Large Normal 207: Theatre Mafia

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VOTE: Carcalilly

Also, this flavor was a pleasant surprise. I’m a theatre major.

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Dunker, show me that town fire of yours.

Like always, I’ll be inactive early game unless someone hard pings me.

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Hmm...I don’t know if that’s town fire or some generic fake fire.

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I’m more pro town as scum.

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At least for the first day or two.

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paranoia!dunker thinks boon is scum this game but paranoia!dunker is usually wrong

Pretty sure at this point everyone is paranoid of potential ScumBoon.

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I’m a walking paradox.

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Yeah, Una just posted the scummiest thing in the world. Why are you staying scum wouldn’t have to night kill?

K, I’m done with all this stuff. I’m a weak investigative role.

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Una's post IS bad though, I do agree, but I tend to want people to repeat their errors like that.

Stupid or malicious, boons?

Anyone that's played with boon before knows that's not his real role.

Anyone that’s played with Boon knows I do that as town and not scum.

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But I’m actually a weak investigative.

Or I’m a really strong investigative and scum will be hit by that tomorrow.

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Yeah, Una just posted the scummiest thing in the world. Why are you staying scum wouldn’t have to night kill?

Oh god you guys..

I meant that if we would lynch Boon D1, then scum wouldn't have to NK him N1.
Not funny?
No?

I’m going to take it as a compliment to my town game being dangerous to scum later in game. But you’re on thin ice.

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I could go meowmix.

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Unfamiliar scum tend to jump on me pretty easily and hard agree.

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VOTE: Meow mix

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The quicker I Pisskop, massive, and I can accurately and comfortably read each other, the smoother this game’s going to go. I’m comfortable stating massive as town. I’ve never seen him do his “good, so boons scum this game” line as scum before.

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I don’t think I did claim you town read me.

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Oh, I get what you’re saying now.

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Anyone that's played with boon before knows that's not his real role.

@Mulch.

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I have my reasons. Don’t worry. It’ll all come out in time. You’ve seen it happen before.

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I sense a town win. I have too many townreads

It’s a little rough for scum this game. Town’s pretty stacked. Una’s going to have to step up his hame if he wants to sweep us.

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Also, his game.

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I feel so bad, but Una’s actually scum.

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I feel so bad, but Una’s actually scum.

Still not.

But I'm starting to think you are..

Yes, most scum think they should scum read me at this point.

Also, “waiting for your first true scum roll” Means nothing as you could have gotten it this game.

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I wouldn’t call it stiffly. Was more confused.

The times I have been scum, you hard town read me early, then the paranoia crept on you.

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Boon ur obvious when ur scum

When I 1v1 or in hindsight with insider knowledge, yes. I play to the people, not the individual.

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I'm confused by the early claim. And Boon, why are you calling Una scum and yet voting for Meow?

I’m a hard reaction test player.

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The times I have been scum, you hard town read me early, then the paranoia crept on you.

You also escaped my attention in that Normal because my paranoia was >90% directed towards rb/Eddie..

That was by design. If you notice, I jab a lot. I can get people to self vote pretty easily when I’m scum.

Also, Mulch, it doesn’t matter if I’m obvious when I’m scum if I dont get lynched.

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Boon ur obvious when ur scum

Didn’t help last time, did it?

It just benefits me to be honest if you can read me well. You’re good to have to protect me when i’m town.

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Also, @Mulch, you hard town read me in Penguin’s game, but got my partners. In Why’s game, you town read my partner, and scum read me and hard paired me up with some townies. That’s your next step for reading me. My distancing tricks.

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Kitty is probably town.

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Kitty is probably town.

Texcat?
For poking their head in?

Yep.

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UNVOTE: boon

Sorry for low activity so far. Moved in a new room mate yesterday.

Those few posts by una pinged me but ill hold off voting for now

Why?

I imagine because his last roommate moved out.

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Could ask Una the same thing about me.

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Altho fykus early "not trusting Boon again" comment made me think maybe town

I would agree with this, but he could be saying it as scum. He just hard town read me in our last game, and we lynched him in 5p lylo.

Also, @Fykus, I didn’t dismiss Una. Una’s likely scum.

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Your response was scummy. The three people on you are all people who can read me, and two of them were on me. I believe I had 5 on me? Maybe 4.

