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Town
Brian Skies - The pinnacle of what obvtown should be.
Less Town
andriod18 - Can't even spell its own name.
Katsuki - Who doesn't like cupcakes?
Somewhat Town
Wisdom - One of the more underrated D&D stats.
mastina - Might get herself lynched anyway.
Human Sequencer - Somebody has to defend the RVS.
grapes - The Mod felt the need to confirm something from him for whatever reason.
No Idea
Purrcocet - Is this supposed to be a floating cat head?
Ginngie - Pick a color.
Nosferatu - Colors are hard.
Moment - No idea.
Dunnstral - No idea.
A Little Scummy
Kokichi Oma - Danganronpa.
Less Scummy
zMuffinMan - Just look at that avatar.
Scum
Nancy Drew 39 - What happened to the other 38 of them?
Kaede Akamatsu - Danganronpa.
hebichan - The most pretentious Pokemon.
VOTE: Kaede Akamatsu-
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Brian Skies - The pinnacle of what obvscum should be.
Less Scum
andriod18 - That misspelling is an act of pure villainy.
Katsuki - Cupcakes make you fat.
Somewhat Scummy
Wisdom - D&D players dump this for a reason.
mastina - Might get herself lynched anyway.
Human Sequencer - RVS is overrated.
grapes - Never trust the Mod.
No Idea
Purrcocet - Is this supposed to be a floating cat head?
Ginngie - Pick a color.
Nosferatu - Colors are hard.
Moment - No idea.
Dunnstral - No idea.
A Little Town
Kokichi Oma - Danganronpa.
Less Town
zMuffinMan - Just look at that avatar.
Town
Nancy Drew 39 - Maybe she's just old.
Kaede Akamatsu - Danganronpa.
hebichan -Still a snake.
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This is hilariously fallacious, but sure, I can vote Cupcake for you.In post 16, zMuffinMan wrote:if i had to guess who's scum with him atm, i'd guess one person in {Purrcocet, Dunnstral, Brian Skies} and one person in {Human Sequencer, grapes, Kokichi Oma, Nosferatu} just because that's how i'd expect random distribution of alignment across the player list. it's unlikely that there's scum in {Nancy Drew 39, Wisdom} because they're directly above and below him in the player list respectively and that seems like a highly unlikely thing to happen when you randomise alignments
Please be town this time.
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I believe you!In post 34, zMuffinMan wrote:
if you believe it to be true, nothing is impossible. don't let my actual alignment get in the way of thingsIn post 20, Brian Skies wrote:Please be town this time.
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Limitations only exist if you let them.
Also, nobody claimed this, so...?-
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I see.
But how does this stop the rest of us from voting?-
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It's a minor setback.In post 56, Human Sequencer wrote:i guess we can vote but i don't really see the point
just makes a potential mess when all of our votes suddenly do get counted
We will just have to revote. Since the original votes didn't count anyway, how does it become a mess?-
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I don't understand this.In post 61, Human Sequencer wrote:I'm assuming all of our votes that weren't counted will suddenly become counted when he does vote.
If they aren't then I don't see the point of it even more
If the original votes do end up being counted, then how does this make votingright nowpointless?-
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I assume Grapes will hold off on voting for the next 5 days, probably for his hypothetical ability.
If he holds our ability to lynch hostage and we end up No Lynching today, the game will proceed as normal starting Day 2 anyway. In the event this happens, there is a non-zero chance that we have the Roleblocking Vigilante in the sample PM and it can make him pay for his foolish transgressions.
So, what is your issue again?-
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You clearly do have an issue, since you're trying to argue that you think voting right now is pointless.In post 68, Human Sequencer wrote:i don't really see the relevancy of what you're saying to what I'm saying, but it brings up things I hadn't considered
firstly grapes =/= kochiki
secondly when you ask "what is your issue again" you assume I have an issue
could you elaborate on what that "issue" is?
issue with other people voting? if so, I was under the impression people were voting as muffinman was, who hadn't read the rule and were assuming their votes were being counted
if people are aware their votes aren't being counted, I don't really care nor do I have an issue
I guess I had Grapes and Kochiki merged for w/e reason. I still don't see how Grapes holding our lynch hostage is that big of a deal.-
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Just to be clear, I never said you were making a big deal about it.In post 71, Human Sequencer wrote:you're assuming I have an issue or problem with things I don't
An issue, by definition, just means a personal problem or difficulty.
