NY 176: Completely Ridiculous Mafia (Game Over)

[Aeronaut]

@Reinoe, if you had to choose one, who would you rather lynch, Aegor or Mirhawk, and why?

[GuyInFreezer]

Twie bob toomai aegor

That's the scumteam

Goodnight Los Angeles

What the fuck did you just literally posted my page 6 townreads and posted here as a scumread

[MVP]

Twie bob toomai aegor

That's the scumteam

Goodnight Los Angeles

What the fuck did you just literally posted my page 6 townreads and posted here as a scumread

Oops!

[MVP]

:>

ugh

[reinoe]

@Reinoe, if you had to choose one, who would you rather lynch, Aegor or Mirhawk, and why?

Ewwww that question. I'll mull this over tomorrow. I can't guarantee I'll answer.

[Toomai]

Is there any basis to the MVP wagon other than active lurking? I'm not seeing it.

[Aeronaut]

@Reinoe, if you had to choose one, who would you rather lynch, Aegor or Mirhawk, and why?

Ewwww that question. I'll mull this over tomorrow. I can't guarantee I'll answer.

Answer the question, or I'm going to assume you are avoiding it.

[goodmorning]

Fun fact: owls.

Votecount 1.25

MVP [L-3] - TheWayItEnds, Cabd, Cephrir, Depraved Justice, AngryPidgeon

Toomai [L-4] - MVP, Mirhawk, Aeronaut, Aegor

reinoe [L-5] - Bicephalous Bob, T S O, Toomai

T S O [L-6] - Ki-Gi, reinoe

Bicephalous Bob [L-7] - Izariael

Not Voting [0] -

With 15 alive, it takes

8

to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2014-08-30 21:00:00)

Some of MVP is V/LA a bit.
Aegor is LA til Friday.

[Izariael]

I'm still mulling my next move, but I know my current vote won't be of any use, so...

UNVOTE: Bicephalous Bob

[Depraved Justice]

Speaking of ignoring questions...Aero, pls explain why you are worried about Ki-gi sitting on TSO when you are town reading Ki-Gi?

[reinoe]

Spoiler: Drunk posting

guys i just took a dump while drinking a glass of wine, while reading shakespeare, while listening to Bach. I was so fucking classy I was oozing class. oozing class out of my poopchute. bach kinda sukks compared to mozart. baroque music isn't as good as traditional classical music anyway but wtfever

[Aeronaut]

Ki-gi seems town to me, but that's the one thing that seems less townish to me.

[Depraved Justice]

What is exactly less townish there? You think he's just bandwagon hopping?

[reinoe]

@Reinoe, if you had to choose one, who would you rather lynch, Aegor or Mirhawk, and why?

Ewwww that question. I'll mull this over tomorrow. I can't guarantee I'll answer.

Answer the question, or I'm going to assume you are avoiding it.

if i had to vote someone and it was me aegor and mirhawk in lylo i would vote mirhawk. mirhawk is always a nightkill target eventually and that's just because he's good but if he's scum he wouldn't slip up. aegor if he were scum he'd slip up eventually although I haven't played a ton of games with Aegor. If it came down to today being a wagon on aegor and a wagon on mirhawk and we could only lynch one though i would just fucking no-lynch because i learned my lesson on lynching townreads during deadline.

But right now I'm town reading both of them. I hope that answers your question. very hintly slightly lynch on mirhawk

[Aeronaut]

What is exactly less townish there? You think he's just bandwagon hopping?

I think it's possible.

[Ki-Gi]

I'm comfortable with my vote on T S O. I could change it to DJ but that's it. I don't think Toomai, MVP, or reinoe are scummy enough to lynch at this point. Toomai asks some weird questions, MVP lurked for a bit but isn't anymore, and reinoe trolls. None of them have done anything to indicate alignment, which I could understand being a scumtell by itself, but I have more confidence in T S O or DJ who I have witnessed actually being opportunistic and attempting to manipulate the town.

[Depraved Justice]

who I have witnessed actually being opportunistic and attempting to manipulate the town.

I'd ask you to back that up but when know that ain't going to happen.

[Ki-Gi]

who I have witnessed actually being opportunistic and attempting to manipulate the town.

I'd ask you to back that up but when know that ain't going to happen.

You could always click on your ISO.

[Cephrir]

Fuck your townread on me, Cephrir. It doesn't make any sense .

<3

Cephrir, I don't get your stance on this whatsoever, by the way.

I have a stance on this?

You were talking to both me and reinoe when I was arguing that when I said I was going to start posting content, reinoe's scumread on me for not immediately doing so was rubbish. Despite this, I never really felt your opinion was shared on the matter - but you seem to have posted it now.

My opinion is/was as follows:
-I thought you were a bit on the scum side before the whole fiasco, and that reinoe was meh.
-I now feel slightly better about you because <reasons>
-reinoe has not changed my opinion re: him basically being a troll
-...but his hovering over you and expecting you to accomplish anything in the meantime was unfair.

God, this backandforth is really tedious. I think Nero is town. This just feels like the exact sort of stuff I'd expect Nero to post.