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meow is probably town tbh

Nah, he’s probably scum. He turned an RVS wagon into a pseudo real one in an incredibly opportunistic way.

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i don't think me boon or mulch are scummy it's just no one knows our metas

You can’t put yourself there.

annoyingly that leans towards Town dunker.

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i don't think me boon or mulch are scummy it's just no one knows our metas

You can’t put yourself there.

annoyingly that leans towards Town dunker.

What

I don’t think dunker would have said that as scum. I honestly don’t.
You know I go incredibly strong with my reads early game, then reevaluate afterwards. I like to figure out who is town more than figure out who is scum early game. Helps me game solve, as there’s generally not enough evidence early game for me to accurately game solve until someone does something out of the ordinary.

I’m really just here early game waiting to pounce on scum and give them that Third Degree Boon.

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@Mulch - he’s trying to discredit you over Pisskop and massive, because the two of them expressed interest or didn’t rule out ScumBoon. He’s pushing me as scum, so it makes sense to poke at you over the other two.

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Why mine in particular

Oh I agree boon. I meant the "you can't put you there"

Oh. Because it’s just the same as if he were scum stating “I don’t think I’m scummy”

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I also had 21 players. But generally I wouldn’t think that 15-3-3 is unbalanced. 12-3-3 could work, but it’s probably just 4-14. Or 14-3-1

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I think Ras is likely town for that push on Mulch. I don’t think Mulch is scum, though, but I got the case.

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Ok, I really like the train of thought your going with this. I'm gonna put you as town

I can see all the ways your going for this, and a lot of your ideas I had too when I was a much less experienced player (no offense intended).

This is probably gonna set you over the edge though

I don’t think it’s an experience thing. He has a 2015 join date. The case made sense. There’s no denying it. The only thing stopping that from being something a lot of us would follow through on is the question, “Would Mulch be doing that as town?” That answer...is yes. So it kind of makes the case turn into circular reasoning.

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I don’t necessarily think Mulch is too familiar with pisskop and massive, though. Which also changes the case, but I get why that could be seen.

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He’s already voting Meow, I thought?

Also, I’m more town on massive, and on the not sure on Pisskop as of right now.

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Especially this early. I haven’t explained most of my reads. Why is Mulch being singled out?

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Hmm.

Mulch, are you scum?

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I actually noticed how much I started with my posts in my last scum game with, “Honestly,”

Gonna have to adapt that, and start doing that as town, haha.

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1. Because I asked for an explanation and there was never a detailed explanation.

This is a mulch towntell lol

Yeah, Mulch is pretty easy to meta read, I feel. That’s not a bad thing. When town, that’s kind of the best. Sucks when scum, but then once you abuse the fact you’re easy to meta read is when people will start to get forever paranoid and kind of wreck your town game for a bit.

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I’d bus Mulch for fun.

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I’d bus Mulch for fun.

lets do it
VOTE: Mulch

Why? I’m not scum, and neither is he.

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how do you he's not scum if you aren't scum?

Psychic.

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It’s dangerous for scum if the town can actually sort through people and actually gain rapport within each other. Generally don’t have to worry about that in the meta right now, though.

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Mulch, back off NotKnown. He's obv town.

Yeah, but so is Mulch.

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Yeah. If you show up to your mafia thread and you only got one partner, guess what, it's multiball.

FOS

Guy checks in just to throw in a one liner about set up spec? No reads, no gam esolving stuff, no questions, suggestions, scum huntng etc
Pos. scum.

Have you ever played with massive?

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That’s exactly why he wants you vigged...because he doesn’t scum read you.

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I feel like Assemble/Fykus might be scum just by PoE, which is crazy at this point in the game day 1

That would make Meow town probably, though.

I’m generally pretty good st reading both Assemble and Fykus when they are town, and I haven’t raised them up at all yet.

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Upon reread, the shift out of RVS was more of a gradual transition, one Pisskop entered and naked-voted Boon in the middle of. I say this because Mulch and NK15 were engaging each other somewhat seriously from what I can tell, but others were still doing RVS.

I don’t believe that’s where it shifted. I hadn’t really posted besides my initial post in rvs, and I would personally say RVS ended when Meow hopped on my rvs wagon.

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Getting rid of someone who has a good chance of being mislynched is also a good vig shot.

