it doesn't have to be w/w? there's been instances where people shade wagons so they can go "see how right i was" without actually fighting the wagon itself. either way, greeting's post is real low-blow to literally everyone who voted ckd while using that "fact" to accuse HuIn post 253, Bub Bidderskins wrote: Man I really don't get where ballpoint's coming from. Why would throwing weird shade at the CKD wagon be scummy...so much so that you'd swap off. The reason scum would want to throw shade on a wagon is if that wagon's a scumbud, so why not stay on the CKD wagon.
Seems very flip-floppy to me. Definitively suspicious of ballpoint right now.
I did read it.In post 176, Kowahbunga wrote:Yeah it wasn't said like that at all. Post 48 - "Both town and mafia can make contentless posts for no reason or for whatever reason really.In post 170, KittyTacky wrote:????In post 166, Kowahbunga wrote:Well you should. They literally slipped and called me town which is impossible for any town player to know on D1. Its not, however, impossible for scum to know on D1.In post 165, KittyTacky wrote: I don't like Kowah's push on Greeting.
Do you not know that "X is town" is basically just a way to say "I have a strong TR on X"?It is a common mistake for townto assume that every post has intention."
That was in response to my 44. "I feel like everything is alignment indicative. Every post is made with intentions. Its not up to the poster to express this, but up to the player-base to interpret."
They did not just simply say "Kowah is town" they responded and said what I said "is a common mistake for town" that's not a town read. That's not a guess. That was an attempt to discredit my opinion on the game followed by a them blatantly mentioning what my alignment is. This does not come from a town POV.
Also, why don't you actually read the game before you come in here and discredit what I've been doing? What gives you the confidence to come in here, tell me you don't like my push on Greeting, and then openly prove you haven't even looked at it?
^In post 180, MalcolmTucker wrote:I think you've completely misinterpreted what Greeting said from reading it over again. Greeting was making a general comment that town will sometimes read too much into things, especially early game, and applying that logic to a scenario where you are town. If that were some unlikely possibility I'd understand the suspicion but in any given game of mafia most of us are town, it's not a stretch for Greeting to operate on the assumption you are early doors if they don't have a scumread on you as such.In post 176, Kowahbunga wrote:Yeah it wasn't said like that at all. Post 48 - "Both town and mafia can make contentless posts for no reason or for whatever reason really.In post 170, KittyTacky wrote:????In post 166, Kowahbunga wrote:Well you should. They literally slipped and called me town which is impossible for any town player to know on D1. Its not, however, impossible for scum to know on D1.In post 165, KittyTacky wrote: I don't like Kowah's push on Greeting.
Do you not know that "X is town" is basically just a way to say "I have a strong TR on X"?It is a common mistake for townto assume that every post has intention."
That was in response to my 44. "I feel like everything is alignment indicative. Every post is made with intentions. Its not up to the poster to express this, but up to the player-base to interpret."
They did not just simply say "Kowah is town" they responded and said what I said "is a common mistake for town" that's not a town read. That's not a guess. That was an attempt to discredit my opinion on the game followed by a them blatantly mentioning what my alignment is. This does not come from a town POV.
Also, why don't you actually read the game before you come in here and discredit what I've been doing? What gives you the confidence to come in here, tell me you don't like my push on Greeting, and then openly prove you haven't even looked at it?
I think you're town for this line of thinking though, I don't feel it's a strong reason for suspecting Greeting and I suspect scum would be a bit more aware of that and perhaps back off.
In post 241, Glitch wrote:This is weird. What has STD said that makes you "with them?" STD has contributed practically nothing. What are you talking about?In post 47, Greeting wrote:I'm withIn post 38, Bub Bidderskins wrote:Sure, it's just the the timing that seemed a little...eh to me. Sort of "hey, let's show my face so everyone knows I'm cool but not actually try to move towards finding scum>" I'll admit it's weak and I'm not married to this tell, but my general read of scum behavior is that they're like politicans who'll pop in to show themselves but don't actually want to be attached to a wagon.In post 30, ballpointpen wrote: let me play the devil's advocate to your accusation: what you pointed out isn't unique to those two users, since savethedragons (i'll abbreivate to STD if that's ok) also just said "hi" without casting a vote, so wouldn't the same kind of logic apply to them?
and while people do vote for reasons during rvs its redundant because these are completely unaligned reasons that would be the same regardless of rand, so the votes are equally as non-commital and passive as the entrances, and the argument falls apart pretty quickly because of that
I'm much more confident in my read that it's very unlikely both Hsu and Kawaii are both scum just because of their interaction. It just seems like scum wouldn't banter with each other about such fluff just right out of the gate.STDandCephriron this one.
