NY 189 - Flower Viewing Festival [~fin~]

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3391 (isolation #0) » Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:06 am

ALIVE

Sakura Hana
AxleGreaser
Spiffeh
Shazam
DrippingGoofball
Echo Echo

DEAD

16. MarioManiac4,

Vanilla Townie

, was lynched D1

5. BananaCucho,

Town Mason

, was killed N1

14. Slandaar,

Vanilla Townie

, was killed N1

7. tn5421,

Mafia Goon

, was lynched D2

10. I Am Innocent,

Town Gunsmith

, was killed N2

11. Flubbernugget,

Vanilla Townie

, was lynched D3

15. Shiro,

Town Flower Vendor

, was killed N3

18. Firebringer,

Mafia Goon

, was lynched D4

4. Vedith,

Town 2-shot Vigilante

, was killed N4

1. Bearbert D,

Vanilla Townie

, was lynched D5

3. Ricastle,

Town Mason

, was killed N5

19. Davsto,

Vanilla Townie

, was lynched D6

9. ika,

Town Mason

, was killed N6

Yikes! You guys only nailed two scums??? I am here with the scumputer.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3392 (isolation #1) » Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:10 am

i am setting up scumputer input, tn51424 got speedlynched, was this a cop guilty or something?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3397 (isolation #2) » Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:29 am

I Am Innocent

(7) -

Ricastle

,

Bearbert D

,

Vedith

, Sakura Hana, Spiffeh, Shiro,

BananaCucho

Davsto

(2) -

Slandaar

, AxleGreaser
Echo Echo (2) -

Davsto

,

Flubbernugget

Vedith

(2) -

MarioManiac4

,

tn5421

(1) -

DrippingGoofball

Spiffeh (1) -

Firebringer

AxleGreaser (1) - Echo Echo

Ricastle

(1) -

I Am Innocent

DrippingGoofball

(1) - Shazam

One of these is scum

Sakura Hana, Spiffeh, Shiro

Davsto

(7) -

BananaCucho

, Echo Echo, Sakura Hana,

Vedith

,

DrippingGoofball

,

I Am Innocent

,

Bearbert D

Vedith

(2) -

MarioManiac4

,

tn5421

MarioManiac4

(2) - Spiffeh,

Davsto

Echo Echo (1) -

Flubbernugget

I Am Innocent

(1) - AxleGreaser
Spiffeh (1) -

Firebringer

DrippingGoofball

(1) - Shazam

One of these is scum

Echo Echo, Sakura Hana

MarioManiac4

(10) -

Davsto

,

Slandaar

, Shiro, Sakura Hana,

BananaCucho

, Shazam,

Vedith

,

Ricastle

, Spiffeh,

Bearbert D

Davsto

(4) - Echo Echo,

DrippingGoofball

,

I Am Innocent

,

MarioManiac4

I Am Innocent

(2) - AxleGreaser,

Flubbernugget

Vedith

(1) -

tn5421

Spiffeh (1) -

Firebringer

One of these is scum

Sakura Hana, Spiffeh, Shiro, Shazam

tn5421

(9) - Echo Echo, Spiffeh,

Vedith

,

Davsto

, Shazam,

Ricastle

, Sakura Hana,

Bearbert D

,

ika

Davsto

(1) - AxleGreaser

I Am Innocent

(1) -

tn5421

Spiffeh (1) -

I Am Innocent

Flubbernugget

(1) - Shiro

One of these is scum

Sakura Hana, Spiffeh, Echo Echo, Shazam

Flubbernugget

(8) - Echo Echo,

Vedith

, Sakura Hana, Shiro,

DrippingGoofball

,

Davsto

,

Bearbert D

, Spiffeh

Firebringer

(2) -

Ricastle

, AxleGreaser

One of these is scum

Sakura Hana, Spiffeh, Echo Echo, Shiro

Bearbert D

(4) -

Firebringer

, Echo Echo, AxleGreaser,

DrippingGoofball

Firebringer

(4) - Shazam, Sakura Hana,

Bearbert D

,

Vedith

DrippingGoofball

(1) -

Ricastle

One of these is scum

Axlegreaser, Echo Echo

Bearbert D

(5) -

Firebringer

,

Davsto

,

Vedith

,

DrippingGoofball

, Sakura Hana

DrippingGoofball

(2) - Shazam, AxleGreaser

Davsto

(2) -

Bearbert D

, Echo Echo
Shazam (1) -

Ricastle

One of these is scum

Sakura Hana

Firebringer

(7) - Sakura Hana, AxleGreaser,

Davsto

,

Ricastle

,

Bearbert D

,

Vedith

,

DrippingGoofball

Bearbert D

(1) -

Firebringer

DrippingGoofball

(1) - Shazam

Davsto

(1) - Echo Echo

One of these is scum

Sakura Hana, Axlegreaser

DrippingGoofball

(4) - AxleGreaser,

DrippingGoofball

,

Ricastle

, Shazam

Bearbert D

(1) -

Davsto

(1) -

Bearbert D

One of these is scum

Shazam, Axlegreaser

Bearbert D

(6) - Echo Echo, Spiffeh,

DrippingGoofball

,

Davsto

, Shazam,

Ricastle

DrippingGoofball

(2) - AxleGreaser, Sakura Hana
Shazam (2) -

ika

,

Bearbert D

One of these is scum

Echo Echo, Spiffeh, Shazam

Davsto

(5) -

ika

, AxleGreaser, Spiffeh, Sakura Hana,

Davsto

ika

(2) - Shazam, Echo Echo

One of these is scum

AxleGreaser, Spiffef, Sakura Hana

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3398 (isolation #3) » Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:30 am

In post 3395, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 3392, DrippingGoofball wrote:i am setting up scumputer input, tn51424 got speedlynched, was this a cop guilty or something?

There was a track guilty (mine) on Firebringer.
There was a case on tn.

Why are you still alive?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3399 (isolation #4) » Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:31 am

In post 3396, Sakura Hana wrote:There was also an ika mason counterclaim to Echo yesterday, but ika never pursued echo since ika was townreading echo.

How the hell did you turkeys end up lynching a Mason, with a dead mason already? And what is this counterclaim business?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3401 (isolation #5) » Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:33 am

There is a very aggressive, virtually non-bus'ing scumteam at work in this game.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3402 (isolation #6) » Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:33 am

In post 3400, Sakura Hana wrote:Probably because claimed masons are dying?
That's a good point tho, if scum had shot me i wouldn't have died anyway, which is why i didnt want to reveal this beforehand.

What, what and what???

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3404 (isolation #7) » Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:40 am

I don't see a missing kill. I have a hard time believing that you have a passive BP mixed in with two active abilities. Claim all your targets now. It's Day 7. You have 6 nights to account for.

From most suspicious to least

9 Sakura Hana

8

+ bus'ed by Firebringer

Spiffeh

5 Echo
5 Shazam
4 Shiro
4 Axle

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3405 (isolation #8) » Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:47 am

We have TWO DEAD GOONS.

The remaining scum has powerz.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3410 (isolation #9) » Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:30 am

In post 3406, Sakura Hana wrote:That's actually all my abilities.
I said if i was shot i wouldn't have died, so obviously scum hasn't been shooting me.
This is why I was worried that Sala might have shot me before.

Do you have to activate the 1-shot BP?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3413 (isolation #10) » Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:32 am

In post 3403, Sakura Hana wrote:All of the people that have died after my claim have claimed Masons in the thread.
One of my JOAT abilities is 1-shot BP, i've also claimed a 1-shot Track (Night 3 > firebringer towards shiro) and 1-shot RB (Night 4 on Shazam)

If you have 3 abilities, why did you use 2 of them them on nights

3 & 4

??????

DrippingGoofball · Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:30 am

In post 3414, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 3413, DrippingGoofball wrote:If you have 3 abilities, why did you use 2 of them them on nights 3 & 4??????

Look at the abilities i have.
They both me require to target the scum making the kill.
There's a crapton of players and i didn't want to risk it on the first nights to come empty handed.