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I was about to come in and push Dunker, but I actually have been getting ScumMoz vibes, so I think he’s just not logically thinking town besides the Moz. This might actually give me opsome more relief on Moz, though.

With how hard people are trying to push off of Meow, indirectly even, I’m thinking we hit scum on Meow.

Dunker’s probably chainsawing, hoping something sticks.

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the idea is nonetheless

to aim it at scum

the best idea would be to not vig me and not lynch me

see?

Fair. I wouldn’t say you’re a strong vig shot anyways. Get the lurker people early nights is generally best. If. A player is active, you can figure out if they’re town or not usually around Day 3.

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this raises an interesting question

of what exactly you think my activity has been prior to the last 3 hours this game

I tend not to care early on in the game. Which is why I try to become more active middle-end of Day 1 after stances have already been taken.

It’s like when you teach new players how to play, and they’re quiet, so they’re actually harder to read than experienced players.

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I was about to come in and push Dunker, but I actually have been getting ScumMoz vibes, so I think he’s just not logically thinking town besides the Moz. This might actually give me opsome more relief on Moz, though.

With how hard people are trying to push off of Meow, indirectly even, I’m thinking we hit scum on Meow.

Dunker’s probably chainsawing, hoping something sticks.

Pretty bad post, Dunker woulden't do that

I’ve been scum with Dunker, and haven’t been wrong on his alignment once.
He is very capable of doing that especially when playing with players he is familiar with.

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He could just be over paranoid of us being scum, sure, but in what world are Moz, Mulch, and Boon the scum team here?

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So yeah, the post you stating ‘pretty bad post’ is a pretty bad post on your part not seeing other side of the tunnel. That’s a big reason i was able to beat you in that 1v1 in Why’s game, and why it absolutely didn’t matter if you knew I was scum or not there.

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Also, people trying to defend/jump on/etc on Meow right now at this stage in the game has nothing to do with their allignment.

I disagree.

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Everything anyone does is from the alignment perspective that they know they are, even if it comes off as NAI to everyone else.

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So yeah, the post you stating ‘pretty bad post’ is a pretty bad post on your part not seeing other side of the tunnel. That’s a big reason i was able to beat you in that 1v1 in Why’s game, and why it absolutely didn’t matter if you knew I was scum or not there.

Nah, it was a good post. This seems like town!dunker to me, and also he did hardcore distancing with you as scum, not chainsawing and associating.

He chainsawed hard...don’t know what you’re talking about. Chainsawed and associated.

That was like our intention in that game when I was scum with him.

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Everything anyone does is from the alignment perspective that they know they are, even if it comes off as NAI to everyone else.

Obviously...

But:

Town!meow could be being pushed by scum or defended by scu
Scum!meow could be being bussed by scum or defended by scum

dosen't indicate anything

It does if you actually analyze people’s play.

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Might not be able to now, but it definitely can be important for later. I use that stuff so much late game.

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Even mapping out people’s trajectories Day 1 can help so much on that kind of thing.

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Might not be able to now, but it definitely can be important for later. I use that stuff so much late game.

Ok, so why are you using it to determine Meow's allignment now?

I’m not using it determine Meow’s. I’m using it to determine the people on meow.

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So yeah, the post you stating ‘pretty bad post’ is a pretty bad post on your part not seeing other side of the tunnel. That’s a big reason i was able to beat you in that 1v1 in Why’s game, and why it absolutely didn’t matter if you knew I was scum or not there.

Nah, it was a good post. This seems like town!dunker to me, and also he did hardcore distancing with you as scum, not chainsawing and associating.

He chainsawed hard...don’t know what you’re talking about. Chainsawed and associated.

That was like our intention in that game when I was scum with him.

In a distancing way lol

I didn’t say he didn’t distance. I said he chainsawed and associated, which you said he didn’t, and now you implied he did do that, but in a distancing way.

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Now quit copying my play style with all these strong early town reads.

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Also, Mulch, it’s really scummy on your part to call out posts like that when you know I’m incredibly an all in reaction test player, and don’t care about Day 1’s.

Sadly, I believe you wouldn’t even think about that, and still lean town on you.

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Also, Dunker has seen me as both scum and town, commented on how that’s not my real role when I claimed, when that is almost strictly a town move by me.

He’s pointed out town meta on me, and then flipped it when I hadn’t even really posted anything.

