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its a conundrum bc i wont believe it unless a doc outs but if there is a doc id rather they not outhemloreplacement queue-
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you out one mason and then ur just permanently in some ppls scum pools huhhemloreplacement queue-
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well since furtive confirmed theres two masons i just wanna say that i thought ckd was third mason. threw out gimli bc they had already claimed VT and i didnt wanna actually out the third mason when i was on the spot to out them. i only realized shortly afterwards that me thinking gimli was mason wasn't congruous with my faking a guilty on him but i decided id rather look scummy and dumb than out a third mason.hemloreplacement queue-
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what broIn post 4634, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
ok the more I think about this it's kinda frustrating and I think ur strong wolf againIn post 4619, Skygazer wrote: i mean with two scum left i dont put myself into the position id be in by claiming vt bc that forces a 1v1 that i'm liable to just lose. i'd claim like BP or something bc that looks somewhat townier w a scum BP already flipped.
what are the possibilities for sheep being a vig and failing a shot?
- i got doctored (lol no)
- sheep was jailkept and missed the loud/announcing PM (unlikely)
- i got jailkept and schadd never PMd me (very unlikely)
- i got rolestopped/aliened (unlikely since we're already aware of two jailkeepers)
- sheep got roleblocked (unlikely w two jailkeepers)
- sheep is disloyal (in which case they wouldve cleared me by now)
like ur adding a bunch of stuff that obviously didnt happen to make it seem more valid. sheep missed a PM, obviously not what the explanation is. I missed a PM, obviously not what the explanation is. sheep is disloyal and just didn't claim that, obviously isnt what happened bruh. that's half ur list which is too much of a BS effort to seem credible
the only way to approach this would be a very General logic. like "no way there exist any more power roles in this game for the mafia or for the town." but I dont think that sort of analysis is possible at this stage
I think that it's just like, not actually hard to imagine an explanation lol. there are infinite possible explanations technically. maybe they have some cool JOAT, 1-shot role cop, 1-shot rb, whatever. maybe the announcing JK is mafia and targeted the mason N1 to have a villagery claim later. If sky is mafia then obv there are obv additional realistic explanations. just the fact that it's technically totally feasibly possible invalidates a lot of the logics against me.hemloreplacement queue-
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i didnt think there was a reasonable explanation for you being town and now suddenly i think there might be a reasonable explanation for you being town. i dont see how me running thru all the possible explanations is scummy lmaohemloreplacement queue-
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i even almost included "sheep forgot to shoot but didnt realize they forgot" but thought that was kind of overkillhemloreplacement queue-
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u scumreading me was immensely less frustrating when i thought u were scumhemloreplacement queue-
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i think theres like exactly two scenarios in which i mightve possibly been doccedhemloreplacement queue-
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hmmmm idk with my luck sheep flips vig and then i get elimmed tomorrow lolhemloreplacement queue-
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this game has sucked for me for a while now tbhhemloreplacement queue-
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i mean its a conundrum bc if we flip sheep and theyre town then i die 2morrow and we're suddenly in melo. ill go back to voting sheep as soon as theres hard confirmation that i wasnt docced or etcIn post 4654, ofrhz wrote: I'm starting to feel like sky doesn't want sheep flipped (hence all this flip flopping deliberation and now the vote on venmar) because sheep will flip vig and it'll make her look badhemloreplacement queue-
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the other problem is sheep deeply feels like miselim bait to me but idkhemloreplacement queue-
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well the one that i actually wanna mention at the moment is theres like a combined doc + ?? that would give someone motivation for visiting me. i guess a third one could be like my plan to somehow mindfuck scum into thinking i was a mason backfired and misled a doctorhemloreplacement queue-
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i mean if that was the case i dont flip flop, i just hard defend sheep here or something. and i dont bring up the fact that them flipping vig would make me look badIn post 4654, ofrhz wrote: I'm starting to feel like sky doesn't want sheep flipped (hence all this flip flopping deliberation and now the vote on venmar) because sheep will flip vig and it'll make her look badhemloreplacement queue-
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claiming BP would be one way. arguing for the presence of a scum roleblocker/rolestopper/alien/jailkeeper/etc.hemloreplacement queue-
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i think after claims are done i might go back to sheep bc i think that their little flip flop on me could be indicative that they realized me flipping town looks rlly bad for them and then realizing im the strongest/most likely viable counterwagon if they dont wanna get elimmed today. and their recent reasons for scumreading me are ???hemloreplacement queue-
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im talkin from sheeps POV not my ownhemloreplacement queue-
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oh wait i get what u mean. eh idk. maybe theyre partners!hemloreplacement queue-
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this is why i think furtive is a deep wolfIn post 4686, ofrhz wrote: oh yeah no one else besides furtive slot claimed to have been visitedhemloreplacement queue-
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sorry i thought that i was pretty transparently shitpostingIn post 4689, ofrhz wrote:
Dragons confirmed they were masons, he has to be townIn post 4687, Skygazer wrote:
this is why i think furtive is a deep wolfIn post 4686, ofrhz wrote: oh yeah no one else besides furtive slot claimed to have been visitedhemloreplacement queue-
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two jailkeepers in the game but only one claimed so the other could be a scum jailkeepIn post 4697, curiouskarmadog wrote:
walk me through this line of thinking, I feel like I am missing something.In post 4673, Enchant wrote:
So i think Venmar is mafia who was roleblocked N1 from performing kill.
