How about incredibly unlucky?In post 3749, BrightEyedFish wrote:The timing of this post feels... convolutedIn post 3746, Nev and Max wrote:We should do the mod a favor and just lynch the dead slot. Who the fuck is replacing into a 150pg game on day 2?In post 3673, Ramcius wrote:Don't you think it's better to wait for Theta's replacement before lynching that slot?
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I've been keeping up more on my main profile, and I keep stopping myself from main slipping. I didn't feel like adding much and have been waiting on Max. I popped in the thread and saw the replace, commented on it and then finished catching up.In post 3753, BrightEyedFish wrote:
But still.In post 3752, Something_Smart wrote:I think the timing's just funny, they obviously hadn't read and it's not reflective of anything else
It had been 4 days since Nev last posted and all of a sudden they come on an leave a comment on on this topic a few mins after the mod post. They were either active lurking or they found nothing else interesting in four days of posts.
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And you picked now to do that? Your timing is imfuckingpeccable.In post 3765, Karmeleon wrote:I wanted to do something. To redeem my lack of doing something today.-
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It's just funny to me that you are silent the whole time theta was MIA and then a replacement comes in and you immediately decide to interject yourself into their catch up. Why do you come out of hibernation now?In post 3770, Karmeleon wrote:
A new perspective into the game over hundreds of non-progressive posts? Sure.In post 3768, Nev and Max wrote:
And you picked now to do that? Your timing is imfuckingpeccable.In post 3765, Karmeleon wrote:I wanted to do something. To redeem my lack of doing something today.-
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I'm trying. A lot of this shit is just going over my head. I'm more so looking to see who's making an argument I can back.In post 3818, Alonzo wrote:
Your slot is rubbish.In post 3800, Nev and Max wrote:So this is almost entirely one head, with the other making a spot appearance from time to time.
Do something.-
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I will try to be here today. I have been skimming to keep up. No lies, I am battling some pretty heavy feels right now in my real life. I also don't usually play large games solo, which is kinda what's happened here by circumstance.
Lonzo you should know what scum play looks like from me and what a lack of play looks like. Instead of just sitting back and throwing shots at us every now and then you could engage us and try to sort is that way. Not sure why you think the best course of action with me is to pot shot me from the sidelines.-
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Wait. Karm is actually creature? Is that what you're saying here?In post 4034, UnaBombaH wrote:Karmeleon is Creature.
I do not see town!Creature outing himself when about to be lynched, but maybe that's just me.
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I have told Nev numerous times that this game has some serious fuckery that’s messing with my mind and making it harder to solidify my reads. It’s mainly due to the fact that we don’t really have public vote counts and updated VCs. Which is a major tool that I base off my reads on and how I gather my thoughts etc.
I have some minor town reads and when I was finally caught somewhat up from D1 Nev went MIA. I haven’t caught up and if Nev wants to take control solo I don’t really mind. I haven’t been engaged with this game and I’m not really sure why I can’t.
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In post 4227, PenguinPower wrote:It's still a bit too early, but I don't think Creature is scum.-
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SPICING IT UP YOIn post 4233, Thanos wrote:Why is there lyrics being posted-
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Love her, she was great in The Room.In post 4283, Thanos wrote:
Wow formerfish, didn't know zara larson was your genreIn post 4237, Nev and Max wrote:
SPICING IT UP YOIn post 4233, Thanos wrote:Why is there lyrics being posted-
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Max talked me off the ledge with Creature/Karm, and we are back on Ram. I think that even if scum knew before hand that their ability would become public knowledge that they'd still use it. The chance to be more in control over the minute things we can possibly control in this game would be too much of a temptation not to use. The wifom behind it's implications are enough of a reason to do it.-
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Why are you like defending him.In post 4514, PenguinPower wrote:
He was being snarky.In post 4512, davesaz wrote:Creature, I have a hard time believing you asked if a flipped townie was scum among yesterday's day reps.
That's the kind of fake townslip that scum like to make.
I mean it’s obvious, but you couldn’t wait for him to react
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So the question is are you allowed to post direct quotes from the Boonus Rounds?
Second was that post from CT or Perfomer?
Third I love how you left an important part out. Which is funny because I discussed how the neighborize role in addition to some other things.
Perfomer I know you have never seen me personally in a hydra before nor has CT. But I don’t like hydras discussing in a chat reads until they are solid. I know that FF wanted to vote creature, but I had told him no because I felt like creature was town. I also have a bunch of little town reads personally here and there, but nothing like super super strong. I had one which was NC, creature and Profi.
