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Ok everyone, I'll be frank here. I'm moving for the rest of the month, and that's put a dent in all online activity. However, I'm not going to make my first, and possibly only game of 2010 end up in failure. Those who've played with me know my style. Those who don't, be in for a surprise, or hey- read my games.
See y'all after my readthrough!I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Right from the page 3 get-go, Hiphop's not looking that good. Vets, how many times has a townie who has been on for over a year said the phrase 'That does not help my win condition'? Especially regarding something as harmless as a self-vote in the RVS.
Oooh, and here's Wickedestjr siding with Hiphop against Kise. Noted and noted.
Danakillsu's 72: "Well it's funny to see the reactions I got from pretending I knew UA was scum." Bullshit. Those who bluff like that- especially a stupid bluff like that- don't back off after a measly amount of pressure is put on. You're lying about bluffing, though I'm not sure you're scum.
Wickedest pops on the Dana wagon without a single remark towards it in 80.
JD is being JD. This is a JDtell and when we're voting who JD is, I will vote him.
Man, I like Xite's style! Not really a towntell, but 103's citation made me chuckle.
Frank's 110 has some serious buddying going on. It's possible he sees Dana's sinking ship and is trying to distance as much as he can.
Ooh! And bam with the scum vibes in 112-114. Frank has, in these short posts, insulting, being sure UA's mafia, insulting, threatening a vote, insulting, and once more bringing up 'win condition as town'.FoS:Anyone who EVER says that phrase or a variation thereof.
Dana and frank arguing makes my head hurt with the accumulated scumvibes. Of the two, Frank's better, but neither are good. The more they talk, the more I want them gone.
Frank in 140: 'You are obvscum, as is reflected by the votecount.' uuuuuuuuuugh
Bunnylover's 167 is a wonderful example of early-game lurking.
Reck's meta on Dana being chronically scummy should be taken into account to a degree, but it's not a get out of jail free card.
Shanba and Reckoner have a few posts of thoughtful, respectful discussion. I think that's a record int his game so far.
Chaz is probably town
Nhammen too, though not as likely as Chaz
I accept 192 as a reasonable reason for Bunnylover's lurking. Still lurking.
Post 201 and Hiphop's still not improved
Wickedestjr's 215 makes me cry on the inside. If he's town, he's terrible at it.
Though his 229 and 230 have redeaming qualities
in 259 Furclow continues to dig his own grave
And Dana claims cop. Ugh. We'll see how this plays out, but to be honest? This is a Flameaxe game. I would be UTTERLY unshocked if he gave cop as a fakeclaim.
Chaz, being unhelpful doesn't mean being scum, and playstyle's a much better reason for lurking than denying it or apologizing, which WOULD be scummy.
See Frank dig his grave. Dig, Frank, dig!
Dang, Wraith. A 1/24 chance of hitting scum today? I'd LOVE to know where you got that statistic.
In 391, with very little comparitive pressure, Wraith says he'd make a good D1 lynch. The combined scumminess of a handful of players is ridiculous.
Robbnva's posts so far are useless. Worse than bunny's, that's for sure.
Wraith is directing the vig. More UUUUUUUUUGH!
Oh! And Frank's directing a cop he doesn't even believe in.
FLinter pings with 433, not as much as all my other suspects though
@Dana's 452- In middle school I did not comb my hair, nor did I wear deodorant. I wasn't very popular, but no one called me inhuman.
With 472, ConfidAnon makes a nice solid PING!
Frank's 505 adds WIFOM to his list of crimes.
Frank claims vanilla! Now he dies : D
Franks 556- Why will the town lose if you, a vanilla, dies?
Frank, no matter how much you caps, it won't make us this you REALLY ARE TOWN
David enters with a vote on the claimed cop, with no mention of the Frank wagon. I can see Dana suspicion easily, but I think Frank deserves mention.
.........And he claims cop. Joyous. This is a Flameaxe game. I would be utterly unshocked if we had two varying sanity cops.
