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[GuyInFreezer]

Hoi I’ll read tomorrow

[GuyInFreezer]

I only read page 1 but I can bub town this early right

[GuyInFreezer]

Man I know it’s only 8 pages but given how long the posts in last two pages looked there must be some sort of 1v1 going on

[GuyInFreezer]

I bet I can so many people angry by claiming that I townread ckd.

[GuyInFreezer]

I can get so many people angry*

[GuyInFreezer]

Man I know it’s only 8 pages but given how long the posts in last two pages looked there must be some sort of 1v1 going on

welcome.

did you read them or just skimmed?

if you did, who is the 1v1 and what are your thoughts on those stances.

I didn’t read the last few pages. I just saw the length of posts.

[GuyInFreezer]

Kowah is probably town too yeah?

[GuyInFreezer]

Ok that was up to page 5.
Imma come back and read the rest when I have time later today

[GuyInFreezer]

I bet I can so many people angry by claiming that I townread ckd.

someone has got to eventually. BUT I am curious WHY. In my opinion as we get closer to the resolution (lynch or counterwagon) I imagine at least one scum will come to my defense to get some town cred upon my reveal. I dont feel like we are in that stage yet, BUT I am curious WHY you feel I am town.

mod: I remember reading you dont like the word "lynch" what is the preferred alternative?

It’s all gut reads atm.

Also ppl use “elimination” as an alternative these days

[GuyInFreezer]

Ceph who’s your relatively strongest townreads atm

[GuyInFreezer]

Uh townread not townreads.
I only need one name.

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: curiouskarmadog

I don't have many reads, but this is just "I'm pushing a low poster cause I can" and it's "here's a push, but I can't push too much just cause there's nothing for the slot, but if I shade her enough, I can get votes there"

sorry, only enough room for 1 dog in this town.

This post is pinging me so I must investigate

[GuyInFreezer]

Actually VOTE: Andante for now

[GuyInFreezer]

Kowah is probably town too yeah?

Yes it's quite obvious

Good good.
I like having confirmations.

[GuyInFreezer]

Putting Greetings as town for now too.
I’m just not feeling scum there.

[GuyInFreezer]

Uh townread not townreads.
I only need one name.

Kow, with Bub a close second

Great!
I think I called bub town after reading page 1.

[GuyInFreezer]

Bub
Kowah
CKD
Greetings

I just need to find 5 more towns until I start lol limming the rest

[GuyInFreezer]

Why does 7 people still have less posts than a mod after 3 days has passed?

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: curiouskarmadog

I don't have many reads, but this is just "I'm pushing a low poster cause I can" and it's "here's a push, but I can't push too much just cause there's nothing for the slot, but if I shade her enough, I can get votes there"

sorry, only enough room for 1 dog in this town.

This post is pinging me so I must investigate

I have concluded my investigation. I think it pinged me because it looks like he felt like he had to give some sort of reason to jump on the CKD wagon, which was being a fad at the time.

[GuyInFreezer]

I would comment on Glitch’s wall, but now it’s page 11 and all he did so far was analysis for first two pages. And that’s like, RVS pages. I’m prob gonna give him some time to see more of those analysis (or lack of) I think.

[GuyInFreezer]

Kawaii has lot of questions but no opinions. Would vote there too.

[GuyInFreezer]

what exactly am I supposed to back up? I see a freaking wagon on me right now, and what is the actual case?

Cases are scummy

[GuyInFreezer]

Curious does not look that scummy to me.

Andante pinged me early, felt like a lot of chest puffing, specifically around where they were acting like a case should have been made against them at the time, when I specifically wasn’t able to word what i was finding scummy of them at the time.

That felt like scum knowing there wasn’t a real case there, adding some gasoline to a pile of the twigs that are curious.

what exactly am I supposed to back up? I see a freaking wagon on me right now, and what is the actual case?

All I know is you did this whole *cracks knuckles* alright get ready for a fight routine and then nothing

That's the reason for my vote, it's not like it's stuck there forever

VOTE: curiouskarmadog

I don't have many reads, but this is just "I'm pushing a low poster cause I can" and it's "here's a push, but I can't push too much just cause there's nothing for the slot, but if I shade her enough, I can get votes there"

sorry, only enough room for 1 dog in this town.