Which I do believe you have (or had).
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What is the point to having him selfvote for you?In post 50, Dunnstral wrote:Hey grapes, I have a proposal, once you decide to start the voting, can the first vote you place be on yourself, followed up by you switching to your real vote?-
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I'm not ready for such responsibility. If, however, you'd like me to temporarily turn you into a doublevoter until I figure out what I want to do with my vote, then sure, I can help you (us) push things.In post 164, zMuffinMan wrote:brian, would you like to hydra with me this game? you can control our (your) vote, but we discuss where it goes as a team (in our hydra PT - aka this thread). that way my vote can remain on cupcake but i'll still feel like i'm participating in this game
i currently think we (you) should vote kaede. thoughts?
and thoughts on the rest of the game?
Kaede? Sure.
VOTE: Cupcake
I think Dunn is a little scummy. HS/Moment probably town? I might have some actual developed thoughts for you tomorrow after I get more time to read what's been said.-
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1) YesIn post 114, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:1) FakeGod has in fact used a role that has been present on several players but effective at different game days for each, 2) hence seeing a D3 IC is not something outside what he would do
2) I don't know if we're referencing the same game as in 1, as the one I'm thinking of didn't have a D3 IC, so I'm not understanding the conclusion you're drawing here-
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Do you have prior experience with roles like this? Because this is such a strange thing to be worried about, and even if Grapes did have some sort of special first-time voting power, why was your immediate request to have him waste it on himself?In post 147, Dunnstral wrote:
Theorizing that your vote may have additional powers on your first vote if you're scum (while your role is strong enough stand-alone if town) so by self voting first vote you remove that bit of doubtIn post 111, grapes wrote:Sure thing but i wanna hear dunn's angle first-
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In post 170, zMuffinMan wrote:kinda taking the mason claims (mastina, cupcake) at face value for now so leaving them alone
If you think they're claiming masons, then sure, I don't mind leaving them alone.In post 171, zMuffinMan wrote:not masons, IC, but same diff
However, I don't understand why you want to take their claims at face value.
In the same vein as your novice reflexive fruit vendor, they are probably making fake claims in some capacity reminiscent of A Nightingale's Tale. I think Mastina is probably actually being somewhat serious about her role (because she usually is regardless of her alignment), but katsuki is pretty untrustworthy in general, and Day 5 Innocent Child wasmyfakeclaim in that game.
Like, it wouldn't surprise me if Kats is making that claim just to take a jab at you recycling your claim earlier (to which I did recognize based onSakura'sKaede's post, I just doubted FG would give you the same role twice and wasn't taking you seriously).
Okay.In post 170, zMuffinMan wrote:hs town im ok with
moment probably town yeah but not as sure yet
kokichi seems townish
wisdom and nosferatu and maybe grapes seem townish
Although I mostly only agree on HS/Moment/Nos/grapes.
If you think hebi is scum, then I guess I can see why you might think the andriod is town. But I think hebi has a tendency to look bad (not that I'm saying I think she's town, just that she's an easy target). I could make the argument that andriod's tryhard posting is more likely to come from town, but I don't actually believe this is the case.In post 170, zMuffinMan wrote:andriod seems town-
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I still don't know our password.In post 198, Katsuki wrote:wow rly bs?
Look how sad they look! Think of all the good times we had! D:
Muffins is clearly an evil scumlord corrupting the pure-hearted innocent townspeople of our land.