venmar got jailkept and there was no scum kill the night he was jailkept and if the second jailkeeper is scum then scum wouldn't have been shooting furtive anywayshemloreplacement queue-
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im fine w either but im going to get nasty with the AtE if sheep flips townhemloreplacement queue-
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not having a good day today i probably won't get nasty i just really don't wanna be in that situationhemloreplacement queue-
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i think i'll be done playing mafia soon and just stick to good ol' moddinghemloreplacement queue-
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there's more tolerance for stupid ideas when moddinghemloreplacement queue-
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also pretend my vote on sheep. they called my play FPS which stands for fancy player syndrome in poker and they ignored questions about what FPS means twice. thinking they realized that calling my play FPS seems to carry an implication that they're calling me dumb town so they're just dodging explaining the acronym to avoid the tmi slip.hemloreplacement queue-
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if you think that's AtE you haven't seen anything yet!In post 4711, curiouskarmadog wrote:
thought you were going to wait for ATEIn post 4705, Skygazer wrote: there's more tolerance for stupid ideas when moddinghemloreplacement queue-
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all things considered this has been a fun game I'm just being dramatichemloreplacement queue-
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what is your scum pool looking like?hemloreplacement queue-
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if sheep flips town this game gets extremely hard so id rather figure some more shit outhemloreplacement queue-
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i think sheep is probably scum but ye im nervous !!hemloreplacement queue-
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or i could lol hammer and take all the glory of a potential scum fliphemloreplacement queue-
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but i think with how things are going sheep will flip town if i hammer and flip scum if i dont hammerhemloreplacement queue-
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see now that someone else hammered sheep will flip scum
thank me laterhemloreplacement queue-
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1) bc i decided to check my text messages before i postedIn post 4758, Enchant wrote:
whyIn post 4756, Skygazer wrote: i got announcing jailkept btw
noIn post 4757, Skygazer wrote: am i clear yet
2) ohhemloreplacement queue-
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me too!!!In post 4762, Enchant wrote: all what i say this game is harmful for town somehowhemloreplacement queue-
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i guess furtive can be town since this supposed announcing jailkeeper actually existshemloreplacement queue-
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i kind of think enchant can go back into my potential scum pile. they went from like confident enough to make me green in a reads list a bit ago to wanting me killed before sheep without much explanation and i think that could be indicative of needing my miselim on the table to win. also feel like their frustration at the start of this day is weird.
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leaning towards announcing jk being town. if the announcing jk is scum then venmar would be clear here but ye.hemloreplacement queue-
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furtive was more likely saved than venmar blocked but yehemloreplacement queue-
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hu tao looking townier? they were the only one to vote me yesterday and i think that scum would wanna distance from sheephemloreplacement queue-
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by that logic i should be townreading enchant hmmmhemloreplacement queue-
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not necessarily an "always bussing thing" idk i just feel like there would be a lil more distancing. tho enchant did end up on sheep in the end igIn post 4777, furtiveglance wrote:
How useful is the logic of 'scum always bus' really?In post 4774, Skygazer wrote: by that logic i should be townreading enchant hmmmhemloreplacement queue-
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it was a speculation i made yesterday bc the jailkeeper never outted but after being jailkept last night am p sure that the jailkeep is town bc 1) theyd need a multitasking modifier to be scum and 2) their actions make sense as town over scumIn post 4782, Venmar wrote: Why are we assuming that 2nd JK is mafia anyways?hemloreplacement queue-
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i think ive been on every town flip and off every scum flip wowhemloreplacement queue-
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clearly jailkeeper wanted to protect me for my stunningly dangerous reads rather than try to block mehemloreplacement queue-
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but ya im clear barring like me being a strongman or something ighemloreplacement queue-
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actually can an ascetic even be strongmanned? i might just be entirely clearhemloreplacement queue-
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lookin at ofhrz's post:
ya i think like 4 clears is the norm; 2 masons plus two jailkeepers feels kind of overpowered but the loud is kind of negative utility bc theyre liable to get outted as a PR immediately, and scum also learn about the announcing jailkeeper's existence as soon as one of that jk's targets outs. ascetic is kindddd of a millerish kind of thing bc they dont get the loud or announcing stuff and cant be protected. uhhh i think announcing jailkeeper is probably town bc this would be scumsided if they were scum!hemloreplacement queue-
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1-shot bodyguard feels out of place herehemloreplacement queue-
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