This post is pinging me so I must investigate

I have concluded my investigation. I think it pinged me because it looks like he felt like he had to give some sort of reason to jump on the CKD wagon, which was being a fad at the time.

VOTE: curiouskarmadog

bub noting that karma's explanation for voting kawaii was effectively bullshit is the most villager-y thing he's done all game, and karma's chances of being wolf were raised by a solid 17% because of that

seem legit, cant argue math.

VOTE: curiouskarmadog

I don't have many

reads

, but this is just "I'm pushing a low poster cause I can" and it's "here's a push, but I can't push too much just cause there's nothing for the slot, but if I shade her enough, I can get votes there"

sorry, only enough room for 1 dog in this town.

is that what I said? Where did I remotely indicate I thought you were a low poster? Also compared to who? Are you a low poster? Did I indicate I thought you were a low poster OR did I note that you only tried to make friends and told a joke to get people to like you. Did I even vote you in that post? Also, interesting phrasing there. "reads". Who uses reads? Scum just vote and make up a reasons. They dont use "reads" because they know who scum is.

this reeks of someone trying to come up with a reason to join a wagon, but just makes stuff up. Also slight slip.

VOTE: Vote Andante

also still waiting on Bub to answer my question.

after that, will give a full scum list.

But I guess if I quote people’s reasons for voting you I guess that kinda makes a whole case

[GuyInFreezer]

+2: Bub Bidderskins, Kowahbunga
+1: curiouskarmadog, Greeting, ballpointpen(?)
0: MalcomTucker, Cephrir, Skygazer, KittyTacky, Hu Tao, Save The Dragons, NJAC, Glitch
-1: Andante, KawaiiKame
-2: None yet

0 is null/unsorted

[GuyInFreezer]

-1: Andante, KawaiiKame

how on earth do you have me and my sr as the exact same?

Bussing is a thing so

[GuyInFreezer]

-1: Andante, KawaiiKame

how on earth do you have me and my sr as the exact same?

Bussing is a thing so

ok cool so I'm bussing Kawaii, what outside that has you thinking Kawaii scum?

Kawaii has lot of questions but no opinions. Would vote there too.

Try reading

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh sorry my bad
I forgot dogs can’t read

[GuyInFreezer]

Idk if that’s good enough.
All she’ve been doing is cherry-picking posts for discredit (See: her stated reason of FL voting her vs FL’s actual reason) and got flipped out when I put both her and Kawaii in same pool. And she flipped even harder when I mentioned possibility of bussing and try to strawman my reason of scumreading Kawaii is because I think they’re distancing (Despite my reads being formed before her read on Kawaii).

I don’t think that was town reaction.

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh no I did a case
Now I’m scummy

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh sorry my bad
I forgot dogs can’t read

My bad (for real) on this one by the way
This might’ve came off more rude than a little joke I intended to make

[GuyInFreezer]

mind talking about your greeting read

I wish I had more to talk about Greeting read, but it's literally just gut read. I'm just not feeling scum vibe there.

[GuyInFreezer]

/fascinating/
Soft town pr claim on D1 is either a ballsy scum move or a legitimate claim. I'll let curious live today.

I townread ckd but this isn’t the reason to townread ckd

[GuyInFreezer]

Spoiler: curious wagon

Spoiler:

camae ayewa (moor mother)

vote count 1.5 !

curiouskarmadog (4):

Hu Tao, Bub Bidderskins, KittyTacky, Andante

Andante (4):

curiouskarmadog, GuyInFreezer, Flavor Leaf, Cephrir

Greeting (3):

NJAC, ballpointpen, Kowahbunga

Glitch (1):

Greeting

Hu Tao (1):

Save The Dragons

Flavor Leaf (1):

KawaiiKame

Cephrir (1):

Skygazer

not voting (2):

MalcolmTucker, Glitch

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to put someone in the machine. day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-04-02 13:48:07)

moderateur notes

• no prods administered! in fact everyone has posted in the last uh 25 hours

like, I'm not placing a vote on FL, ignoring that, and going "yeah karma dog scummy!!!" while not voting karma dog...
yet you have us the same??