Tell me more?

About Nero?

While I disagree with his posts about KiGi, it just makes sense in my head that Nero is pushing that. Its exactly the sort of thing I could see Nero giving a shit about as town. Gut? I don't really know how better to explain that. Ya its a bit OMGUSy, but that is sort of part of the picture. Nero wants to inject himself into the game, Nero sees what he perceives is someone throwing mud at him. Nero decides person is scum and attempts to get into the game by talking about them and defending himself. I realize I'm sort of creating a narrative that leads to the conclusion of Nero town, but that is what I see right now. Its not the strongest read ever, but I'm interested in leaving him alone for now.

Shit like "How is mollie supposed to post when she isn't in this hydra" makes me want to kill myself though.

I don't know how to tell Nero's alignment. I know a little bit about what he tends to do, and I think I tend to find his posts slightly more detail-oriented/nitpicky/generally not fun to read as town, but limited experience. I appreciate the attempt to explain.

no? I think Reinoe is clearly trolling and even if he's not then I don't really suspect him nor am I calling AP scum for answering a question/giving his two cents. (as you are implying) I only think he's scummy if Ki-Gi flips scum.

If your take away from my ki's convo is that I'm mad that he doesn't suspect AP then either I haven't done a good job of explaining why I suspect him or you are just flat out not reading and I'm going with door #2 here.

I also don't think I've been active lurking at all. I think I was inactive this game and then CABD lead the derpy charge that I was scummy for this and now everyone (including yourself) is piggybacking that argument.

You're door two option feels right for a reason. Mostly because I don't really care about what you and KI-Gi were talking about. My impression from that entire line of dialog was that you were pursuing a silly line of reasoning, and were trying very hard to make it look serious.

Your reaction to him not answering the question was also way out of proportion to the offense. I would have expected you to maybe ask him the question again, or ask if agreed with the other answer or something like that. Not go in all out attack mode and demand answers while simultaneously insinuating that it was scummy to allow others to "intrude" on your conversation.

I also don't like that you're distancing yourself from the lurking point. Calling it "Cabd's derpy change" is a soft discredit on what was a very valid point. You weren't posting, then you showed up to respond when you were mentioned. Claiming you hadn't read the game only makes this look worse as that makes it even less likely that you could just happen to notice the post you were mentioned in.

if this was how you felt why did you wait to post about it and not say this in 451?

I was feeling snarkier then I had been in 514. Also I had to go back and dig up that quote of you demanding that Ki-Gi had to be offended by someone else answering his question.

Reinoe vs TSO is town on town. They just don't like each other in general. It's who's on their wagons that I'm interested in. Lets take a look.

reinoe [L-5]

- Bicephalous Bob, T S O, Toomai

T S O [L-6]

- Ki-Gi, reinoe

Yea, I think it's time for a Toomai lynch. Ki-gi being there sort of worries me.

VOTE: Toomai

Why do you think it's town on town, and more importantly, why do you think everyone else should necessarily have arrived at the same conclusion? Seems like an arbitrary assumption.

but you were fine with folks breathing down my neck, So explain the difference?

The difference is that you could get a post in edgewise and weren't literally being called scum every ten minutes on the dot.

{you, ap, aegor (I changed my mind about keeping him)} are my favorite lynch subjects

I would think that, given that these reads are nowhere near anyone else's, you'd have felt compelled to explain them at some point.

@Cephir
How do you think someone should respond to 435?

Dunno what the point of this is, but I'd probably have given a one-word response, yes or no. Possibly with a joke thrown in. I say this without remembering how you responded.

Will any of these suspicions on me turn into votes? They are kind of bland right now.

My current lynchpool is {DJ, Toomai, Ki-Gi}

Opinion on MVP?

He can go, but after Toomai.


VOTE: Toomai

Did the self conscious post not strike a chord with you? I'm surprised that post is getting called null, I would really expect that bit to ping one way or the other, but this makes three people who've called it null I think. o.o

Cephrir is not only trying to have no opinion on anything, but he's pretty much flat out saying that that's what he's doing. Nobody seems to care though.

I gave a reads list. I therefore have opinions about most of the players. I'm simply choosing not to remind everyone of what those opinions are every time I post, and am playing in a somewhat hands-off manner.

[Cephrir]

Fuck quote tags. Another post slipped in there too, but if I was going to do something with it, I no longer recall what it was.

Fuck your townread on me, Cephrir. It doesn't make any sense .

<3

Cephrir, I don't get your stance on this whatsoever, by the way.

I have a stance on this?

You were talking to both me and reinoe when I was arguing that when I said I was going to start posting content, reinoe's scumread on me for not immediately doing so was rubbish. Despite this, I never really felt your opinion was shared on the matter - but you seem to have posted it now.

My opinion is/was as follows:
-I thought you were a bit on the scum side before the whole fiasco, and that reinoe was meh.
-I now feel slightly better about you because <reasons>
-reinoe has not changed my opinion re: him basically being a troll
-...but his hovering over you and expecting you to accomplish anything in the meantime was unfair.