No, you could have targeted a townie making an action, too.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3441 (isolation #12) » Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:10 pm

AxleGreaser is town.

WHAT IF ONE OF THE SAKURA HANA JOAT SCUM POWERS IS A 1-SHOT DOCTOR???

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3442 (isolation #13) » Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:14 pm

In post 3440, AxleGreaser wrote:Surely according to your assumptions once you find enough scum on a wagon then any unflipped people look townier not scummier.

There tends to be more scum on wagons than expected by chance.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3443 (isolation #14) » Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:17 pm

I really want to lynch Sakura Hana.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3452 (isolation #15) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:46 am

In post 3444, AxleGreaser wrote:If Sakura hana is scum. What would make you think she told any part of the truth about her role? especially the tracker part?

All the town roles are distributed rather thinly. This JOAT is a bit thicker. I am very concerned with the combination of at least 2 powers (not used on days 1 & 2) and a passive 1-shot BP. That reeks of scum role.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3453 (isolation #16) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:48 am

In post 3445, AxleGreaser wrote:And so you are speculating there is an apriori assumption of 50% scum on that wagon?

Don't look at one wagon. Look at all of them. Sakura Hana is really scummy.

This scumteam is very aggressive against townies and does not bus. They are very controlled. That's why I think faking a guilty on one of them with the objective of making one player invincible would work for such a team.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3454 (isolation #17) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:49 am

In post 3446, AxleGreaser wrote:But as scum really might feel compelled to kill her and solve that for us.

They haven't! Why would they? Especially if SH is scum. They'll never kill her.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3455 (isolation #18) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:51 am

In post 3447, AxleGreaser wrote:That wagon has counter wagon on scum, you have looked at your own PM, so it looks to me like you ought be weighting Echo echo pretty heavily as scum for that vote.

Indeed I find EchoEcho to be another great scum candidate.

Thanks for your input on the scumputer, BTW, I wish people did that all the time.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3456 (isolation #19) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:52 am

In post 3447, AxleGreaser wrote:and how did you reach that conclusion?

Your behavior today.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3457 (isolation #20) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:54 am

In post 3451, Sakura Hana wrote:Huh interesting, i've had 3 games where DGB replaced in (on one i was already dead), and i didn't see her use VCA, nevermind then.

LOL I invented it!

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3467 (isolation #21) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:46 am

In post 3461, Sakura Hana wrote:So
1) Why should i trust your VCA, when according to your VCA im the most likely scum candidate and I know i'm town.
2) Assume i'm town how does said VCA look
3) There's 2 scum left (i highly doubt there's a 3 person scumteam here) and we have no mislynches left unless scum shoots me (which they likely wont now), we can't afford to be wrong.
4) Why should i trust that you're town.

The YOU look at it. What do YOU see?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3476 (isolation #22) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:52 am

In post 3397, DrippingGoofball wrote:
I Am Innocent
(7) -
Ricastle
,
Bearbert D
,
Vedith
, Sakura Hana, Spiffeh, Shiro,
BananaCucho

Davsto
(2) -
Slandaar
, AxleGreaser
Echo Echo (2) -
Davsto
,
Flubbernugget

Vedith
(2) -
MarioManiac4
,
tn5421

tn5421
(1) -
DrippingGoofball

Spiffeh (1) -
Firebringer

AxleGreaser (1) - Echo Echo

Ricastle
(1) -
I Am Innocent

DrippingGoofball
(1) - Shazam

One of these is scum
Sakura Hana, Spiffeh, Shiro

Davsto
(7) -
BananaCucho
, Echo Echo, Sakura Hana,
Vedith
,
DrippingGoofball
,
I Am Innocent
,
Bearbert D

Vedith
(2) -
MarioManiac4
,
tn5421

MarioManiac4
(2) - Spiffeh,
Davsto

Echo Echo (1) -
Flubbernugget

I Am Innocent
(1) - AxleGreaser
Spiffeh (1) -
Firebringer

DrippingGoofball
(1) - Shazam

One of these is scum
Echo Echo, Sakura Hana

MarioManiac4
(10) -
Davsto
,
Slandaar
, Shiro, Sakura Hana,
BananaCucho
, Shazam,
Vedith
,
Ricastle
, Spiffeh,
Bearbert D

Davsto
(4) - Echo Echo,
DrippingGoofball
,
I Am Innocent
,
MarioManiac4

I Am Innocent
(2) - AxleGreaser,
Flubbernugget

Vedith
(1) -
tn5421

Spiffeh (1) -
Firebringer

One of these is scum
Sakura Hana, Spiffeh, Shiro, Shazam

tn5421
(9) - Echo Echo, Spiffeh,
Vedith
,
Davsto
, Shazam,
Ricastle
, Sakura Hana,
Bearbert D
,
ika

Davsto
(1) - AxleGreaser

I Am Innocent
(1) -
tn5421

Spiffeh (1) -
I Am Innocent

Flubbernugget
(1) - Shiro

One of these is scum
Sakura Hana, Spiffeh, Echo Echo, Shazam

Flubbernugget
(8) - Echo Echo,
Vedith
, Sakura Hana, Shiro,
DrippingGoofball
,
Davsto
,
Bearbert D
, Spiffeh

Firebringer
(2) -
Ricastle
, AxleGreaser

One of these is scum
Sakura Hana, Spiffeh, Echo Echo, Shiro

Bearbert D
(4) -
Firebringer
, Echo Echo, AxleGreaser,
DrippingGoofball

Firebringer
(4) - Shazam, Sakura Hana,
Bearbert D
,
Vedith

DrippingGoofball
(1) -
Ricastle

One of these is scum
Axlegreaser, Echo Echo

Bearbert D
(5) -
Firebringer
,
Davsto
,
Vedith
,
DrippingGoofball
, Sakura Hana

DrippingGoofball
(2) - Shazam, AxleGreaser

Davsto
(2) -
Bearbert D
, Echo Echo
Shazam (1) -
Ricastle

One of these is scum
Sakura Hana

Firebringer
(7) - Sakura Hana, AxleGreaser,
Davsto
,
Ricastle
,
Bearbert D
,
Vedith
,
DrippingGoofball

Bearbert D
(1) -
Firebringer

DrippingGoofball
(1) - Shazam

Davsto
(1) - Echo Echo

One of these is scum
Sakura Hana, Axlegreaser

DrippingGoofball
(4) - AxleGreaser,
DrippingGoofball
,
Ricastle
, Shazam

Bearbert D
(1) -
Davsto

Davsto
(1) -
Bearbert D

One of these is scum
Shazam, Axlegreaser

Bearbert D
(6) - Echo Echo, Spiffeh,
DrippingGoofball
,
Davsto
, Shazam,
Ricastle

DrippingGoofball
(2) - AxleGreaser, Sakura Hana
Shazam (2) -
ika
,
Bearbert D

One of these is scum
Echo Echo, Spiffeh, Shazam

Davsto
(5) -
ika
, AxleGreaser, Spiffeh, Sakura Hana,
Davsto

ika
(2) - Shazam, Echo Echo

One of these is scum
AxleGreaser, Spiffef, Sakura Hana

I don't see a lot of scum voting for scum so far. Do you?

Why isn't there more suspicion on Spiffeh?

