New York 152 Niiightless Game Over!

[BK201]

sup.
VOTE: noraaa
seems like she has the urge to post for the sake of posting.

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I"m probably failing for always being on my ipod in class.

I'm going to minimize you guys and try to work on my paper for a while.

Me? I'm not on anyone's side but the truth.


(cue law and order theme song)

That first post seemed unprompted, like she felt the pressure to keep her presence up. Whether or not she is mafia might depend on how she usually plays, but have never played with her so idk how that is.

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I'm gonna go ahead and say this game is mountainous.

This seems like an impossible thing to know by someone who is town and serves no useful purpose at this point in the game. Confirm vote.

If Red is scum, Major is probably scum with him.

Pine is scum because he isn't yelling and pushing a bullshit case.

Well Red and Pine seem kind of scummy, especially Pine's posts. I don't see how if Red is scum, how that makes Pine probably scum though.

Oh no, anything but talking like a normal person in a mafia game

She's actually contributing stuff.

wat, man you missed the point.

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Nobody else sees noraaa as suspicious? Did I join a game where people just don't vote their friends?

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@crypto people who change votes way too much bother me, you're probably going be stuck as a scumread most of the game because of it

That is incredibly scummy of you.

saying it doesn't make it so

What's so scummy about changing your vote often? Crypto doesn't seem panicked.

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Seriously?
... I do not think red was scum. Meh.

And BB isn't scum either.

buddying or maybe even defending scum partner(s). +1 for me.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: mb53

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@noraaa changed my vote because someone else made a bigger blip on my scumdar afterwords. How is that scummy? Also what you call conversational I see as nervous, not used to people making excuses for leaving the forum. (check the poxnora forums off topic for my meta lol, also it's a cool game)

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What excuse did I make for leaving the forum? Surely you aren't referring to my v/la...

this one, #65 "I'm probably failing for always being on my ipod in class.

I'm going to minimize you guys and try to work on my paper for a while."

so mb what's up?

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Seriously: Why does inte have zero votes?

unvote

Vote: inte

Oh, I forgot

VOTE: Nobody Special

Nice OMGUS.

@inte - you're voting NS because he voted you?
slip, Pine? I'm borderline thinking about switching at the moment, actually.[/quote] I couldn't find what slip you are talking about. what slip?

I'm here

Why is there so much opposal to this red lynch

why are there only 2 votes on this mb wagon. usually when I see people buddy early they are guilty.

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Proceeding from that, BB has been continually playing effortlessly. I don't mean to say that he pwns with elegant simplicity, but that his reads are superficial and preanalytical. There isn't much put into them, though he'd like you to believe that there is. This pattern is my main reason for finding BB scummy.

Alright BB is scummier than mb. all his posts are very short and the only player he seems to really focus on is red.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: BBmolla

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And Another Thing...

Oh no you fucking didn't

Lol'd. Not sure what Red or you mean by this.

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oh and BB gave up didn't he? "when I flip town" post.

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@ crypto noraa is pretty much null mang.

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I'd rather lynch BB cus anyone who quits after having a wagon on them early is probably scum who feels they were cheated(like they got unlucky day 1 and didn't get a fair shot lol).

This is really, really bad. You see, mb53? THIS is opportunistic wagon hopping where timing is an actual argument.

Oh yup that's totally what I did.

This entire redFF wagon is scummy.

Really?

Really?

You think the

entire

redFF wagon is scummy?

When he flips scum, I'm parking my vote on you.

Anyways we need a lynch soon cus the deadline is in 3 days, so my 2nd pick would be Mogri because he is getting too defensive about the redwagon being called scummy(which he was on), or he is busing his buddy and knows the red is scum("when he flips scum, I'm parking my vote on you.") that would give him town cred and also get a free lynch when he referred back to his post the next day. So yeah 2nd pick Mogri.

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What excuse did I make for leaving the forum? Surely you aren't referring to my v/la...

this one, #65 "I'm probably failing for always being on my ipod in class.

I'm going to minimize you guys and try to work on my paper for a while."

so mb what's up?

Oh lol. I was telling them why I was gonna suddenly stop my part in the conversation. I've already addressed that shit several times so this should be the last!

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tech if there are neighbors I really doubt they can talk during the day. I think it's pre-game and night only.

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Well if I am not mistaken I heard BK scream deadline is soon, so we probably need to figure out what we are doing soon. How long until deadline exactly?

yeah because I screamed, fuck you with your misrep of me in all games together.

