SUPP 2017 MAFIA: COMPLETE

Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:49 pm

In post 1307, Punreader wrote:Given this, we can fairly safely assume nobody lied about their scores.

If someone had lied about their scores, I'd be expecting a far greater discrepancy between my calculated scores and the proven scores.

I agree.
got some super spicy stuff in a spreadsheet at home which I'll post once Srceen's slot fills. Idk how to calculate your average exactly though.

Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:08 pm

In post 1318, Chara wrote:so Espeonage is probably higher than Fire, so Fire's claimed role has a reversed cop result. and Fire got a guilty, so his claim in the end is Espeon town after the confusion is all dealt with. is that right?

Yup.

I'll post the table once srceen's results are out and I can reasonably guess the balance but there's like a 2% chance Fire outranked Espe here.

Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:09 pm

also good shout wrt Nico. my interpretation is it wouldn't double hers but
ヽ(｀⌒´)ノ

Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:27 pm

you're #1 like guaranteed lol, by some margin

Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:31 pm

waht I thought mafia was about memeing and making friends

is this why I keep losing?!?

Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:27 pm

Good idea.

Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:03 pm

MANWITHNONAME WELCOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

okay I'm excited now I can finally fix my stupid table and cure my one track mind.

Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:25 pm

just for a fun exercise MWNN would you mind making a few notes about how your reads compare to Srceen's?

his input to the game was a little inconclusive. I can normally sort him reasonably? well and was worried by how null he was here. but I also like to think we work together pretty well so you're high sorting priority for me rn

Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:41 pm

Vax has been cop inno'd now but good call.

Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:33 pm

hold on what?

if you have spicy night action info share it!!!

Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:47 pm

In post 1469, Taly wrote:
In post 1468, ManWithNoName wrote:The people connected by Screenplay were the worst and Taly.
confirming this

Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:35 pm

hardcore not comfortable with this PP wagon but I'm not totally around enough right now to process why it feels wrong or where to go next. Agreed, please do not hammer this.

In post 1472, Taly wrote:I'm underaged in the US so I'm going to need some apple juice in order to think about PP's posts rn.

may I suggest Australia?

Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:36 pm

In post 1473, ManWithNoName wrote:I don't like the claim of a straight guilty when Fire Assassin should have known from the beginning that his role could come with a fake guilty.

This pinged me as well but I get the impression Fire genuinely thought he'd come out better than Espe.

Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:04 pm

I actually liked ActionDan's posting the first time around, and Nahdia struck me as towny!suspiciousness and kept the game moving along nicely.

having said that I like Maria's point above. I'll re-read AD/Nahdia at some point and see if that's the wagon I've been waiting for.

Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:17 pm

Eeehhhh
Not really no

Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:29 pm

In post 1504, Shoshin wrote:the worst, you don't want to lynch PP?

the worst wrote:Eeehhhh
Not really no

Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:34 pm

In post 1474, the worst wrote:hardcore not comfortable with this PP wagon but I'm not totally around enough right now to process why it feels wrong or where to go next. Agreed, please do not hammer this.

In post 1472, Taly wrote:I'm underaged in the US so I'm going to need some apple juice in order to think about PP's posts rn.
may I suggest Australia?

Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:35 pm

18 :3

Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:14 pm

let's do thisssssssss

scores are approximate since the double-weighted scores are not an exact doubling of themselves (evidenced by Pine's slot; to get his average he'd have needed a 0 from Reuben/Lovebird which we know is not correct).
even so these are probably close enough to the actual scores that I'm feeling comfortable.

Position	Name	Rank
1st	Chara	8.29
2nd	the worst	7.19
3rd	Taly	6.71
4th	TehBrawlGuy	6.29
5th	Dunnstral	6.25
6th	Punreader	6.06
7th	Nahdia	6.00
8th	DeasVail	5.56
9th	Espeonage	5.56
10th	Shoshin	5.44
11th	MariaR	5.38
12th	Pine	4.94
13th	ManWithNoName	4.75
14th	Fire Assassin	4.71
15th	Vaxkiller	4.13
16th	PenguinPower	4.06
17th	Lovebird	2.00
18th	NicoRobin	1.63

Spoiler: data tabled (more #aesthetic than useful but....fight me)

Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:15 pm

...the fuck

Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:20 pm

Spoiler: for chara only, no one else look

Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:22 pm

In post 1522, ManWithNoName wrote:
In post 1521, the worst wrote:...the fuck
Huh?

I hadn't really been paying attention to my own rankings. never expected to be 2nd.

Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:39 pm

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step 5: reverse step 1; un-select R1C1 (if you value your sanity in ongoing spreadsheet adventures)

Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:28 am

opened the thread to say I'm starting to wonder if the reasons I was townleaning PP originally were probably NAI in reality and he's actually just scum when I saw Shoshin's case and like

I need someone to tell me if I'm over WIFOMing myself on PP. But if he's scum what actually is his agenda? it kinda feels like he's becoming a compromise lynch just because his reads are out of sync and he was uncomfortable with the gamestate. I get that this could be town or could be scum pushing some bullshit but I just don't get why scum!PP would be doing this.

can like preferably Taly or Chara weigh in and tell me if I'm going mad?

Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:29 am

I think im suffering from Too Many Townreads actually

Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:33 am

I guess so. I felt like I peeked into pp's soul for a second on d1 when I realised how disgruntled with the gamestate he was but that hasn't really lasted and honestly is really NAI

Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:43 am

Fair take. I'm at a loss for whether that comes from town PP or scum PP though.

this is actually looking more coherent than expected. I'm more concerned about certain players than others in that pool right now but I think rn more content will help me a lot.

Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:57 pm

In post 1567, ManWithNoName wrote:
In post 1561, the worst wrote:Fair take. I'm at a loss for whether that comes from town PP or scum PP though.

this is actually looking more coherent than expected. I'm more concerned about certain players than others in that pool right now but I think rn more content will help me a lot.
Where your scumreads at right now if you aren't reading PP as scum?

This is pretty much where I'm at a loss.

I didn't like srceen's contribution a whole lot but I'm gonna take a chance on you for obvious reasons.

Shoshin is bugging the hell out of me. Vaxk was too but is now inno'd. I didn't like Fire but he's a cop so will probs be resolved by night actions.

I liked Maria on play to start off with but I'm not so sure anymore. Also have no idea how to read her accurately.

The ActionDan/Nahdia slot struck me as townish but honestly the cases there are starting to make sense for scum. But this is also s vacant slot rn.

So much limbo.

Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:59 pm

Honestly I'm probably talking myself in circles about PP. I could vote there.

Is he L-1 or L-2?

Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:00 pm

Nvm I want more content

Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:04 pm

can't count higher than 6 tbh, I think you're doing fine.

Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:07 pm

ohey welcome CShep!

Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:58 pm

In post 1631, Commander Shepard wrote:Do you two have any suggestions on what I should read?

Ummmm the thread?
[/sarcasm]

your predecessors are worth having a look at. have a squizz at my recent ISO for a summary of all (known) votes which basically were EOD1 reads. Pun's posting has been pretty informative and an interesting point of view.

Taly is easily the most across the game, his ISO is really long but he's super sharp. Chara too but has been less active

Out to dinner and drinks but throw questions at me if you need

Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:49 pm

2

, 3*, 4, 6, 7, 8*, 11*

Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:52 pm

12 I'm struggling so so much with but I don't want it to be the case.

Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:03 pm

In post 1707, Commander Shepard wrote:
In post 828, Errantparabola wrote:
ViWelcome, NicoRobin.

People care about what you think. To be specific, they're all clamoring to know what you think of them.
You are
Vi
, the
Ranking Townie
.

Alignment: Town
-- You win when all threats to town are dead, and there is at least one member of town alive.

Passive: Public Rankings
(
Get 'em while they're still fresh!
) -- Your D1 rankings of other people will be made public in-thread and are assigned double weight.

17. NicoRobin
(TOWN)

Average:
2.06

Number of 10s:
1

Number of 0s:
8

With that, Night 1 begins immediately and ends in (expired on 2018-06-20 21:38:00).

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Something is off here based on the numbers provided by worst. The averages are wrong. Did someone sanity check these?

as I said it isn't really clear to me how the doubling thing factors in

Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:48 pm

In post 1792, TehBrawlGuy wrote:
In post 1791, Punreader wrote:
In post 1682, Taly wrote:I'm highly suspect of
Fire
at this point
Suspect him all you want.

He is objectively a terrible lynch today because we have two cop claims; if both
are
town (and yes I realize people doubt this but it is not impossible), then pun's only option is to deal with them during the night, lest they both produce more results.

I am telling you now that if we lynch Fire Assassin today and he flips town the entire punteam will be on that wagon and I will lynch exclusively from the players on it, for precisely this reason.

Now I admit, there is a significant chance Fire Assassin is just pun, but this changes nothing.

If he is pun fakeclaiming cop, he still has to produce results every day, or be lynched when he fails to do so.

So we wait.

We give him, at minimum, one day phase.

Correct play in a theme game such as this is not to lynch a cop claim and if the cop flips town lynch the other cop claim; correct play in a theme game is to not lynch either cop claim and let them investigate for a night, and then off of those investigation results, revisit and reevaluate every day on whether to lynch one of the cops and if so which one.

This is a fucking good post.

second

Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:53 pm

In post 1813, ManWithNoName wrote:I would think that it takes the rankings, adds the ranking from Nicorobin twice, then divides by 19. Is that what you're doing?

no I haven't tried that -- good call.

Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:54 pm

gut has spoken

VOTE: Shoshin

Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:59 pm

In post 1818, Shoshin wrote:I think your gut is broken, the worst.