I have history myself with Alonzo. He’s hard for me to read and he has pushed me in games with really shitty logic which I wasn’t feeling this game, but then it’s differnt because I’m still a ~secret~ head.*
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Let’s be real this game mechanics fucks up the way I scum hunt. I scum hunt hauling the following: RVS, EoD votes wagons using a Page by Page vote count leading up to the EoD with POE, Meta tells.
This game is harder to do that because we don’t have a solid VC pxp nor did we have an RVS. I’m finding it a bit difficult to keep up.
I really started to think you were town during our Boonus game, but I already know this is going to feel OMGUS and frankly I don’t care, but I’m starting to debate that my gut feeling during that was wrong.
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I feel like this is a horrible mischaracterization of what went down in that thread, but you seem to have an agenda, so please go on.In post 4570, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Alonzo's ISO regarding n&m, his last vote on n&m on pg 180 for eod 2, and what transpired in our boonus room on n2 last night - I'm debating if that's just too coincidental to be scum or if it means that hydra IS scum. Already decided, I put a vote on n&m in our private thread.
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Hey everyone. So last night we were one of three contestants chosen for the N2 BOONus room c. Contestants were n&m, pp, ourselves. All prizes were permanent and won't affect night actions until the next night phase. We could gift a +1 & the prize to another player, if we won that round - the player wouldn't be informed who gave them the gift(s).
There were 3 choices in our case for us to pick from, based on if we won:
• Macho - A player with this modifier cannot be protected from any night kills.
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Grilled n&m on their reads. They kept stalling, stating they were catching up and portraying that they were all confused. The only 2 people they brought up were EJ & Alonzo.
They haven't fully caught up?! They've been in the game since the beginning, they're not a replacement.
Also , judging by replies like "wow people think im mala well maybe theyre wrong," they've clearly been keeping up. The fact that they're trying hard to remove associative tells, is also another fire alarm on the dance floor.
They kept reiterating fluff with posts like the following:
"I'm saying that I dont have any good leads of my own so I am trying to find some things to bite into"
"Lonzo is not playing with me as I would expect town him to play. And he isn't pushing me like he does when he actually thinks I'm scum. He's treating me with kids gloves it seems while poking at me simultaneously"
"I’m going to post reads. We just got posted for two hours and I’m going to try to do some ISOs. It’s just I hate hydra disco so I might float it through Ff first"
"Anyone want to talk about Elsa claiming Miller but hinting at traitor?"
"Why is he (alonzo) town? Like what are the actual arguments for him being town?
I guess it comes down to this. He pushed a meta case on d1 and got the lynch. All he is doing is pushing a meta case on me and taking shots at us from time to time.
Lonzo and I have played a lot of games together recently, mostly newbie, and I feel like he would be able to read me better. I need to look back at our games because I know there was one where he won as scum after buddying me pretty hard.
I'm probably not explaining this too well, but the way that he is "engaging" me is shallow and superficial. He says shit about my posts not doing g it for him but refuses to enage with me directly.
I don't really have a set scum meta that he could point to right now, and his default towards me should be someone willing to work with me, and I don't see that here. I see a show of him acting like he wants stuff from us, but then doesn't do anything with what we try to do."
"I haven’t fully caught up. I was planning to ISO people for the most part and going over it with FF"
Also, really not cool with you copy and pasting from the private thread to this one like that. Are you even allowed to copy and paste from there into here?
And why the fuck would I talk about seeing how Lonzo could be scum and then kill him overnight? If we are scum wouldnt we have been trying to get you guys on our side on him and make a push for him today?-
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I love me some good fiction too...
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You know its funny. We were the ones trying to talk last night in the room because both max and I agreed that since we were feeling overwhelmed in the main thread that we could use the mini as a sort of intro piece. We tried talking about some of our reads, but no one really posted back to us. Even after Max outed in the mini no one really responded. We didnt want to say anything at day start because we wanted to see where the pressure came from on us and if it came from a slot outside the mini.In post 4600, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Going off what I've seen itt & from interactions with n&m. Also, I know who the hydra is & the way they spoke about alonzo & ej is way suspicious.
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We played and lost.In post 4607, The Last Knight wrote:
I think it would help to know BOONus round winners so we can at least attempt to figure out the day rep theory. We need a bigger sample size. I still haven't been involved in a BOONus round too, so it helps me know what's going on. But I won't press much if people don't feel like sharing.In post 4504, RCEnigma wrote:
It could block scum from using their nominations so I don't see a problem with it.In post 4502, davesaz wrote:
I think it's a massive wifom and not worth any more posts.In post 4493, BrightEyedFish wrote:
I think it's a good idea to know how the day reps are chosen.In post 4490, Nero Cain wrote:Aren't we not supposed to be outting winners though?