I'm thinking BBMolla is still the superior lynch. We shouldn't let Un's carapptack derail that wagon.

Idk how we went from BB/Mogri back to Red. He's one of my strongest town reads and that's a stupid lynch.

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btw I'm VLA till thursday mid-day.

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mogri cus hes scum, lets go

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I'd rather lynch BB cus anyone who quits after having a wagon on them early is probably scum who feels they were cheated(like they got unlucky day 1 and didn't get a fair shot lol).

This is really, really bad. You see, mb53? THIS is opportunistic wagon hopping where timing is an actual argument.

Oh yup that's totally what I did.

This entire redFF wagon is scummy.

Really?

Really?

You think the

entire

redFF wagon is scummy?

When he flips scum, I'm parking my vote on you.

Anyways we need a lynch soon cus the deadline is in 3 days, so my 2nd pick would be Mogri because he is getting too defensive about the redwagon being called scummy(which he was on), or he is busing his buddy and knows the red is scum("when he flips scum, I'm parking my vote on you.") that would give him town cred and also get a free lynch when he referred back to his post the next day. So yeah 2nd pick Mogri.

no u

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damn it I'm not a game show host

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if you want to see case building check out the end of Jungle 387 I replaced into.
this mogri stuff is a pretty damn good case for day 1, not to toot my own horn

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Mine are BBmolla, Mogri, and then NS cus he's probably the hardest to read.

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I share BK's hunch that Mogri is busing but I know mafiascum.net dudes are cocky as fuck about their scum hunting skills so I don't know.

If I'm busing, then you shouldn't mind lynching the guy I'm busing, since by definition...

I wouldn't mind if red was scummy. you're scummy, but even scummier if red is scum. sorry that its a damned if u do damned if u dont but ur damned.

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This game is nightlesss, so after this we're going straight to day 2 lol. Uber, I posted my freakin' "case" twice wtf do u want?

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who the hell can make a case day 1. you just have some good points, and I have some.

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you mad I'm posting bro?

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VOTE: Mogri 100% scum now, make it happen

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dood he is a member of RED's scum team. read the thread.

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you know I think I overestimated Mogri's bussing ability. I thought red was town and mogri was scum for making red his first vote and just kinda coasting with it after. but I also though if red was actually scum then mogri was blatantly busing him. and now he buses my other scummiest read on BB's slot, I think I see a trend xD

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I think NS is the hardest to read, and I don't like that so he's my third scummiest. though he is a good bit under BB/petapan and mogri. what he has posted has been "sparring jabs" as someone said earlier. He promised to change in his latest post though, so lets hope he changes.

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I knew it wouldn't do any god.

noraaaaaaaa, nightless does not necessarily mean no night kill.

I think it's safer to assume there is no nightkill; another reason I would be assuming there is none is because of the probable presence of multiple mafia groups, meaning if EODK's (end of day kills :p) were in effect, then wouldn't there be multiple EODK's? and if so, what is the likelihood that multiple mafia groups forgot to EODK?

NS recent postings have given me townreads. At this stage I would be more hesitant to lynch him. Mogri bandwagon is a go.

How quick was the red lynch? If it was submitted during the day then I don't see why they would wait till the very end to do it, since like NS said they could have been snuck up on and missed their chance.

anyways, if you're town vote mogri.

p.s. NS you're in too many games since you're behind in all the ones you were in with me.

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This is really, really bad. You see, mb53? THIS is opportunistic wagon hopping where timing is an actual argument.

Oh yup that's totally what I did.

This entire redFF wagon is scummy.

Really?

Really?

You think the

entire

redFF wagon is scummy?

When he flips scum, I'm parking my vote on you.

857 conf scum flailing. after this we should lynch NS or inti.
@Hiraki: NS is unreadable to me and I don't want that

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meant to add that it will be interesting to see if Mogri is on red's team or another. I think if he is on red's then he probably bussed either NS or inti.

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Well I would lynch Kassadin in any possible situation.

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Kassadin is a player who is unreadable (for me) every game. I don't like unreadable. That's all I'm gonna say.

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This is really, really bad. You see, mb53? THIS is opportunistic wagon hopping where timing is an actual argument.

Oh yup that's totally what I did.

This entire redFF wagon is scummy.

Really?

Really?

You think the

entire

redFF wagon is scummy?

When he flips scum, I'm parking my vote on you.