Look at the first Davsto wagon. One of Echo or Sakura HAS to be scum. These two should be voting each other.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3479 (isolation #23) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:54 am

WITH SHIRO IN BLUE

I Am Innocent

(7) -

Ricastle

,

Bearbert D

,

Vedith

, Sakura Hana, Spiffeh,

Shiro

,

BananaCucho

Davsto

(2) -

Slandaar

, AxleGreaser
Echo Echo (2) -

Davsto

,

Flubbernugget

Vedith

(2) -

MarioManiac4

,

tn5421

(1) -

DrippingGoofball

Spiffeh (1) -

Firebringer

AxleGreaser (1) - Echo Echo

Ricastle

(1) -

I Am Innocent

DrippingGoofball

(1) - Shazam

One of these is scum

Sakura Hana, Spiffeh,

Shiro

Davsto

(7) -

BananaCucho

, Echo Echo, Sakura Hana,

Vedith

,

DrippingGoofball

,

I Am Innocent

,

Bearbert D

Vedith

(2) -

MarioManiac4

,

tn5421

MarioManiac4

(2) - Spiffeh,

Davsto

Echo Echo (1) -

Flubbernugget

I Am Innocent

(1) - AxleGreaser
Spiffeh (1) -

Firebringer

DrippingGoofball

(1) - Shazam

One of these is scum

Echo Echo, Sakura Hana

MarioManiac4

(10) -

Davsto

,

Slandaar

,

Shiro

, Sakura Hana,

BananaCucho

, Shazam,

Vedith

,

Ricastle

, Spiffeh,

Bearbert D

Davsto

(4) - Echo Echo,

DrippingGoofball

,

I Am Innocent

,

MarioManiac4

I Am Innocent

(2) - AxleGreaser,

Flubbernugget

Vedith

(1) -

tn5421

Spiffeh (1) -

Firebringer

One of these is scum

Sakura Hana, Spiffeh,

Shiro

, Shazam

tn5421

(9) - Echo Echo, Spiffeh,

Vedith

,

Davsto

, Shazam,

Ricastle

, Sakura Hana,

Bearbert D

,

ika

Davsto

(1) - AxleGreaser

I Am Innocent

(1) -

tn5421

Spiffeh (1) -

I Am Innocent

Flubbernugget

(1) -

Shiro

One of these is scum

Sakura Hana, Spiffeh, Echo Echo, Shazam

Flubbernugget

(8) - Echo Echo,

Vedith

, Sakura Hana,

Shiro

,

DrippingGoofball

,

Davsto

,

Bearbert D

, Spiffeh

Firebringer

(2) -

Ricastle

, AxleGreaser

One of these is scum

Sakura Hana, Spiffeh, Echo Echo,

Shiro

Bearbert D

(4) -

Firebringer

, Echo Echo, AxleGreaser,

DrippingGoofball

Firebringer

(4) - Shazam, Sakura Hana,

Bearbert D

,

Vedith

DrippingGoofball

(1) -

Ricastle

One of these is scum

Axlegreaser, Echo Echo

Bearbert D

(5) -

Firebringer

,

Davsto

,

Vedith

,

DrippingGoofball

, Sakura Hana

DrippingGoofball

(2) - Shazam, AxleGreaser

Davsto

(2) -

Bearbert D

, Echo Echo
Shazam (1) -

Ricastle

One of these is scum

Sakura Hana

Firebringer

(7) - Sakura Hana, AxleGreaser,

Davsto

,

Ricastle

,

Bearbert D

,

Vedith

,

DrippingGoofball

Bearbert D

(1) -

Firebringer

DrippingGoofball

(1) - Shazam

Davsto

(1) - Echo Echo

One of these is scum

Sakura Hana, Axlegreaser

DrippingGoofball

(4) - AxleGreaser,

DrippingGoofball

,

Ricastle

, Shazam

Bearbert D

(1) -

Davsto

(1) -

Bearbert D

One of these is scum

Shazam, Axlegreaser

Bearbert D

(6) - Echo Echo, Spiffeh,

DrippingGoofball

,

Davsto

, Shazam,

Ricastle

DrippingGoofball

(2) - AxleGreaser, Sakura Hana
Shazam (2) -

ika

,

Bearbert D

One of these is scum

Echo Echo, Spiffeh, Shazam

Davsto

(5) -

ika

, AxleGreaser, Spiffeh, Sakura Hana,

Davsto

ika

(2) - Shazam, Echo Echo

One of these is scum

AxleGreaser, Spiffef, Sakura Hana

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3486 (isolation #24) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:57 am

In post 3469, Echo Echo wrote:DGB, could you help me by critiquing my mistakes in my previous VCA attempts? I realize that if Sakura is indeed scum, then the fundamental assumption that I used in my VCA was wrong.

Nothing wrong with it, I had two more flips than you, but you do add more relevant play components, which I have not.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3491 (isolation #25) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:00 am

In post 3485, Spiffeh wrote:I think her bussing Firebringer is entirely plausible.

This sort of scum strategy is rarely employed on this site, but I have seen it used more frequently on other mafia sites.

Seeing so little scum bus'ing in the vote counts leads me to believe that we may be dealing with a somewhat unconventional scumteam. So far the town has not fared well at all.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3493 (isolation #26) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:01 am

In post 3487, AxleGreaser wrote:When you color in posiible scum team as I did in 3478.

Yeah but you put me in red, and I happen to know that I am town, so I pay no heed to that particular theory. I do appreciate your input just the same though.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3495 (isolation #27) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:04 am

In post 3492, Spiffeh wrote:Also Shazam has been really quiet today, his only post so far casting suspicion onto Echo which seemed like the only plausible mislynch at the time.

@Sakura please explain why you hopped on a wagon with your confirmed guilty on it.

And what do you think about a JOAT with a passive, 1-shot BP ability? Does this make sense as town or scum role?

What about the fact that she did not use her abilities early in the game?

What if she has abilities that aren't townie that she used on those days that she didn't use the pro-town sounding abilities?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3501 (isolation #28) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:11 am

In post 3494, Echo Echo wrote:
In post 3493, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3487, AxleGreaser wrote:When you color in posiible scum team as I did in 3478.

Yeah but you put me in red, and I happen to know that I am town, so I pay no heed to that particular theory. I do appreciate your input just the same though.

I would like it if you could critique Axle's theory based on his perspective, as you seem to be doing to Sakura.

I think it's quite correct, actually, from his perspective.

To quibble, the 4-person BearbertD wagon seems to go against the theory of scum Echo+DGB.

Also, if he is going to do it ass-backwards, then he should do it ass-backwards with all possible scum combos, ans see what fits best. That's if we want to be closer to science and further from voodoo. I'd be very interested in seeing that.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3505 (isolation #29) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:12 am

In post 3485, Spiffeh wrote:I find it very hard to believe that she gives up a confirmed guilty to sheep Salamence.

THAT

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3510 (isolation #30) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:14 am

In post 3506, AxleGreaser wrote:If you want me to believe in your VCA you will need to colour in a scum team.

I am not ready to do that right now, I am replacing in and I haven't read the thread.

I am hoping to see who feels town to help me narrow things down.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3519 (isolation #31) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:19 am