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Watch out for Perf, he gonna be on you something fierce real soon.In post 4656, Kokichi Oma wrote:if im being honest, i have read maybe 2 pages out of 187-
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By mislynching town? So this is you being cheaky scum and admitting exactly what you're doing?In post 4672, mcqueen wrote:
Ff i love you but im tryna winIn post 4668, Nev and Max wrote:I love me some good fiction too...
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This post is weird and the line of thinking that led Mc to claim is questionable. Like, if Mc is town, why wouldnt he let PP out whatever info he had over MC knowing that the info would be false and even if Mc got lynched as a result, PP would die instantly the next day after we find out he was lying.In post 4675, mcqueen wrote:
Again, i think ur town, but ur other post really has me worried. If ur town and think we’re of a different alignment... well then ur not town at allIn post 4669, PenguinPower wrote:
Not revisiting D2 today. I presented my reasons then. I'm also open to changing my mind. My focus today is elsewhere, so let me do that.In post 4667, mcqueen wrote:Why don’t you think I’m town. You really think i bsed my way through d1? I’ve been as transparent as possible and just because i was unsure of who i wanted to lynch at a critical time does not mean i dont believe what im saying
So you claim? Fuck that.
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In post 3807, mcqueen wrote:Well seeing as how I have 4-5 votes off memory (CD, ENG, profii, Xtoxm, and possibly Nero), I am gonna go ahead and claim. I’m VT-
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Max and I talked about it and we agreed that we would trust the people in the room with us because we had a smaller sample size to work with and we both felt town vibes from the other 2. There was an issue with one head and another that needed to be worked out and to do that we needed to out some info. I thought that the situation was handled and past us, but ::shrug::In post 4694, mcqueen wrote:Something I don't understand; why did you reveal who your hydra was in the BOONus room, but still haven't done so here? Like you have every right to keep it secret, but just something about you doing that makes you seem less like town. I know this is FF when there's no signature, but still, if we knew who your other head was, officially, maybe it would help with meta and let me sort you.
The Alonzo thing is weird because one of you (I think M) made a good point in questioning why you'd try to bring suspicion to Alonzo and then immediately kill him if you were scum. However, it appears M did most of the talking in the BOONus room, and I have no idea who that is, nor have they been very active (unlike you FF), so I'm not obliged to trust M, whereas I am moreso with FF. Which brings me back to the point I made above.
We didnt say anything today to see where that info came from. Perf didnt wait long to hang those dirty dangles out there and then shy away from going over the ledge didnt he?
Max was active while the Boonus game went on, I came in later. We were both talking, no one really seemed interested in conversing with us. After we both posted and said some shit the thread went dark. And I brought up a theory on Lonzo becuase of our past history. PP asked if I could show where Lonzo bussed in the past and I did. Then nothing was said about it. Why the fuck would I push that hard on a slot im complicit in killing?
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Did you forget? It just seems weird that you would freak out over PP having some info on you that you snap claimed. Why wouldnt you have just pointed back to your prior VT claim...?In post 4695, mcqueen wrote:
Exactly, so if I already claimed, what is your point?In post 4690, Nev and Max wrote:Sure did Max.-
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I mean yeah, and then how you used those points as explination of how you are actually the miller. I mean, regardless your slot needs to be sorted at some point, it was more me talking about how the recruit might happen and how we would need to watch out for a missing nk.In post 4700, Elsa Jay wrote:What gave away the possibility of me being a traitor? Me literally bolding it in the thread and telling mafia not to shoot me?-
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My phone has a typo that happens from time to time. They copy and pasted my typo into their post.In post 4699, PenguinPower wrote:Did Cheeky/Perf actual quote from the PT? I don't see that.-
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If you look at the mini game youll see that Perf was the one who came into the game with a chip on his shoulder regarding Mala. Going as far to use the mini game as a pulpit of sourts for Lonzo scum reading us in the main game. Then I thought He and Mala made up or at least came to a realization that the situation between them wasnt as serious as it seemed to be. The question about being caught up is explained and isnt how Perf portrayed it in his bastardization of the intentions of our posting in his naughty copy and pasting of posts (tisk tisk, by the way).
Then I came in, realized the game was over and immediately tried to engage the others in the thread. I posted ideas and backed them up with evidence (in the case I was building against Lonzo), got a question or two and answered those and then nothing. So not at all how Perf made it seem.
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Boon said hed keep this open for a day.