And Wraith tries to direct the doc ><
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The TL:DR of it:
Scummy(In order)
Furcolow
Wickedestjr
Wraith
Hiphop
danakillsu
Robbnva
Flinter
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I took the time during the night to do one of my favorite scumhunting tricks: VC analysis. The following are the people who were on both wagons (Dana and Frank):
Prozac, Mysterio, singersigner, Wraith, Benmage, hiphop, Reck
(Note: If Dana is scum, Prozac and Benmage can be removed from this because they were in the first three to vote him)
The following people were on neither wagon:
flinter, DavidParker, WickedestJr, Orochi, Sebguer, Kise
Now, it stands to reason that scum want a lynch quickly D1. If the person is town, they want them dead. If they're scum, they want the town-points associated with being on the lynchwagon for scum. That said, people who were on NEITHER wagon also stand a good chance at being cowardly scum who don't want attention drawn to them. I PROMISE. 100% Gorrad assurance. 2-3 people on the first list are scum. I'd also hypothesize that one of (Flinter, WickedestJr, Kise) are scum. Orochi and Sebguer were too inactive for me to be sure.
@.@ is full of BS on a number of different things, but the primary one is that there's a chance we're dealing with multiple mafias. If there were more, BBM would have put something other than 'mafia goon' as the role. @.@, I dare you to find me a counterexample. He's trying to look smart and powerful while making all kinds of shit up. I'm also getting progressively worse vibes from Reck.
For right now, though:Vote: Wraith. Wraith is the second scummiest alive person on my list from yesterday, and was on both wagons. I'm confident in this choice at this time.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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If I push it now, it will devolve and distract from Wraith and others who should be lynched. I don't want you to be lynched today. If such a time comes, I promise you (and you can totally hold me to this) I'll come back here and point out specifics. One of the primary reasons why Wraith wasn't bandwagoned yesterday was that he was quiet with his scumminess, whilst Frank and Dana were loud and obnoxious with theirs. Not today. Today is spotlight: Wraithscum.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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That was Frank, not DP. DP was claiming cop until the end of the day. Therefore, Dana was right in investigating him.Robbnva wrote:BUT right before DP claimed it was posted he fake claims often even when he is town, plus later he changed to say he breadcrummed Doc
@@.@: Simply put, your case on bunny has nothing to do with bunny being scummy. I honestly cannot see an experienced player acting like bunny does as town OR scum, and if you look at bunny as a newbie your case on him can EASILY be attributed to ignorance. Wraith, on the other hand, just pulled the self-vote to see who votes me then OMGUS trick. Classic scum play, in addition to past infractions.
Flinter, are you honestly suggesting we lynch one of the more experienced players solely on the fact that they're an experienced player? Protip: Experienced townies are usually a lot better than newbies. Sure, experienced scum are often a lot better than newbie scum, but the odds are that there's going to be a lot more experienced town than experienced scum, and experienced town can catch experienced scum. Lynching based on experience is a, to be honest, shitty way of narrowing down who to lynch. Especially early game.
Also: 713- possible Bunny-Flinter connection. Noted for later.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Aha! That makes more sense. Thanks : )flinter wrote:
Lol, no. Dana asked who she should investigate, those were my answers. If you catch experienced scum that way, you've lost a big problem. If you confirm experienced town that way, the positive effect is much bigger then that you would have confirmed an unexperienced player.Gorrad wrote:Flinter, are you honestly suggesting we lynch one of the more experienced players solely on the fact that they're an experienced player? Protip: Experienced townies are usually a lot better than newbies. Sure, experienced scum are often a lot better than newbie scum, but the odds are that there's going to be a lot more experienced town than experienced scum, and experienced town can catch experienced scum. Lynching based on experience is a, to be honest, shitty way of narrowing down who to lynch. Especially early game.
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AtE also = Active Time Event. When the ATE window pops up, select an active time event to watch. This lets you see what's going on in the story in multiple places at the same time.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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I'm quoting this so when I reread my posts later on I'll be reminded of it. It stands out to me as important.Shanba wrote:I don't think Wraith is scum. I don't agree that the shift on position on Frank is particularly scummy - if you read my posts you'll notice a similar thing happening with my read on dana (though in the opposite direction). More to the point, though, that kind of repositioning requires a degree of bravery, and hence is more likely to come through conviction of belief than desire to jump on a lynchwagon.
