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Chara it/itsJack of All Tradesit/its
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deadline is in two days, so i suppose i'll read sooner than soonish.
unless someone has a major argument for Fire being town i'll lynch that, really. unless there's some mechanical reason that makes no-lynching preferable to flipping someone who could go either way*.
*note: of course, i haven't read yet.
speaking of, hi Fire!
and everyone else too. :>
pedit: hi Varsoon!
rarely yes, but i always enjoy when it happens."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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i replaced in because this game is 75% people i know, for what it's worth."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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i'm pretty good. a little tired, maybe, but exams are winding down and i'm sure we'll be getting more sleep soon.
i've read a bit of what happened."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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why would scum feel guilty?In post 1509, Untrod Tripod wrote:
so I don't love this post... feels like a guilty conscienceIn post 1493, SirCakez wrote:Disappointed by lynch flip but tbh it was necessary, LLD was playing extremely erratically and would have had to go at some point."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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In post 2577, Kokichi Oma wrote:This game is wild. Now let's scumhunt please? Anyone who gladiates for no reason is being lynched again."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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this game slipped my mind, i'm sorry about that. it sounds like we have plenty of time though. i'm going to be reading tonight. early gladiates today are bad."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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why would they be good? locking us into a lynch early on for no reason isn't a good idea. and i'm still catching up.In post 2613, Dunnstral wrote:
Why are they bad Chara?In post 2594, Chara wrote:early gladiates today are bad."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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i agree with Cakez. this game feels like mostly inactive/passive scum. i recall a lot of town fighting town over claims.
also i was going to post a few things from Gamma that felt very suspect until i realized he's town. so that's... well, it's something, at the very least."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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Nancy feels town too. i've given up on trying to read sequentially and am going through sections as they catch my interest.In post 2621, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
That is a misrep. I already said, I thought Ariane was scummy. THEN I said, that you hadn’t done anything to change my mind on that.In post 2618, PenguinPower wrote:I repeat: I haven't done anything. That's a pretty weak reason for a "strong scum read."
So, basically, your entire read on my slot is activity based.
So, I am not scumreading you based on “inactivity”. I obviously am not townreading for that on top of a slot that pinged me, before you even replaced in.
hypothetical scum Nancy focusing on a town slot whose only meaningful actiom was a vote on her just doesn't seem likely."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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2 days is a pretty good amount of time for me, personally. especially since i'm not townreading either."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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so. fakeclaims. great for faking out scum, right? nothing bad could come of them."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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it's great that they are, but i'm only going to consider it a win when something besides a mislynch is gained from it.
let's see what Auro says."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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sorry. to be fair, i was here yesterday, NK was just lynched pretty quickly.In post 2812, Varsoon wrote:I really, really wish Chara or UT would get in game.
the fact that the consensus scumreads are just the two players not posting kind of makes me nervous, for what it's worth."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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actually, considering the game state it isn't awful. i'm also townreading the active posters.
but to be perfectly honest, i don't have the best grasp of who that is besides Varsoon/Maria/Nancy."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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ugh. lost my post but it basically says "three scum left, only two need to die" and everybody has been pretty towny. everybody meaning Nancy and Varsoon and Maria. Kokichi is Merlin, if Dunn was scum i think Maria would have said something, so it leaves UT/Penguin/Gamma.
Nancy's reason for Gamma town is fine. i don't mind it. one of those townies i'm ok calling town (like Gamma) must be a scum but it's fine if we hit the others."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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i might just gladiate UT. guarantee i could out-town him in a 1v1 and it's justsolikely he's scum given where the rest of the game is and his ISO.
even better would be a Penguin/UT gladiate, but i don't actually have a read on Penguin. so, maybe not.
either is fine, really. i'll keep reading."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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i didn't mean you were inactive, sorry. you aren't. i was just listing the players on the page i was on that i saw posting. which is what my post was saying, that i was so out of it i didn't even know who was active.
as for early gladiates, it doesn't matter to me any more, but i decided to announce my ideas before just jumping into them."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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aren't there three scum left, not 2?
i'll gladiate as soon as i hear from Gamma."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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UT, that's a pretty meaningless question. anyone can say they'll flip town. you've just admitted yourself you haven't been doing much this game. i haven't either.
speaking of, why gladiate Penguin over me?
to answer your question, it would mean at least one strong townread is wrong.
