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[sheepsaysmeep]

It was just a couple things from the game but I’m saying overall I think ur lilely villa anyway

Like tbf literally skygazer was also voting Malcolm over me earlier I’m just very confused and know it’s not very accurate yet lmao

[sheepsaysmeep]

Oh wow e1 lol I Request some time pls

[Skygazer]

im just sheeping furtive at this point

[schadd_]

Spoiler:

vote count 4.2 !

sheepsaysmeep (6):

Doctor Drew, Venmar, Enchant, furtiveglance, Skygazer, Kowahbunga

Venmar (2):

Hu Tao, curiouskarmadog

MalcolmTucker (1):

NJAC

not voting (3):

MalcolmTucker, ofrhz, sheepsaysmeep

with 12 alive, it takes 7 to dry someone's whistle. day 4 ends in (expired on 2023-05-14 17:52:49)

moderateur notes

• curiouskarmadog is gone this afternoon until the 8th

[Doctor Drew]

Oh no not Tatis.

Also, should be back later with actual stuffs and things.

[sheepsaysmeep]

kowah what happened to Gimli-slot + sky should be dimmed by principle? would u still prefer those over like, Malcolm

[Hu Tao]

It begins

Hello everyone

So right off the bat I'm somewhat suspicious of both Kawaii and Hu Tao here. This is admitedly somewhat weak because the game just started, but both of these posts are really fluffy, non-commital and not progressing the game. Now, is this progressing the game more than a random vote? I dunno, but the reason why "random" votes are a thing is to create an initial paper trail of some sort...they aren't really random, so it immediately puts the scum in a bit of a pick of whether or not to bus. So far, these posts are just the most flimsy, "hey I'm here but not actually advancing the game" kind of posts.

I'm, going to go ahead and VOTE: Hu Tao


Mainly because it was another post right after a fluff post by Kawaii. Kind of reads as scum thinking "okay, need to say something now to not look suspicious" while being non-comittal.

Also going to put a

finger of suspicion on Kawaii

for similar sorts of reasons, but I think it's very unlikely that both Kawaii and Hu are scum. No way a scum comes in right after their buddy to make an almost identical post.

let me play the devil's advocate to your accusation: what you pointed out isn't unique to those two users, since savethedragons (i'll abbreivate to STD if that's ok) also just said "hi" without casting a vote, so wouldn't the same kind of logic apply to them?

and while people do vote for reasons during rvs its redundant because these are completely unaligned reasons that would be the same regardless of rand, so the votes are equally as non-commital and passive as the entrances, and the argument falls apart pretty quickly because of that

Meow wow I caught page 1!

VOTE: ballpointpen for breaking in my backpack and spilling ink over my physics textbook.

how the fuck could you possibly break me without actually trying
besides, im erasable. big difference.

Sure, it's just the the timing that seemed a little...eh to me. Sort of "hey, let's show my face so everyone knows I'm cool but not actually try to move towards finding scum>" I'll admit it's weak and I'm not married to this tell, but my general read of scum behavior is that they're like politicans who'll pop in to show themselves but don't actually want to be attached to a wagon.

I'm much more confident in my read that it's very unlikely both Hsu and Kawaii are both scum just because of their interaction. It just seems like scum wouldn't banter with each other about such fluff just right out of the gate.

there's a distinction between AI and wifom. even if you do believe everything that has been posted has some sort of motivation, it might just be irrelevant because there's an equal chance that the user posted it as town or scum, which is exactly what those two posts are: there's nothing distinct about posting "hi" for either alignment, making the alignment read a massive stretch.

Cephrir reads as pretty town to me. His posts basically amount to "chill out" which doesn't seem like something scum would say.

In my mind, scum would want to sort of half-assedly back a wagon without really putting themselves out there. Kind of blatantly saying "chill out" like Cephrir did just doesn't read to me as the sort of thing that would occur to scum to do.

now i think you're just imposing your "example" of the scum player to judge others, and as it turns out, most scum aren't frozen half-assed lurkers because of playstyle discrepancies and that will definitely screw up your reads at some point
powerwolfing is a bit of myth though dont @ me

I don't see these as scum interactions with scum. So I won't be voting sheep. Can we vote venmar or Malcom

[Kowahbunga]

kowah what happened to Gimli-slot + sky should be dimmed by principle? would u still prefer those over like, Malcolm

If I had my way we would lim Gimli slot. I would also support a Sky lim.

However, Im not going to muddy this game fighting for what I believe over what a confirmed townie thinks. While I believe in my reads, I have no issues following a voice I know I can trust.

[ofrhz]

whistles

[Skygazer]

my instinct is to vote malcolm but i feel like ill play better if i avoid my instincts

[ofrhz]

I'm ok giving sheep more time but still prefer him to Malcolm. Sheep doesn't seem very motivated to solve.... he says Malcolm/Sky doesn't make sense as a team (and he said this at the end of yesterDay too), but then where does he go from there?

[ofrhz]

I don't see these as scum interactions with scum. So I won't be voting sheep. Can we vote venmar or Malcom

Some of those posts seem like interacting for the sake of interacting tbh. I'd be open to voting Venmar though

[Kowahbunga]

Do we know/have a good guess at how many remaining scum there are?

[furtiveglance]

STD died so that we may live. Least we can do is follow up on his suspicions

[Hu Tao]

There is confirmed to be 2 scum left

[Skygazer]

13:4 is p standard for a 17 player game

[ofrhz]

sheep has until Monday morning to convince me he's town or I bring out the ---------[]

[Skygazer]

VOTE: ofhrz

[Skygazer]

sorry instincts took over for a sec

VOTE: sheep

[ofrhz]

Huh?

[Doctor Drew]

Kitty seems like a reasonable elimination but I'm VT, so if you do want to get rid of me to simply end the turn feel free, anything for the game to progress onto D2.

I will say I find it interesting that Malcolm was town reading Kitty, and then makes this post(yes was awhile back, cruising through there iso now).

And why were they claiming anything at this point?

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: malcom

How come?

Ew, ew........ewwwww

Can we agree that no matter what Sheep flips, Malcolm is next.

Like I don't even need to read anymore of their iso.

Furt, I offer condolances to your fallen comrade, they were a true patriot. But maybe malcolm is a better vote for today?

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: malcom

How come?

Ew, ew........ewwwww

Can we agree that no matter what Sheep flips, Malcolm is next.

Like I don't even need to read anymore of their iso.

Furt, I offer condolances to your fallen comrade, they were a true patriot. But maybe malcolm is a better vote for today?

Maybe, maybe not

You know that at least 2 good players want to vote Sheep though

[furtiveglance]

TOE THE LINE MY PEOPLE

[Venmar]

I don't see these as scum interactions with scum. So I won't be voting sheep. Can we vote venmar or Malcom

Some of those posts seem like interacting for the sake of interacting tbh. I'd be open to voting Venmar though

I'm ok giving sheep more time but still prefer him to Malcolm. Sheep doesn't seem very motivated to solve.... he says Malcolm/Sky doesn't make sense as a team (and he said this at the end of yesterDay too), but then where does he go from there?

sheep has until Monday morning to convince me he's town or I bring out the ---------[]

Is there a reason you insist on shading me while being deliberately lukewarm on Sheep? I feel like the first two quoted posts are you going out of your way to scumread Sheep while saying you'd vote me also in the first post, and the third post just feels like theatre tbh like you're trying to build a case to vote Sheep while also not committing?