The rest of the Wraith case is not overly convincing.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Please tell me you don't ACTUALLY believe this. That kill could have come from:Wickedestjr wrote:
Unless this is a Mafia and Werewolves setup, which isn't a possibility I orginally thought of, then it only makes sense for the nhammen kill to have been from an SK.xRECKONERx wrote:Wicked's deduction that there is a SK doesn't sit well with me.
SK
A second kill from the same mafia (I've given specific mafia members addition one-shot kills in the past)
Vig
PGO (for those unfamiliar with the role, kills those who target it at night. All in all unlikely given that the deceased is vanilla, but possible)
In a previous Flameaxe game, when two cult recruiters targeted the same person, that person died. Though I'm not suggesting a cult in this game, there could be two such counteracting roles.
Inventor
Reflector
ANY OTHER ROLE that Flameaxe could have made up. Even though this is a normal, BBM is far from your traditional mod. If we don't have some downright extraordinary roles this game, I will be shocked. By Science.
All that said? Probably SK or Vig. But do not make the mistake of thinking that it could only be a SK.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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This and Xite's counterposts have completely nullified any town vibes I might have been getting from your ISOs. Those vibes mostly being 'Wow, Wraith's made two posts that weren't stupid and/or trying to get himself lynched.'Wraith wrote:Hey, how about you flip me and find that I'm town before you start lynching the only sane man in this town.
Shanba, you miss the point of Xite's latest posts. The case against Wraith has been made repeatedly by multiple people. Heck, I made one in my readthrough. Xite's posts have been adding to it- the, as you put it, snarky comments and calling him out as scum with scumtells? That's him countering any pro-town vibes people (see above) may have gotten from such an undeniably scummy character. I just woke up, so I'm not sure that makes as much sense on paper as it did in my head. Ask if I need to clarify.
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@Everyone, but mostly Shanba
Did no one else see 869? That's him practically spelling out that he's saying 'lynch me' so he won't be lynched. Seriously! I'm agog that no one else has commented on that.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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See? See? Shanba- I have a lot of respect for you as a player. PLEASE tell me you see what Wraith is saying! Refusing to claim this early on in his wagon is fine, but he's saying that he will not claim at ALL before his lynch. That's actively anti-town behavior.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Bravo, Xite. Well done indeed. While a funny play, you've managed to COMPLETELY derail the very wagon you've been pushing all day. This includes the fact that you yourself have unvoted said wagon and not revoted. Do you honestly believe Wraith's reaction is so bloody protown that it absolves him?
Porochaz, you claim Wraith's acted like this as town? Links or it didn't happen.
Wicked, I just wanted to argue the point. You seemed rather certain of something that should not be a definite.
Robbn's 945 grants major scumpoints.
All three of the wagons- Wraith, Robbn, and Mysterio- are decent ones. However, Wraith has done absolutely nothing protown other than MAYBE those two posts a few pages back all of the days, and has done significant work to detract from the town's effectiveness. Robbn is a poor player regardless of alignment, and that pings scumdars. Mysterio, though a follower, has at least ATTEMPTED to contribute to the town much more than Wraith.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Myproblemisthatboldphrasesareannoyinganddistracting. They make people focus only on the bold, and not the post as a whole. Please, when writing emphasis, use some other means than fancy formatting.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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@Wickedest, just glancing at his iso, isos 3-6 are contributions, or at the minimum attempts thereof. Also, I'd like to point out that the only reason I was second to last on Frank's wagon is because that was when I replaced in.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Allow me to clarify: A second scum kill could have been redirected by any number of means to kill the second person last night.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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An explanation and/or reminder to those non-programmers/mathematicians in the audience: When two values are placed in brackets and separated by a comma, it represents the inclusive list of values from the first to the second. As I'm the first vote on Wraith and CA is the latest, Kise is saying that this block represents everyone who is voting Wraith as of the last VC.Kise wrote:[Gorrad, ConfidAd]
Took me a sec to realize what you meant, Kise, so I figured others may have the same issue : )I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Kise wrote:@Gorrad: No, I'm including you and ConfidAd as the two I feel are possible mafia on Wraith's wagon. No one else voting Wraith is a scummer in my eyes.