I Am Innocent

(7) -

Ricastle

,

Bearbert D

,

Vedith

,

Sakura Hana

,

Spiffeh

,

Shiro

,

BananaCucho

Davsto

(2) -

Slandaar

,

AxleGreaser

Echo Echo

(2) -

Davsto

,

Flubbernugget

Vedith

(2) -

MarioManiac4

,

tn5421

(1) -

DrippingGoofball

Spiffeh

(1) -

Firebringer

AxleGreaser

(1) -

Echo Echo

Ricastle

(1) -

I Am Innocent

DrippingGoofball

(1) -

Shazam

One of these is scum

Sakura Hana

,

Spiffeh

,

Shiro

Davsto

(7) -

BananaCucho

,

Echo Echo

,

Sakura Hana

,

Vedith

,

DrippingGoofball

,

I Am Innocent

,

Bearbert D

Vedith

(2) -

MarioManiac4

,

tn5421

MarioManiac4

(2) -

Spiffeh

,

Davsto

Echo Echo

(1) -

Flubbernugget

I Am Innocent

(1) -

AxleGreaser

Spiffeh

(1) -

Firebringer

DrippingGoofball

(1) -

Shazam

One of these is scum

Echo Echo

,

Sakura Hana

MarioManiac4

(10) -

Davsto

,

Slandaar

,

Shiro

,

Sakura Hana

,

BananaCucho

,

Shazam

,

Vedith

,

Ricastle

,

Spiffeh

,

Bearbert D

Davsto

(4) -

Echo Echo

,

DrippingGoofball

,

I Am Innocent

,

MarioManiac4

I Am Innocent

(2) -

AxleGreaser

,

Flubbernugget

Vedith

(1) -

tn5421

Spiffeh

(1) -

Firebringer

One of these is scum

Sakura Hana

,

Spiffeh

,

Shiro

,

Shazam

tn5421

(9) -

Echo Echo

,

Spiffeh

,

Vedith

,

Davsto

,

Shazam

,

Ricastle

,

Sakura Hana

,

Bearbert D

,

ika

Davsto

(1) -

AxleGreaser

I Am Innocent

(1) -

tn5421

Spiffeh

(1) -

I Am Innocent

Flubbernugget

(1) -

Shiro

One of these is scum

Sakura Hana

,

Spiffeh

,

Echo Echo

,

Shazam

Flubbernugget

(8) -

Echo Echo

,

Vedith

,

Sakura Hana

,

Shiro

,

DrippingGoofball

,

Davsto

,

Bearbert D

,

Spiffeh

Firebringer

(2) -

Ricastle

,

AxleGreaser

One of these is scum

Sakura Hana

,

Spiffeh

,

Echo Echo

,

Shiro

Bearbert D

(4) -

Firebringer

,

Echo Echo

,

AxleGreaser

,

DrippingGoofball

Firebringer

(4) -

Shazam

,

Sakura Hana

,

Bearbert D

,

Vedith

DrippingGoofball

(1) -

Ricastle

One of these is scum

AxleGreaser

,

Echo Echo

Bearbert D

(5) -

Firebringer

,

Davsto

,

Vedith

,

DrippingGoofball

,

Sakura Hana

DrippingGoofball

(2) -

Shazam

,

AxleGreaser

Davsto

(2) -

Bearbert D

,

Echo Echo

Shazam

(1) -

Ricastle

One of these is scum

Sakura Hana

Firebringer

(7) -

Sakura Hana

,

AxleGreaser

,

Davsto

,

Ricastle

,

Bearbert D

,

Vedith

,

DrippingGoofball

Bearbert D

(1) -

Firebringer

DrippingGoofball

(1) -

Shazam

Davsto

(1) -

Echo Echo

One of these is scum

Sakura Hana

,

AxleGreaser

DrippingGoofball

(4) -

AxleGreaser

,

DrippingGoofball

,

Ricastle

,

Shazam

Bearbert D

(1) -

Davsto

(1) -

Bearbert D

One of these is scum

Shazam

,

AxleGreaser

Bearbert D

(6) -

Echo Echo

,

Spiffeh

,

DrippingGoofball

,

Davsto

,

Shazam

,

Ricastle

DrippingGoofball

(2) -

AxleGreaser

,

Sakura Hana

Shazam

(2) -

ika

,

Bearbert D

One of these is scum

Echo Echo

,

Spiffeh

,

Shazam

Davsto

(5) -

ika

,

AxleGreaser

,

Spiffeh

,

Sakura Hana

,

Davsto

ika

(2) -

Shazam

,

Echo Echo

One of these is scum

AxleGreaser

, Spiffef,

Sakura Hana

That can help me visualize scumteams

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3523 (isolation #32) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:21 am

Most of the wagons are on town, that's why I am not seeing a lot of bus'ing.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3525 (isolation #33) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:23 am

In post 3513, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 3495, DrippingGoofball wrote:And what do you think about a JOAT with a passive, 1-shot BP ability? Does this make sense as town or scum role?

I kind of like it as town role. I dont know whether it has historically been used.

Straight kills all fgoing thorugh by vig and scum wind up at LYLO.
Scum if they make save put us at MYLO, if they hit the BP that gets us back a mislynch.
The 1 shot BP. Gives town some confidence to hold of on making their tracks and stuff, until they have better idea than a D1 shot in the dark.

But you the scum has some kind of powers... there is a wide variety of town roles... a JOAT is the perfect counterpoint.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3527 (isolation #34) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:28 am

Looking at possible scum teams isn't helping, I cannot find any pair that I would categorically disallow.

I am a bit less sure about Axletown than I was coming in, but my mind is still open.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3528 (isolation #35) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:29 am

In post 3526, Sakura Hana wrote:Scum def. has at the very least a doctor.
I doubt sala was lying about shooting Fire, and fire didnt flip bulletproof.

When did you use your 1-shot doctor?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3532 (isolation #36) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:35 am

Against 3 masons? That's really powerful. You guys lynched masons, right???

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3535 (isolation #37) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:36 am

In post 3530, AxleGreaser wrote:There were 3 masons, a flower vendor and two shot vig.

AND a gunsmith >>> which kinda goes against the vig.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3536 (isolation #38) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:37 am

In post 3534, Spiffeh wrote:No they were all nightkilled.

The first one was vigged.

thanks

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3541 (isolation #39) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:52 am

I am spontaneous like that.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3542 (isolation #40) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:53 am

See, the scum has fewer members than town.

You can distribute a variety of powers among the townies, giving them each ONE power.

To give the scum a variety of tools, you give them a JOAT. With a BP!!!

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3548 (isolation #41) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:11 am

In post 3545, Sakura Hana wrote:Meanwhile, town has no flipped or claimed protection, either in the form of a doc or another BP (which would cc mine), the only one was pisskop but it was a fake claim and he already flipped.
Do you seriously believe that town has a single (but limited) killing role and on top of that scum also can kill town, and town has no other way of protection?

Yeah, that's a good point.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3550 (isolation #42) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:12 am

In post 3547, AxleGreaser wrote:His algorithm is ALSO meant to subtract of the background random rate at which random people would flip scum ( " (VAR H * 100) - (VAR B * 100) ")

I was too lazy for this level of complication. I just winged it.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3551 (isolation #43) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:13 am

In post 3547, AxleGreaser wrote:magic with numbers can make sakura look scummy, BUT there is nothing VCA like that is significantly wrong with the scum team of
Echo Echo and DrippignGoofBall.

I strongly disagree, objectively, that's an unlikely pairing. I have explained why.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3553 (isolation #44) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:16 am

In post 3549, AxleGreaser wrote:You are spontaneous like that?

Yes, and from my perspective, you're kinda tunneling on a townie, so that's not in your favor.

You are failing to really look at the rest. As such I no longer think your line of inquiry is necessarily town-motivated.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3565 (isolation #45) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:27 am

In post 3557, Spiffeh wrote:The post vomit.

I can actually talk about it now since the game is over.

Fro99er was scum in Delicious Mafia 2 which ended very recently and his play here does not resemble his play there in the slightest.

It would seem unlikely for scum to hard-defend another player like this (another player I know to be town, ie me), with victory so close.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3603 (isolation #46) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:21 am

In post 3602, Shazam wrote:And this is why I think it's an exception. Sakura's mistake would make much more sense if she did not actually track anyone and messed up the claim that she did. If you haven't actually gotten a guilty, it's just fine and dandy to sheep someone instead of using the guilty. Is there a scum motivation for this? Well...not really, aside from taking advantage of a mislynch. But it's a mistake that's easier for scum to make. Much easier.

Did Sakura START the wagon with that guilty? Or ADD to it?
Who was being wagoned when the guilty came up?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3606 (isolation #47) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:15 am

Thanks

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3607 (isolation #48) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:19 am

I'd like to hear more from Echo & Shazam.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3611 (isolation #49) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:25 am

In post 3609, Echo Echo wrote:I'm on V/LA and can only check this thread very periodically. I understand that my failed attempts at VCA could have come across as scum-motivated to Axle. But they aren't. Like I said, I'm still learning.

My efforts are also painted as scum-motivated by Axle so...

Question to you: who have been the most influential players in the game from your perspective?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3613 (isolation #50) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:26 am

In post 3610, Echo Echo wrote:I tried to get myself nightkilled yesterday by fakeclaiming mason so that we would have an easier day today in the event the Davsto lynch went south, which I feared. Unfortunately, I didn't communicate well enough with ika, and he got the wrong idea. He claimed and died.