God, this backandforth is really tedious. I think Nero is town. This just feels like the exact sort of stuff I'd expect Nero to post.

Tell me more?

About Nero?

While I disagree with his posts about KiGi, it just makes sense in my head that Nero is pushing that. Its exactly the sort of thing I could see Nero giving a shit about as town. Gut? I don't really know how better to explain that. Ya its a bit OMGUSy, but that is sort of part of the picture. Nero wants to inject himself into the game, Nero sees what he perceives is someone throwing mud at him. Nero decides person is scum and attempts to get into the game by talking about them and defending himself. I realize I'm sort of creating a narrative that leads to the conclusion of Nero town, but that is what I see right now. Its not the strongest read ever, but I'm interested in leaving him alone for now.

Shit like "How is mollie supposed to post when she isn't in this hydra" makes me want to kill myself though.

I don't know how to tell Nero's alignment. I know a little bit about what he tends to do, and I think I tend to find his posts slightly more detail-oriented/nitpicky/generally not fun to read as town, but limited experience. I appreciate the attempt to explain.

Reinoe vs TSO is town on town. They just don't like each other in general. It's who's on their wagons that I'm interested in. Lets take a look.

reinoe [L-5]

- Bicephalous Bob, T S O, Toomai

T S O [L-6]

- Ki-Gi, reinoe

Yea, I think it's time for a Toomai lynch. Ki-gi being there sort of worries me.

VOTE: Toomai

Why do you think it's town on town, and more importantly, why do you think everyone else should necessarily have arrived at the same conclusion? Seems like an arbitrary assumption.

but you were fine with folks breathing down my neck, So explain the difference?

The difference is that you could get a post in edgewise and weren't literally being called scum every ten minutes on the dot.

{you, ap, aegor (I changed my mind about keeping him)} are my favorite lynch subjects

I would think that, given that these reads are nowhere near anyone else's, you'd have felt compelled to explain them at some point.

@Cephir
How do you think someone should respond to 435?

Dunno what the point of this is, but I'd probably have given a one-word response, yes or no. Possibly with a joke thrown in. I say this without remembering how you responded.

Will any of these suspicions on me turn into votes? They are kind of bland right now.

My current lynchpool is {DJ, Toomai, Ki-Gi}

Opinion on MVP?

He can go, but after Toomai.


VOTE: Toomai

Did the self conscious post not strike a chord with you? I'm surprised that post is getting called null, I would really expect that bit to ping one way or the other, but this makes three people who've called it null I think. o.o

Cephrir is not only trying to have no opinion on anything, but he's pretty much flat out saying that that's what he's doing. Nobody seems to care though.

I gave a reads list. I therefore have opinions about most of the players. I'm simply choosing not to remind everyone of what those opinions are every time I post, and am playing in a somewhat hands-off manner.

[Bicephalous Bob]

I would think that, given that these reads are nowhere near anyone else's, you'd have felt compelled to explain them at some point.

as I said, the people in that pool aren't exactly incredible scumreads as much as it'd-be-nice-if-these-people-disappeared reads, although there's a good chance that there's some scum in it

[T S O]

who I have witnessed actually being opportunistic and attempting to manipulate the town.

I'd ask you to back that up but when know that ain't going to happen.

who I have witnessed actually being opportunistic and attempting to manipulate the town.

I'd ask you to back that up but when know that ain't going to happen.

You could always click on your ISO.

That's complete fucking trash; back up your statement or sit down.

[Cephrir]

I would think that, given that these reads are nowhere near anyone else's, you'd have felt compelled to explain them at some point.

as I said, the people in that pool aren't exactly incredible scumreads as much as it'd-be-nice-if-these-people-disappeared reads, although there's a good chance that there's some scum in it

I'd still like it if you'd share with the class, I can't see your thought process unless you actually post it

[AngryPidgeon]

I'm not sure I know what BEETLEJUICE is... (I've seen the movie once but it was over 15 years ago...) Based on the context, I'm led to believe it's when a lurking player suddenly appears when their name is spoken? In which case no, I don't think it's a tell.

Yes that is pretty much it. I believe it has its name because the character Beetlejuice would appear when his name was called? Its been ages since I've seen that movie/cartoon.

Aeronaut: Were you content with Reinoe's answer to your question? What do you make of it?

I don't know how to tell Nero's alignment. I know a little bit about what he tends to do, and I think I tend to find his posts slightly more detail-oriented/nitpicky/generally not fun to read as town, but limited experience. I appreciate the attempt to explain.

I think the only time I've ever actually seen Nero as scum was in that Mykonian cult game and he replaced out before I even replaced in...I think. I could be misremembering that. So I'm not totally sure what I'd look for in Nero scum, but I'm fairly content with what I've seen so far. It looks like town, it feels like Nero in general.

[AngryPidgeon]

TSO, I'm not trying to be snarky or anything but what did you expect from post 765? Honestly, I didn't have the giveadarn to do more than skim it loosely and it looks like you are just reiterating some IIoA about what Reinoe by quoting his entire iso and summarizing it. Did you honestly expect that post to sway people into voting Reinoe?