Do you mind actually saying what it is about this quote that you find suspect? Especially in light of the fact that red flipped scum? (I'll admit that I did forget to park my vote on MM! You'll have to excuse me there.)

This is a shining example of what I mean when I say that the wagon is incredibly lazy and that no one has bothered articulating a sensible argument.

I didn't know I still had that quoted. Gosh.

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Hiraki's contradiction is questionable but a couple others seem worse so, he's just going to have to walk on egg shells from now on.

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NS is lurking so...

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Preferably mogri, but I think a NS lynch would be the next best thing.

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Mogri is scum for; coasting on his first vote for a poor reason,(voting b/c of early game set-up speculation given a host's recent games, that is null) we just got lucky. I'm fine with voting NS tomorrow, but Mogri has to die today.

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God I don't care anymore.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: NobodySpecial

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I'm sorry to hear that...I have no idea how to deal with that

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there so much that bothers me about Kairyuu

like;

- most of his posts have been filler that doesn't really get a point across
- he obviously didn't read BBmollas explanation of the Amished tell quite well enough, the two stipulations are: they've never heard of the amished and its not part of their play style. he had to link 11 games to "disprove" the tell, rather than provide the 2 examples where it probably would of been sufficient enough to prove that it was part of his play. smells like overreaction to the fullest
- he didn't link to the posts with the ad hominem in them as i requested, but rather supplied sourceless quotes

yeah, VOTE: Kairyuu

I don't feel like making a case, but inte has been 1 of 3-4 players that are the scummiest, and this post was indeed "fucking scummy". VOTE: Inte

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VOTE: Mogri

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Well Red and Pine seem kind of scummy, especially Pine's posts. I don't see how if Red is scum, how that makes Pine probably scum though.

approx. 400 posts later, with no mention of a town read on redff in between:

Idk how we went from BB/Mogri back to Red. He's one of my strongest town reads and that's a stupid lynch.

explain your town read on redff.

I was a little suspicious of him at first, but he didn't come across as cautious at all.

@prod, sorry guys, been catching up on school

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This game's a mess to read. Part of the reason I pay more attention to smaller threads when I do have time.

Psyche lynch is a bad one, I know I havn't been very active, but Psyche is a decent town read at this point. I don't even see the case on him, not when there are players like pine and inti. Kayure had good points on inti, I don't see why they wouldn't still stand VOTE: inti

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I agree that psyche's "research" is a bit scummy, but inte and pine are overall scummier.

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@Psyche, Well I didn't know you think my play is always weird, but it's probably b/c I'm still have much to learn. Also I like your vote on Pine much more than myself, but what do you think of Inte?

P-edit, Pine is 1 of the 2 players I have scum reads on.

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In your study, most of the time it's town by town. I'm not scum and that's a terrible excuse to vote me. (your study)
Psyche has got to be scum if he ignored that. VOTE: Psyche

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does UN always play like this as town? if so just stay on psyche or myself.

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Guys just vote me. This isn't going anywhere anytime soon and I don't have much time for mafia currently. Just know I am probably right about one of the people I've said are scum.

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Impressive, Sir Peter.
So, this was my first scum game, any tips?

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I was surprised I lived till Day 5. Honestly I thought I was screwed after accusing Nora.

I lol'd at the 3 consecutive Red votes on RedFF.

/nominates Peta for scummy.

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I think both scum factions a 1-shot Day kill and giving Town a 2-shot Day cop could be cool. I think it ran great though.

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No Day Talk was rough on me, but I just started busing my whole team besides Red, since BBMolla set that trend by busing Red.

In other words I had no idea what to do so I just started busing everyone.

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I did end up busing BBMolla, but dropped it when Peta replaced him.

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UNVOTE: Vifam
VOTE: BBmolla

Oh shit, Hiraki sided with Vifam.

UNVOTE: BBmolla
VOTE: redFF

This is it, boyz. This is war

UNVOTE: redFF
VOTE: inte

Do better.

Matias, why?

UNVOTE: Major Minor
VOTE: BK201

Very early Crypto scared me by almost consecutively voting the entire Blue team.

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Where did you slip up?

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Honestly I think changing your avatar from the troll shades to the innocent cat helped.

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Nominated Petapan for Best Manipulation award for Scummies 2012.

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Hey BK can I somehow show support for this nomination, if that would help?

Yeah!
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=21324

No I just think your shades (original avatar you had when you replaced in, and are wearing post-game) give off the vibe that you arn't taking it seriously. The cat though, that cat is innocent townie mang.