NY 176: Completely Ridiculous Mafia (Game Over)

[Bicephalous Bob]

weren't you banned? twice?

VOTE: jimmy

[Bicephalous Bob]

that was directed at nero

VOTE: terms service of

post 50 is bleh

[Bicephalous Bob]

I actually read page 3 before page 2 and decided I'd vote you if no one had said anything scummier on page 2

the fact that it's a crossvote is a bonus though

[Bicephalous Bob]

rvs was over when the first post was made

Hey, hey, TWIE thought it was funny : (. I am a master humorsmith and I take offense to being called not funny. :P

you made the worst joke in ut's game

Oh god I am definitely going to forget who Bob is multiple times due to his drastic avatar change.

I am Bob!

[Bicephalous Bob]

oh and

VOTE: ap

[Bicephalous Bob]

please vote ap

Spoiler: worst joke

Lord god, lets focus on one scum at a time

Not sure if swearing....
or appealing to the player in this game.

; )

it reminded me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BMWYsrMGDI

[Bicephalous Bob]

In other game related posts.... *ugh*

I actually read page 3 before page 2 and decided I'd vote you if no one had said anything scummier on page 2

the fact that it's a crossvote is a bonus though

But you posted on page 2?

How did you read page 3 before page 2 if page 3 didnt exist when you first posted?

I meant the part of page 2 I didn't read, which was where he voted me

[Bicephalous Bob]

oh and

VOTE: ap

Why?

he ain't kickin' in the frontseat
he's sittin' in the backseat
he gotta make his mind up
which seat will he take?

[Bicephalous Bob]

I meant the part of page 2 I didn't read, which was where he voted me

What?

Which part of page 2 didnt you read?

Just the 1 post of his under yours where he voted?

yeah, the only post made by tso on page 2 and therefore the only relevant post in the original context

he ain't kickin' in the frontseat
he's sittin' in the backseat
he gotta make his mind up
which seat will he take?

I uh. Uh.

I was going to continue the joke, but Im not really sure where to go with it and I don't quite know how to respond to this seriously either. Please advise.

just say it's friday

[Bicephalous Bob]

ap did you forget you're voting aeronaut

(say that you're distracted because you're looking forward to the weekend weekend)

[Bicephalous Bob]

have we played together before

[Bicephalous Bob]

are you the sane head of twisted advice

[Bicephalous Bob]

aegor is probably town

[Bicephalous Bob]

are you the sane head of twisted advice

Yes.

boy do I feel clever

you don't have any scum meta on me, though

don't be like antihero in that game

[Bicephalous Bob]

you don't have any scum meta on me, though

Lynch this please and thanks.

you're welcome

[Bicephalous Bob]

I miss TIP

Why does this matter to you?

I was curious if I had played with any of them before.

@TSO
Objectively speaking what made Bob better then Cabd at the time you placed the vote?

Unvote
Vote: Bob

I'm not a big fan of coincidences, the fact that you just happened to vote the person who voted you after missing the post he voted you in is kind of hard to swallow.

I did see his vote, but I'd already decided to vote him when I saw it

it's not that spectacular

[Bicephalous Bob]

Yeah Bob, what the fuck.

You can't think of another reason to vote TSO in my hypothetical?

Don't be an asshole dude.

well maybe TSO shouldn't not invite me to his birthday party because he's jealous of my go-cart

and maybe you shouldn't act like you know exactly what's going on in your hypothetical

[Bicephalous Bob]

VOTE: jimmy

looking back on simpler times

[Bicephalous Bob]

Why the fuck are you trying to go back to RVS, bob?

I'm not

I didn't like his two posts and right now I prefer to vote an unstable scumread over a more solid nullscum read

[Bicephalous Bob]

Believe it or not I was actually serious when I asked you why you pretended your vote wasn't omgus.

OMGUS is when you vote someone for voting you

that's not what I did

[Bicephalous Bob]

An unstable read is more susceptible to change than a stable read

Still, if I had to guess one scum right now, I'd choose Jimmy

It's not always better

Mirhawk please give me a quote

[Bicephalous Bob]

VOTE: jimmy

looking back on simpler times

Why the fuck are you trying to go back to RVS, bob?