I was saying if you right about Karma easy eliminating you Karma has a scum mindset, how is Karma voting you an easy elimination?

someone not posting? I hadn't done anything, how was I not an easy lim when karma started voting me?
I don't get what you are asking

In IS0 the push against you makes 0 sense, like you said nothing that would indicate you as scum, confused when reading, like what?
UNVOTE:
VOTE: curiouskarmadog

So now we're actually getting a little action and traction. Hu Tao, Bub, Kitty, Andante, and Kawaii are on the curious wagon. I don't think a PR claim on D1 means that scum is guaranteed to be on the wagon. But I do think it gives sufficient reason for a bit of pressure there. Bub is in my town bucket which leaves me interested in ISO'ing Hu Tao, Kitty, Andante, and Kawaii. I'm gonna do that now.

Can we please just eliminate this person

Ceph

Ceph

Bad != scum

[GuyInFreezer]

Wagon analysis without flip is pretty bad
But as I said, bad != scum

[GuyInFreezer]

Can y'all elaborate on why wagon analysis is bad without a flip? Maybe I'm playing poorly but at least help me understand why.

You’re very likely to lock yourself into confbias when it’s just all assumption at this point. Same as why association without flip is bad.

[GuyInFreezer]

as much as I want to like Guy in a freezer, something is not sitting well. but have no clue what.

That would be your dinner.

[GuyInFreezer]

Anyway it’s time for some shitposting.

Has anyone realized how Andante magically moved away from Kawaii???

Ok now that I’m done with shitposting

We have no reason to force CKD to out what they are claiming. If you think CKD is scum, just lim CKD. If you think CKD is town, let mafia deal with the claim. We don’t want to do free work for mafia.

[GuyInFreezer]

(And no I don’t scumread CKD otherwise my vote would be there)

[GuyInFreezer]

Btw gif what's gotten into you I don't think I've ever seen you try this hard before

You see I only turbo-procrastinate if I know I can get away with it. Most people here don’t know me so

[GuyInFreezer]

(Although ngl I'm kinda procrastinating rn. I haven't read a single MalcomTucker post yet)

[GuyInFreezer]

I keep seeing ppl calling CKD's softclaim scummy

But why would scum claim like this

that being said, my role (if you want to call it that) isnt very helpful, some might even say it would be a distraction. So...if the wagon does swell on me while I am away, it wont hurt you guys much.

[GuyInFreezer]

Like yes there are reasons why scum would claim like this.
But given situation CKD is in, what would be more likely for scum-CKD to do? Claim something weak and town wouldn't mind losing, or claim something strong that would give town a pause before putting a vote?

[GuyInFreezer]

And do note the CKD's "overly defensive and reactive reaction" when thinking about above.

[GuyInFreezer]

I guess I'm committed to defending ckd now. But that also means I need to provide an alternative. I don't think I can get Andante wagon to work with 4 days left.

...Does anyone townread Skygazer?

[GuyInFreezer]

There's definitely at least one scum in: {

KittyTacky

,

NJAC

,

Glitch

}. I'll see in the postgame if my instincts were right.

Why?

Why me fry me

[GuyInFreezer]

(Although ngl I'm kinda procrastinating rn. I haven't read a single MalcomTucker post yet)

I think malcolm is approaching my slot fairly, seems towny how he talks about me/his read on me

Uggggggghhhhhhh you're making me read MalcomTucker's posts.
His posts looked hella long which is why I haven't read his yet.

[GuyInFreezer]

I'll let you know tomorrow.
Although ballpointpen was at my +1 list.

[GuyInFreezer]

This almost feels like a light defense of them.

I guess I'm committed to defending ckd now.

It

is

a defense.

[GuyInFreezer]

The whole point of those string of posts was to show you that given how CKD was approaching this game so far (overreacting to pressure), claiming something weak and soft would be directly opposite of scum-CKD's agenda.

[GuyInFreezer]

But I also made my posts like that because imo reaching an understanding on their own is much more effective than simply being told of stuff.

[GuyInFreezer]

I'm not one to believe activity is alignment indicative. However, the timing of this is to me. A 40 minute block of suspicion gets their attention immediately. Like the immediate scenario that ran through my head was:

GIF posts suspicion of Sky, no worry yet...
Ceph posts they kind of want to look that way too... FOUR minutes and suddenly the busy bee finds a break in their schedule.

It's a conspiracy at best, because I have no way to prove it. But that's how it looks to me. Sky was already on my radar for 364 - so this may just be me wanting it to be true. I just think it looks suspicious to me.