I'm calling Porochaz as Godfather right now.
Oh! My mistake.
Wraith, I'm voting you because you have not only contributed next to nothing this entire game, but your attitude has actively served to detract from actions in the town's benefit IE scumhunting. If you were town, you would spend less times saying 'woe is me lynch me guys' and more time scumhunting. The one brief time you attempted to do so, the two isos a little while back, was not only not enough to make up for the considerable amount of detraction, it was also was quickly and neatly refuted by Xite.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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This preview has been approved for all audiences.Xite91 wrote:K guys, I got the day off of work tomorrow partially for this game (feel loved) I plan to be spending at least 2 hours on the post(s) I will be giving you which will probably include
1) A case on robbie
2) A case on wraith
3) An analysis on my gambit
4) A case on those I find scummy enough based on said analysis
5) A possible VC analysis if I deem that there's enough change in votes to do so (but probably not because we haven't gotten enough flips)
6) A TL;DR type scum/town/neutral list and maybe even the key points of everything
7) And maybe even a full reread analysis if I feel up to it
I'm telling you this for 2 reasons.
1) If you want to see anything else from me with this/these masspost(s), let me know and I will include them
2) If I leave anything out (I tend to forget things ) then let me know after my huge post(s)I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Wicked: I only READ his first few posts. I didn't go through all what, 17? The first few were contributions, and you said you wanted me to point out an example. There's an example. And yes, I think four posts of contribution are worth more than Wraith's many posts of detraction.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Xite, the person you've been pushing all day is at L-3 and you swap wagons? Gods above and below, if I didn't think you were town I'd see scum bailing from vote count analysis. Stop being an ADD fruitcake and finish off one scum before going to another.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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1) When a scum doesn't claim, he doesn't have to fakeclaim. When a townie doesn't claim, the ONLY REASON is if he has a power role that he feels for one reason or another cannot be revealed until his death. The latter is not only extremely rare, but scum use it as a way to fakeclaim without fakeclaiming (though that does not seem to be the case this time). It also, of course, is keeping information from the town. The more information we have, the less confused we are. The less confused we are, the more scum we catch.
2) Robbn is a poor player. Poor town or poor scum, either way pings people's scumdars. Wraith is not a bad player, I believe. I believe he is a remarkably scummy player.
3) Making assumptions about night actions, unless one is a power role and has other information, is useless at this point. It detracts from scumhunting by muddling up the thread with worthless speculation. My posts were meant to combat that speculation by showing its futility.
4) Anti-town is, in fact, the definition of scum. They're the anti-town faction(s). They are against us. If scum weren't anti-town, we wouldn't have a game. We'd have a town full of happy, contented people.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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You're putting the FIRST vote on your first choice of scum, leaving a wagon of eight on your second choice of scum.
Does anyone else find this illogical? Is it just me? Because I don't follow.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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First I've heard of this. Explain.Xite91 wrote:Considering rereading Wraith's ISO I'm not as positive Wraith is scum?I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Also, I just realized I hadn't made this point yet, which is odd because I usually do in such a situation. All those posts where Wraith's only point is to try for townpoints? Hey, guess what- TOWN DOESN'T NEED TOWNPOINTS. Town needs other people's scumpoints. Scum need townpoints. A townie goes into a game of mafia saying 'Hey, let's find the scum'. A scum goes into a game of mafia saying 'Hey, I'm gonna try to not be lynched'.