Gamma: your opinion on me gladiating UT, that's what i wanted to hear."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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that doesn't really clear things up for me. who is scum that you want dead?"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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yes. there would be a scum besides UT, and considering i just offered to gladiate him i wouldn't be surprised if UT preferred to gladiate Penguin, who he would probably have a better chance at beating than me.
he knows he's going to be in a gladiate either way by now.
i don't know if he'd do that if he's scum with Penguin. i'd say it's possible, but actively gladiating town would just be a better idea for scum here.
i don't think any scum here can try and sit and hope town gladiates town again. there just aren't enough players left."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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you say you have no problem gladiating Penguin because you and him are both widely scumread, but when i ask why him over me you say that both of us are scumbuddies (a tongue in cheek reference to where scumreads are at right now). and add that the scumreads on us are both lazy, if i read that right. (maybe you mesnt Penguin there?)In post 2860, Untrod Tripod wrote:
what are you talking about?In post 2859, Chara wrote:and UT, the cog-dis in 2852 and 2856 is very blatant. and i rarely say that.
so, you acknowledge that you haven't been doing anything, but that apparently the town shouldn't be scumreading that?
i'm asking you questions about your read on me to get some more content out of you, and i'd appreciate an actual answer.
as it is i'd say you're just scum, though.
if it's not you, i'd say Gamma/Penguin. but that's two of three. who's the last?"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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i didn't really say what i wanted to say there. why isn't gladiating me an option for you, when i'm actually more of a consensus scumread than Penguin appears to be?"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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if UT is scum here i believe he knows he can't turn this around. well, mostly, i'm sure there's a chance. if i was in that position i'd be trying to put up false associatives with town to score the game-winning mislynch.
so, in that position, the current options proposed would be me gladiating him, or him gladiating Penguin. let's assume Penguin is town as your post proposes, Varsoon. of course UT would want him over me as his 1v1 target.
a scum UT doesn't have the luxury of getting a TvT gladiate happening, is the bottom line."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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what do you mean by town common denominator? (if not that "there's town in the three of you somewhere")In post 2866, Varsoon wrote:It's kinda interesting because I am absolutely sure that if one of you three is scum, then there's gotta be a town common denominator between you all."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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that's an interestng proposal, considering you'd be my first pick for that elusive third scum (assuming 1 scum in us three, scum Gamma, and then you).
and i'm trying to understand, but still not sure i get it. scum, unless bussing for some reason, want to gladiate a town they can mislynch... not someone who would be townread as town. the two conditions seem to contradict each other. am i missing something?"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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yes, and i'm sorry about that. the good news is i'm trying now, and so i doubt i'll be mislynched unless town makes a really bad gladiate.
Penguin really doesn't have any content, but UT has posts like the one about Cakez's reaction to the flip, and his followup after i questioned it. (posts i find a bit scummy).
speaking of, why was Cakez nightkilled? i'm asking because i don't know if he was very townread or not."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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my position on the matter is everything will be fine provided i actually pick scum to gladiate. i don't want to hit town here.
the odds are pretty low, since Nancy is being towny. you're also being pretty towny, but i've misread you once in the past. (i was scum at the time but it was a genuine read).
pedit: i'll take that to mean he wasn't being townread.
so it's a pretty strange kill. he also wasn't an "Arthur with no sword" guess kind of candidate, i think.
i don't know what to make of it though.
peditx2: maybe it was that."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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i don't. i townread you the most, followed by Varsoon and then Gamma.In post 2881, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Why do you scumread Gamma and Varsoon?
I’m gonna assume you hard townread Dunn?
i hard townread Dunn because i trust Maria's read."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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thanks for the answer on Cakes Nancy, makes sense.
2853 was answering UT's question."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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i also want to hear from Penguin but as it stands i know what i'm doing.