I'm actual struggling here. There's a number of people I have as like....could see them as scum but I just think they're town. I'm cold on scum!PP again.

If it comes to a 1v1 between you and CShep my initial read had his slot down as town, and I actually think his case on you is reasonable. I'm not sure what you mean by saying that you don't think his reasons are adequate coming from him to vote you but if he's caught up and found you scummy that's kinda... how scumreads work.... :/

By way of comparison I had srceen in the bottom half of my list but didn't have a strong read on him. So it's very easy to take a chance on MWNN.

Is there something here you feel like I should be seeing?

Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:03 pm

In post 1856, Dunnstral wrote:I'm not excited about penguin wagon

In post 1857, Espeonage wrote:I remember disagreeing with pp pressure day 1 so I'll throw unsupport behind it too.

quoting to third this notion

Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:06 pm

Chara can you throw me some quotes from MWNN which are bothering you?

Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:35 am

In post 1865, Vaxkiller wrote:Did PP clain or anything? ALso waht did i miss? ALSO I'm kinda lost and don't really feel that strong about anyone at the moment.

Sad times.

PP is ascetic to anyone below him in rankings

Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:53 am

that's a pretty reasonable take.

fwiw I'm leaning town a tiny bit on MWNN but it's largely tonal. MWNN hates playing scum and it generally shines through more than it is here. But yeah in fairness it's not a huge stretch if the imagination to say that this game's within his scumrange.

pedit: same

Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:10 pm

uh..... fuck

Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:10 pm

fingers crossed

Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:24 pm

Not sure how much I would say but I hope this doesn't go awfully.

Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:52 am

VOTE: Shoshin

Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:24 pm

it's conceivable ActDan/Nah/CShep slot was slightly higher in rankings than Pun

Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:33 pm

I'm TRing MWNN

Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:48 am

mfw Pun confirmed SK but we already knew that

whatever my read on CShep slot isn't changing rn

Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:38 pm

Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:57 pm

sorry DV. I'm waiting for someone to break this night action shenaniganry down for us simpler folk.

Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:59 pm

I kinda feel like 3 or so people think they have a guilty atm but it's kinda turning into white noise in my head so I just want to kill scum

Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:21 pm

I think I want to be your best friend deas but your read on me is a little gross

Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:47 am

anyone able to get me up to speed? I'm still in a logic coma pretty much since Pun shot CShep

Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:30 am

Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 2271, Errantparabola wrote:Shoshin (3): Punreader, the worst, Commander Shepard
Look at that sketchy ass wagon!

In post 2271, Errantparabola wrote:Commander Shepard (4): Fire Assassin, Dunnstral, Shoshin, Vaxkiller

Scuse u?

Dunn is the only player on his wagon I like on CShep. This whole situation is gross af.

who is willing to give me a sheepable position on this night action shit? I don't wanna check out of this game mentally but I'm close.

Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:49 am

I've read your recent posts

Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:12 am

VOTE: FireAss

a man after my own heart ugh
Shoshin I get your interpretation but I'm not convinced you're town here.
if anyone I actually TR wants to explain the fuckery I'll probably vote with them

Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:25 am

oh god how did i get to 48 hours don't prod me

Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:08 am

oh hold on Punreader is making sense. Pun can you determine what the fuck the n2 shenanigans were about and whether or not we can get any valuable information from it?

MWNN slot is town until further notice.

VOTE: Shoshin

Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:21 pm

Apology accepted fam

Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:19 am

y r we lynching shep?

frankly I just don't understand the last few pages so I'm back on the player I think is most likely to flip red. srynotsry

Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:53 pm

howdy guacamole, avocados are my jam

Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:36 pm

you'd lynch me next?

Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:41 am

I don't really understand all the claims so I'll give you the duckling rundown

Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:46 am

3. Punreader - BP to all players ranked lower, vig to all players ranked lower (further reading: serial killer)
4. MariaR - non-consecutive night cop maybe??? BP after copping
5. DeasVail - unknown
6. Espeonage - some betting thing I think he lost
7. Dunnstral - think he claimed but can't remember
8. Commander Shepard - some redirecting conditional BP thing
9. the worst - adorable
11. Shoshin - unknown
12. Fire Assassin - cop who gets fucked results depending on rankings
14. Chara - unknown
15. ManWithNoName - connectoriser (allows 2 people to send 140 character messages to each other)
16. Vaxkiller - some kind of vig

Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:32 am

Pun shot pine night 1

Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:12 pm

I'm p comfortable that one of them is a serial killer. if pun is honestly intending to turn around and say they magically want to lynch me after treating me like I'm town all game I think that's a soft SK claim. (they as a SK would need everyone ranked higher than them lynched or sorted by NK)

Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:25 pm

Yeah same here.

Ugghh I'm not totally sure. I had tonsillitis when I did the rankings iirc and basically rushed them and went from the top down. my bottom scorers ended up being a lot of people I just didn't feel strongly about from memory.

Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:27 pm

(like, "my doctor tried to test me for glandular fever"-level tonsillitis, if I'm not mixing up my weekends)

pedit: it's probably the ranking I regret most, admittedly I'm pretty good at townreads d1 but shit at scumreads. PoE is my only hope. I was still like :/// and felt pretty lame when the flip happened.

Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:06 pm

oh god my experience with Nico has her like........ semi readable half the time. I've got a minor towntell on her but it's developed in the last month or so (after rankings)

policy didn't really influence it I just had no read on her and kinds rushed it. I'm sorry if that's got your backup, it doesn't feel like a particularly good ranking in hindsight

Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:28 pm

Feel better soon Pun

<3

Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:16 am

not really tbh

Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:15 am

In post 2433, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 2432, the worst wrote:not really tbh
So someone has to be lying... unless you want to use moon logic to explain everything.

the bit where I've repeatedly begged people not involved to hold my hand through this didn't give you an inkling that I was baffled? :/

Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:17 am

In post 2437, Vaxkiller wrote:It does worry me a little how the worst says hes not into this game, and doesnt know whats going on but has everyone's roles memorized.

the fact you're either not reading the game or low browing your play is getting slightly offensive. I'm p into this game. the role madness night actions shenaniganry is just not up my alley at all. the last 5 pages if this game get a great big fucking shrug from me.

also one of the major reasons MWNNslot is town

Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:31 am

D: no Chara

Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:33 am

In post 2450, Shoshin wrote:
In post 2448, the worst wrote:also one of the major reasons MWNNslot is town
What do you mean? Why town?

MWNN is someone I can read. I'm not inclined to out my tells on him too hard given they're current and extremely useful (a lot of people fuck up reading him

) but if it comes to a situation where we need to deal with that slot urgently I'm willing to elaborate a bit.

basically the way he called to strip away the bullshit and lynch people were actually scumreading is substantially more likely to come from town!him.

Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:38 am

not everyone plays town the way you play town, and MWNN is a fantastic example of that. also why is taking a stance on you or Shepard town indicative?

Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:41 am

sorry, I was in "sorting him" mode. you're not gonna be satisfied from this conversation tbh.

1. Should I not be scumreading you here?
2. Is taking a hard stance on you or Shepard town indicative? why/why not

Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:51 am

that's something I'll say about players I know very well, as both town and scum.

Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:51 am

will you be around for a bit? it might be easier to chat when I'm at a PC and can actually throw down more than 50 wpm

Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:55 am

bring it awn. I oughta do the same.

Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:11 pm

deas where are your reads at roughly

Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:11 pm

@Shoshin I need to catch you.
been a bit ill, keep falling asleep

Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:32 pm

*shrugs*

Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:48 pm

o hey krazy welcome

yes, we're in day 3

Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:55 pm

considering we probably have a serial killer

prolly like 4-5 maf + 1 sk?

Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:52 am

In post 2562, DeasVail wrote:
The worst
(Not much about his play specifically that concerns me, but I really fail to see anything much in the slot that pops out to me as town, and compared to others who I believe do have indicators pointing to them as town, this makes him a
good candidate imo for coasting scum
)

obvious coasting scum guys let's powerlynch my ass

I find it incredibly difficult to believe you actually have this read on me rn

Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:03 am

I was going for striking and visually impressive hoping you would elaborate.

Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:04 am

if I was like "ye sweet I'm gonna coast thru this game so I'm unreadable" going for #1 poster position with fluffy content and drawing maximum attention to myself surely seems counter intuitive

Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:17 am

I'm actually more alarmed that you're reading my posts in such a surface way

I think there's elements of my play this game that's mislynchable. elements of it that are definitely in line with my more powertowning self. and some stuff that probably looks down right shady.

it feels like you're stuck at level 1 of the above which is like.....pushing on tunnelling a mislynch territory

so no I'm not shocked that I'm being scumread categorically, just find it a bit shady that you're doing it on such 2 dimensional grounds

Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:18 am

I'm gonna have to think on this too. my read on you is standing on one foot on top of the Eiffel Tower. xD

Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:46 am

Vax full claim

Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:05 am

I'm never taking a night action result in a closed setup over dodgy play.

Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:13 am

I want an explanation from Vax and Pun tbh

Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:32 am

I'll claim whenever

Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:32 am

my role sUx

Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:12 pm

massclaim y/y?

Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:06 pm

In post 2660, Krazy wrote:the worst do you have another option other than vax today?

Shosh > Vax > Fire off the top of my head

I want massclaim tho.

Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:23 pm

everyone who hasn't claimed!!

I'm also away for the weekend so kinda obligated to half ass until I can do more work on this

Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:29 pm

deas your kitty gifs are ftw

Sat Jul 28, 2018 2:32 pm

Intent to hammer

Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:10 pm

who the fuck is town

Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:27 pm

guacamole is a mafia traitor.

Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:28 pm

in other words they're a guaca....MOLE!

Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:37 pm

confess your crimes, SPYcy avocaDOOM dip

Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:41 pm

Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:42 pm

what's up?
tic tac toe?

x - -
- - -
- - -

Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:43 pm

Don't really think CShep is scum

Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:46 pm

I feel like I've pretty much checked out of the game since the night action fiasco last night. He just doesn't seem scummy and it seems like a completely ridiculous ploy for scum!CShep to throw down.

but eh. I'm confused and kinda want blood.

Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:47 pm

also he's a player I would trust Pun's read on within reason but that's kinda just icing on the cake

Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:53 pm

......tfw literally 3 human weeks old and what is this

Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:58 pm

He literally just claimed scum

Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:02 pm

Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:06 pm

and all the scumbuddies are voteless. who'd have thought

Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:21 am

meeeow

Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:25 am

kinda happy my gut pings on FireAss were about right but I feel kinda stupid for digging in my heels so hard wrt CShep. :/ also not really sure what to do about night action resolutions.

Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:45 pm

oh fuck i just realised something super super useful

Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:51 pm

massclaim tomorrow y/y

Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:54 pm

just a friendly reminder I was the one advocating massclaim yesterday. and I'm telling you that massclaim is currently suboptimal.

Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:00 pm

I just need to check a thing, I might be mistaken and don't want to start barking up the wrong tree unnecessarily

Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:01 pm

going hiking

see you guys later, I'll try and get back into this game asap

Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:01 pm

Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:07 pm

duckies can't type lmao

done with my hike, what's good

Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:11 pm

Can scum act and kill in the same night?

Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:16 pm

shitttt good pickup
Boothy is gonna endgame this shit

Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:20 pm

Shosh, I am nowhere near a labyrinth gladiator moment with you here. is there something I should be looking for that I'm not seeing?

Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:32 pm

honestly I'm used to being NK'd when scum are rolling a game so I haven't really been sure what to work with. the b2b red flips are getting me a little excited and I'm trying to work out if I'm close to breaking this game or not.

Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:42 pm

LMFAO don't worry it's not a good role. I've kinda crumbed it

Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:55 pm

not pulling some fake guilty nonsense

Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:30 pm

In post 2900, Shoshin wrote:
In post 2898, the worst wrote:not pulling some fake guilty nonsense
I wonder if you were inspired by Fire's play, in which case you knew his alignment before his flip...

heh

have you read much of my scum meta?

Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:34 pm

huh so Krazy roleblocked DV last night?
do we know what's up with the cat thing? (I recall that's DV's doing)

Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:38 pm

I'll claim after we work out the Krazy/DV shenanigans. also gonna collate claims starting now.

Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:49 pm

Punreader - BP to all players ranked lower, vig to all players ranked lower
DeasVail - cats??!?!!!?
Espeonage - some betting thing I think he lost
the worst - it's a surprise

Shoshin - ???
Krazy - roleblocking thing???
guacamole - Connector
Vaxkiller - shady unproven vig claim

have I missed anything?

Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:57 pm

Punreader - BP to all players ranked lower, vig to all players ranked lower
DeasVail - cats??!?!!!?
Espeonage - had a bet with Dunn that Vaxk would be ranked higher han FA (lost)
the worst - ???
Shoshin - Ranking immune townie
Krazy - roleblocking thing???
guacamole - Connector
Vaxkiller - shady unproven vig claim

Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:00 pm

going by our meta and experience with reading each other I'd be really surprised if MWNN was scum here.
that slot's use of its power has been pretty solid from what I've seen, too.

Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:06 pm

I'm trying to put it in words and I kinda guess I could be wrong. I have a pretty good history of reading MWNN correctly via content and postcount but tbf he wasn't around here for as long as I woulda liked.

Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:07 pm

uhh ngl I was a bit tunnelled, kinda half assing at that point and thought CShep was town.

Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:12 pm

hold on a little longer. I'm about to blow some minds.

Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:25 pm

In post 2933, Shoshin wrote:
In post 2320, the worst wrote:oh hold on Punreader is making sense. Pun can you determine what the fuck the n2 shenanigans were about and whether or not we can get any valuable information from it?

MWNN slot is town until further notice.

VOTE: Shoshin
This is so bad. Like, we've got potential wagons on Shepard, Fire, and me. And you go for me... doesn't make any sense.

I townread the Nahdia/CShep slot and FireAss was a claimed investigative. why would I ever have voted for those two over you who I was scumreading?

Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:38 pm

I liked ActionDan and Nahdia and CShep did nothing to make me take back my read on the slot

Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:39 pm

you might also recall I basically lurked through the night action shenanigan bullshit and asked several times if someone could talk me through what the fuck to think.... that was a lonely time

Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:46 pm

I did accidentally pass out on you once, yeah. :/
did you reach out during all of that as well?

Fri Aug 03, 2018 6:06 pm

that doesn't bode well

Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:43 am

actually really can't say right now. I need fullclaims from Vaxk, Krazy and DV. like we are potentially fucked without them and I think I have a few little dots which I think I can join once they've spoken up.

Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:44 am

there are two things, in addition to my claim, that I need to talk about and need them to speak up before I do. and I'm happy to talk about anything then.

Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:13 am

I'm a flavour cop of sorts--I don't get alignment indicative results tho.

Full details following those 3 fullclaims because my claim is actually a bit spicier that I thought it was.

Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:44 pm

In post 2951, Punreader wrote:I hate to break it to you all who are trying to mislynch the worst, but guacamole connected the worst and I together today and he roleclaimed in his message to me well before his roleclaim out here.

that was meant to be our secret :c

Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:46 pm

I assumed Espe is just the inverse of Dunn?

Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:49 pm

no no no don't worry I noticed something really sweet

Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:54 pm

that's because I want something very specific from Krazy and DeasVail and Vaxk and they are IGNORING me

Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:59 pm

In post 2979, Krazy wrote:Not gonna lie, considering how much swingy garbage is in this setup, I feel like Espe's claim is too boring to be real.

Still want the worst to stop stalling though.

you're 1/3 of the problem
full claim

Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:01 pm

excellent, Krazy is just scum

Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:04 pm

hmmm nah I'm gonna wait for DV and Vaxk and hope like hell that if you actually are town you pull your head out of your ass and realise that at this juncture every piece of quality information shoves us closer to a win

Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:09 pm

In post 2989, Vaxkiller wrote:Where are we at here. Im back from vaca finally.

fullclaim

Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:14 pm

I know for a fact at least one person is bullshitting about their role and actions right now.
also got one near full mechanical clear.

so fmpov anyone not willingly giving their full role here is basically claiming scum.

Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:14 pm

In post 2997, Shoshin wrote:I'm more confused by Guac's choice to connect the worst and Pun, though. I'm trying to understand how a townie who just saw Shepard flip scum chooses that connect.

I have a little theory about this
again, not saying anything until people claim

Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:24 pm

your actions do nottttttt speak town lmao
you've coasted through this entire game and there's perfectly valid setup theories behind why you could be scum

honestly in ISO, I'd pick you for scum in a heartbeat.

Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:24 pm

I haven't fully claimed the nature of my results, and I will not since it almost clears someone else.

pedit: don't even try this bullshit, this is far too on-the-nose

Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:29 pm

@shoshin please tell me you laughed too

okay I'm gonna do some reading with that claim in mind

Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:29 pm

In post 3017, Shoshin wrote:the worst, why didn't you use your role on me?

I need to explain my role in full to answer this which I can't do yet

Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:42 pm

ugh this is so tilting

I wanna talk to DV. after I do, @Krazy I'm giving you 24 hours to fullclaim

Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:12 pm

Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:13 pm

I didn't have enough space for the results.

Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:15 pm

whatever but we NEED to get DV/Krazy's results because there's certain stuff I'm not going to say no matter what yet.

Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:17 pm

wait what

Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:19 pm

same

Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:21 pm

actually I changed my mind lmao
I've claimed privately to both Taly and Punreader it's not like I'm making shit up on the fly

I have results on:-
PenguinPower
Dunnstral
myself
Punreader

riddle over that

Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:25 pm

@Shoshin, there hasn't been a reason to yet. I can talk through my rationale on investigating each of those slots if you'd like but again. not after DV and Krazy fullclaim because I'm fucking sick of the distractions and stalling. my fullclaim actually isn't insane it just spews a particular person as town

Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:26 pm

and again @Shoshin explain to me in detail how this is like my scumgames. I'm gambitty as shit with information regardless of alignment.

Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:27 pm

I appreciate we haven't known each other long, site rules, etc. etc. but you're outright shading me here and I'm actually not sure you know my meta well enough to even be close to knowing what you're talking about.

Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:30 pm

my scum meta of faking investigative roles with hard results very obviously doesn't apply here.

- I don't have a fake guilty to use to pocket someone. the closest thing I have is a probable setup clear on a player who is not pocket able.

- I do not have anything that even resembles a guilty.

if you think I'm playing to my scum meta of fakeclaiming please tell me what you think my goal is here? like I'm actively yelling at people for information so that I can flip this game on its head. I'm obviously not stalling. I don't have an alignment indicative claim to make that's going to turn the flow of the game.

what the fuck do you think scum!me is gaining from tormenting the player list?

Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:32 pm

above everything else when I play a wild gambit as scum, I have an agenda. I can't melt brains even nearly as well as CShep can, evidently, but I don't actually see any effort from you in trying to explain why scum!me would ever actually play through this phase this way? it feels like you're twisting a minor aspect of my scum meta to fit around what I've been doing here, rather than actually trying to read me organically.

Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:48 pm

My massclaim isn't majorly related to my role

it's related to some bullshit that I've realised is going on.

Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:52 pm

Only after Krazy agrees that he'll stop the stalling crap.

Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:00 pm

I haven't asked for flavour claims dude. And where did you claim your role's mechanics?