To everyone: Of those two categories, can you REALLY see Wraith in the former more than the latter? If he were honestly town, if he sooooo didn't want to play the game he signed up for by scumhunting, which is what town do in a mafia game, he'd have left by now.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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*SNRK* Ok. Yeah. You have a point, Xite.Robbnva wrote:3. I can easily say you are wrong when you say I am scum, cause YOU ARE WRONG. I am not scum,I am pro-town. This is not my opinion, this is FACT. only way to prove it though is at the end of the game, or when I am lynched, or if I am killed.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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How could it be biased? I don't think I've played with either of them. If I have, it's been months and I don't remember. This is my first game of 2010.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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In my experience, Shanba, yeah. It's scummy. It's been my opinion since the first game I played that a town player's main focus should be on scumhunting. Defensive posts, posts proclaiming one's towniness, all those take a back seat to, I dunno, trying to win.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Because he at least LOOKS like he's trying to scumhunt. I can see his posts far more from noobtown.Xite91 wrote:
What based on a terrible post?Gorrad wrote:I'm liking a Mysterio wagon less and less.
Or is it because he agrees with you?
Explain plox
Wraith's posts don't even have internal consistency. He's tired of being lynched as town, so he tells the town to lynch him repeatedly? The hell?I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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It's still better than a good number of people here ><Robbnva wrote:
1. looking like he is trying to scum hunt =/= scum huntingGorrad wrote:
Because he at least LOOKS like he's trying to scumhunt. I can see his posts far more from noobtown.Xite91 wrote:
What based on a terrible post?Gorrad wrote:I'm liking a Mysterio wagon less and less.
Or is it because he agrees with you?
Explain plox
Wraith's posts don't even have internal consistency. He's tired of being lynched as town, so he tells the town to lynch him repeatedly? The hell?
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Yeah dude. You kinda started before you were even brought up as a candidate.Xite91 wrote:
but you started this when there was barely any attention on youWraith wrote:I asked to be hammered several times because I figured the cause was lost (especially since everything I said was being turned against me) and preferred not to spend any more attention on a lost cause. I wanted the town to quit focusing on a massive distraction, get the definitive info they needed, and start lynching the real scum.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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This is you pretty much admitting that the only reason you've wanted to get lynched is for townpoints. Once more, guess who needs townpoints. Hint: Not town.Wraith wrote:Because you should totally just lynch the guy who wants to be lynched. That's smart in any game. Whatever, I've made my cases, lynch me now so I don't have to waste anymore time here.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Wickedest, look at this. This is my response to you, Bunny, and all the others. Wraith here is admitting that the only reason he's been self-sacrificing is so that people WON'T lynch him.Gorrad wrote:
This is you pretty much admitting that the only reason you've wanted to get lynched is for townpoints. Once more, guess who needs townpoints. Hint: Not town.Wraith wrote:Because you should totally just lynch the guy who wants to be lynched. That's smart in any game. Whatever, I've made my cases, lynch me now so I don't have to waste anymore time here.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Ghkt! This has to be what it's like for someone with sense in the DC universe. "Dude! Superman is Clark Kent! Can't you tell? I mean, he just puts on glasses!" People who aren't voting wraith, read these posts he makes!Wraith wrote:Dana, if you're really the cop, investigate me tonight. Now that people are actually realizing that my wagon is bogus, and that I'm being given a chance to post freely without everyone jumping on me for being scum, I might just be able to live today.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Wow. Just...Wow.
Xite, I agree with you. Robb is pretty bleedin' scummy, and I would not hesitate to lynch him. However, I feel the same way about Wraith. I honestly have seen no compelling reason, from you or anyone else, to swap wagons. If you can convince me of your reasoning behind Xite being town without saying 'Read his Iso and see how it feels' for I have and it feels like obvious scum, I'm willing to swap.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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No directing the Gorram cop! D Xsingersigner wrote:And also, I agree with Robbnva about potentially investigating Xite tonight, if only to confirm he's town. He posts the most beefy stuff of anyone, and I'd like to know if the people who agree with him are agreeing with town, or their scum-buddy. We can go from there.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Quoted for truth.xRECKONERx wrote:Actually, I do have a friend in Seattle who I need to go visit.