Maria's also correct. :>"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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Penguin needs a prod, but i'm doing this anyway."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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that would have been a great moment to throw out a scumread that isn't consensus and do something fun, but i don't have a good one and, also, am kind of a coward at heart."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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if Maria isn't conftown, it does make me feel much less happy about the gamestate right now. because it opens up Dunnstral scum too and means i have to actually read him. and Maria."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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ok.
Dunn is still town, Maria would have said something if she had any worries about that being wrong to think.
i imagine Kokichi has explaining to do.
UT being town sucks."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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i'm throwing out my reads on those 4 and trying again."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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loose null/scum reads from me on PoE i'm not townreading are exactly in my wheelhouse and the prove is literally every game i'm in. what's atypical?In post 2941, PenguinPower wrote:Chara - why the null/loose scum read on me? Atypical."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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because based on my townreads on Varsoon and Nancy, UT had to be scum. he's town so i was wrong somewhere and i need to try and work on that with fresh eyes as much as i can.In post 2945, Dunnstral wrote:
And why are you resetting your reads?In post 2940, Chara wrote:i'm throwing out my reads on those 4 and trying again."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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why isn't Varsoon in this post?In post 2956, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Here’s my tinfoil theory. Scum figured out Maria was really Merlin and is trying to frame Kokichi for it but it’s blatantly obvious that Maria knew he was Merlin, or she 100% would have exposed him
So, scum might be someone who wanted to get him mislynched and kill me, the next obvtown tonight.
So, who, figured it out? That’s likely scum.
But It’s not hard, we remove us from the pile and you then have Dunn, Gamma and Penguin and Chara, right?
So,we force 2 of those 4 to gladiate today.
HURT: Penguin"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
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forgot about this. so Varsoon is your strongest townread, which is why he wasn't mentioned.In post 2950, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I’m town, so my strongest townread is Varsoon?"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
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Nancy, do you have any scum games you could link me?"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
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yes. i just had UT as most likely scum out of those three in the PoE.
i know we need to lynch 2 out of 3, but just going "oh well let's lynch Gamma and Penguin" would be an easy way to lose if one of them is town, and the third uncaught scum is helping direct lynches.
so i'm redoing my reads."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
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actually that would be second and third uncaught scum, wouldn't it.
though i don't think it's likely Nancy and Varsoon are both scum, it's possible.
right now i'm leaning Nancy as my other townread, but i need to be sure."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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i don't have a strong scumread. it's rare that i do. my townhunting is better than my scumhunting, so that's what i'm focusing on until i come up with something i feel i can trust on the scumread front."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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there's only six people left in the lynchpool. remove myself and Dunnstral, and it's just four. if i find the other town among that, i know who all the scum are. that just seems easier to me than trying to find one scummy player, who could be scummy town that the remaining scum want us to mislynch.
and on the off and bad chance Dunnstral actually is scum, methodically going through every player besides Kokichi still gives a better chance of hitting scum if i avoid lynching the ones i think are more likely town."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
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i'd like to hear you revisit this line of thought Varsoon, considering the flip, and what you proposed later regarding UT wanting to gladiate Penguin.In post 2837, Varsoon wrote:I dunno, I don't think scum Chara ever proposes a gladiate on town here because we've got an extra day anyway, so it'd just get them lynched D5.
So Chara's either town with whatever UT is
or Chara and UT is scum and it's a bus that buys us more time regardless.
I'm for it."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
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it didn't. Dunn's been out of my lynchpool since yesterday because Maria's read on him trumps any i might come up with.
you're my strongest townread based on my own independent read."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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this too. you used the logic for why you thought i was town then, but why not UT? he did the same thing i had, which was propose a gladiate (as opposed to actually doing so).In post 2861, Varsoon wrote:So, same thing turned around to you, Chara:
Do you think that UT, as scum, proposes the gladiate be between themselves and town when the townflip looks really bad for them here and we've got another day to play?
why didn't you townread UT's doing it? why did you townread my doing it?"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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i think it was actually Kokichi saying Maria wasn't Arthur. or at least part of it. scum probably figured out a switch had occurred, or at least that Merlin was engaging in WIFOM. they might have taken a risk on that.In post 2973, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
What’s your take on the Maria NK?In post 2972, Chara wrote:it didn't. Dunn's been out of my lynchpool since yesterday because Maria's read on him trumps any i might come up with.
