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I know I'm not good at reading you - that doesn't matter
Either we lynch you now, or we think you're so town that we never consider you again.
Nolynching here and then coming back to lynch you later is super bad for town, and it's a trap we need to avoid. You're not towny enough to not be considered later in the game, and Maria isn't a lynch option-
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Why does this bother you guys?In post 2032, Elsa Jay wrote:
Mfw you bring up the point I did for day 1 but they all said I was paranoid.In post 2021, Firebringer wrote:the thing that bothers me the most is how does dunn know for sure that maria doesn't just auto gladiate them and they are in a quagmire?
like what?
A) I know MariaR
B) NoLynch is an option and is acceptable in that situation. WORST case scenario: we'd just power lynch through the sword and get somebody else to claim it - that's not at all ideal in my mind, and is in fact worse than nolynching
For UT:
A) He was never bothered to the point where he was considering gladiating me, indeed I'm not sure he even gave a read on me at all
B) I'm not so afraid of being gladiated that I'm not going to push people
Further, it bothers you guys in what way? I don't get it. If the implication is that I'm scum, then wouldn't I have that same worry about Maria/UT gladiating me making the point moot/nai...?
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I'm wondering what your read on Fire is since you've had luck in reading himIn post 2037, MariaR wrote:I'm just wondering if I should shoot or not atm. I lean yes-
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Yeah ok, I retractIn post 2094, Kokichi Oma wrote:
I hardclaim Merlin. Anyone who doesnt retract after this post. needs to be shot @person with the sword.In post 2069, Auro wrote:Oh NVM. Claimed Merlin cos he was gonna be the lunch candidate.
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Maria doesn't have the sword, get with the programIn post 2162, DVa wrote:If we lynch Maria the sword can be claimed tonight, so if we accept that Fire is a mislynch, and Maria is not Arthur and plans to suicide anyway, then the mechnically superior option is to lynch her and let someone else claim the sword tonight. If town refuses to no lynch, and Fire is town, we should lynch Maria. Otherwise all we're doing is wasting a cycle with the sword.-
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I dare you to gladiate either of us and see what happensIn post 2175, DVa wrote:
Would you prefer to be lynched before or after Kokichi?In post 2169, Dunnstral wrote:I feel like I kind of forced her into continuing the fake claim when I claimed she had the sword-
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Yeah noIn post 2194, DVa wrote:vs. Maria who suddenly everyone wants to fakeclaim to protect?
People were claiming she had the sword because she said she had the sword and they were trying to protect against the really bad plan of "merlin claims day 2"-
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Once again, Maria doesn't have the swordIn post 2198, DVa wrote:
Damage control is lynching MariaIn post 2197, Gamma Emerald wrote:I was voting no lynch but no one wants the ACTUALLY safer option so I’m taking to damage control option
Lynch Fire + Maria suicides = 2 dead town, sword unusable another day
Lynch maria = 1 dead town, sword claimed tonight, we get another inno tomorrow and can actually confirm the merlin claim
Is she fake claiming or does she have the sword, actually? You're arguing both points-
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So people were fake claiming to protect her, but she also has the sword and is confirmed town, from your point of viewIn post 2206, DVa wrote:
Which is objectively trueIn post 2204, Dunnstral wrote:DVa you just said people were fake claiming to protect her
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In post 1824, Not Known 15 wrote:Bullshit.
I am Merlin. Firebringer is Arthur.
Lynch MariaR.
VOTE:MariaR
This is probably what he's talking aboutIn post 1896, Not Known 15 wrote:Vote:UnvoteYeah I am not Merlin.
I think Dunnstral is the real Merlin.
This means that Arthur and Merlin will die while MariaR will be kept for us as Bulletproof IC - that should be good enough.
I think we should probably lynch Firebringer now, because a NoLynch just reduces the number of mislynches avaliable by one in this situation. Am I wrong?-
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Why?
Can you answer the following:
In post 1899, Dunnstral wrote:
How much of the game have you read? Because it kind of looks like you're getting info from scum chat right now with the way you jumped straight into the game and fake claimed merlin then talked about the sword and bulletproof icIn post 1896, Not Known 15 wrote:Vote:UnvoteYeah I am not Merlin.
I think Dunnstral is the real Merlin.
This means that Arthur and Merlin will die while MariaR will be kept for us as Bulletproof IC - that should be good enough.