I want a hands up of anyone who is not voting Wraith and thinks they will be able to get everyone they need on another wagon before Friday. If anyone even THINKS the phrase 'no-lynch' without they predecessor "we don't want a", I will vig you so hard your brains pop.
That is by no means whatsoever a claim in any way, shape, or form.
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The following people were on all wagons:
Singersigner, Wraith, hiphop
The following people were on no wagons:
Eek, Kise
I can see the Mysterio wagon as NOTHING but scum trying to bail out one of their own. He's been on all three wagons, he's actively detracted from the town, and it's high time he finally bit it.Vote: Wraith
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Shanba, I don't see your case, to be honest. Frank played poorly, and everyone was on his case. That's why we lynched him. I see iso 15 as more an attack on him than a defense of Porochaz. As for 20, are you seriously saying that's defense? You decided to put a vote on someone with no case whatsoever. I don't see how reacting to that adversely is scummy or defending of Poro at all.
You've been tunneling on Porochaz for ages, with what I see as a sequence of poor cases. Today's kill is going to be Wraith, and I'll tell you why. Because, IF Wraith is town, no mafia in their right mind would NK him. He's a scummy claimed vanilla who has come very close to lynch. And if our mysterious second killer was going to do the honor, he would have last night. The only way Wraith is going to die is by lynch, and if we put it off we're only delaying the inevitable.
So sure. Robb's scummy. Maybe Porochaz as well. But either of them could could still be, for one reason or another, killed off at night. There is no good move today that I can see that isn't a Wraith lynch.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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1) Yes. You're tunneling. I'm doing some as well, sure, but I'm also looking hard at Robb.Shanba wrote:Holy crap did I just get accused of tunneling by the guy who has done nothing else for the last day and a bit but tunnel on wraith?
Let me put this simply. Wraith is a terrible lynch. Frankly I'm simply astonished that you are so convinced by it - I literally cannot understand your viepoint. Like, at all. Frank was not a great lynch either. Both are simply players playing badly. Prozac is a player comitting scumtells. This is aclear and obvious difference. And you're a good player, so what in the name of Woden's Beard is going on?
And this? Clear bullshit. We should lynch him because scum won't kill him? Seriously? Are you even listening to yourself any more? ARGH this game.He's a scummy claimed vanilla who has come very close to lynch. And if our mysterious second killer was going to do the honor, he would have last night. The only way Wraith is going to die is by lynch, and if we put it off we're only delaying the inevitable.
2) I don't see these scumtells. I honestly don't. I see Wraith, who has actively detracted from the town since D1. If he was bad town, he'd be like Mysterio (and yes, Frank) and trying to contribute.
3) Bunny has it right. As long as he is not lynched, he's going to be a scummy distraction. He's going to continue to be a detriment to the town. There is no way short of cop confirmation that he will be cleared. If he's not lynched today, he'll be a distraction tomorrow. Repeat ad nauseum. Way to misrepresent me, dude.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Wraith: I really like how you're starting to contribute. It almost makes up for your not doing so earlier, except for the fact that you only started doing so after I constantly called you out for it.
Dana has serious strikes against him, but I have to disagree with
Scum died N1. Therefore, scum know they're not the only kill. Therefore, they'd read the gorram opening post.Robbnva wrote:tbh only scum would refuse to look at the death writeup imo since they are already know who is dead.
I think the fact that Dana's still alive is a huge load of WIFOM. I'm not going to fall for it.
Post preview Edit: A) Don't speculate on NKs. B) As SK, I would want to be able to fakeclaim vig due to there only being two kills N1. Therefore I'd target those much higher on my scumlist than Benmage. While this IS WIFOM, it's the kind I'd have to setup beforehand and tell me, which would be better- me setting up this as WIFOM, or me with a vig claim? The answer's obviously the latter. And Claim: Not a VigI will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Xite's iso: Roughly 3,000 words.DemonHybrid wrote:Yeah. Well, Xite, seriously, ISO yourself. Compare the length to War and Peace. Did you expect that I read every word of it?
War and Peace: Roughly 560,000 words.
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