And, as a matter of fact, one game when I was mafia, I tried pushing a similar point to move up the pace and fake a contribution.
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Why? I think that wagon is yucky.In post 246, ballpointpen wrote:i dont like anything about this post, least of all the weird shade on curious' wagonIn post 158, Greeting wrote:What aboutIn post 139, NJAC wrote:I liked his response to the pressure.In post 92, Greeting wrote:Why?In post 78, NJAC wrote: I think Hu Tao can go to my town pile.
@Hu Tao: what's your experience with Mafia games?
Bub explained it better in 118.
This also answers Hu Tao's 109.Hu Tao's response to pressure did you like? This slot has spent more energy being on the defensive than doing actual scumhunting. Seems to be quite comfortable sitting on thecuriouskarmadogwagon, which appears to be a cozy place to be for the time being.
I think this could be scum. The analysis looks great on the surface, but not so great when read in-depth. Like, the answer to his question lies in the context and not in the post itself and he was not able to catch that.In post 242, Cephrir wrote: i can't tell if this user is awkward or scum but woof
Sure, but then why not stay on the CKD wagon? You're throwing a lot of spaghetti around hoping it sticks to something.In post 254, ballpointpen wrote:it doesn't have to be w/w? there's been instances where people shade wagons so they can go "see how right i was" without actually fighting the wagon itself. either way, greeting's post is real low-blow to literally everyone who voted ckd while using that "fact" to accuse HuIn post 253, Bub Bidderskins wrote: Man I really don't get where ballpoint's coming from. Why would throwing weird shade at the CKD wagon be scummy...so much so that you'd swap off. The reason scum would want to throw shade on a wagon is if that wagon's a scumbud, so why not stay on the CKD wagon.
Seems very flip-floppy to me. Definitively suspicious of ballpoint right now.
I think you're not looking into it enough. I was the only one who mentioned all posts having intentions. They called it a town mistake to do so. That is specifically referencing me. Not town in general.In post 180, MalcolmTucker wrote:I think you've completely misinterpreted what Greeting said from reading it over again. Greeting was making a general comment that town will sometimes read too much into things, especially early game, and applying that logic to a scenario where you are town. If that were some unlikely possibility I'd understand the suspicion but in any given game of mafia most of us are town, it's not a stretch for Greeting to operate on the assumption you are early doors if they don't have a scumread on you as such.
I think you're town for this line of thinking though, I don't feel it's a strong reason for suspecting Greeting and I suspect scum would be a bit more aware of that and perhaps back off.
I don't have a problem with anyone's opinion on the game. They're condescending "???" part of their next post made me angry with them. Couple that with the fact they're obviously not reading the game and in that post they obviously guessed at what I said instead of actually reading it, lead to me being more on the attack instead of caring as much about what they think. It seems to me from this they're less interested in working with me and more interested in making me feel stupid. So I was no longer interested in their why.In post 183, curiouskarmadog wrote: why werent you curious WHY KT didnt like the Greetings push?
Obviously the "we" you mention in your post don't get it or you'd be flipped by now.In post 189, Greeting wrote:Okay, we get it.In post 176, Kowahbunga wrote:
Yeah it wasn't said like that at all. Post 48 - "Both town and mafia can make contentless posts for no reason or for whatever reason really.It is a common mistake for townto assume that every post has intention."
That was in response to my 44. "I feel like everything is alignment indicative. Every post is made with intentions. Its not up to the poster to express this, but up to the player-base to interpret."
They did not just simply say "Kowah is town" they responded and said what I said "is a common mistake for town" that's not a town read. That's not a guess. That was an attempt to discredit my opinion on the game followed by a them blatantly mentioning what my alignment is. This does not come from a town POV.
