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Let's fix thatIn post 286, Transcend wrote:Kinda disappointed we're escaping rvs and didn't get a large wagon from it. O well. Maybe next massive ass game.
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Then is it good if I'm not?
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............ ? Serious?In post 496, gerryoat wrote:
Btw this is a fake reaction, he says this an hour plus after free the mod posted after the fake shot. It was a forced reaction to cast a dark cloud over itIn post 487, ironstove wrote:Was that vigi shot legit? If not I don't like the fake vigi shot and the fake confirmation that the vigi shot was real.
lol VOTE: Gerry-
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TrueIn post 763, Alisae wrote:
True or False: In your opinion Ironstove is lynchbait.In post 761, Pepchoninga wrote:
I think gerry and his sheeps are doing a perfectly fine job at that tho.In post 758, Alisae wrote:LOL You just said the reason why you should vote him: to step up his game.-
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I already said I'm gonna be on vacation starting tomorrow until Sunday night and I have 0 intention of checking mafia unless I'm bored at night because I'm going snowboarding so it's an utter waste of time to vote my slot if you're trying to pressure me unless you plan to park votes on me for 4 days so you might as well pressure other people and come back to my slot when I return.In post 773, gerryoat wrote:more votes on iron needed por favor
If you want to lynch me without giving me a chance to defend myself or claim then that just makes you look bad IDGAF.-
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@mod you misspelled my name, it's ironstove, I did a keyword search for my name to find relevant posts to try to understand how town players could support running up a wagon on someone that was going to be AFK for 4 days rather than try to scum hunt and pressure active players, BUT HEY I JUST REJOINED MS SO MAYBE I'M MISSING OUT ON THE NEW META.-
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I haven't read anything between pg 38-61, I'm checking out and driving back tomorrow morning, will be back tonight and i'll try to find the time to catch up and read up on everything and understand who the hell is egging on this terrible wagon so hard and try to sort out which of the people voting this wagon are bad towns.
In all seriousness, why are you people voting for me? Is it because I was inactive? Did I say or do something scummy? That post about being low-effort town until the herd was thinned? Yea, ok. Real solid analysis there. That's a reasonable excuse to vote someone, but the V/LA announcement followed by me ACTUALLY NOT POSTING ANYTHING SINCE THE ANNOUNCEMENT makes me very skeptical in believing that people who FOS'd me could find NO BETTER SCUM READS THAN ME.
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Hehe, why am I scum?In post 1518, Pine wrote:You're not being wagoned for being V/LA
You're being wagoned for being scum
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I have 20 posts in this entire thread of 1500+ posts, close to a 4th of my posts was just posted right now. Yall being hella silly to vote on someone who announced being on vacation under the presumption that I'm hiding as scum.
You basically wasted 4 days not even pressuring anyone because either scum or a really misguided town player thought it would be a good idea to build a case on someone who wouldn't be around to defend themselves + try to pressure someone who would give 0 response, and now you're all convinced that I'm scum because
A. You don't want to live out the shame in admitting all of the people that voted for me literally just wasted 4 days that could have been used to pressure other players and scum hunt
B. You don't want to admit you've been pocketed by scum by voting for a wagon on a town player
C. You got some mad vendetta against my doge avatar-
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Like rather than admit it's a awful wagon that you're on, you're just going to double down and lynch me anyway just to see me flip green and then be like 'oh whoops i guess he was town after all, but he deserved to be lynched because he was playing so scummy announcing V/LA!!!! ONLY SCUM WOULD DO THAT!!!'-
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Legit astounded and looking forward to finding out who spearheaded this wagon to try to glean information out of an AFK slot, like literally leading town on a wild goose-chase
which person wants to take accountability? Well, I'm here now, go ahead accuse me of being scum, show me why I'm mafia, pressure me, I'm really looking forward to reading your awful reasoning so I can pick it apart because I already know it's all wrong.-
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What does it have to do with then? Explain it to me, oh my god dude how long are you going to keep up this whole 'nice try but we know you're mafia and we're not going to listen to anything you have to say because it's too late' act?In post 1527, Pine wrote:Yeah, Iron, you being on V/LA has nothing to do with it. Nice try.
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Pine, you sound really confident that I'm mafia, either you're a crap town trying to sound confident in something you obv have no clue about as a rxn test, or you're maf and you're making a really bad play by pushing a lynch that might have worked but has turned sour.