An unstable read is more susceptible to change than a stable read

Still, if I had to guess one scum right now, I'd choose Jimmy

It's not always better

Mirhawk please give me a quote

Then vote Jimmy.

We aren't "going back to simpler times".

how did you manage to quote the thing and fuck up the quote in the same post

that was directed at nero

I am NOT that other dick that went by Nero. And even if I was banned then so what?

I knew he was permanently site-banned twice

I never played with him so don't be too offended

FWIW, I honestly think that Bob sometimes opens books to random pages in order to choose his next sentence.

Baars (1988, p. 347) claimed that consciousness is "the jewel in the crown" of our cognitive processing system.

Also, I'm not sold on Cephrir town (Velmans, 2009).

[Bicephalous Bob]

Unvote

@Bob
What makes Jimmy worth voting over the other players who are being useless? I'm referring of course to Aegor, and MVP.

he's scummy

I'll try to put it into words once he made a few more posts

[Bicephalous Bob]

which one are you

[Bicephalous Bob]

that's not much of an accomplishment

[Bicephalous Bob]

Hey TSO. Do you still scream at people? Did my Jimmy vote actually seem like I wanted to go back to RVS or is Cabd scum and reinoe town?

[Bicephalous Bob]

reinoe town isn't even necessary in the second scenario

[Bicephalous Bob]

fuck

[Bicephalous Bob]

gm is it still possible to WotC reinoe

[Bicephalous Bob]

reinoe please bring me some mayonnaise

[Bicephalous Bob]

there's a good chance I want to policy lynch reinoe even when I don't scumread his slot anymore

the goal of WotC is to prevent this

I know this is a long shot and I completely understand it if gm doesn't want to re-replace a player who has already posted and go through the hassle of finding another replacement

[Bicephalous Bob]

I'll decide on that if gm says it's an option

[Bicephalous Bob]

which she probably won't so

[Bicephalous Bob]

Also what are your thoughts on TSO trying to push through a lynch on a soft-claimed cop? Do you think that's scummy or townie?

your predecessor already claimed doc

[Bicephalous Bob]

That's just him being scum, Bob.

@Aeronaught, Aegor, Mirhawk, TheWayItEnds, Toomai, BicephalousBob, Boonskiies, and CABD...

Does this remind you of my scumgame(s) that you've seen before?

I haven't seen your scumgame but I do know you're pretty bad at fakeclaiming

[Bicephalous Bob]

don't act like you haven't seen the breadcrumb

[Bicephalous Bob]

Spoiler:

Also what are your thoughts on TSO trying to push through a lynch on a soft-claimed cop? Do you think that's scummy or townie?

your predecessor already claimed doc

In which of these four posts is the doc claim???

vote Cabd

Never trust the moderator of your previous game.

Have I been banned twice? Cuz if so, no one bothered to tell me. That'd be impressive though, getting banned twice with only one game on site.

This is gold. I hope TWIE and T S O aren't scum because they're comedic geniuses and I don't want them lynched.

Aren't you, you know, voting TSO at the moment?

unvote

I hate to say this, but something really important just came up and I'm going to be unable to play for an indeterminate amount of time, so I'm replacing out. Sorry about this, I hope a replacement comes in soon. Gl hf to everyone.

don't act like you haven't seen the breadcrumb

There's no breadcrumb. If there was a breadcrumb you wouldn't be pointing it out because that's anti-town.


ebwop: with the added bonus of Bicephalous Bob voting a doctor if he believes that there was a breadcrumb. There wasn't, but if there was he should have unvoted.

Bicephalous Bob and TSO are both scum. Could the rest of the scum team out themselves please.

This game needs more trolling.

oh boy

[Bicephalous Bob]

you literally asked for it

[Bicephalous Bob]

reinoe why didn't you vote me over TSO in 303

[Bicephalous Bob]

I don't know if I'm allowed to link a post that's not in a game, or if I'm even supposed to talk about it. If the latter, Mod please delete this post.

you aren't allowed to link ongoing games

everything else is cool

[Bicephalous Bob]

reinoe wasn't concerned about rolefishing at all

would you give me much emotional consideration if I told you I no longer read you as scum but will keep my vote on you for the hell of it

[Bicephalous Bob]

it's not like he'd ever be nightkilled anyway.