We call this beetlejuicing.

[GuyInFreezer]

Alignment indication wise beetlejuicing itself is null. Town is just as interested as mafia to find out why they're being suspected, and it could've been a coincidence and she could've been in the middle of catching up. But she could've been an active-lurking mafia too.

[GuyInFreezer]

But many people think it's >rand scumtell.

[GuyInFreezer]

I do see myself moving off of Andante, at the very least their providing content and action, which is readable as the game goes on.

No ckd
No Andante
No Skygazer

Then what would you suggest? We have 4 days.

[GuyInFreezer]

Just seems like it's happening in a really easy and low effort way.

It really only feels that way because skygazers was never mentioned in this game until now.

[GuyInFreezer]

Kawaii is also a valid option for today as well.

[GuyInFreezer]

Speaking of beetlejuicing

[GuyInFreezer]

miller is not a power role

What they said was:

yeah I am soft claiming....if the definition of a power role is non-vanilla, then yeah, I am a "power role".

So something like a miller isn't against what they said. Though in the case of miller specifically, why not just claim it outright?

Maybe it's just that it's been nearly 10 years since I've played mafia on this site and the meta/theory has developed on this, but I don't see how a weaselly soft-claim justifies jumping on the wagon. At least in my book that's a strong scumtell. But maybe my understanding of this is super outdated.

You would be shocked to hear that lamist is also outdated.

[GuyInFreezer]

Chainsaw defense is something I haven't heard in a long long time

[GuyInFreezer]

GuyInFreezer, what are your thoughts on Hu Tao

null

[GuyInFreezer]

By the way I'm going to be kinda busy in next 3 days due to moving shenanigans. It kinda sucks because we're near the deadline. But I think I'm really just content to lim whoever that I'm not townreading.

[GuyInFreezer]

+2: Bub Bidderskins, Kowahbunga
+1: curiouskarmadog, Greeting, ballpointpen(?), Flavor Leaf, Cephrir
0: MalcomTucker, KittyTacky, Hu Tao, Save The Dragons, Glitch
-1: Andante, KawaiiKame, Skygazer, NJAC
-2: None yet

0 is null/unsorted

I would also prefer NJAC lim because what did he really do in this game so far? Also, why me fry me.

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: NJAC

[GuyInFreezer]

I would also prefer NJAC lim

btw clarification because my English is bad.
What I meant here was more "I wouldn't mind limming NJAC too"

[GuyInFreezer]

i have no idea whats going on in this game can someone give me a tldr

Read NJAC's ISO and tell me what you think.
Don't worry it's a very short ISO.

[GuyInFreezer]

(unless theyre on me bc im a fool)

You and me both.

[GuyInFreezer]

Shameless prod dodge

[GuyInFreezer]

I should have time to read this later afternoon.
Looks like we got 2 days extension so yay

[GuyInFreezer]

YOU ALL DOOMED I REPLACED IN VIGILANTE SLOT

ISO NJAC and join the glory

[GuyInFreezer]

I did read didn't understand what

Vote NJAC

[GuyInFreezer]

are they passive or desperate to not eliminate njac pick a lane

They can just not place a vote on NJAC and place a vote on places that goes nowhere :^)

[GuyInFreezer]

That would be both being passive and desparate to not eliminate njac

[GuyInFreezer]

i just want to kill hu tao

I don't wannaaaa

Hu Tao wagon is a counterwagon formed to hinder the glorious NJAC wagon

[GuyInFreezer]

Hey look counterwagon

VOTE: Andante

If you can make that happen I will join in a heartbeat

[GuyInFreezer]

Greetings is toooooown for 291

[GuyInFreezer]

So I have this wild idea

Hu Tao is town

[GuyInFreezer]

So I have this wild idea

Hu Tao is town

I think I'm obvious town but I'm a little bias

What are your opinions of the people trying to only vote in the big wagons despite there being no deadline at the moment

ngl I only realized that not too long ago.
Some ppl might not have realized that so I’m seeing that as null.

[GuyInFreezer]

I do PoEs so I can tell you my townreads instead.

BPP
Bub
Kowah
CKD
Hu Tao
Greetings
Venmar (this is very recent)

I didn’t have much time the last few days so it’s kinda old but hey

[GuyInFreezer]

It’s Day 1 so I find that reasonable to come from any alignment tbh

[GuyInFreezer]

There's definitely at least one scum in: {

KittyTacky

,

NJAC

,

Glitch

}. I'll see in the postgame if my instincts were right.