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I’m just saying, if I’m correct on Meow and Dunker here, someone better nominate me for that mafia catching thing.

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Might not be able to now, but it definitely can be important for later. I use that stuff so much late game.

Ok, so why are you using it to determine Meow's allignment now?

I’m not using it determine Meow’s. I’m using it to determine the people on meow.

Can you say what you mean? Like I genuinely don't understand how people's reactions around Meow can determine any allignment right now...

You can literally analyze any post. As town, why did so and so say this? Could he say this as scum? Yes? Why would he say it as scum? To post something? To act like he’s town? How did said person respond to others after this? Is he playing to survive or is he hunting?

That’s why in the last game when you called one of my posts pointless, I hard disagree and still disagree. Absolutely none of my posts are pointless as either alignment, because I use it to either create discussion or to see how people respond to anything, even shit posts. I seek out the trajectories of people and see if what they say matches up to what they are trying to accomplish.

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I said he chainsawed and associated, which you said he didn’t, and now you implied he did do that, but in a distancing way.

Chainsawing is the opposite of associating with town. It associates you with your scum partners

And we were in a 2v2 in that game, where three of those members were scum. We were purposefully trying to get Dunker associated with our partner by chainsawing.

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Ur seeming scummier boon, your saying I'm scummy for non scummy things which is what you do as scum...

I said I’m town reading you.

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Also, Mulch, it’s really scummy on your part to call out posts like that when you know I’m incredibly an all in reaction test player, and don’t care about Day 1’s.

Sadly, I believe you wouldn’t even think about that, and still lean town on you.

Ur seeming scummier boon, your saying I'm scummy for non scummy things which is what you do as scum...

You’re just paranoid of me now. In actuality, I’m actually just trying to get us on the same page. If you think I’d try to pocket you as scum, then sure.

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Anyways I think this is just a theory disagreement. Probably. But ur not strong town anymore, only lean town

Good. I hate when people strong town read me. Even if they strong town read me, they should never state it.

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Ur seeming scummier boon, your saying I'm scummy for non scummy things which is what you do as scum...

I said I’m town reading you.

Yeah but you said calling you out was sucmmy because I should "know your meta" which is exactly what you did in WhyMafia's game

Yeah, and I played exactly how I would have had you done that to me and I was town because you state you know my meta than play in a way which shows you think it’s something else. I posted that in the scum thread there.

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Ur seeming scummier boon, your saying I'm scummy for non scummy things which is what you do as scum...

And you were fucking scummy as hell in Why’s game, so I don’t know what you’re talking about with the non scummy.

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>strong early town reads
>copying a playstyle

boon pls

Please what? You’ve never played with me, and that’s what i do. I literally play with everyone town until they’re not mentality, and I have loads of town reads generally Day 1. Mulch doing that makes me lean town on him, but he is playing like I do as town, which is another reason i think he’s town.

So stop being ignorant with the Boon pls.

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Also, Mulch, it’s really scummy on your part to call out posts like that when you know I’m incredibly an all in reaction test player, and don’t care about Day 1’s.

Sadly, I believe you wouldn’t even think about that, and still lean town on you.

Ur seeming scummier boon, your saying I'm scummy for non scummy things which is what you do as scum...

You’re just paranoid of me now. In actuality, I’m actually just trying to get us on the same page. If you think I’d try to pocket you as scum, then sure.

It crossed my mind...

Sure. That makes sense. I’d be paranoid of me pocketing people too. But do you think it would be smart of me to outwardly try to pocket you here? I don’t think that would ever work, or be worth it because your paranoia would always be there and you are a wildcard.

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never have and I'm not saying you don't do it
can still make fun of you saying it's something people copy from you

I didn’t say people. I said Mulch. His play this game is literally eerily similar. he’s still Mulch doing his Mulch thing.

I’ve been having some pretty damn good town games recently, too.

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Fykus/Assemble - speak your minds. I haven’t been able to read you guys yet.

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I already said that.

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Why did it turn from you normally stating that we’re scum to tinfoil?

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over the last 3 pages?
i still scumread you guys normally im just theorizing

If you think we are scum normally, the team of us isn’t tin foil.

These are fabricated reads.

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Like, Rask isn’t wrong at all.

But it’s page 20, he doesn’t really have to explain why he thinks people are town too much, as no matter what, it’s implied taken with a grain of salt. If he still feels that way later game, then he should be able to explain it much better.

Now, if Mulch was scum reading someone yelling at people to sheep him without giving reasons, sure, then we’d have some issues.

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over the last 3 pages?
i still scumread you guys normally im just theorizing

If you think we are scum normally, the team of us isn’t tin foil.

These are fabricated reads.

i'm just saying thoughts man.
one thing i will say is normally you don't care if you are being scumread, like you don't really seem to care at all. this isn't normal town you imo
maybe this is just confbias, but idk.

Where have I cared about being scum read this game? I’m not caring that you are scum reading me by any means, but the reads you have made are fabricated.

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How was Fykus’ first post good? That easily can be said from a scum perspective and still have basically the exact same meaning. It’s NAI 100%, and we won’t know what it truly is until he flips.

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@Dunker - I’ve already done my whole claiming/fake claiming business super early, show me a game where I did that as scum. Specifically the hopping around potentially claiming.

I might have done it, but not sure, I want you to post why that leads to a scum boon rather than a town Boon. Because to me it seemed like you brought up town meta on me then decided to flip it to your convenience.

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How was Fykus’ first post good? That easily can be said from a scum perspective and still have basically the exact same meaning. It’s NAI 100%, and we won’t know what it truly is until he flips.

Gave me good gut vibes

I reread Fykus this game recently when I realized I wanted more from him and assemble, and I think his unvote and not voting anywhere leads towards a town Fykus. Thoughts?

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I just don’t really see scum incentive for unvoting instead of just staying on me.

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He brought up town meta?

Dunker? After my claim he brought up a thing about why it’s likely not my actual role, and that’s a thing I generally do as town, and where he has only seen me do as town. Sure, I technically could do that as scum, but that’s not what was stated.

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He didn’t state it was town or scum meta, but the info he has on that subject of me has been strictly town, if that makes sense.

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Sure I feel you. Kind of think it'd irrelevant though. Unless he tried to push you on it

Again, I don’t think anything is ever irrelevant. Even NAI aren’t irrelevant, as they can become AI through piecing it together later in game.

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Sure I feel you. Kind of think it'd irrelevant though. Unless he tried to push you on it

I feel he used a town meta on me, and regardless of that fact, pushes me to fit his agenda because discrediting us now and causing a divide benefits scum.

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Una hasn’t posted.

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Since that last time.

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I self meta more as town than scum, but yeah, it’s NAI. People just scum read it because it’s annoying and always true when I do it.

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Something wonky is going on with Fykus/Una/Boon. I bet there are 2 town and 1 scum there.

I mean, Una is scum.

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Something wonky is going on with Fykus/Una/Boon. I bet there are 2 town and 1 scum there.

I mean, Una is scum.

Unless something clicked with Fykus and he’s going next level, and bailing out Meow with an Una push.

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Something wonky is going on with Fykus/Una/Boon. I bet there are 2 town and 1 scum there.

I mean, Una is scum.

Unless something clicked with Fykus and he’s going next level, and bailing out Meow with an Una push.

Not sure if i should be offended or not lol

You said it yourself before you suck at scum basically.

You have the capability of obv towning so hard because of that, though. Which is good if you’re town.

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That wagon seems to be one that started as rvs and then ended up sticking so im not sure what the case on meow is. Could you explain it for me so i can reconsider my being on it or not please

It didn’t start as RVS,though.

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My wagon was the RVS wagon, and Meow was scummy as hell onto me.

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@Dunker - I’ve already done my whole claiming/fake claiming business super early, show me a game where I did that as scum. Specifically the hopping around potentially claiming.

I might have done it, but not sure, I want you to post why that leads to a scum boon rather than a town Boon. Because to me it seemed like you brought up town meta on me then decided to flip it to your convenience.

there's this thing called manipulating your meta
not saying you're doing it, just saying it's a possibly
just cause you play to certain aspect of you town meta doesnt mean you're lock town

But that’s not what was brought up. Yes, that could be a thing, but that isn’t what was happening or what was being pushed.

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I answered. It’s how he opportunistically jumped on my rvs wagon.

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I answered. It’s how he opportunistically jumped on my rvs wagon.

It wasn’t opportunistic at all. You can’t even be opportunistic in RvS

It wasn’t rvs at that point. That’s when it effectively left rvs.