Lol. Well I'm not going to argue about the effectiveness of his grand plan there, because you are right. His 'claim' was clearly a wifomy joke and I think town is more likely to be off in their own world doing shit like that because they think its a good idea or a way to get into the game.

I know for a fact that reinoe uses his town tidbits as scum which means that these kind of non-interactive posts are null

His vote on you looks rather explicitly like OMGUS, you didn't say that you were voting him because of the nature of his claim and he didn't imply that he thought you were. I mean his ISO is atrocious, I just think that level of beauty is more likely from town than scum :P.

uh

[Bicephalous Bob]

Spoiler:

(I also don't want to talk about what's bothering me about Bob so far because A) it's meta and B) I want to see how he develops naturally)

are you the sane head of twisted advice

Yes.

boy do I feel clever

you don't have any scum meta on me, though

don't be like antihero in that game

you don't have any scum meta on me, though

Lynch this please and thanks.

Just the total lack of you being town in the thread if I'm honest.

Have you played with me outside of that one other NY game where my scumteam imploded?

ap you are being a silly rabbit

[Bicephalous Bob]

Also, Aegor, we can't have two reinoes so it's time for you to start scumhunting! Aren't you excited? I know I am!

[Bicephalous Bob]

it's not like he'd ever be nightkilled anyway.

Lol. Well I'm not going to argue about the effectiveness of his grand plan there, because you are right. His 'claim' was clearly a wifomy joke and I think town is more likely to be off in their own world doing shit like that because they think its a good idea or a way to get into the game.

His vote on you looks rather explicitly like OMGUS, you didn't say that you were voting him because of the nature of his claim and he didn't imply that he thought you were. I mean his ISO is atrocious, I just think that level of beauty is more likely from town than scum :P.

Reinoe reminds me of Ika a lot.

I agree with you that I don't see the inherent scumminess that TSO does, but it is pretty irritating.

Also, your smilies. Can you bury them?

are you GIF?

in that case, I was in double day unlimited where you went completely nuts over being lynched while insisting your literally 100% wrong reads were amazing

you must remember that

also I'll catch up in a bit

[Bicephalous Bob]

I don't remember why I quoted that

[Bicephalous Bob]

"emotional consideration" should be "emotional response"

toomai voted aegor when aegor said he no longer read toomai as scum but wanted to push for his mislynch anyway

ap then called toomai scum for not giving aegor an emotional response

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mollie, what do you think of aegor, toomai and ap? Please don't discuss this with nero before answering. It will be pretty obvious if you do so.

[Bicephalous Bob]

(I was drowsy, cranky and a bit hungover at the time of writing that)

[Bicephalous Bob]

it's all fluff

[Bicephalous Bob]

reinoe claimed doctor

[Bicephalous Bob]

Has mollie given a reason for her lack of posting? Is she more active behind the scenes?

[Bicephalous Bob]

uhm

Has mollie given a reason for her lack of posting? Is she more active behind the scenes?

[Bicephalous Bob]

if it makes you more comfortable change mollie to "the second head"

[Bicephalous Bob]

Huh, I could've sworn there were, at some point, two distinct personalities posting from your slot.

[Bicephalous Bob]

toomai's most recent post is alright in the context of his ISO

aeronaut, twie and izzy were already townish

I'd like to keep aegor and kigi around for now

don't know about mvp

cephrir seems to be as inoffensive as possible

I don't like cabd's icky meta cases (The replacement case assumed jimmy still cared while he replaced out and the try-hard thing was based one game. The nero thing was extremely simplistic, ns also lurks as town.)

TSO isn't very townish but I would miss him if he were to be lynched

Mirhawk, AP, what do you think of Toomai's 681?

[Bicephalous Bob]

Huh, I could've sworn there were, at some point, two distinct personalities posting from your slot.

yes, we are a hydra. Their last post was the 16th.

TSO isn't very townish but I would miss him if he were to be lynched

Why would you miss a scummy useless slot?

1. at some point during the last seven days, I mean
2. hey he can't help it if he drew scum

[Bicephalous Bob]

1. I was just puzzled, stop being so defensive.
2. Forget about it.

[Bicephalous Bob]

not much

[Bicephalous Bob]

@bicephalous bob...
Whom are your top two scumreads?