Ive only seen the unrecruitable variant once. The other times ive seen them theyve all been able to be recruited. We might just have different experience with that role...-
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Ok sure, I can try. This post here:In post 4709, mcqueen wrote:Can you explain this better? I snap claimed? I reiterated my claim from earlier, and pointed out I never received amy type of modifier that would make me appear guilty (not sure if that modifier exists generally, what it’s called, or if it’s in this game, but I decided to include that sentence in the possibility that it is)
doesnt sound like the posting of someone who is reminding someone else that they already claimed VT and therefore would have no way of having a result of any sort. This post sounds like someone who is worried that PP had info that he shouldn't have had or just fear that you'd actually been found out.In post 4671, mcqueen wrote:
Ok this has me worried. I’m VT, and I’ve never been notified that I received any kind of modifier. So there’s no possible way you as town could have investigated me or anything else and gotten me as scum.In post 4665, PenguinPower wrote:Which tbf, I might reval after today.
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Fair enough, im not familiar enough with the ins and outs of roles for each game set, so i'll differ to you on this.In post 4712, Something_Smart wrote:Under normal guidelines, they are defined as unrecruitable. This is a theme game but I think it mostly uses normal roles.-
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In post 4711, RCEnigma wrote:
I don't know the proper thing to call this. But I know, cheeky knows, you know, Alonzo knows... You weren't getting Alonzo lynched this game as either alignment.In post 4653, Nev and Max wrote:And why the fuck would I talk about seeing how Lonzo could be scum and then kill him overnight? If we are scum wouldnt we have been trying to get you guys on our side on him and make a push for him today?
Never said i was going to. I was building a case using his meta which I have extensive knowledge of based on a number of games weve played recently. If they have a spolied dead thread Lonzo is kicking himself for misreading us and possibly allowing scum to benefit from that wrong read by pushing some bullshit on us.
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My counterpoint is this: as a vet I feel like you would have known that the play there should have been for you to let PP say whatever he was going to say knowing that you could hang him if he lies. Instead you panicked imo.In post 4719, mcqueen wrote:
I got scared because I got closed to getting mislynched yesterday. If PP fakes something on me I’m dead. I don’t want to get lynched because I’m town and enjoying the game.In post 4714, Nev and Max wrote:
Ok sure, I can try. This post here:In post 4709, mcqueen wrote:Can you explain this better? I snap claimed? I reiterated my claim from earlier, and pointed out I never received amy type of modifier that would make me appear guilty (not sure if that modifier exists generally, what it’s called, or if it’s in this game, but I decided to include that sentence in the possibility that it is)
doesnt sound like the posting of someone who is reminding someone else that they already claimed VT and therefore would have no way of having a result of any sort. This post sounds like someone who is worried that PP had info that he shouldn't have had or just fear that you'd actually been found out.In post 4671, mcqueen wrote:
Ok this has me worried. I’m VT, and I’ve never been notified that I received any kind of modifier. So there’s no possible way you as town could have investigated me or anything else and gotten me as scum.In post 4665, PenguinPower wrote:Which tbf, I might reval after today.
I don't know if PP remembered the claim from yesterday, its an easy thing to miss in this game, so wed have to ask him.
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Yes, a miller claim pretty much has to die at some point. I need to look back and see where Elsa has been at eod voting. Hold on...In post 4724, RCEnigma wrote:I agree if you're saying having Elsa around is bad for town.
Day 1 ended on Theta
Day 2 ended on Ram.
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In post 4729, RCEnigma wrote:Well she's voting against town so ...problem solved I guess.
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Thats not what I said at all. I just said that a lot (9 of us iirc) voted Ram. I dont know Unas alignment yet, so thats an unknown. A good amount of people seem to be tring Una, and I dont have anything to discount that...In post 4735, RCEnigma wrote:Ram was an all town vote is what you're saying? What about Theta?-
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I agree. Thats why I never put much stock into NKA as town. I feel like scum would be more likely to push it as they could be the ones setting up the scenarios to begin with.In post 4740, RCEnigma wrote:Which is why I'm looking at both the late day 1 push on Theta and the opening day 2 discussion against Theta with the AC kill. There's a scum narrative there in my opinion.-
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Max feels like Perf specfically acted almost as a puppeteer in getting him to claim Mala as a main. Look at the lack of reaction in the mini game from Perf after he finds out. Almost like he needed top get into his scum pt as soon as possible to start working on a plan and possibly even changing the nk to Lonzo for me specifcally.In post 4751, Gamma Emerald wrote:Wait that means CD had to have planned to push you today. Um....
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