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Particulars that point towards him being scum.

It wasn’t RVS style, he pointed it out as being serious, I believe, and if he didn’t, it was implied as not RVS.

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That’s my case for seeing Meow as scum, along with POE, if you talk me out of that being a reason, I’ll end up going elsewhere.

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Cases are for scum. Your best play is when you don’t use cases and you ley reads form naturally

I disagree. Scum can make cases, but it’s easy to wreck scum making a case on town if they didn’t account for trajectory.

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I’m never going to listen to someone who just says, “I have gut read on scum here. Sheep me.” Without actually having that sense myself.

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https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... TermsOfArt

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Lot of words to just basicAlly say whether something is natural or not

I guess. It’s a lot more than that, and has helped both my scum game and town game once I really started to understand it.

It also helps explain those gut reads.

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Xandroj could be a great wagon. Thoughts?

I’m so paranoid of Mulch right now. I feel I shouldn’t be town reading him. Paranoia in mafia is the worst.

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VLA until Friday. Full week ahead on set out of town. I’ll be able to get some time in on commutes and whatnot. But I’ll likely be tired out everyday. I shouldn’t ever hit prod range.

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Wait, are we talking about BooneyToonz and his loyalvig guilty? Didn’t Dunker end up on Mulch’s side after?

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I wouldn’t say it’s random. I feel like there’s a distinct difference between his scum game and town game. He asks a lot of pointless question, and kind of aggressively when he’s scum, but posts about the same. He might have been able to change it up, but I’m not necessarily seeing his posts as “forced”.

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I don’t know what I think of Jordan right now. I’ll look at my past games with him, because I feel like I always tend to misread him and then mislynch him. It could be the other way around, though, but Mulch is making me overly paranoid right now, so I’m going to try to read Mulch off of reading other players.

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I think I like Una for town now, though.

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so I’m going to try to read Mulch off of reading other players.

Which dosen't work.

It does if I POE and figure out if i think Jordan is a mislynch or not, and if you’re the one pushing the scum agenda or town tunneling, but if something pings me on the side, like if I see scum trying to take advantage of your push on Jordan, then I would probably be more comfortable town reading you. However, Una is in that spot that I just stated, but I do see TownUna there because of it. Yes, this does imply I am lean towning on Jordan.

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I think I like Una for town now, though.

I can see this. Uh, but he also has fooled me in the past so *shrug*

He’s never fooled me, though.

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I can see this. Uh, but he also has fooled me in the past so *shrug*

When?
I haven't really rolled scum on this site yet..

Being Traitor doesn't count, and you know how good I am at that.

I think if anyone should know “how good you are” at traitor, it should be me.

@Mulch - I might be wrong with what I remember of him, and when I’m not on set, I’ll do some more meta diving, but I feel like I’ve seen this happen to him before. None of what he’s done really stands out to me as AI, and if anything, it leans more town to me. I’m not really sure why people are hard scum reading him. It kind of seems like a scape goat. But he hasn’t been very active, so I understand some pressure on him, but I don’t want it to lead to a claim.

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And why are you leaning town on him?

More specifically, why are you so confident with him being town that you would be willing to townread me if you think there are people jumping opportunistically on it? Why don't you think it could have been ME that was being opportunistic scum? Or that Xandroj is scum and there are town jumping on it?

I do think that is a possibility. It’s why I’m increasingly becoming more paranoid of you, but I know that town you would do the situations I stated as well, which is why i cant figure out which one it is, which is why I have doubts on Jordan even more, if that makes sense. I’ve seen you tunnel town and scum this way when you’re town, actually, I feel like I’ve seen you town tunnel town more than you tunneling scum. To be fair, I feel you’ve given more on this than you usually do, so I don’t know if that’s you upping your town game or scum who can make cases better than you can as town. So that’s where I am with my paranoia on you. I really have no clue.

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I don’t believe I posted my VLA here. I will have limited access until Friday, likely.

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My apartment complex partly burned down, but for the most part, it survived. But the area is fucked and dangerous with looters and whatnot, with the power lines getting wrecked, and no water...so I can’t go home for a bit.

My friend is letting me stay at her house for a little while, so I will have time to catch up and what not, probably tomorrow.