{you, ap, aegor (I changed my mind about keeping him)} are my favorite lynch subjects

I don't really have a solid ranking of my scumreads, unfortunately

toomai's most recent post is alright in the context of his ISO

Explain.

he really seemed self-conscious about not being completely there and the subsequent forced attempt to contribute before he made the confession

it all flows rather naturally

Mirhawk, AP, what do you think of Toomai's 681?

Its a readslist that he won't even take full responsibility for. What am I supposed to see here? Null.

you're supposed to feel it

[Bicephalous Bob]

I would think that, given that these reads are nowhere near anyone else's, you'd have felt compelled to explain them at some point.

as I said, the people in that pool aren't exactly incredible scumreads as much as it'd-be-nice-if-these-people-disappeared reads, although there's a good chance that there's some scum in it

[Bicephalous Bob]

I would think that, given that these reads are nowhere near anyone else's, you'd have felt compelled to explain them at some point.

as I said, the people in that pool aren't exactly incredible scumreads as much as it'd-be-nice-if-these-people-disappeared reads, although there's a good chance that there's some scum in it

I'd still like it if you'd share with the class, I can't see your thought process unless you actually post it

it isn't easy to pinpoint why someone isn't useful to me since it's the lack of useful stuff that's bothering me

anyway, I don't really like that pool anymore

I don't think I'm really going to work off a lynch pool today anyway

Twie bob toomai aegor

That's the scumteam

Goodnight Los Angeles

What the fuck did you just literally posted my page 6 townreads and posted here as a scumread

You guys didn't post at all around page 6. Why did you only post behind the scenes? Why did you only give those reads behind the scenes? Do you really read Toomai as town? If so, have you discussed that read with the other heads? If so, how did that go?

[Bicephalous Bob]

I'd like gif to answer my questions (previous post in my iso) and a chance to reply before anyone tries to get a claim out of him

[Bicephalous Bob]

so in the long time your hydra has been voting toomai (all the time), have you tried convincing them of changing the vote? The others didn't seem very attached to their toomai vote.

[Bicephalous Bob]

I mean, before ns posted his scumteam

[Bicephalous Bob]

I didn't even realized that we were voting Toomai until just now.

how

[Bicephalous Bob]

I would say there is guaranteed scum in Toomai/MVP/DJ.

This is swell, I like it.

If I switch to MVP now can I have Toomai tomorrow?

why are you lining up lynches and using aegor's hyperbole as an excuse to vote MVP?

it's just three players with no useful connection except for the fact that they've all been wagoned

[Bicephalous Bob]

...by each other

[Bicephalous Bob]

so what was the obvious thing cabd was doing

[Bicephalous Bob]

mvp, does your role pm specify what roles have guns? more importantly, is it oddly specific about an uncommon role?

[Bicephalous Bob]

I don't have a dubious role and I wouldn't ask that question if I were investigation-immune scum

jesus christ

scum often make up complicated details about their fakeclaims if you pressure them about it

that's why I asked it right after mvp posted

also, gunsmith has an extensive normal definition and mvp could've been unaware of that

[Bicephalous Bob]

if they'd reacted defensive and asked something like what role do you mean, then probably

[Bicephalous Bob]

yes I didn't aim for one particular answer great catch

it's just a question scum could easily fuck up, that is the town motivation for asking it

what is the scum motivation

[Bicephalous Bob]

But then if he was a mafia doctor with possibly a daytalk (she had that in her last large normal too iirc), he probably would've asked to his scumbuddies.
I think he's more likely to be a serial killer.

you forgot traitor and self-jailkeeper

[Bicephalous Bob]

but the quality of people voting him, like MVP and Cephrir, who both are in my top 3 scumreads, makes it pretty obvious this wagon is bullshit.

Even though TSO is a leaning scumread of mine, I was starting to go crazy thinking that I was the only person who does wagon analysis on D1.

VOTE: Bicephalous Bob

WHAT IS THE SCUM MOTIVATION

[Bicephalous Bob]

reinoe, do you consider your scum meta to be consistent?

[Bicephalous Bob]

please answer the fucking question

[Bicephalous Bob]

he's probably trying to confirm the gs claim in the worst way possible

maybe the nrg said something about gunsmiths in mafia discussion

should've WotC'ed him

[Bicephalous Bob]

reinoe, do you consider your scum meta to be consistent?