you're my strongest townread based on my own independent read.
i have another theory about the Maria nk, which is a bit more awkward to say because having her dead means she can't 100% read me as town when it really matters. and for the same reason, she'd be good to have dead if i were scum here.
it's probably the first, the second is less likely because it would require the scumteam to know that fact and apply it."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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i actually forgot you were in Overkill. or that you were SK in it.
now that i'm reminded, hi. i still forgot."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
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and when i asked that i was sort of hoping for multiple links. hence games and not game.
though it's true i did forget. i don't know what to say except is it some kind of scum strategy to pretend like i hadn't seen your scumgame?"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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i already said why, Nancy. i said i wanted to be sure about you. and i explained i like to townhunt.In post 2987, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I don’t necessarily agree with Varsoon’s Chara read. Why does he ask for a scumgame from his #1 “independent” townread?"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
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this conclusion makes sense. i should probably have more to say about it and i might in the morning. i think i'd do it as scum but i see where you came to the conclusion and that's what matters.In post 2977, Varsoon wrote:@Chara: I think I'm biased about you given my particular experience with you in games I have modded, which is something that I struggle with around pretty much any player.
Like how I was sure Cerb was 3P in the recent Overkill game because his play was reminding me so much of SaGa Frontier and since I have such a tonal baseline for RR as a hydra due to something like 10+ games modded of theirs.
I still don't think you propose a gladiate on town UT if you're scum. That sort of play is much more in UT's wheelhouse.
It's why I think that if you're scum here, you're playing a tonally consistent town game but taking measures that I'd not expect, either out of WIFOM or desperation.
I also don't see you advising a shot on potential BP after taking such a huge risk move.
That's why I think it's more likely that others are scum before you are, and if they advised/orchestrated/coached your play, that'd make sense to me.
this might be my unwarranted frustration talking but i don't know how i can sort you from Nancy. if you're scum you're playing a good game. and she's reminded me that i wrongly townread her in Overkill for her emotional posting. i had to stop and think about it, i have a bad habit of remembering my reads on players in past games instead of their actual alignments.
the fact that i forgot she was scum in a game we were just in because i'd read her as town just kind of decimated my own confidence in that townread and now i don't know where to go from here.
part of me wants to latch onto you here because i'd think scum Varsoon wouldn't have wanted to lock himself out of the Chara mislynch. but (assuming Dunn's town) you could be scum with Nancy and have an easier mislynch target in either Gamma or Penguin, because you know i'm not a mislynchable player."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
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1) i have a bad memory.In post 3005, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
How would you forget a game that recent?In post 3001, Chara wrote:i actually forgot you were in Overkill. or that you were SK in it.
now that i'm reminded, hi. i still forgot.
But okay, why do you ask for a link to a scumgame from your #1 “independent” townread?
I don’t see why UT green flip, ought to affect that.
Do you have familiarity with Penguin’s, Dunn’s, Gamma’s, Varsoon’s scumgames, and if so, how recent were any of them?
Also, why are you so convinced Maria’s read on Dunn is correct, when she wrongly scumread 3/4 players?
NK15 doesn’t count and no one gets towncred for scumreading that slot. He obviously volunteered to eat a lynch. Had he any intention of surviving, he would have gladiated, UT/Penguin over Sir Cakes. NK lynch was clearly a voluntary scum-coordinated effort.
2) i explained this.
3) it doesn't. also answered this before.
4) the only one i remember is Dunnstral. it was recent, we were scum together.
5) Maria's record of reading Dunn specifically is really really good. she's been right in every game i've been with them together."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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like. i have a really, really bad memory. i want to stress that. i forget my own reads in games i'm currently in and have to reread my own ISO."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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no, i saw Varsoon scum recently too. i'm sure i've seen Gamma scum but i don't remember where. i misread Varsoon in his scumgame."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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asking you for a scumgame wasn't me thinking you were scum. it was wanting to reaffirm my own townread which was based on what i thought was really honest posting from you and from towngames i'd seen from you.
lack of confidence in my own reads aside."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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