I am not at all opposed to eliminating

NJAC

.

VOTE: NJAC

Why is everyone so hesitant to vote

NJAC

out?

From my perspective, a lot of players can be easily ruled out and get town passes for the time being. Meanwhile, that slot contributed literally nothing. If we keep him in the game and allow him to coast around, we will not be moving forward.

Scum really don’t want NJAC executed.

I’m starting to think that is the case too. Players like him should be policy-elimmed, and it’s very surprising that there’s only four votes on him so far.

I will look into the

Hu Tao

wagon later though.

Like, it’s all on track too.

[GuyInFreezer]

Do you still think that now?

[GuyInFreezer]

Hu Tao saying NJAC feels town as the 2 main wagons pushes is not scummy.

^

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: Andante

[GuyInFreezer]

I’d rather vote someone who is being themselves over someone I think is town so

[GuyInFreezer]

Ceph wagon sucks

[GuyInFreezer]

If anything NJAC’s post there is omgus

[GuyInFreezer]

What happened to Andante wagon

[GuyInFreezer]

I townread Skygazer

[GuyInFreezer]

I'm a sucker for AtE. I don't want Ceph. I think their spouse would be able to tell of they are faking it. Unless they are scum together but I don't think Dragons is scum.

I think sky is still the best vote and I think Venmar has been quite scummy in the last few pages

Would scum nonchalantly do the exact same thing she got wagoned for before?

[GuyInFreezer]

I'm a sucker for AtE. I don't want Ceph. I think their spouse would be able to tell of they are faking it. Unless they are scum together but I don't think Dragons is scum.

I think sky is still the best vote and I think Venmar has been quite scummy in the last few pages

Would scum nonchalantly do the exact same thing she got wagoned for before?

Yeah I'm kinda seeing that. What's your thoughts on venmar?

I only read like last few pages because phone.
Last time I thought he was town though.

[GuyInFreezer]

I townread Skygazer

Please explain.

Explained

[GuyInFreezer]

I'm a sucker for AtE. I don't want Ceph. I think their spouse would be able to tell of they are faking it. Unless they are scum together but I don't think Dragons is scum.

I think sky is still the best vote and I think Venmar has been quite scummy in the last few pages

Would scum nonchalantly do the exact same thing she got wagoned for before?

[GuyInFreezer]

Andante will just kill me if we let her off the hook

…although that is actually a plus

[GuyInFreezer]

Andante will just kill me if we let her off the hook

…although that is actually a plus

Will I now... did you know it's possible for town to have killing power? )

If you’re a vig pls shoot me N1

[GuyInFreezer]

somebody tell me WHY GIF is town...go.

Say my name 3 times and I’ll tell you

[GuyInFreezer]

on come?!?! the two people I have SR on, are agreeing with me?!?! ugh...

Maybe your SRs just suck

[GuyInFreezer]

Anyway CKD spewed me as town by putting me as same tier as Kowah and I thank them for that

[GuyInFreezer]

Too much words without vote, are you cowards

I’m already voting idk what you’re talking about

[GuyInFreezer]

But selfhammer as town is the ultimate towntell
Don’t you want to be confirmed town???

[GuyInFreezer]

im jealous bc i dont have a colorful name anymore

I feel you because I used to have a colorful name too

[GuyInFreezer]

I am actually very very interested in how many people got angry for someone suddenly becoming very town.

[GuyInFreezer]

Could some of them have been angry because their mislim option is suddenly gone?

[GuyInFreezer]

ATE sucks imo, perfect weapon as mafia.

You really can't pressure person for it because it would break rules of toxicity.

Pushing people AtEing won’t break the site rule, as long as it doesn’t devolve into ad hom and insult slinging. If the AtEr was genuine and rep out in a fit of rage or something, then it’s on them, not you.

[GuyInFreezer]

@NJAC

Thx I'm always up for a good insult

wait, was the directed at me? You thought that was an insult? you WERE sad sacking. Voting yourself and throwing a tantrum. I mean..come on.