I don't understand. You counterclaimed Mason to the real Mason?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3619 (isolation #51) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:26 am

In post 3615, Echo Echo wrote:
In post 3613, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3610, Echo Echo wrote:I tried to get myself nightkilled yesterday by fakeclaiming mason so that we would have an easier day today in the event the Davsto lynch went south, which I feared. Unfortunately, I didn't communicate well enough with ika, and he got the wrong idea. He claimed and died.

I don't understand. You counterclaimed Mason to the real Mason?

Correct.

How would that even work, though?

DrippingGoofball · Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:42 am

I am failing to understand the mason thing.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3650 (isolation #53) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:29 pm

In post 3629, Spiffeh wrote:I still don't see a world in which scum Echo claims mason.

No? That would be my first thought, so the circumstances must have been extenuating?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3655 (isolation #54) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:36 pm

So the scum swore completely off the Davsto wagon?

Davsto

(7) -

BananaCucho

, Echo Echo, Sakura Hana,

Vedith

,

DrippingGoofball

,

I Am Innocent

,

Bearbert D

Vedith

(2) -

MarioManiac4

,

tn5421

MarioManiac4

(2) - Spiffeh,

Davsto

Echo Echo (1) -

Flubbernugget

I Am Innocent

(1) - AxleGreaser
Spiffeh (1) -

Firebringer

DrippingGoofball

(1) - Shazam

One of these is scum

Echo Echo, Sakura Hana

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3658 (isolation #55) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:40 pm

In post 3651, Spiffeh wrote:DGB what do you think of Shazam?

I don't know... I read some of his iso... he looks legit...

Tonally, ALL OF YOU sound town to me right now.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3661 (isolation #56) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:41 pm

In post 3660, AxleGreaser wrote:shitting up the thread.

Hey that's not very nice, I am not "shitting up the thread."

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3670 (isolation #57) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:39 pm

In post 3669, AxleGreaser wrote:Raw rank order at the moment would be Echo + DGB > Shazam > Sakura > Spiffeh.

pedit: Sry. about her vs his. Most puter nerd types that i know are his.

I find it hard to see you as credible since you misread me as scum. Just my personal bias.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3671 (isolation #58) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:44 pm

In post 3667, AxleGreaser wrote:If I get time, I will post some more about what i specifically dont like about how DGb did his scum puter.

Instead of that, can you humor me, and make your own supergenius scumputer? Make sure to color me town-blue, otherwise I won't believe it.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3674 (isolation #59) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:15 pm

I don't usually look at the scumputer that way but I made a color graphic for myself and I see that the following scumpairs, while not impossible, are unlikely.

AXLE >>> unlikely scum with Shazam, Echo and Sakura
so could be scum with Shiro or Spiffeh.

SAKURA >>> unlikely with AXLE, but possible with everyone else.

ECHO >>> unlikely scum with Axle or Shazam,
so could be scum with Shiro, Spiffeh, Sakura.

There are no other forbidden pairs.

(1) But one of Axle and Sakura nearly HAS to be scum, though not both of them together.

If Axle is scum, his partner is Spiffeh, or Shiro.

If Sakura is scum then her partner is someone other than Axle.

(2) Sakura AND Echo could both be scum, and be scum together.

If only Echo is scum, his partner is Shiro or Spiffeh.

If Sakura is scum then her partner is someone other than Axle.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3675 (isolation #60) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:17 pm

In post 3673, AxleGreaser wrote:You posted your scum puter algorithms results, i identified flaws in your work.

Then impress me, fix it and find scum. If you find that I am scum that means your theory failed. That's the litmus test.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3680 (isolation #61) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:20 pm

In post 3676, Spiffeh wrote:You do know Shiro is dead right?

Also answer my question pls

Not through your algorithm or w/e but what you genuinely think.

I do not?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3682 (isolation #62) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:21 pm

Axle, I am town. You are adorably dead wrong.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3683 (isolation #63) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:21 pm

In post 3681, Spiffeh wrote:You don't know that Shiro is dead?

?
?
?

Ooops

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3684 (isolation #64) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:22 pm

Did I look at a wrong version?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3689 (isolation #65) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:29 pm

I don't usually look at the scumputer that way but I made a color graphic for myself and I see that the following scumpairs, while not impossible, are unlikely.

AXLE >>> unlikely scum with Shazam, Echo and Sakura
so could be scum with

Shiro

or Spiffeh.

SAKURA >>> unlikely with AXLE, but possible with everyone else.

ECHO >>> unlikely scum with Axle or Shazam,
so could be scum with

Shiro

, Spiffeh, Sakura.

There are no other forbidden pairs.

(1) But one of Axle and Sakura nearly HAS to be scum, though not both of them together.

If Axle is scum, his partner is Spiffeh.

If Sakura is scum then her partner is someone other than Axle.

(2) Sakura AND Echo could both be scum, and be scum together.

If only Echo is scum, his partner is Spiffeh.

If only Sakura is scum then her partner is someone other than Axle.

(3) Sakura AND Spiffeh could both be scum, and be scum together.

If only Sakura is scum, then her partner is Shazam or Echo.

If only Spiffeh is scum, then his partner could be anyone.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3690 (isolation #66) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:29 pm

In post 3688, Sakura Hana wrote:Yeah i don't get how DGB keeps coming back to Shiro being alive...

Yeah I did a diagram but I used my Live-Shiro scumputer version.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3694 (isolation #67) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:33 pm

In post 3685, Spiffeh wrote:
In post 3672, Spiffeh wrote:DGB who is Scumraka's teammate?

Echo or Spiffeh, but I'd say more likely Echo.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3696 (isolation #68) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:35 pm

In post 3692, Sakura Hana wrote:Do you realize that if Axle was scum with spiffeh i would be hammered by now?

P-Edit: but that name sounds ugly :< also DGB is a she.

Oh yeah, for real!

Well as bad as he is... it pains me to say, he's bloody well near conftown then.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3697 (isolation #69) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:35 pm

In post 3696, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3692, Sakura Hana wrote:Do you realize that if Axle was scum with spiffeh i would be hammered by now?

P-Edit: but that name sounds ugly :< also DGB is a she.

Oh yeah, for real!

Well as bad as he is... it pains me to say, he's bloody well near conftown then.

That is >>>IF<<< you're town of course!

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3698 (isolation #70) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:36 pm

But if you're scum they are not scum together. I am slow tonight.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3701 (isolation #71) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:40 pm