VOTE: MUFFINS
But, I don't think relying on Sprinkled Delight worked out so well for you last time, so why do you think it would here?-
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I have one prepared, although it isn't the same one I originally used.In post 245, zMuffinMan wrote:that reminds me
we need to come up with a hydra name for this game
im thinking isaac and miria
but i need you to change your avatar back for that to work-
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Like, you've seen me do this before, and I wasn't copying you then. So why do you still think I'm copying you now. Lol.In post 227, mastina wrote:Normally I'd say that you can't steal my gimmick, but given that my gameplan this game is to just mess around all of D1 and D2 until I'm conftown on D3 (by the way that D3 Innocent Child claim? Not a joke.), I'll allow it.-
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Or they'll just do to you what they did to me and vanillarize-neighborize you.In post 228, mastina wrote:(Btw this would be one of the reasons why I'm intending to basically do nothing for two gamedays. I WANT people to doubt me. Because doubt keeps me alive until that point, at which I can just pull the trigger, and then suddenly, BAM! Conftown, will reveal the reads I've had the whole time but been keeping semi-secret, and from there fuck the scum over. They'll never know what hit 'em.)-
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Hey Dunn!In post 232, Brian Skies wrote:
Do you have prior experience with roles like this? Because this is such a strange thing to be worried about, and even if Grapes did have some sort of special first-time voting power, why was your immediate request to have him waste it on himself?In post 147, Dunnstral wrote:
Theorizing that your vote may have additional powers on your first vote if you're scum (while your role is strong enough stand-alone if town) so by self voting first vote you remove that bit of doubtIn post 111, grapes wrote:Sure thing but i wanna hear dunn's angle first
I asked you a question.Two in fact.-
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I can't tell if you're serious about your claim or admitting to mimicking me.In post 303, Katsuki wrote:
Oh wow I totally didn't realize muffins did that!In post 240, Brian Skies wrote: In the same vein as your novice reflexive fruit vendor, they are probably making fake claims in some capacity reminiscent of A Nightingale's Tale. I think Mastina is probably actually being somewhat serious about her role (because she usually is regardless of her alignment), but katsuki is pretty untrustworthy in general, and Day 5 Innocent Child wasmyfakeclaim in that game.
The bit about me being untrustworthy hurts though ;_;
Don't blame me, blame the moderator.
It isn't that important right now, and you didn't answer the question. >.>In post 304, Katsuki wrote:btw i forget what the pw is too but can probably dig that up if you want-
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How so?In post 362, zMuffinMan wrote:
the language here is interestingIn post 356, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I think at least one of Dunn, Nos, Kat is possibly a wolf-
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She followed up on this and scumread Dunn though.In post 372, zMuffinMan wrote:or why she picked three names and made no conclusion about which one she thought was most likely or anything-
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Oh, you're right.In post 375, zMuffinMan wrote:
not really, but i suppose you could argue she didIn post 373, Brian Skies wrote:She followed up on this and scumread Dunn though.
Still don't really have an issue with that in particular, and like Ginngie said, she could still be working through it?-
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In post 372, zMuffinMan wrote:such as why she didn't include kaede or why she picked three names and made no conclusion about which one she thought was most likely or anythingIn post 356, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Looking at the votes on me, I dislike Dunnstral’s ISO the most.I think at least one of Dunn, Nos, Kat is possibly a wolf.In post 359, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Dunn’s ISO seems to be full of weird posts, like demanding Grape self-vote (trying to hard to look town), Insisting, rather than speculating that Mastina’s claim has to be fake and aggressively pushing Wisdom lynch. All of this before opportunistically sheeping onto my wagon.-
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In post 385, zMuffinMan wrote:
what do you think of post #363 (both in the context of what you just said and just as a general post)?In post 367, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Do you think I’m incorrect about this and that my wagon is 100% town? Because that would definitely be a first
It's a very confusing post.In post 363, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
If you truly believe this then why is your vote still on me? Maybe you aren’t the wolf on my wagon? But why would you be so quick to vote me then?In post 352, Dunnstral wrote:
Don't overestimate usIn post 349, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:assuming town is smart enough to not mislynch me
However, if I break it down, I assume what Dunn intends to mean is that if Nancy is indeed town, that he doesn't really think town should be expected to realize that she could be a bad lynch and not mislynch her.