Thanks, doubling down is usually a good response when someone says they were hurt

look, sorry if your feelings are genuinely hurt. But your reaction to a little pressure does not match the years of experience you have. So it is hard to take that at face value. The im going to take my ball and go home stance was silly and not helpful. I stand by what I said, if you flip scum, you should be embarrassed how you garnered town cred. For me, that is what you did. I had a null read on your until that. Then you just appeared like a sad sacking town.

Thx I'm always up for a good insult

wait, was the directed at me? You thought that was an insult? you WERE sad sacking. Voting yourself and throwing a tantrum. I mean..come on.

Thanks, doubling down is usually a good response when someone says they were hurt

look, sorry if your feelings are genuinely hurt. But your reaction to a little pressure does not match the years of experience you have. So it is hard to take that at face value. The im going to take my ball and go home stance was silly and not helpful. I stand by what I said, if you flip scum, you should be embarrassed how you garnered town cred. For me, that is what you did. I had a null read on your until that. Then you just appeared like a sad sacking town.

100% agreed with this btw

[GuyInFreezer]

@NJAC

Thx I'm always up for a good insult

wait, was the directed at me? You thought that was an insult? you WERE sad sacking. Voting yourself and throwing a tantrum. I mean..come on.

Thanks, doubling down is usually a good response when someone says they were hurt

look, sorry if your feelings are genuinely hurt. But your reaction to a little pressure does not match the years of experience you have. So it is hard to take that at face value. The im going to take my ball and go home stance was silly and not helpful. I stand by what I said, if you flip scum, you should be embarrassed how you garnered town cred. For me, that is what you did. I had a null read on your until that. Then you just appeared like a sad sacking town.

Thx I'm always up for a good insult

wait, was the directed at me? You thought that was an insult? you WERE sad sacking. Voting yourself and throwing a tantrum. I mean..come on.

Thanks, doubling down is usually a good response when someone says they were hurt

look, sorry if your feelings are genuinely hurt. But your reaction to a little pressure does not match the years of experience you have. So it is hard to take that at face value. The im going to take my ball and go home stance was silly and not helpful. I stand by what I said, if you flip scum, you should be embarrassed how you garnered town cred. For me, that is what you did. I had a null read on your until that. Then you just appeared like a sad sacking town.

100% agreed with this btw

Btw I read this wrong so ignore what I said

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: Sky

E-2

[GuyInFreezer]

This is flipping town though

[GuyInFreezer]

I love how the second we get someone in here who has a fresh look at the game they realize that skygazer is not scummy.

I said it first :^)

[GuyInFreezer]

@Bub

I townread Skygazer

Yesz

[GuyInFreezer]

You're trying to have it both ways -- starting some initial suspicion on Sky, voting for him late in the day:

This concept may be wild to you, but reads change.

[GuyInFreezer]

I do feel that gif maybe shouldn't be voting his townread

That’s what I’ve been doing until today actually
Until there was “no deadline for D1” post from the mod

And then I decided that this day really has to end

[GuyInFreezer]

Is Andante the biggest wagon atm

[GuyInFreezer]

But there are/were other options. Hu was a wagon, Andante is still a wagon. Do you think they're more likely to be town than Stargazer?

I townread Hu so I never joined the wagon. I’ve been on Andante wagon literally until an hour ago, and literally only voted for Stargazer because it was the biggest wagon and the day has to end despite townreading her. If Andante wagon gets track again I’m going to jump back on.

[GuyInFreezer]

Maybe, but what's really scummy for me is not so much the vote for Sky to end the day, but the attempt to take credit for townreading them before the fact. It really reads like scum who knows that skygazer is going to flip town.

Nah you’re just jealous. And I like being right first. I also equally enjoy being wrong in the most hilarious way as well.

[GuyInFreezer]

And only if Andante flips heavy scum PR

[GuyInFreezer]

GIF, come back to Andante.

This day ends on Andante flip.

VOTE: Andante

[GuyInFreezer]

No what the fuck I’ve been calling N1 vig for a longest time

[GuyInFreezer]

Flipping a claimed VT vs hopping wagons to get more claims out D1

[GuyInFreezer]

and id' have gotten at least 2 more claims.

And Cop would check miller who didn't claim due your influence

Fun story

I once rolled activated IC and claimed miller D1. Cop checked me N1 and claimed my innocence at D2.

