responsibility for it. Town reaction to bugs' claim would be "cool, okay, that's two people I don't have to worry about today at least"

[Lowell]

Happy to vote fred if that's what we're doing. Anything that makes this go faster.

[Lowell]

Ugh prince is probably town. Sad

[Lowell]

I'd like unsure to come back so we can get more votes on that slot. Seems the best way to avoid elim is to disappear.

[Lowell]

Yep I think there's a psychological thing sometimes. Caught scum want to protect their pride by not trying too hard. Sort of how I quit my fantasy football league by week 4 every year. "Oh sorry guys things got reeealll busy for me for the last couple of months. I'm sure I would have climbed back from tenth place to win but you know how it goes!"

[Lowell]

VOTE: Fred heck yeah let's do this. I'm not waiting for the slackers!

[Lowell]

Look how close we keep getting to a kill and then miraculously stalling. Double hmmm!

[Lowell]

I still strongly prefer eliminating

Unsure

today. Even though

Fredrick A Campbell

is almost certainly our choice for today, I really don't want to announce intent to hammer nor hammer him. I'm not going against my gut here.

Maybe I'm wrong though.

But also, yes, unsure is scum too. I’m feeling lucky.

[Lowell]

Idk it's more telling that Fred is town.
Lolvote townie to e-1 is fast obvs, but who wants to cast finally vote.and get blamed?

Are you claiming scum here? You voted Fred, then panic-unvoted with a “hmmm”, now saying he’s town and mocking non-hammerers?

Okay it’s unsure and enchant then I guess.

[Lowell]

VOTE: enchant

Clear scum here. Let’s wagon ppl.

[Lowell]

Are we back to Fred again? Honestly people.

VOTE: fred

[Lowell]

Are we back to Fred again? Honestly people.

VOTE: fred

are you calling out your own post on Fred?

I guess? I just want a flip to sort.

Also, I'm buying fire as town, I guess.

[Lowell]

Is it still Fred or what? This wagon keeps getting to the end and dying. Let’s do it

[Lowell]

VOTE: unsure

Let’s kick some asses woooo!

[Lowell]

Oh neat it’s my scumday! Oof 16 years damn I must be old.

[Lowell]

Nah just living large come join tho

[Lowell]

I've been saying Unsure and Prince forever. No one listens because I rarely explain myself, but I'm pretty sure I'm right. Lookit this guy 1v1ing his scumpartner with some rando so he can steer the wagons. UNSURE/Prince Scum 2022!

[Lowell]

This group getting a lot of traction out of pretending to care about quickhammers.

[Lowell]

This game is dead. Scum wins.

[Lowell]

Oof, Unowen is flailing here. Still not my top target but what

[Lowell]

Prince deserves more scorn for 1571 than UnOwen does for 1570, btw. Looks to me like scum is waiting for a chance to get rid of me and jumping on the first dumb idea.

[Lowell]

Prince deserves more scorn for 1571 than UnOwen does for 1570, btw. Looks to me like scum is waiting for a chance to get rid of me and jumping on the first dumb idea.

In what world do you believe scum have you as a priority target?

In the world where I'm quasi-cleared already and flipping the mafia doctor would fully clear me. In any event piggy-backing on some rube saying "hey what about Lowell" with an immediate and opportunistic "hmmm actually maybe that's why we can't find scum IT MUST BE THE GUY WITHOUT THE GUN!" looks a lot like someone pretty excited to see my name thrown out.

[Lowell]

VOTE: prince

Unsure is still fine, but I'd really prefer this slot first.

[Lowell]

@mod: I'll be away starting tomorrow, until Wednesday evening.

Will try to check in but may not.

[Lowell]

I don't see Enchant as scum, fwiw. But also I'm pretty seriously tunneling prince and unsure right now so haven't really been looking that hard.

[Lowell]

Still want it to be prince—but sure mal is fine as well. Lowkey happy to see gerain get it. Started with town vibes there but reconsidering.

Town vibes from vivax, fire, and crescent

[Lowell]

there's an N3 cop?

Yes, me. Lowell was my investigation target.

Not smart.

[Lowell]

Maybe I'm an investigation-proof gunless mafia doctor. Someone else should investigate me tonight to be sure.

[Lowell]

Mala, prince, and unsure is the answer I guess. Who knows.

[Lowell]

Mass claim: yay or nay?

Feels like scum probably have plausible fake claims so not clear the point. Lots of dumb roles flying around.

[Lowell]

But on the other hand sure why not if it gets things moving.

[Lowell]

VOTE: unsure

Or prince. Both fine.

[Lowell]

Actually, I’ve thought about it and I’m okay with, possibly even in favor of, a mass claim. Especially if I can pick the order.

[Lowell]

So we doin this or what?

[Lowell]

Here’s the order. Apologies if I missed a claim or two.

Unsure
Mala
Prince
Crescent
Gera
Enchant
Viv
Fire
Greeting

[Lowell]

Unsure really was scum? Man I’m incredible with my reads right now. Everyone congratulate me or you’re next!

[Lowell]

Don’t understand the night kill at all—unless there was fear of a protective role I guess.

Speaking of, are we still mass claiming or what?

I believe mala to be scum, looks like the role has mostly given up tbh.

[Lowell]

I'd like to hear more about this Prince read-- I've read him as scum most of the game but now am starting to doubt. But ready to change my mind again.

[Lowell]

Also, how many scum do we think there are? 4?

[Lowell]

No but seriously are we mass claiming or not?

[Lowell]

No but seriously are we mass claiming or not?

I thought we did?!?!?

Did we? What did prince claim?

[Lowell]

VOTE: mala

Clearly has packed it in and ready to go home. Not sure what we’re waiting for. There’s “I’m not mad I’m actually laughing” vibes there.

On my way to night, I’ll say I don’t think it’s prince as scum anymore. Though I like the argument as him as scum doctor so I’ll give it a think if I’m alive tomorrow.

[Lowell]

Viv probably town. Too erratic to be scum imo.

Starting to wonder about a deep bus by UnOwen but mostly the interaction with Unsure looks legit.

Either way, sorry it out tomorrow.

[Lowell]

Sorry = sort

Typing on my phone. That my phone autocorrects everything to “sorry” should probably give me pause. Yikes