I Am Innocent

(7) -

Ricastle

,

Bearbert D

,

Vedith

,

Sakura Hana

,

Spiffeh

,

Shiro

,

BananaCucho

Davsto

(2) -

Slandaar

,

AxleGreaser

Echo Echo

(2) -

Davsto

,

Flubbernugget

Vedith

(2) -

MarioManiac4

,

tn5421

(1) -

DrippingGoofball

Spiffeh

(1) -

Firebringer

AxleGreaser

(1) -

Echo Echo

Ricastle

(1) -

I Am Innocent

DrippingGoofball

(1) -

Shazam

One of these is scum

Sakura Hana

,

Spiffeh

Davsto

(7) -

BananaCucho

,

Echo Echo

,

Sakura Hana

,

Vedith

,

DrippingGoofball

,

I Am Innocent

,

Bearbert D

Vedith

(2) -

MarioManiac4

,

tn5421

MarioManiac4

(2) -

Spiffeh

,

Davsto

Echo Echo

(1) -

Flubbernugget

I Am Innocent

(1) -

AxleGreaser

Spiffeh

(1) -

Firebringer

DrippingGoofball

(1) -

Shazam

One of these is scum

Echo Echo

,

Sakura Hana

MarioManiac4

(10) -

Davsto

,

Slandaar

,

Shiro

,

Sakura Hana

,

BananaCucho

,

Shazam

,

Vedith

,

Ricastle

,

Spiffeh

,

Bearbert D

Davsto

(4) -

Echo Echo

,

DrippingGoofball

,

I Am Innocent

,

MarioManiac4

I Am Innocent

(2) -

AxleGreaser

,

Flubbernugget

Vedith

(1) -

tn5421

Spiffeh

(1) -

Firebringer

One of these is scum

Sakura Hana

,

Spiffeh

,

Shiro

,

Shazam

tn5421

(9) -

Echo Echo

,

Spiffeh

,

Vedith

,

Davsto

,

Shazam

,

Ricastle

,

Sakura Hana

,

Bearbert D

,

ika

Davsto

(1) -

AxleGreaser

I Am Innocent

(1) -

tn5421

Spiffeh

(1) -

I Am Innocent

Flubbernugget

(1) -

Shiro

One of these is scum

Sakura Hana

,

Spiffeh

,

Echo Echo

,

Shazam

Flubbernugget

(8) -

Echo Echo

,

Vedith

,

Sakura Hana

,

Shiro

,

DrippingGoofball

,

Davsto

,

Bearbert D

,

Spiffeh

Firebringer

(2) -

Ricastle

,

AxleGreaser

One of these is scum

Sakura Hana

,

Spiffeh

,

Echo Echo

Bearbert D

(4) -

Firebringer

,

Echo Echo

,

AxleGreaser

,

DrippingGoofball

Firebringer

(4) -

Shazam

,

Sakura Hana

,

Bearbert D

,

Vedith

DrippingGoofball

(1) -

Ricastle

One of these is scum

Echo Echo

[/i]

Bearbert D

(5) -

Firebringer

,

Davsto

,

Vedith

,

DrippingGoofball

,

Sakura Hana

DrippingGoofball

(2) -

Shazam

,

AxleGreaser

Davsto

(2) -

Bearbert D

,

Echo Echo

Shazam

(1) -

Ricastle

One of these is scum

Sakura Hana

Firebringer

(7) -

Sakura Hana

,

AxleGreaser

,

Davsto

,

Ricastle

,

Bearbert D

,

Vedith

,

DrippingGoofball

Bearbert D

(1) -

Firebringer

DrippingGoofball

(1) -

Shazam

Davsto

(1) -

Echo Echo

One of these is scum

Sakura Hana

DrippingGoofball

(4) -

AxleGreaser

,

DrippingGoofball

,

Ricastle

,

Shazam

Bearbert D

(1) -

Davsto

(1) -

Bearbert D

One of these is scum

Shazam

Bearbert D

(6) -

Echo Echo

,

Spiffeh

,

DrippingGoofball

,

Davsto

,

Shazam

,

Ricastle

DrippingGoofball

(2) -

AxleGreaser

,

Sakura Hana

Shazam

(2) -

ika

,

Bearbert D

One of these is scum

Echo Echo

,

Spiffeh

,

Shazam

Davsto

(5) -

ika

,

AxleGreaser

,

Spiffeh

,

Sakura Hana

,

Davsto

ika

(2) -

Shazam

,

Echo Echo

One of these is scum

,

Spiffeh

,

Sakura Hana

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3703 (isolation #72) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:42 pm

In post 3699, Spiffeh wrote:DGB can you explain why myself and Echo are the most likely candidates to be her partner?

The Davsto & IAI wagons.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3705 (isolation #73) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:46 pm

In post 3704, Spiffeh wrote:I'm gonna vote for Shazam when I wake up tomorrow probably so people have until then to convince me not to (including Shazam himself).

BTW I'd like to point out that Spiffeh & I are officially not scumpals.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3707 (isolation #74) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:48 pm

In post 3706, Spiffeh wrote:Shouldn't you know that already?

>>>I<<< know that LOL, I am spelling it out for Axle

Anyhoo I am currently leaning on Echo.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3708 (isolation #75) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:51 pm

Gonna say Sakura & Echo.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3709 (isolation #76) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:55 pm

In post 3704, Spiffeh wrote:I'm gonna vote for Shazam when I wake up tomorrow probably so people have until then to convince me not to (including Shazam himself).

If Shazam is scum, he's either scum with you or with Sakura.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3711 (isolation #77) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:56 pm

It could be Sakura/Shazam.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3713 (isolation #78) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:29 pm

In post 3712, Sakura Hana wrote:It's not me orz
It's at the very least 1 of Shazam/Echo and im still leaning both.

So they both parked on ika while the town was lynching Davsto?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3714 (isolation #79) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:29 pm

In post 3712, Sakura Hana wrote:It's not me orz
It's at the very least 1 of Shazam/Echo and im still leaning both.

Which is scummiest and why? If you could only pick one...

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3744 (isolation #80) » Thu Oct 01, 2015 3:02 am

In post 3721, Spiffeh wrote:Axle and DGB please realize how scummy this is pls

Hold my hand

I am going to need some help with this.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3745 (isolation #81) » Thu Oct 01, 2015 3:07 am

In post 3726, Spiffeh wrote:
In post 3621, Sakura Hana wrote:Axle - Defends me and sees exactly through my eyes, understands my position and continues to hard defend me.
Spiffeh - Indecisive, keeps saying im scum, but at the very least it isnt blindly following the argument, he doesn't want to make a mistake.
DGB - Keeps trying to sort everything out to solve the game.

I mean here it looks like you're more or less town reading everyone left itg.

Playing devil's advocate, a good scum will keep all options open today.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3746 (isolation #82) » Thu Oct 01, 2015 3:19 am

I think the safest lynch for today might be Echo.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3788 (isolation #83) » Thu Oct 01, 2015 7:10 am

In post 3776, Echo Echo wrote:I'm not sure what favors you want me to do. Should I claim as the fourth Mason?

FOURTH mason???

LOL

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3789 (isolation #84) » Thu Oct 01, 2015 7:11 am

In post 3760, Spiffeh wrote:How is everyone all of a sudden against a Shazam lynch today this is very frustrating.

All will be considered in due time.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3790 (isolation #85) » Thu Oct 01, 2015 7:13 am

In post 3786, Sakura Hana wrote:Granted tho, im not sure if DGB's skewing results intentionally or not (Axle thinks it's intentional), and im not ready here to lose the game on blindly following him or anyone.

I don't think >>>I<<< am blindly following my own results so...

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3792 (isolation #86) » Thu Oct 01, 2015 7:27 am

I still think Echo is scum, his performance just now has not swayed me.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3794 (isolation #87) » Thu Oct 01, 2015 7:28 am

I might be willing to swing a vote Shazam's way.

DrippingGoofball · Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:52 am

Shazam/Echo scumteam?

DrippingGoofball · Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:56 am

I don't mind lynching Echo - maybe Axle doesn't mind lynching Shazam - I suppose we can discuss when he comes back.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3815 (isolation #90) » Thu Oct 01, 2015 4:39 pm

In post 3809, Spiffeh wrote:DGB do not vote Echo whatever you do.

Shazam will be lynched today. Me Sakura DGB Echo is four.

Whoever refuses is his teammate.

Why couldn't his team mate bus though?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3828 (isolation #91) » Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:19 am

Spiffeh, I do believe you are town now.

So that's you, Axle, and me. I don't trust Axle's judgement a whole lot since he thinks I am scum LOL. But I trust yours.

I agree with your #3822, with the caveat that he may have followed the momentum and maybe wasn't keeping track of the votecount. Well. That would be scummy, too.

Give me a few hours to think, this being MyLo and everything.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3833 (isolation #92) » Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:49 am

In post 3831, Echo Echo wrote:You piece of shit.

That's not necessary.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3834 (isolation #93) » Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:50 am

In post 3832, Echo Echo wrote:Hell, if the scum team does not include Axle in any way, we've already lost, because scum won't bus, and he won't move his ass from me.

