BooneyToonz XII: Corporate Boontrigue (Game Over!!!)

[Titus]

VOTE: rosterfoster[/vote]

Tldr, page 2

[Titus]

VOTE: rosterfoster

[Titus]

Hi Gamma. Long time no lynch.

[Titus]

Hi Lil Uzi.

[Titus]

Hey, what's my job then?

[Titus]

why is a no guilty a bad thing?

A yes guilty is more incriminating.

Oh dammit, didn't realise there was a gimmick alt.

Hey. I'm not a gimmick alt. Take that back.

I am an alt, but not a gimmick alt.

I have played with these players before:

Flavor Leaf
Gamma Emerald
Bambi Jay
Lil Uzi Vert
Xtoxm
Almost50
Clemency
rosterfoster
UnaBombaH
Titus
Creature

I have not played with these players before that I know of:

Asuka
Liger_Zero
popsofctown

You're an alt then. Almost certainly.

[Titus]

What part of ‘I am an alt’ did you not read?

Most of it. It's been a long few months.

[Titus]

Opportunistic vote to get wagons going.

VOTE: pops

[Titus]

This town has the collective brain cells of a lemon

This town is in D1. Stating the obvious Gamma?

[Titus]

VOTE: bambi

My evidence is you feel scummy.

[Titus]

My thoughts on the Bambi wagon...

Let it go Let it go
We'll get a scum oh oh

[Titus]

Trying to decipher what ever it is that has happened so far since the start of the day.
Not much other to analyze than some vote patterns I guess, but I'll try to get something out of that at least then.

Yuck

[Titus]

Oh deer, post quantity doesn't equal utility.

Also, today people are sleeping me.

Everyone "gets blame" for a lynch on town. The question is motivation. People tend to know I love wagons just to have them. It's kinda my thing.

Shits and giggles, what's your mastina read?

[Titus]

Zzzz I'm tired. Someone make a "quality" post.

[Titus]

I'll be here more later when I feel human.

For now

VC please

[Titus]

Interesting....

Bambi Jesus Lurker scumteam?

[Titus]

bambi (everything he says feels fake)

We mostly agree on this.

jesus (his vote on pops yday felt opportunistic and his push on me today is yuck)

Agree on his pops-vote.
Still think pushing for you today isn't TOO FAR out there.

roster (lolhammer)

Almost 100% certain this is NAI.
Even Boon lolhammers like a madman as town.

I'll need to reflect on this later. Say in a week or two.

[Titus]

Roster, what's your Bambi read?

[Titus]

The pressure fell on Bambi I bet

[Titus]

Oh and Gamma is a lurker

[Titus]

Btw, I foresee something like this happened in the scum PT:

Titus: Time to hop off me
roster: but I need a new target to vote
roster: I couldn't switch to Bambi straight away. That would have reflected badly on me upon him flipping green.
Titus: OK, hold on. I'll provide you with a reason to vote Bambi that looks less sus

By now, you know that's not my MO as scum.

Why are you focusing so hard at trying me to roster?

This feels like a large, dramatic diversion.

[Titus]

I kinda feel like Bambi roster and A50 might all be scum.

[Titus]

Anyway if you think A50 might be scum you wouldn’t mind voting him would you?

My theory is this is a diversion from Bambi. So I wouldn't mind it but I'd rather lynch deer.

[Titus]

If it was a diversion from Bambi I would’ve stuck with you.

Then this drama couldn't happen, but we can argue these what ifs all day long.

Why do you think Bambi wagon stalled?

[Titus]

Towned it up? Don't think so, but no one really thinks Bambi is town and we have people trying to steer away from her giving useful VCA data.

[Titus]

Can't we agree on a better lynch option instead of roster or Bambi today?

What are the chances of a XT or gamma push instead?

Bambi is a decent lynch imo. Roster is ok.

[Titus]

I am locking Una as town.

[Titus]

Lol yup. Not surprised. Everyone who I've suggested as scum vote trains me when I say the other mislynch wagon is town. