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[Severa]

Please stop seeing yourself as a town carry because that's a lot of the reason that you're as problematic for towns as you are.

[Severa]

I'm not in your last two town games; I am in this town game.

[Severa]

This is a pointless discussion except for my 'I told you so' purposes.

[Severa]

I don't want to fight in thread anymore.

[Severa]

ThinkBig, Creature, I need to get a Drealmerz shot from one of you or we need to lynch him today.

[Severa]

I would rather that slot get vig shot because I'm not as 100% confident about it and pushing on it will get really messy.

[Severa]

Hey let's point out that Slick was townnn

He was very lynchable. people would have saved him to lynch him later. I'm more suspicious of people who never considered him than people who voted him.

Who are you referring to?

[Severa]

Who are you referring to?

Slick, should be obvious from the quote

Unless you mean "the people who never looked at him" which I haven't looked into yet, that's just a broad group I'd think is more likely to be scum

You should look into that then.

[Severa]

From here on out I think we need to leash both vig shots.

[Severa]

Holy shit fuck off guys. I did what I had to do to get scum lynched. Have a problem with my playstyle, fine, but you are a fucking tool if you think that I'm scum for it.

[Severa]

This game is giving me cancer.

It's not my fucking fault that all your reads are shit. it's yours. get better and I won't have to fakeclaim guilties on the literal most obvious scum that I have ever seen on this site.

Yes. I have a MAJOR issue with that kind of play. Go through and read this article http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... ts_as_Town

Had real power roles CC'd you, the game would be effectively over for town

I don't follow rules, I make them. I have made many fakeclaims in my career and only two have actually hurt my team's chances of winning while an insane amount have helped.

I know what I'm doing.

[Severa]

You elected me king of the fucking game when you all had shit reads and made obvscum wraith impossible to lynch.

[Severa]

My work is done. Contrary to popular belief I do not enjoy playing dictator. But if I had not done so a town lynch would have gone through and Wraith would have strongman killed me.

[Severa]

It's relevant now when people are trying to discredit me after I had to fucking drag everyone to that wagon.

[Severa]

Well no shit you are a scumfuck I understand you. But ThinkBig and other people who are town are giving me shit.

[Severa]

Simple answer: because it's multiball.

Alternative: why don't you vig the people I actually want vigged and let's kill the entire blue team so you know that I didn't hard bus Wraith. Mmmk?

[Severa]

Also, I don't really hard bus anymore. I haven't done that in a long time because when I do people still end up scumreading me for it. But I would still rather clean up blue team

[Severa]

Simple answer: because it's multiball.

Alternative: why don't you vig the people I actually want vigged and let's kill the entire blue team so you know that I didn't hard bus Wraith. Mmmk?

Yeah I think a lot of this comes from not understanding multiball. On my HS I've played multiball but only on scum side.

Basically by making myself the most prominent player in the game I make myself a super obvious nightkill target.
If I was red scum who wanted Wraith dead I would choose to NK him instead. I just flat out wauldn't bus him if I were blue, but I may not be able to convince you of that.

[Severa]

That's not how the game works. I am not responsible for your reads, I am responsible for mine.

[Severa]

Ah. well either way I think we can clean out scum before you get too paranoid of my slot but the vigs need to be targeted at my scumreads not not nullreads.

[Severa]

I want to either leash Creature by force with the stipulation that if his target even doesn't turn up dead we autolynch him or lynch him ourselves today.

I don't trust his reads if he's town, and I think it's pretty likely that he's just a serial killer masquerading as town and using pretend shit tier reads to try to justify shooting town.

[Severa]

We can have a discussion on who specifically he is to shoot but him being leashed is non-negotiable. A shit/scum player with the ability to perform night kills isn't something we can leave unchecked.

[Severa]

Even if he is town with his current claimed reads he's just going to shoot me and other townies and that's not something that I can allow right now.

[Severa]

No one hammers. The lynch will go through but I have shit to sort out. Unvote please.

Creature: I correctly townread SlickDilinger to the point of fighting that wagon and vig shot and I only conceded on SSBM because I figured they were dying eventually
Besides Echo, you're right, I don't have anyone who I'm willing to fakeclaim guilties on but my reads don't have to be that strong to be worth considering.
Do you or do you not have a shot tonight and can you direct that at someone outside of your current scumpool?

ThinkBig: Who in the alive playerlist are you willing to vig tonight?

[Severa]

No pls.

[Severa]

I really, really think that Scum!Titus is above making me feel like total shit because I tried to lynch scum instead of work with her.

[Severa]

I understand the way she is feeling and think she would neither feel this way nor think to pretend to feel this way in the way that she did if she were scu.m

[Severa]

Drealmerz has to be one of the vig shots I think. If we want to whittle down red team we should vig in HS/Alisae/LUV, if we want to hit blue team we should vig in Alisae/Drealmerz7/???

I want to go through the Zach and Dunnstral slots again before we end game because I had a feeling that my townreads on them were somewhat borne out of laziness.

[Severa]

tbh opposing scum lynch isn't always scum.

Blue scumteam pulled out all the fucking stops to keep Wraith alive because they wanted his strongman kill for me. Not everyone who opposed the scum lynch is scum, but I'm sure the last remaining blue scum is someone who opposed the scum lynch.

[Severa]

I mean HS depends. I don't like the way he got cold feet.

[Severa]

I find it really different to reconcile any other slots being blue scum unless one of the vigs is blue team masquerading their night kill as a vig shot.

So do you think that Blue scum was not on the Wraith wagon?

Unless it was you, yes. But I am thinking now again that it was not you. So that sorta just kinda leaves Drealmerz and the Zach/Dunn slots.

[Severa]

I had LUV as a scumread but I reread his play and I think that they're town? but if we run out of blue team suspects that's one to look into.

Ideally I'd like to get rid of people in the intersection of Red and Blue team so that we can hit scum even if we miss the faction that we were looking for.

[Severa]

I mean when I claimed an incorrect role cop result I'd hope they realized that I was fakeclaiming. I meant to go back to the point where I claimed that and see if anyone immediately realized I was fakeclaiming because most people thought my claim rose in credibility at that point, not dropped in it.

[Severa]

I believe Severa is just a very, very desperate VT. I got fakeclaim pings from her last claim (I was right) and I'm getting them again.
I'm sorry, I just don't agree.

Still could be this.

[Severa]

I'm going to bed, it's 7:20 AM. I'm cobbled up with thoughts right now, I'll take a clean look at the game and rethink the Severa/Wraith situation.
I've been flip-flopping on Wraith all game, just having the slot gone sounds good for peace of mind lmao.

I don't remember where my vote is, but I'm gonna UNVOTE: .

Not so much.

[Severa]

Excludeing you, 'maybe' on HS, and adding Titus, sure.

[Severa]

{Drealmerz/Zach} are my two favourite vigs I think. Both of them are heavily in my scumblock and both of them could be either faction.

There's a case to be made for specifically aiming for red in which case you can throw in Alisae.

[Severa]

I'm scum because?

Mostly PoE tbh. Though I really dislike how you came into today scumreading me for someone that made no sense then switched reads when I pointed out how it made no sense.

[Severa]

I think alisae and Zach are town

I'm not sure who I'd kill at the moment

And by kill, I mean lynchy lynchy not stabby stabby

Let's say Alisae/Zach are town. I'm town. You should be town. You think that Creature/ThinkBig are legit.

That means 4/7 of

Titus/HS/Echo/LUV/Mortfeld/Drealmerz/AA are scum.

[Severa]

I just realized I have been ignoring the AA slot. I think that makes this game a lot easier.

I get paranoid on reads when you do shit like that.
How do you expect me not to SR you for a minute or two because of your fake claims?

I mean there's a difference between a minute or two and having an entire night phase to think about why I wanted Wraith's head on a fucking plate.

[Severa]

So, lynch Echo vig Drealmerz?

[Severa]

Wait for a claim I guess.

FTR I'm not 100% 100% on this flipping town but I still think it's the best lynch.

[Severa]

Err. Many errors in previous post.

I'm not 100% 100% on DREALMERZ flipping SCUM but I still think it's the best VIG.

Echo's scum.