He'll be nightkilled.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3872 (isolation #94) » Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:24 am

I am about to vote Shazam, but I want a drumroll first.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3873 (isolation #95) » Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:25 am

tadatadatadata
ratatatatatata

VOTE: Shazam

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3875 (isolation #96) » Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:13 am

Why Sakura over Echo?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3878 (isolation #97) » Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:25 am

I am on pins and needles

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3881 (isolation #98) » Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:29 am

In post 3880, Echo Echo wrote:
In post 3876, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 3873, DrippingGoofball wrote:tadatadatadata
ratatatatatata

VOTE: Shazam

YES

HMMMMMMMMMMMM

She didn't want to see YOUR reaction, LOL.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3882 (isolation #99) » Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:30 am

In post 3879, Sakura Hana wrote:Haha, nah i'm just kidding, wanted to see spiffeh's and DGB's reaction just to be 100% sure this was a scum lynch.

I am not sure if I find this re-assuring?

DrippingGoofball · Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:35 am

DrippingGoofball · Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:36 am

So the last scum would be Echo.

DrippingGoofball · Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:01 am

In post 3899, Spiffeh wrote:If you guys are scum together I demand to be financially compensated for the emotional distress you are putting me through.

LOL yes

DrippingGoofball · Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:05 am

Dear Mod,

Please come soon to deliver me from my misery.

Thanks,

DGB

DrippingGoofball · Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:06 am

I hope I don't live to have to pick between the two of you tomorrow.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:50 am

In post 3702, Spiffeh wrote:Guys can't we just compromise on Shazam.

So. Spiffeh is conftown.

The remaining scum is between Echo & Sakura.

And the remaining scum has powers, all the dead scum were goons.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:52 am

In post 3718, Spiffeh wrote:Sakura and Shazam scumteam confirmed ???

In post 3719, Spiffeh wrote:Seriously Sakura that is probably the scummiest thing you have done all day.

Noted.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:52 am

In post 3963, Spiffeh wrote:How do we know they're not all goons?

Nothing is impossible, but that's highly doubtful.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:53 am

Rolewise, I am leaning Sakura, behaviorwise, leaning Echo.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:35 am

In post 3967, Sakura Hana wrote:Because how else did fire didnt die from sala's shot.

What is that?

DrippingGoofball · Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:36 am

In post 3969, Spiffeh wrote:DGB why do you think Echo's behavior is scummier than Sakura's?

Sakura has been really pro-active and inquisitive, Echo, not so much. Having said that, Echo's last minute performance last night gave me pause.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:37 am

In post 3972, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 3970, Spiffeh wrote:Sakura what do you think about the kill on Axle?

I don't really like to rely on night kill analysis because i've always thought of it was WIFOM. I mean it COULD be because Echo wanted Axle out of the way so he could lynch me more easily, it COULD be random, it COULD be because Axle was being treated as conftown by DGB, I DONT KNOW! so many reasons for him to die.

Yeah well Axle was pretty much unlynchable.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:38 am

In post 3974, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 3971, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3967, Sakura Hana wrote:Because how else did fire didnt die from sala's shot.

What is that?

If scum was all goons then Fire would have died from Sala's shot unless interference from a town doctor (which they'd have claimed by now), so it's possible that the last scum is a doctor, which is what we've been speculating all game.

So scum would ONLY have a doctor???

DrippingGoofball · Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:39 am

In post 3968, Spiffeh wrote:If DGB is scum I concede lol

And I am thinking, if Sakura is scum, I concede.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:48 am

Spiffeh wrote:
Shazam wrote:
In post 3802, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 3801, Shazam wrote:I am confident that the team is Echo and Sakura

So Echo's busing his partner with very poor reasoning instead of attempting to get a mislynch on MyLo, did I get that right?

Sure, why not? It's worked out pretty well if you ask me. In light of that, I have figured out that the only way to lynch someone other than me (and thereby give town a chance of winning) is to vote Echo first. My only hope is if the two of you who seem to think it's Echo and me (or at least that it could be) will vote Echo first.

VOTE: Echo Echo

The funny thing is Sakura had more votes than Echo at this time and his switch to Echo was what MADE Echo have the most votes.

So there was no reason for you to switch off of her.

DGB this should be more reason than any to vote for him.

Are we still considering this event?

DrippingGoofball · Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:51 am

In post 3867, Sakura Hana wrote:Although if Shazam's town, the only scumteams that make sense are Me/Echo and DGB/Spiffeh (i think?), and i know it's not the first, and on the 2nd i would've been hammered...

So Shazam's
Confirmed Scum.

With Shazam dead scum, what have we got on this front?

DrippingGoofball · Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:01 pm

In post 3986, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 3985, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3867, Sakura Hana wrote:Although if Shazam's town, the only scumteams that make sense are Me/Echo and DGB/Spiffeh (i think?), and i know it's not the first, and on the 2nd i would've been hammered...

So Shazam's
Confirmed Scum.

With Shazam dead scum, what have we got on this front?

Who im voting obviously.
I already mentioned why i didnt think you or Spiffeh were scum yesterday. And i made certain of it with my reaction test at the end of yesterday.

Does it say anything about YOU?

DrippingGoofball · Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:12 pm

In post 3988, Sakura Hana wrote:Why would i be scumhunting myself who i know to be town? :<

LOL I mean what should it say about you from my POV?

DrippingGoofball · Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:14 pm

I'm lazy

DrippingGoofball · Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:34 pm

Waiting for Echo to show up and talk.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:49 pm

I'm leaning towards an Echo vote right now.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:40 pm

Obviously scum is between either of you cross-voters, and I will say, since you made it this far as scum, one of you played an excellent town game.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:57 pm

Firebringer

(7) -

Sakura Hana

, AxleGreaser, Davsto, Ricastle, Bearbert D, Vedith, DrippingGoofball
Bearbert D (1) -

Firebringer

DrippingGoofball (1) -

Shazam

Davsto (1) -

Echo Echo

Did scum Sakura come up with a guilty on FB, and none of her buddies followed through with a vote?

Or did town Sakura come up with a guilty on FB, and all the scum decided to shun the wagon?

DrippingGoofball · Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:58 pm

Davsto (5) - ika, AxleGreaser, Spiffeh,

Sakura Hana

, Davsto
ika (2) -

Shazam

,

Echo Echo

Did all the scum stay off the Davsto wagon? Both wagons were on town...

DrippingGoofball · Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:00 pm

I Am Innocent (7) - Ricastle, Bearbert D, Vedith,

Sakura Hana

, Spiffeh, Shiro, BananaCucho
Davsto (2) - Slandaar, AxleGreaser

Echo Echo

(2) - Davsto, Flubbernugget
Vedith (2) - MarioManiac4,

tn5421

(1) - DrippingGoofball
Spiffeh (1) - Firebringer
AxleGreaser (1) -

Echo Echo

Ricastle (1) - I Am Innocent
DrippingGoofball (1) -

Shazam

Did ALL the scum shun the IAI wagon, or is there one Sakurascum on it?

DrippingGoofball · Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:03 pm

MarioManiac4 (10) - Davsto, Slandaar, Shiro,

Sakura Hana

, BananaCucho,

Shazam

, Vedith, Ricastle, Spiffeh, Bearbert D
Davsto (4) -

Echo Echo

, DrippingGoofball, I Am Innocent, MarioManiac4
I Am Innocent (2) - AxleGreaser, Flubbernugget
Vedith (1) -

tn5421

Spiffeh (1) -

Firebringer

Is there only one scum on the 10-people MM4 wagon, or two?

DrippingGoofball · Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:21 pm

In post 4014, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 4010, DrippingGoofball wrote:
Davsto (5) - ika, AxleGreaser, Spiffeh,
Sakura Hana
, Davsto
ika (2) -
Shazam
,
Echo Echo

Did all the scum stay off the Davsto wagon? Both wagons were on town...

Echo jumped off the wagon at the last minute tho.

Onto what?