[GuyInFreezer]

Nah
We lost but I didn’t get limmed because I popped my IC right after because they were gonna quicklim the cop

[GuyInFreezer]

Who cares about PR

It is an information that we don’t have to hand it to mafia for free

[GuyInFreezer]

Well, if we vote out someone we all know is town (and a useless role since VT) that is better than a scum claiming PR to avoid a lim!

Aside from the “we all know” part, claimed VT is still better than limming claimed PR D1 because if scum had to fakeclaim D1 that means they were forced to fakeclaim with 0 setup information and most likely to be screwed anyway, just not at the immediate moment.

[GuyInFreezer]

Dang I have to read more than 30 pages?

[GuyInFreezer]

Greeting should HC his partner today

[GuyInFreezer]

I'm pretty sold on Kowabunga and Bub scum from this ISO

Dunno about Bob but Kowah scumread is a big L take

[GuyInFreezer]

Anyway NJAC is hard town from that “omg I’m reporting Kitty”

Cephslot most likely town too for sudden pressure call on Kitty

[GuyInFreezer]

Nice dumbtell please continue

It’s not like CKD was scum to begin with so

[GuyInFreezer]

I'm generally lean town on GIF, but I'm not opposed to pressuring there.

Rule #1 is pressuring is…

[GuyInFreezer]

Need to actually read Venmar posts AtEr because his posts too long for phone, but if scum has daytalk he prob had no reason to publicly out the loud action like that, but I’m sure somebody already mentioned this already.

[GuyInFreezer]

I drank some beers but here are some quick thoughts:

Vig should shoot Andante to remove the noise and we should lim today one of those who were not on Kitty's wagon.

Because Kitty flipped BP

Why are you so confident there might a vig to solve this for us?

Besides, under your theory of 1 person bussing Kitty, why is Andante not a prime suspect there as the 4th vote and someone who's been seemingly vocal about how she wasn't actually a fan of the wagon?

[GuyInFreezer]

Because Kitty flipped BP*

[GuyInFreezer]

I prob need to organize my reads at some point

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: Andante

[GuyInFreezer]

{Malcolm, Eira, Enchant, Venmar, Sky, GIF}

[GuyInFreezer]

While I enjoy being townread that was me saying that while voting Skygazer

[GuyInFreezer]

By soft you mean ascetic

[GuyInFreezer]

Btw I’m townreading the ascetic claim

[GuyInFreezer]

Man fuck me I had 50% chance to exit this game N2

[GuyInFreezer]

Ah well whatever I can’t do anything anymore so

1-shot bodyguard.
N1 I held because I didn’t want to die yet
N2 I wanted to die and I had 50/50 between FL and NJAC
I chose wrong

[GuyInFreezer]

Now I have to actually

read

the game
Which is something I haven’t been doing for very long time

[GuyInFreezer]

Anyway this is why I think ckd is town by role

Two town protection roles, makes sense for town to have something that doesn’t affect them while not being too obviously town by role with macho or something

[GuyInFreezer]

Ah well whatever I can’t do anything anymore so

1-shot bodyguard.
N1 I held because I didn’t want to die yet
N2 I wanted to die and I had 50/50 between FL and NJAC
I chose wrong

Why did you choose me?

Outed PR

[GuyInFreezer]

Anyway this is why I think ckd is town by role

I don't understand. Explain?

Neg utility that I can see reason why it would exist in this setup

[GuyInFreezer]

Why would I fakeclaim a protective out of the blue with jailkeeper’s confirmed existence

[GuyInFreezer]

This is kinda foolish choice, considering mafia pretty mad on jailkeeper and NJAC is 100% is not Jailkeeper.

Considering they went for someone who was most likely a VT (thus most likely not JK hunting) my choice wasn’t that foolish after all ain’t it

[GuyInFreezer]

Why would't you

If I wanted to fakeclaim for credibility duplicate role category is the last thing I want to fakeclaim. It’s like claiming tracker when there is confirmed cop.

[GuyInFreezer]

I don’t think bub is the scum here chief
That man played half of D2 based on assumption that Andante is surely flipping scum

[GuyInFreezer]

Anyway this is why I think ckd is town by role

Two town protection roles, makes sense for town to have something that doesn’t affect them while not being too obviously town by role with macho or something

I’m the only one who said things

[GuyInFreezer]

Dodging prod etc