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VOTE: UnaBombah[/b]

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VOTE: UnaBombah[/b]

VOTE: UnaBombah

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VOTE: Unabombah

I’m done...-.-

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@ boon - why? where's that vote come from?

Because by all means, I wanted to vote for you, but there’s a nagging sensation that I feel you’re town.

I’m highly against this massive wagon.

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And I still don’t think Jordan is scum.

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Una, Acid, and Not Known are on those wagons, and even if massive was scum, I would say one of those three are scum. I’m leaning towards Una.

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Acid is town. Also boon that last post was shit, you just tried to undo a wagon by saying people on it are scum and then said the allignment of the person does not matter if they are scum.


Vote Jordan

I mean, I’d been saying I thought Jordan was a mislynch even before I went inactive. And I am one of the best people at reading massive, I feel, and i don’t think he’s scum this game. And if he is, I’ll be able to figure that out, but right now, this is pretty standard town massive.

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I feel I bring this up with you every game, Mulch...

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I said that even if Massive was scum, scum would still be busing in that scenario.

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Well, the argument Mulch gave to their idea of acid being town was "meta", without any further explanation.

How exactly do you want me to dscribe meta? It's a vibe thing

Meta isn’t really “a vibe thing”. It’s generally pretty standard to be able to explain meta, or else it’s just a familiarity with the player thing.faniliarity, I guess, is similar, though. I’ll give you that one.

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I’m still pretty accurate with my Day 1 reads, specifically my town reads.

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VOTE: Mozamis

Not Jordan.

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Also, Dunker is town. Solid on that one completely now.

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VOTE: Unabombah

If you don’t want Moz, follow me here.

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would you believe he’s my mason buddy?

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would you believe he’s my mason buddy?

No

Well...on you guys from there!

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Just remember...the answer to your question...is Mozamis.

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Are you hardclaiming Mason buddies?

That’s the only kind of claiming I do!

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Are you hardclaiming Mason buddies?

That’s the only kind of claiming I do!

No, seriously. Are you masons?

Hi, my name is mason. Don’t lynch Jeff.

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And by Jeff I mean Jordan.

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I don’t. Good chance he is a mason.

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Enough reasonable doubt to now go Una instead.

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James is Meow slot, right? Can we lynch him over my potential mason buddy?

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But yes. You’re right. I am sure of myself. Because that’s my town game for you...that damn good. And arrogant, so even if it’s wrong, I adapt. I’m like a boiling liquid.

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I don’t scum read you because you don’t agree with said player. I scum read you for pushing a hard scum agenda and attempting to discredit a group of players that are likely tall town.

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VOTE: James

I’m on an anyone but Jordan/massive, and meow was my old choice, so this helps a lot.

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I’m fighting Mulch hard on Jordan lynch. It’s a mislynch.

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I’ve unfortunately seen him tunnel town before, and seen him hit scum on my null reads that I’ve protected before. I don’t believe that he’s ever hit scum on someone I town read, though, unless he was scum.

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Which is part of why Mulch seems suspect to me. Why is he SO sure that Xand is the mafia?
Right now, I'm sheeping, but concerned that this may turn out bad for us.

why are you sheeting if concerned this might turn out bad for us and you are suspicious of Mulch? That doesn’t make sense.

Seems like you are on the wagon, knowing it’s town, and want to help push the wagon along, but also show that you had doubts about it for mediocre town cred.

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Mulch is always seems so sure, either alignment, whether wrong or right.

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My question was never answered, though.

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Sheeting was sheeping. Yes.

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Nah. If he was scum, you look more like the busses than Mulch. Why would Mulch push him so hard right now if thye were buddies, when he easily could push elsewhere and stop his buddies lynch?

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But I feel like Mulch is the one who caused the Jordan wagon.

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That’s why it doesn’t add up to me.

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I don’t see their reactions as SvS at all, and if they are both scum, it’s kind of poor play, because people will realize it’s true in the late game when they forget about their interactions, so getting rid of one another this early and in this way is poor play. I don’t feel either of them are poor scum players.

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Why can’t mulch be town pushing a towns person?

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That’s exactly what I think is happening.

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That’s exactly what I think is happening.

I think what should happen is that we all jump on the XnadrojX wagon before time runs out and we get a nolynch.
Also, what should happen is that some investigative person looks at Mulch(because Mulch is currently scum for some, and town for others)
Also, what should not happen is that Mulch(not everyone, just mulch) vigs me or james(because that would make them look like a Serial Killer)

I disagree. I think what should happen is we all go on someone other than him before time runs out.