I didn't really want to broach this subject because "self-meta", but since you asked...I always play the same way as scum. I occasionally play that way as town so that it doesn't become a reliable tell. This is wiki confirmable.

I find this to be a silly question and a silly answer. Self-meta indicates self-awareness. If you're self-aware of your scum meta

then you would know ways to avoid it to curb meta suspicions.

Apparently it's beyond players to evolve and adapt their scum meta though. :roll: Also: "Wiki confirmable"..? Please. Let me go write a wiki that implies my behavior should never be questioned, then I can self-meta too.

Bob, does reinoe's answer remove any possibility of him being scum? I don't see it being alignment-indicative.

It does help me get some perspective. I can buy that reinoe has never felt the need to change up his scumgame before. This would be a first-timer.

The reaction wasn't great IMO.

the push was atrocious

[Bicephalous Bob]

ki-gi's flake was really ugly, right when he was supposed to back up his trash talk about dj

VOTE: ki-gi

[Bicephalous Bob]

Why were you voting reinoe knowing you could get rid of him with your vig shot?

ki-gi's flake was really ugly, right when he was supposed to back up his trash talk about dj

VOTE: ki-gi

Flaking is not a scumtell and this push is really disingenuous.

Sweeping generalization!

[Bicephalous Bob]

DJ, what are your criteria for selecting your vig target?

Also, AP, if Ki-Gi talked himself in a corner when making those bold statements about dj and flaked as a result of that, which it seems to me he did, then that flaking is indicative of alignment.

[Bicephalous Bob]

I saw that too when dj linked it (which I thought was the reason why he linked it in the first place), but I just found out he did stop posting in all threads

UNVOTE:

Bob, what are your reads on Mir, Cephir, Toomai?

Mirhawk is probably (hopefully) town. I'm waffling on the rest. Toomai made one pretty cool post and a lot of slightly shitty ones. Cephrir stays at the surface all the time.

VOTE: Bob

First you say that you think we shouldn't vote. Then you ask us criteria. Well that is simple. Nero and I agree on a target.

:cool:

I didn't tell you to do anything. I think reinoe is a good vig target because him getting killed will have little influence on the game.

[Bicephalous Bob]

as in he doesn't have much to offer im tired

[Bicephalous Bob]

gm can we have a deadline extension since ki-gi should've been replaced by now

[Bicephalous Bob]

Mirhawk, I thought ki-gi abandoned just this game right after he seemingly realized he couldn't back up his accusations

do you really not see why that why that would be scummy?

anyway, if the replacement doesn't come in before deadline I'd prefer it if dj shot ki-gi's slot

[Bicephalous Bob]

VOTE: toomai

I checked my iso but I'm just not seeing it

[Bicephalous Bob]

gm can we have a deadline extension since ki-gi should've been replaced by now

:igmeou:

Do you think it's an unreasonable request? Why? There's a slot that hasn't said anything at all for a week.

[Bicephalous Bob]

@Bob
That's weak, why wait so late to bring this up?

He hadn't officially flaked before he was prodded and didn't respond. I was actually going to wait for the replacement since I don't like voting an empty slot, but the deadline gave me no choice.

[Bicephalous Bob]

I am really tempted to vote Bob, seeing that his latest series of posts runs the gamut of survival attempts.

is the confirmation that I'm not a jester all you need

[Bicephalous Bob]

titus why are you voting me

ika why did your predecessor flake

[Bicephalous Bob]

gm can we have a deadline extension since ki-gi should've been replaced by now

:igmeou:

Do you think it's an unreasonable request? Why? There's a slot that hasn't said anything at all for a week.

?

ika why did your predecessor flake

even after having some wine I know this question is complete shit.

igmeou if that's an abbreviation for ugh

[Bicephalous Bob]

VOTE: Cephir

This is a wagon of win. Cephir's latest post says gee Toonami is a mislynch so it shouldn't happen but I will vote at deadline anyway. Total fenceshitty non accountability shit.

Then misvig him.

I will be FUCKED before you derail my wagon on fucking obvious scum Bob though.

i feel bad for you already

Oh, wait, I can't read. Disregard, but I'm still a little confused why you'd encourage that.

Sorry, I love you. I'm just frustrated at the blackhole of uselesness that is Reinoe and TSO this game that is now sucking DJ into it. Plus I mean Bob is like really obvious scum and has been for about 10 pages now and needs to die.

"Can we get a DL extension!! Im getting deadline wagoned and I'd really rather shove a mislynch on one of the VIs some more!"

"Uh why are you asking for an extensin?"

"Well Kigi hasnt posted in like a week!!!!!!!"

You expect me to believe Bob gives a shit about that? LOOOOOOOL. Of course he doesn't and if you think hes doing something other than subtly rtrying to avoid getting DL lynched without saying it, you are falling for a scumploy.

do you think town me is supposed to be a fucking masochist who enjoys getting lynched for petty reasons because of the deadline? when did you expect town me to include the bit about me probably getting lynched if it weren't for the extension? when i was making the request that was completely justified? "hey gm here is a reasonable request for a deadline extension also I'm totally going to be lynched if you don't give me one give me one please please please"? how was that supposed to help town me?

and I do care about the lack of content from ki-gi's slot. you have provided absolutely no evidence to the contrary. you arbitrarily assign motivation. you are being terrible.

[Bicephalous Bob]

omg i glnaced back and titus is a vig?

damn it oh well. i want Bob lynch otherwise i want titus to vig her

im a he also why

how about this AP whos scum and whos town?

apparently your universal town so i need to see where i can ping stuff without iso and get borad as fuck doign so

please read my previous post in my iso just that one so you can see why you shouldnt listen to ap

[Bicephalous Bob]

oh god

[Bicephalous Bob]

I reread parts!

VOTE: mvp

But then if he was a mafia doctor with possibly a daytalk (she had that in her last large normal too iirc), he probably would've asked to his scumbuddies.
I think he's more likely to be a serial killer.

mvp is groupscum!

[Bicephalous Bob]

Yeah, probably, but so're you~

don't lie

[Bicephalous Bob]

that's a secret!

[Bicephalous Bob]

Yeah, probably, but so're you~

don't lie

actually you can hardly believe we're both groupscum after the post I quoted so please stop making this so easy for yourself

[Bicephalous Bob]

Because MVP's reasoning was "he can't be groupscum because..." followed by a lot of shit

Also ika might hammer me so please unvote

[Bicephalous Bob]

at least two scum on my wagon, probably three

vig mvp

[Bicephalous Bob]

yeah aegor is probably town

ika that hammer was really shitty but I did know you were going to do it!

im pretty clever

ceph is the best choice out of those three

at least vig someone on my wagn so i can be mean to them in the dead qt please

[Bicephalous Bob]

mir isnt voting me :(

mvp is superscummy and there has been a real wagon on him so you can pretend that was his lynch wagon

no loss of info

[Bicephalous Bob]

do you understand my groupscum argument dj

[Bicephalous Bob]

it is vital

[Bicephalous Bob]

mvp, does your role pm specify what roles have guns? more importantly, is it oddly specific about an uncommon role?

Does anybody think Bob is town?

Lets all stop for a minute and consider his post where he asks MVP if their role has oddly specific things in it. Then lets lynch him since hes probably a mafia doctor.

It did immediately spring to mind that that was almost certainly the role he was referring to.

Incidentally, that interaction has always been, and continues to be, weird as hell.

But then if he was a mafia doctor with possibly a daytalk (she had that in her last large normal too iirc), he probably would've asked to his scumbuddies.
I think he's more likely to be a serial killer.

the actual reason for thinking I'm a sk is really weak

for instance, sk is not "an oddly specific role", but to mvp it's the only other explanation for the question I asked because they're mafia themselves

a townie would never make that post or engage in that kind of speculation

[Bicephalous Bob]

no gif that's not it!

[Bicephalous Bob]

dj promise me you're going to vig mvp

[Bicephalous Bob]

twie is also town :(

[Bicephalous Bob]

My last post...

One of these people helped mislynched Five townies...

TSO

AP<----SCUM

CABD<----SCUM

you're the only player who was on every mislynch you could have possibly been on, including your own

TSO, what did you think happened to dj's kill when you voted izzy?