I'm chevre--I can check players' positions in the scoring, but only whether they are higher or lower than my previous target. you all might have noticed my repeated insistence that we would find out if scum had been fucking with the rankings, and how much work I put into collating information originally.

Penguin < Dunnstral < myself > Punreader

I didn't really realize until Guac paired us up but I'm actually almost certain that my role's existence spews Pun as town.

Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:02 pm

In post 2835, the worst wrote:oh fuck i just realised something super super useful

Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:05 pm

In post 3065, the worst wrote:Penguin Punreader

Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:05 pm

quote flipped out.

penguin > Dunn > self < pun

Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:07 pm

I think my role is only useful in conjunction with Pun's and I kinda feel like there's unlikely to be negative utility roles in this game.

Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:10 pm

N1 Penguin was like..... always scum or mislynch. I misunderstood my role and thought I'd actually get a # result so figured he'd be the most interesting check.

N2 i can't really remember why I picked Dunn, I think it was just a random pick.

I picked myself n3 because I kinda felt like it and couldn't think of anything else to do with my role. then I picked Pun to see if they could kill me or not.

idk fam it's not a very exciting role, and probably the only useful result I can get with it is tonight's, if Pun has anyone in particular they want me to check.

Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:13 pm

when did I lie? there's more stuff I need massclaim completed to talk about :/

sorry if my terminology was bad. flavour investigative*?

Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:24 pm

In post 1461, the worst wrote:just for a fun exercise MWNN would you mind making a few notes about how your reads compare to Srceen's?

his input to the game was a little inconclusive. I can normally sort him reasonably? well and was worried by how null he was here. but I also like to think we work together pretty well so you're high sorting priority for me rn

In post 1883, the worst wrote:that's a pretty reasonable take.

fwiw I'm leaning town a tiny bit on MWNN but it's largely tonal. MWNN hates playing scum and it generally shines through more than it is here. But yeah in fairness it's not a huge stretch if the imagination to say that this game's within his scumrange.

pedit: same

In post 1965, the worst wrote:I'm TRing MWNN

In post 2320, the worst wrote:oh hold on Punreader is making sense. Pun can you determine what the fuck the n2 shenanigans were about and whether or not we can get any valuable information from it?

MWNN slot is town until further notice.

VOTE: Shoshin

In post 2448, the worst wrote:
In post 2437, Vaxkiller wrote:It does worry me a little how the worst says hes not into this game, and doesnt know whats going on but has everyone's roles memorized.
the fact you're either not reading the game or low browing your play is getting slightly offensive. I'm p into this game. the role madness night actions shenaniganry is just not up my alley at all. the last 5 pages if this game get a great big fucking shrug from me.

also one of the major reasons MWNNslot is town

In post 2456, the worst wrote:
In post 2450, Shoshin wrote:
In post 2448, the worst wrote:also one of the major reasons MWNNslot is town
What do you mean? Why town?
MWNN is someone I can read. I'm not inclined to out my tells on him too hard given they're current and extremely useful (a lot of people fuck up reading him ) but if it comes to a situation where we need to deal with that slot urgently I'm willing to elaborate a bit.

basically the way he called to strip away the bullshit and lynch people were actually scumreading is substantially more likely to come from town!him.

In post 2921, the worst wrote:going by our meta and experience with reading each other I'd be really surprised if MWNN was scum here.
that slot's use of its power has been pretty solid from what I've seen, too.

In post 2926, the worst wrote:I'm trying to put it in words and I kinda guess I could be wrong. I have a pretty good history of reading MWNN correctly via content and postcount but tbf he wasn't around here for as long as I woulda liked.

what's confusing you here Shoshin?

Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:30 pm

1000 posts later?

I was ridiculously null on srceen and MWNN took a while to get into the swing of the game. As I said across my posts I feel like MWNN's content was more likely to come from town!MWNN than scum!MWNN. the only thing that gives me pause is how little time he was around for. like to slip past my scumdar I think he woulda needed to put a lot of effort into his posting so.....it's possible that he did and then rep'd out because he didn't want to keep it up anymore? but I feel like it's more probable that he's just town

Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:31 pm

In post 3077, DeasVail wrote:
In post 3028, the worst wrote:ugh this is so tilting

I wanna talk to DV. after I do, @Krazy I'm giving you 24 hours to fullclaim
Haven’t been able to catch up on the last few pages yet but will try and be here properly later this afternoon.

I'll try not to fall back to sleep!

Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:34 pm

so by your reasoning DV was definitely roleblocked last night and....if anyone targeted one of you they would've targeted both of you?

pedit: hm okay. just waiting on DV.

Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:40 pm

In post 3088, DeasVail wrote:Targeted Shoshin N2, Krazy N3, the worst N4. Assumed that he’d received the cat when he posted a meow at daystart but it seems not?

ding ding ding

VOTE: Krazy

Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:42 pm

I received a cat.

Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:43 pm

In post 2825, the worst wrote:meeeow

first post of the day.

Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:20 pm

In post 3099, Shoshin wrote:
In post 2850, Krazy wrote:DeasVail could not have done the scum nightkill because I roleblocked him last night.
the worst, why didn't you claim after this?

because I wanted a fullclaim so he couldn't randomly change it to a maybe thing later.

Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:23 pm

is it? like fmpov Krazy was confirmed to be fakeclaiming unless his role has some shenanigans which allow for some kind of possible bypass.

how is that a weird thing to be worried about? when there's a solid chance I've caught scum that strikes me as the only thing to be worried about?

Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:26 pm

In post 2669, Errantparabola wrote:
Votecount 4.2

Commander Shepard
(4): Dunnstral, Shoshin, Krazy/DeasVail

Fire Assassin
(1): Punreader

Shoshin
(1): Vaxkiller

Not Voting
(5): Espeonage, the worst, Fire Assassin, guacamole, Commander Shepard

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to achieve a majority.
Deadline in (expired on 2018-08-09 10:05:00)

was worried as fuck DV might be ascetic or something for a moment but I think this confirms Krazy's action definitely went through. I can't think of another reason I received a cat.

Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:27 pm

uh you're psyche right like the srceen/mwnn slot?

Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:31 pm

nvm I literally caught Krazy bullshitting about his role. he's probably counting on how unlikely it'd be for two roleblockers to be on the same scumteam. but DV was very obviously not roleblocked last night.

Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:36 pm

do you want my statement?

Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:54 pm

no worries EP. you're still the best <3

UNVOTE:
hold on fam.

Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:30 am

just confirming I should not have received a kitty last night. my feline friend has been taken away, and with it a massive chunk of my enthusiasm >:

Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:19 am

It was a perfect duplication of my connection to Taly by srceen in d2, as well. without a doubt it was guac's action.

Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:22 am

In post 3135, Krazy wrote:Feel like today is now guac vs. the worst.

the worst, what do you make of guac saying he didn't connect you?

¯\(°_o)/¯
shenanigans probably

	RECEIVER
GIVER	TehBrawlGuy	Taly	Punreader	MariaR	DeasVail	Espeonage	Dunnstral	Nahdia	the worst	Pine	Shoshin	Fire Assassin	Lovebird	Chara	ManWithNoName	Vaxkiller	PenguinPower	NicoRobin
TehBrawlGuy	10	1	10	8	5	0	9	6	2	10	7	4	5	6	3	4	0	0
Taly	5	10	10	6	6	0	2	4	9	5	8	1	3	10	7	0	0	4
Punreader	0	10	10	6	4	6	9	8	5	0	7	5	2	10	1	4	0	3
MariaR	9	4	10	10	5	10	5	0	8	2	4	3	0	6	6	1	7	0
DeasVail	3	10	10	0	10	2	4	5	9	4	8	5	1	6	7	6	0	0
Espeonage	9	8	4	5	6	10	10	4	7	0	3	0	1	5	2	10	6	0
Dunnstral	2	9	7	6	4	8	10	5	5	4	3	10	0	10	6	0	1	0
Nahdia	4	5	10	3	5	6	2	10	7	4	6	9	1	10	0	0	8	0
the worst	6	10	5	8	6	9	2	7	10	4	3	1	0	10	0	4	5	0
Pine	10	9	0					0		10		8		10			0
Shoshin	8	10	5	0	6	3	6	4	9	1	10	2	0	10	7	5	0	4
Fire Assassin	8	2	3	9	5	0	4	10	7	4	6	10	1	10	6	0	4	0
Lovebird
Chara	10	10	8	6	5	4	5	9	7	0	6	4	3	10	0	0	2	1
ManWithNoName	10	10	4	1	0	0	6	5	7	4	8	5	3	9	10	6	0	2
Vaxkiller	0	0	7	0	6	4	2	10	5	10	4	9	5	3	6	10	8	1
PenguinPower	9	0	0	10	8	7	10	3	6	2	4	4	5	0	5	6	10	1
NicoRobin	4	6	0	8	8	20	14	12	12	20	0	0	2	16	10	10	18	10
	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE
	6.29	6.71	6.06	5.38	5.56	5.56	6.25	6.00	7.19	4.94	5.44	4.71	2.00	8.29	4.75	4.13	4.06	1.63
	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS
	4	7	6	2	1	3	3	3	1	4	1	2	0	9	2	3	1	1
	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES
	2	2	3	3	1	4	0	2	0	3	1	2	4	1	3	5	7	8

unaccounted votes	1	1	1	2	2	2	2	1	2	1	2	1	2	1	2	2	1	2
unaccounted points	???	???	???	???	???	???	???	???	???	0	???	???	???	???	???	???	???	11
av. unacc. score	???	???	???	???	???	???	???	???	???	0	???	???	???	???	???	???	???	5.5