I think we should probably lynch Firebringer now, because a NoLynch just reduces the number of mislynches avaliable by one in this situation. Am I wrong?In post 1938, Dunnstral wrote:In post 1824, Not Known 15 wrote:Bullshit.
I am Merlin. Firebringer is Arthur.
Lynch MariaR.
VOTE:MariaR
As I said earlier these are some weird posts for somebody just replacing in to be makingIn post 1896, Not Known 15 wrote:Vote:UnvoteYeah I am not Merlin.
I think Dunnstral is the real Merlin.
This means that Arthur and Merlin will die while MariaR will be kept for us as Bulletproof IC - that should be good enough.
I think we should probably lynch Firebringer now, because a NoLynch just reduces the number of mislynches avaliable by one in this situation. Am I wrong?-
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Also I was serious earlier when I said people don't listen to my MariaR read - She literally has the sword and is mod confirmed and people are theorizing situations where I'm biased and wrong on my read on her - then they have the audacity to say that their own read on her would be better than mine in that situationIn post 2256, Firebringer wrote:My running theory is dunnstral is town has the sword and is hard defending maria because he truly misguided believes she is town.
And usually i would ask dunny to come out and completely tell me the truth regarding this, but I can't rely on what he says.
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And Nancy isn't scumIn post 2417, Elsa Jay wrote:
I can be a team player sometimes.In post 2411, Firebringer wrote:i have a hard time believing u follow anyones orders.
Auther n2 aka Kokichi. He can change his mind and tell me to shoot elsawhere if he's changed anything. But you want to leave anyway, so I'll probably still shoot you anyway.Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
You can’t think for yourself? Well who’s the brulliant scumhunting god, giving you “orders” because they will be theIn post 2409, Elsa Jay wrote:Me shooting you doesnt correlate to it being a read. I'm just following orders on that one so I dont fuck over town.laughingstockWOAT of this game.-
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I'm not fake claiming holding the sword dudeIn post 2421, Firebringer wrote:
Fuck you dude.In post 2419, Dunnstral wrote:
Also I was serious earlier when I said people don't listen to my MariaR read - She literally has the sword and is mod confirmed and people are theorizing situations where I'm biased and wrong on my read on her - then they have the audacity to say that their own read on her would be better than mine in that situationIn post 2256, Firebringer wrote:My running theory is dunnstral is town has the sword and is hard defending maria because he truly misguided believes she is town.
And usually i would ask dunny to come out and completely tell me the truth regarding this, but I can't rely on what he says.
This is very frustrating.
Literally fuck you.
Maria has it-
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Would you feel better if I said I did believe Maria was scum until she claimed the sword, and the reason I thought she was scum was because she made up excuses for not going for the sword then didn't say she went for it anyway?In post 2428, Firebringer wrote:No I am not believing a claim or anything you say regards to swords/arthur/merlin anything like that, but my point about "fuck you" was I believed you on maria being scum, and then you backtracked and put a knife in me and now you fucking say "No one believes my read on Maria". Like seriously.
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Also this kind of Merlin fishing right now doesn't seem beneficial to the town, at the leastIn post 2402, Auro wrote:
Do you think Merlin hasn't claimed yet?In post 2399, Firebringer wrote:
yesIn post 2397, Auro wrote:You think Maria's lying about having the sword?
If one of the Merlin claims so far is true, which one can it be?-
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YesIn post 2547, MariaR wrote:nk15 needs to die
UT needs to die
1 of auro/dva need to die and we'll revisit after that imo-
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I went over this - not only are they a hard lurk slot, they came into the game with way too much information then never explained why, then came in and voted no lynchIn post 2588, Kokichi Oma wrote:Why nk15-
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In post 1918, MariaR wrote:Because I'm shooting Dva tonight.-
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Sure, he can die too for lurking this far in, though I still think nk15 coming in with unnatural gamestate info is scum indicativeIn post 2597, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
What about Penguin? I still think Ariane could be scum and Penguin has done nothing to change my mind on that.In post 2595, Dunnstral wrote:
I went over this - not only are they a hard lurk slot, they came into the game with way too much information then never explained why, then came in and voted no lynchIn post 2588, Kokichi Oma wrote:Why nk15-
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In post 2587, Dunnstral wrote:Maria is going to be V/la until the 14th, I don't think she planned on surviving
We should get Not Known 15 todayIn post 2588, Kokichi Oma wrote:Why nk15In post 2595, Dunnstral wrote:
I went over this - not only are they a hard lurk slot, they came into the game with way too much information then never explained why, then came in and voted no lynchIn post 2588, Kokichi Oma wrote:Why nk15
Read the thread pleaseIn post 2607, PenguinPower wrote:
Why?In post 2605, Dunnstral wrote:Can you gladiate not known 15 today?-
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In post 1824, Not Known 15 wrote:Bullshit.