I'm gonna opt for the town view because I legit cannot fathom what kind of mafia player would make such a bold and dumb play like this on D1, so I'm going to ask you then from your town perspective, what has made you convinced with such fanaticism that I'm scum considering that I've only made ~15 posts in this 1500+ post game prior to my return???-
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Ok, you know what I take back calling you a crap town, but I don't like:
a. your cocky attitude on your read which I know is wrong
b. your lack of explaining and communicating why you have such reads which makes me feel like you're not listening to anything I am saying and have no good reasons to sr my slot
c. no ability on my part to understand what route of logic led you to being where you are now in terms of reads on the game state
Also, I am trying to avoid the name calling and flaming, new year new me. Also, I don't want to get banned again for going on tilt.-
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translation: I will help you lynch someone that I know is town, if you also help me lynch another person that I also know is town. Do you agree to being pocketed?In post 1535, Pepchoninga wrote:
How about this. Considering thst Alisae shot is real at the end of the day I will be cleared. Unfortunately Alis is dumb and makes rushed decisions >.<In post 1509, Pine wrote:Seriously, Pep. You can still win by helping us eliminate the other team.
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How do you expect me to be town pine? Could you please explain to me because I'm actually really bad at being town apparently and I'd like your guidance to understand what I need to do in order to be town read by you.In post 1541, Pine wrote:Yeah that's caught scum.
This game is like an embarrassment of riches for finding scum
PEdit: Iron are you still whining about the wagon on you? Deal with it. If you're Town, hat up and go be Town. This bitching and tantrum-throwing really doesn't help you.-
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I said I'm going to do it tomorrow when I get home, I'm interacting with people right now that are responding to me at this very moment.In post 1545, Alisae wrote:Yeah Iron, if you were town I would believe that you would attempt to catch up on what you missed, address people's concerns that they have about you, then attempt to redirect your pressure somewhere else. You aren't doing that.-
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I'm sorry, you think that pep is town and you agree with me, yet you still scum read me as well? Why do you have such contradicting behavior?In post 1546, Pine wrote:Yeah, we know Pep is scum too. You're not contributing anything new.
You realize that based on your reads thus far, it's contradicting to try to push both me and pep as a scum team. Do you understand why?-
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Yea, this was a really good post that you just made. Let me follow it up with a really good post of the same quality.In post 1551, Alisae wrote:
You're also making yourself look worse while you do that.In post 1550, ironstove wrote:
I said I'm going to do it tomorrow when I get home, I'm interacting with people right now that are responding to me at this very moment.In post 1545, Alisae wrote:Yeah Iron, if you were town I would believe that you would attempt to catch up on what you missed, address people's concerns that they have about you, then attempt to redirect your pressure somewhere else. You aren't doing that.-
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@transcend you said you town read my slot then put me high in your town reads list
In post 405, Transcend wrote:Disclaimer: This is a reads list, the mod did not edit any of this post.
{gerryoat}
{drealmerz7, Gamma Emerald, Indigo}
{BigYoshiFan, Jaack}
{ironstove, kuror0, Ramcius}
{LemonTree, PeregrineV, Pine}
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Since I feel nice I'll explain my reads in the next post so I have something to go off of, when I self-ISO and so you guys thoroughly understand my thought process.
Followed by a post that tries to vote for me, can you explain how you are able to make the flip and vote for someone you think is town ?
In post 1416, Transcend wrote:Gear,vanilla townie, was lynched day 5.
Pedit: i like wagons. The woof woof needs to advance.
VOTE: IRONSTOVE-
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In post 1557, Pine wrote:I imagine it was the Role PM that did it, but you're kind of hammering in the impression with every post.In post 1522, ironstove wrote:
Hehe, why am I scum?In post 1518, Pine wrote:You're not being wagoned for being V/LA
You're being wagoned for being scum
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1. "These three posts stand out as not especially Town-motivated."In post 1563, Pine wrote:Okay, fine you whiner.In post 488, ironstove wrote:If I was a vigi and I had 2 bullets and I was in a room with gerry, hitler, and stalin, I would shoot gerry twice.In post 746, ironstove wrote:Do setups like this usually hit majority on D1? Anyway I hard claim not mafia. Remove your lynches.
These three posts stand out as not especially Town-motivated. I joined in the Iron wagon for three reasons - first, the above amounts to a weak scumread. Second, my TRs all/mostly were thinking the same thing. Third, a flashwagon can help pressure someone to react, which you did. My weak scumread is now a pretty lockscum read because you've reacted TERRIBLE to getting some votes on you. Seriously, Town just doesn't hyperobsess with arguing the minutia of their wagon, they fight it by acting Town. That weaksauce attack on Pep was a clear attempt to divert attention away from you. Your attempts to deflect suspicion back onto me, then to dismiss me as an idiot. Then continuing to hyperfocus on yourself.In post 747, ironstove wrote:Haven't really been reading the game, I'm kinda low-effort towning it while there are this many players in the game because it's hard to formulate reads, but please continue posting and don't let me be a distraction.
Yeah, it all points to scum!Iron
Sorry, caught is caught.
That doesn't mean I'm scum, just like making posts that sound town motivated != someone is town.
2. "Third, a flashwagon can help pressure someone to react, which you did."
So by that logic, if I didn't react, you would think that I'm town? Because apparently the 3rd reason you scum read me is because I 'reacted'.
3. "That weaksauce attack on Pep was a clear attempt to divert attention away from you. "
No, I agree with this, I CLEARLY tried to get you to look elsewhere for scum because I am not scum. From a town's perspective, what do you want me to do? Keep egging you on to scum read me? Not look for scum? You are literally just tunneling me at this point and looking for reasons to scum read me.
4. " Then continuing to hyperfocus on yourself."
Ok, I have the most votes on me, should I not be focused on myself? No, I should be. And Despite you saying that, I just pointed out pep's scummy post and you called me out for it, so if I'm not focused on my wagon, it's scummy for 'trying to divert' according to your words, but if I do talk about my wagon, it's also scummy from your words because 'town wouldn't be obsessed with it'
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So you voted for me WHILE I was V/LA in order to see my reaction? lol.In post 1570, Transcend wrote:I like that we got a larger wagon but I only voted to see his reaction. I still think he's probably a mislynch, and I'd much rather.
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I caught up, here's what I think so far:
mafia:
pine - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p8726248
elena fisher - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p8727384
transcend - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8727931
alise - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p8725864, http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8730331
clumsy - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8730311
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jack
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kuror0
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bigyoshifan
pepchoninga
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nice scum reaction like all your other posts.In post 1991, Alisae wrote:You're calling me hopping off a Clum wagon resisting it even tho I'm okay with a lynch on it, just want to pressure a really unpressured slot before hopping back on?
Yeah no, shut the fuck up.
pedit: I am not letting him off the hook at all, and if he needs to be put back on the hook I can gladly do that, but right now I want to Pressure Jaack.
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was my lynch really just a fake wagon like people are trying to sell it as? I'm pretty sure that had I not appeared at the time that I had, it might have actually gone through.
Like, pine was pushing so hard when I came back like he wanted the lynch to go through so badly but then he literally bailed once people started questioning it and hasn't reappeared since.
strange thing though is that pine was never really scum reading my slot, he just went from null reading my slot into strong scum reading with this mega confidence in his posts that went completely unexplained with bullshit answers until I pushed him and he basically regurgitated and sheeped every reason gerryoat listed.-
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You should understand that a scum player would try to instigate a town player like this in order to get you reported and force-replaced or mod-killed.In post 2009, Fro99er wrote:
You're a piece of shit and the exact reason I left this site in the first place. I didn't start the curse war. You did.In post 2006, Alisae wrote:"I'm crying scum not getting the lynch they want, look at me cry."
You're still not answering the question of why you are so against a Jaack wagon.
I said you made a good case on Jaack but that was your only good case all game and I'm not going to join a wagon with someone I don't trust (read: you) especially in lieu of a Clumsy lynch which is far more obvious.
I have run into many scum players who I have fos'd early flaming me with insults and personal attacks in order to get me to tilt.
This is the very reason I was banned for a month, because I named the scum players on D2 and they were vets and friends with the person modding the game, I essentially flamed them back and they insta-reported me and banned me.
I would not even drop down to alise' level, I know and you know and all good town players know he has provided no real content and is only trying to stir the pot.-
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Hey guys alise wants to pressure another slot besides clumsy, can we all give him what he wants and vote to lynch alise?In post 2017, Alisae wrote:Yeah I thought so too.
But it's like Froggy is trying to avoid pressuring the Jaack slot altogether cuz he's complaining that his wagon has resistance. Why do you think that is?
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In post 2021, ironstove wrote:In post 2017, Alisae wrote:Yeah I thought so too.
But it's like Froggy is trying to avoid pressuring the Jaack slot altogether cuz he's complaining that his wagon has resistance. Why do you think that is?
Hey guys alise wants to pressure another slot besides clumsy, can we all give him what he wants and vote to lynch alise?
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I already explained very clearly why I think you are scumIn post 2023, Alisae wrote:Iron I'm still waiting for that case which is, where exactly?
1. You have not done any real scum hunting, your ISO is all spam of meme pictures and shit posts
2. You have no consistency in your reads and your transitions feel unnatural
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Why are you backing down? Are you scared now because you're getting FOS'd? Stop playing scum like such an obvious coward.In post 2032, Alisae wrote:Huh you think I'm tunneling?
Alright, I'll step back then.
It's just I really want to pressure that slot.
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Here, I'll quickly quote every shit post you've made in this game by skimming over your ISO againIn post 2034, Alisae wrote:
1. Is misrepresentation and just a lie. Go actually read my ISO kay thanks.In post 2030, ironstove wrote:
I already explained very clearly why I think you are scumIn post 2023, Alisae wrote:Iron I'm still waiting for that case which is, where exactly?
1. You have not done any real scum hunting, your ISO is all spam of meme pictures and shit posts
2. You have no consistency in your reads and your transitions feel unnatural
3. You overall tone and interpretation of the game makes me feel like you're not town
2. What transitions for reads do you want explained?
3. So you're calling how I play the game scummy? Um...Okay? I don't really think this is a good reason but alright lmao.
Spoiler: ISO quotes
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