Also, why don't you actually read the game before you come in here and discredit what I've been doing? What gives you the confidence to come in here, tell me you don't like my push on Greeting, and then openly prove you haven't even looked at it?
How about you answerballpointpen's 129 now?
Are you really going to get a reaction, or even better a proper reaction, out of someone if they're never in danger of being limmed?In post 207, Cephrir wrote:To see how they reactIn post 168, Kowahbunga wrote:I dont see why it is? Whats the point of this wagon if not to lim them or get information out of them that makes us not want to lim them?In post 160, Cephrir wrote:seems really premature to meIn post 154, Kowahbunga wrote: I'm fine if we push this slot to a claim.
Idk he only has a handful of posts and I got town vibes off a couple of them so even though I do see why this wagon exists I'm skeptical
I'd like to see if the reason this pings you matches the reason it pings me. Would you be able to elaborate?In post 213, GuyInFreezer wrote:This post is pinging me so I must investigateIn post 144, Andante wrote: VOTE: curiouskarmadog
I don't have many reads, but this is just "I'm pushing a low poster cause I can" and it's "here's a push, but I can't push too much just cause there's nothing for the slot, but if I shade her enough, I can get votes there"
sorry, only enough room for 1 dog in this town.
I agree with this.In post 224, Cephrir wrote: Btw I think promising content and failing to deliver it is a scumteam and that's why I'm voting glitch
In post 244, GuyInFreezer wrote:I have concluded my investigation. I think it pinged me because it looks like he felt like he had to give some sort of reason to jump on the CKD wagon, which was being a fad at the time.In post 213, GuyInFreezer wrote:This post is pinging me so I must investigateIn post 144, Andante wrote: VOTE: curiouskarmadog
I don't have many reads, but this is just "I'm pushing a low poster cause I can" and it's "here's a push, but I can't push too much just cause there's nothing for the slot, but if I shade her enough, I can get votes there"
sorry, only enough room for 1 dog in this town.
Really? You thought Greetings said "Kowah is town" and my immediate reaction to it was the reaction I had? Greeting didn't even type my name in the post. You come in and act like I missed something by saying "Do you not know that "X is town"..." which isn't even CLOSE to what Greeting said.In post 255, KittyTacky wrote:I did read it.In post 176, Kowahbunga wrote:Yeah it wasn't said like that at all. Post 48 - "Both town and mafia can make contentless posts for no reason or for whatever reason really.In post 170, KittyTacky wrote:????In post 166, Kowahbunga wrote:Well you should. They literally slipped and called me town which is impossible for any town player to know on D1. Its not, however, impossible for scum to know on D1.In post 165, KittyTacky wrote: I don't like Kowah's push on Greeting.
Do you not know that "X is town" is basically just a way to say "I have a strong TR on X"?It is a common mistake for townto assume that every post has intention."
That was in response to my 44. "I feel like everything is alignment indicative. Every post is made with intentions. Its not up to the poster to express this, but up to the player-base to interpret."
They did not just simply say "Kowah is town" they responded and said what I said "is a common mistake for town" that's not a town read. That's not a guess. That was an attempt to discredit my opinion on the game followed by a them blatantly mentioning what my alignment is. This does not come from a town POV.
Also, why don't you actually read the game before you come in here and discredit what I've been doing? What gives you the confidence to come in here, tell me you don't like my push on Greeting, and then openly prove you haven't even looked at it?
I thought it implied a townread. Nice misrep of me mate.
they don't know they're in no danger of being limmed, and tbh they probably are in danger even if, say, my vote specifically is just for pressureIn post 268, Kowahbunga wrote:Are you really going to get a reaction, or even better a proper reaction, out of someone if they're never in danger of being limmed?In post 207, Cephrir wrote:To see how they reactIn post 168, Kowahbunga wrote:I dont see why it is? Whats the point of this wagon if not to lim them or get information out of them that makes us not want to lim them?In post 160, Cephrir wrote:seems really premature to meIn post 154, Kowahbunga wrote: I'm fine if we push this slot to a claim.
Idk he only has a handful of posts and I got town vibes off a couple of them so even though I do see why this wagon exists I'm skeptical