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Mulch is a fine investigative target. In fact. He is the answer. Okay, guys? If only 1, then it’s Mulch.

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Mulch

was

scum?

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Boon, why does James replace scum-Meow and swing for the fences? There are players I can see doing that but let's take James at face value. Does newbscum-James really attack this hard?

Yeah, you’re right. I just don’t want Jordan lynched.

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VOTE: Xnad

Better to lynch than no lynch. :/

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idk but i swear your self meta was not caring about being scumread
or i'm getting mixed up with you and boon.
anyways i already compromised, why are you pushing me if you townread me?
do you still townread me?

My self meta is not caring about being scum read as scum. I say that as town, though, too.

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if this flips town can we lynch you tmr?
or moz

This is flipping town. Can we please lynch elsewhere? It’s very possible.

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VOTE: Mozamis

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I’m absolutely not a big target at this point.

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*vig

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VOTE: Xna

It’s not at all.

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I mean, we were saying Meow was scum...

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so I feel this is definitely scum...

VOTE: Mozamis

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What did Massive claim?

Massive is town.

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VOTE: moz

This dunker kill has really thrown off my reads. Why didnt scum kill within the town bloc?

Because the town block wasn’t a threat because it’s likely not all town, or they weren’t on the right track. Also, Dunker was killed because he was hard on Moz and Mulch, but Mulch is town. Meow dying screwed them over.

Who was the town bloc, again?

Also, Dunker dying didn’t change the pace of the game too much, so scum probably wasn’t okay with where they thought today was going to go.

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I feel like, Mulch, massive, and myself are pretty strong town right now.

One of Una/Not Known are probably town, with the other scum.

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@Mulch - what would you say if I said I tracked you last night?

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He way James and Meow were makes massive town for me. That’s not SvS. Massive doesn’t play it that way either.

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Oh, I forgot about that post. I don’t know if massive would defend his partner like that as much, but it definitely lowers my town read on massive while simultaneously making me lean scum on Wave, but like...a paranoia lean scum.

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Mozamis is town

Why?

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Guys, can we do a thing? There was a JK and a Mafia Roleblocker flipped last night.

Can everyone say either “Result” or “No Result” based on if you didn’t get a Result last night.

However, if you are Vanilla Town or a role that wouldn’t necessarily get a result, like...a doctor or whatnot, say result. This protects any potential PR’s and conf town’s a couple people potentially. It’ll out like...a PR probably, but I think I can catch out a scum by doing this.

Vig/SK/whatever caused the mafia death, you would say Result, as well, since you know you got a result.

So VT’s and roles that get something say result.

RESULT

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Roles that don’t get anything say RESULT too.

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Basically, if you didn’t get a NO RESULT at night, say RESULT no matter what.

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boon why

this is 100% guaranteed to out anyone who says no result

I’m already an outed PR. They’re safe, especially because Vig will be staying Result, so that’s hidden.

Like, I have a reason, but it doesn’t work if I state it before people state Result or No Result.

I’m trying not to mass claim, even though I would happily want that right now. Haha.

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I don't get it

Doesn't that mean like 14 people will say result and the rest are the PR's...

There’s a potential that everybody says RESULT, though.

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Yes, it will out a potential PR, but there’s already a couple softs out there anyways.

It also limits scum fakes and whatnot later.

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anyone who is a pr and says no result is outing themself as pr

if everyone got results it doesn't hurt it but who cares about knowing the roleblocker and jk roleblocked vts/goons

Like, I’m obviously a PR trying to do something. I’m dying here.

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This is a wonky setup and I like it.

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So this is basically a glorified mass claim with the slight possibility of confusing the mafia into fucking up. Your not slick boon

It’s a middle point, yes. But we don’t have to out everything, or say what the roles are, but it essentially does the same thing for what I need. I can catch scum or get like two conf townies out of this, and not have a false inno potentially.

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I wouldn’t say a glorified mass claim, as a limited claiming situation.

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One of them could be a mafia power role blocked by dunker...

Which helps tremendously too.

Like, I can conf town myself with potentially two others with this.

I’m dying.

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I can potentially catch out a scum who lies about it too.