DrippingGoofball · Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:22 pm

In post 4013, Spiffeh wrote:
In post 4009, DrippingGoofball wrote:
Firebringer
(7) -
Sakura Hana
, AxleGreaser, Davsto, Ricastle, Bearbert D, Vedith, DrippingGoofball
Bearbert D (1) -
Firebringer

DrippingGoofball (1) -
Shazam

Davsto (1) -
Echo Echo

Did scum Sakura come up with a guilty on FB, and none of her buddies followed through with a vote?

Or did town Sakura come up with a guilty on FB, and all the scum decided to shun the wagon?

Well FB wasn't gonna vote himself, and Shazam didn't post again after Sakura outed her guilty.

I accept this explanation.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 4:45 am

I am just watching for a certain infallible town/scum tell.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 4:47 am

It's the Secret Minineko Lylo Tell. You haven't heard of it, that's how secret it is.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 4:54 am

In post 4042, Echo Echo wrote:A tell of such a description would be intriguing, though. Is it specific to player personality archetypes, or just a generic one-size-fits-all shotgun?

It fits every situation.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:38 am

I haven't seen enough. You can vote either way, I won't be hammering. I am waiting for a behavioral tell. We need to keep talking.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:58 am

SPIFFEH YOU HAVE TO UNVOTE

HURRY UP

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:58 am

NO wait I am retarded

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:59 am

It doesn't matter, LOL, imagined it was a third vote instead of only a second vote.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:04 am

I thought, shit, if Echo is scum he'll hammer, but that's because I cannot count to 3.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:05 am

I am actually leaning Echoscum right now.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:06 am

In post 4061, Sakura Hana wrote:Also Echo is already voting me DGB

That is why I am not an accountant.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:13 am

In post 4063, Spiffeh wrote:Why'd that DGB?

Just hints of the Minineko Secret Lylo Tell, but not enough to be sure.

Both of them sound really townie to me right now, so gut is useless.

Sakura Hana's (BP + JOAT) is such a scum role, she used her powers too late in the game, I don't think she's telling the truth about the whole role. Has she ever made a complete list of her JOAT powers? I do believe that the scum does need some interesting powers, which must be concentrated in one player since the rest were all goons. Her voting record is pretty scummy, but the scumputer works best in mid-game where it can catch average predicted behavior. In end-game, you are more likely to be dealing with quirks and outliers. Did she bus Firebringer?

Question

: could Firebringer have been viewed as a LIABILITY that would be more useful to the team DEAD?

Echo, well, I got nothing either way.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:13 am

In post 4065, Echo Echo wrote:That is why you married a PhD mathematician.

He is worse than me with simple arithmetic, that was a nasty surprise, LOL.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:15 am

I am going to iso the dead scum for clues. I haven't done that. I should.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:15 am

In post 4068, Echo Echo wrote:
In post 4066, DrippingGoofball wrote:could Firebringer have been viewed as a LIABILITY that would be more useful to the team DEAD?

Yes. With my knowledge of Firebringer and the current gamestate, he would readily agree to be bussed.

This statement is not biased against Sakura in any way, it's a factual statement.

Care to explain?

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:20 am

In post 4071, Sakura Hana wrote:1-Shot Bulletproof.

As an active ability? Weird.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:21 am

In post 4072, Echo Echo wrote:town Vig Salamence delivered a shot onto Firebringer, who didn't die. This is clear indication that Firebringer was marked for death. My current theory was that Salamence was roleblocked that night.

Firebringer claimed 1 shot BP (Fake), which would have counterclaimed Sakura's "BP+JOAT" anyway

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:23 am

In post 4075, Sakura Hana wrote:2457 disagrees with Echo's theory of busing.

That's interesting because you were on the vig's scumlist. Bus'ing a goon to survive as the scum's lone power role isn't a bad move.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:24 am

In post 4077, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 4074, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 4071, Sakura Hana wrote:1-Shot Bulletproof.

As an active ability? Weird.

I already stated it was passive

And you used two active abilities night 3 & 4

What night was the kill blocked?

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:26 am

In post 4079, Spiffeh wrote:Salamence, the two shot vig, asked Firebringer to claim immediately at the start of Day 4

OK so he shot Night 3.

mkay

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:27 am

In post 4087, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 4085, Echo Echo wrote:Did you just... did you just quote a Salamence post that literally damned you?!

No, it shows that i had no reason to bus fire? he was already being townread along with Shazam.

Did you just include Shazam in that sentence? Isn't that an interesting point of view, LOL.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:29 am

In post 4095, Sakura Hana wrote:shazam to firebringer

Why?

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:33 am

In post 2104, Firebringer wrote:Fires Read List [Trade Mark]

Pisskop-Scum
, his lack of most content, his buddying of sala. Not to mention he contributes little to none to discussion, his argument on Aeronaut is hilarious when you look at what he has contributed. Its almost all fluff, Flubbernugget was fluff posting almost. Look at Pisskop though, how is he town?

Spiffeh-Scum
, where do I start? Okay, looks to jump on almost every fricking wagon, he jumps on almost anyone I am personally town reading, this guy derails all train. Then comes next few days he wants town cred for his actions? What?

Shiro-Scum
, sheeps everything. Offers little to no contributions to the game. Everything else is fluff and is actually worse than Pisskop.

Town:

Salamence
-Pretty much confirmed.

Axxle
-I agree with everything he has said, liked his intro, definitely town player.

Sakura
-Contributes quite a bit, I like what I am seeing from her.

Shazam-Definitely town.
I agreed again with most what this guy was saying, his intro seemed try hard, but I think that’s just his style.

Null-

Davsto
-He is eh

Fro99er
-I was sure he was scum in early stages, less sure now.

Ricastle
-Not much to go on.

Ika
-Ehhh

VOTE: Pisskop

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:39 am

In post 2685, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2683, Fro99er wrote:
In post 2682, Firebringer wrote:This is ridiculous.

Why?

Do you think Hana is faking a guilty on you?

Because you playing with you Fro99er is a waste of my time.
Like I honestly don't think you are scum, cause when you were scum in that other game you were competent.

Here you are just flipping on everything, and its just annoying.

Firebring is dodging this important question.

His answer should be YES AND HANA IS SCUM. No? Am I missing something?

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:40 am

In post 4109, Sakura Hana wrote:Apparently fire didnt post a read on Echo?

or on tn241

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:43 am

In post 4113, Echo Echo wrote:No clue, this would make an assumption on the competence of Firebringer's play, as well as his state of mind and motivations during that period of time.

That is what this game is all about.

I know if I were scum and someone had some incriminating results my first instinct is to call them liars and scum and go 1 vs 1. Then get lynched the next day LOL.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:44 am

In post 4120, Echo Echo wrote:Could've been staged.

If it's stage he'd kinda let it happen and not fight it too hard with regards to his accomplice/accuser.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:01 am

In post 4100, Echo Echo wrote:
In post 2689, Sakura Hana wrote:This progression doesn't feel natural:

In post 2669, Fro99er wrote:Ooh!

In post 2670, Fro99er wrote:VOTE: Fire

In post 2671, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2670, Fro99er wrote:VOTE: Fire

Stop bussing me teammate!

In post 2672, Fro99er wrote:
In post 2671, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2670, Fro99er wrote:VOTE: Fire

Stop bussing me teammate!

Ok!

VOTE: Bearbert

In post 2673, Fro99er wrote:
In post 2668, Sakura Hana wrote:Is this the part where i say that fire targeted shiro last night?

Fire should fullclaim rn

Specially after i had just called them possible buddies.

Look at what I just found.

It's interesting that Firebringer had "bussing team mates" on his mind, though he directed it at Fro99er.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:03 am

Very tempted to vote Sakura Hana.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:05 am

I will not vote for at least 24 hours.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:00 am

In post 4158, Sakura Hana wrote:Yeah, this was almost driving me crazy, sorry team.

For those wondering, what happened in D4 wasn't staged, i just panic'd and did that fake claim without thinking.

phewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:25 am

%-day days are awesome.

Also I need to high-five Spiffeh!

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:27 am

EBWOP

5-days

DrippingGoofball · Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:27 am

Sakura played a really good game, behaviorally, she played really townie.