I am Merlin. Firebringer is Arthur.
Lynch MariaR.
VOTE:MariaR
These posts show a weird understanding of the game for someone having just replaced in, it looks like they got their info from the scum ptIn post 1896, Not Known 15 wrote:Vote:UnvoteYeah I am not Merlin.
I think Dunnstral is the real Merlin.
This means that Arthur and Merlin will die while MariaR will be kept for us as Bulletproof IC - that should be good enough.
I think we should probably lynch Firebringer now, because a NoLynch just reduces the number of mislynches avaliable by one in this situation. Am I wrong?
Contentless no lynch post without addressing other people's concerns about his knowledge or anything else at all
Plus we're on day 3 and the slot has a combined total of 6 posts-
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Here are her readsIn post 2547, MariaR wrote:nk15 needs to die
UT needs to die
1 of auro/dva need to die and we'll revisit after that imo-
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Why are they bad Chara?In post 2594, Chara wrote:early gladiates today are bad.-
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In post 2102, Dunnstral wrote:
Yeah ok, I retractIn post 2094, Kokichi Oma wrote:
I hardclaim Merlin. Anyone who doesnt retract after this post. needs to be shot @person with the sword.In post 2069, Auro wrote:Oh NVM. Claimed Merlin cos he was gonna be the lunch candidate.
Arthur has the sword btw.-
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If only there were some way to get people killed, beyond standard lynching mechanics
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You need to explain how you came into this game and started posting game relevant content immediatelyIn post 2672, Not Known 15 wrote:Challenge:Sir Cakez
They are the most likely to be scum in my opinion. They talk alot of setup on purpose early(despite knowing it would alienate people), opportunistically jump on Nancy Drew while refusing to read meta, and the going for LLD also opportunistically with an easy reasoning :
... while we know that this "no town player" is obviously false...In post 1240, SirCakez wrote:VOTE: lld
No town player would have gladiated Maria of all people there despite spending pages going on about scum Elsa before
We weren't discussing/engaging before the guy gladiated, there was nothing for him to be cutting offIn post 2690, Auro wrote:
UNVOTE:In post 2687, Varsoon wrote:Honestly feels like NK15 is a scum fall-guy and gladiated early to try to snip town from discussing/figuring out more because outside of NK15 we're going in the wrong direction.
Yeah, we should take the time to discuss and engage, and just lynch him towards the end.
In post 2702, Varsoon wrote:Makes sense to me, yeah.
I don't know why anyone would try to push for gladiate stuff to happen when we're all not here.
I told you she'd be back by the time I gladiated and she will be
I set a timer and everything
What does MariaR have to say that we need to wait for her exactly?In post 2707, Varsoon wrote:Ah, I thought he was saying he'd gladiate like right when Maria 'should be around' but it was basically just 2 days out and not assured.
Didn't he post a countdown or was that NK15?
She made her reads clear already
I don't do soft deadlines because then nobody cares about the deadline and the game continues being inactiveIn post 2709, Varsoon wrote:It should've been a soft deadline, like "When Maria gets back and we come to a consensus"-
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In post 2587, Dunnstral wrote:Maria is going to be V/la until the 14th, I don't think she planned on surviving
We should get Not Known 15 today-
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Auro is this true or noIn post 2726, Not Known 15 wrote:Yeah so. It doesn't seem to go well for me so I think I better reveal that I am - despite my retractions - the real Merlin... which unfortunately means that I have to reveal the real Arthur this time (which prevents them from getting attacked:() - and then hopefully lynch that scum I challenged.
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Why did you ask this by the wayIn post 2711, Auro wrote:What's MariaR's read accuracy on Dunnstral?-
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In post 2666, Dunnstral wrote:MariaR isn't the type of person to townlead - she'd rather watch other people gladiate on their own and then shoot her scumread at night.
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Yeah, knowing that penguinpower wasn't actually against penguin gifs but that it's just his thing is making me rethink my vote on NK15 too
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