Her immediate reaction seems fine, as she questions the sentiment, especially if Nancy thinks Dunn admitted to thinking she's mislynch bait. The third question follows up on her suspicion. The big issue I have is the second question, because it has this weird conflict where she considers him to be town, and I don't know why it's there.-
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I'm okay with these reads.In post 394, zMuffinMan wrote:i don't particularly feel like breaking this down into very minor details and explaining specifically what i don't like, so i will just float this out there and you can say whether you see why i might think this:
i currently think the most likely scum team is nancy-kaede-ginngie
subject to change on a whim if i feel like it
My lynchpool is currently <Dunn, Hebi, Kaede, Nancy> with Ginn as a 'meh' read. Hebi I still think is an easy target. I do think Ginn's reaction to Moment is a little overblown.
Spoiler: Actual List of Reads That I'm Still Working On-
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Because it would make her look bad?In post 402, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I don’t see how Kaede would have ever unvoted me if she were scum. Why wouldn’t she want to mislynch the lhf?-
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In post 407, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
Because she doesn’t want to mislynch.In post 403, Brian Skies wrote:
Because it would make her look bad?In post 402, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I don’t see how Kaede would have ever unvoted me if she were scum. Why wouldn’t she want to mislynch the lhf?
Okay, so like, this wasn't me saying Kaede was scum jumping off of you because she's scum trying to avoid your wagon. Possible, but not what I was saying.In post 408, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
What evidence is there in her ISO that makes you think she even cares how she looks?In post 403, Brian Skies wrote:
Because it would make her look bad?In post 402, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I don’t see how Kaede would have ever unvoted me if she were scum. Why wouldn’t she want to mislynch the lhf?
It was me giving an example of why, if she were scum, and you were actually town here (which I don't know and isn't even my current stance on you, which should be evidenced by me still voting you), that scum Kaedecouldhave unvoted there. If this is still unclear to you, then let me know, because there is a difference.
Secondly, why does it matter if there's evidence in Kaede's iso on how she cares she looks? Scum do care how they look, and many town also care about how they look, but who cares? Yes, scum do sometimes blatantly push bad wagons, but not always, and some are more strategic in how they do it.-
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I liked your interactions with HS regarding your Kaede read. Particularly how you admitted to having history with Kaede and you would try to read her emotions, but that you wouldn't write a dissertation on it.In post 419, Nosferatu wrote:why am I so high? I've been really tuned out of this game, usually a scumtell for me.-
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There is this massive empty space here and I just wanted to let you know how much it bothers me.
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You're also missing someone.In post 482, zMuffinMan wrote:isaac
hs
mastina
moment
kokichi
purr
grapes
andriod
dunnstral
-----LYNCH BELOW THIS LINE----- <-- i want to move this line a couple notches down but i can't in good faith
nosferatu
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hebi
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Just because someone is town, it doesn't mean the people pushing them is scum, but okay.In post 721, Purrcocet wrote:if Nancy Drew 39 is town moments push on her is super duper sus
BUT THATS JUST MY OPINON-
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This is good, but only because my super secret scumread is in here.In post 809, mastina wrote:I would lynch in Brian Skies/Human Sequencer/Kokichi Oma/Purrcoet/grapes/andriod/Nosferatu.-
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I agree with you.In post 823, mastina wrote:Yeah uh the problem there is...literally every single wagon there except for Kokichi Oma and maybe, maybe, maybe Moment (Moment's an ambivalent read that is thoroughly null) suck.-
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To clarify, I only mean the wagons that aren't mostly based on vanity (Ginn, Moment, Wis, Kats).In post 827, Brian Skies wrote:
I agree with you.In post 823, mastina wrote:Yeah uh the problem there is...literally every single wagon there except for Kokichi Oma and maybe, maybe, maybe Moment (Moment's an ambivalent read that is thoroughly null) suck.-
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I feel like this is very relevant.In post 866, grapes wrote:Half way through she hasn't asked a single good question.
I don't know why, I just do.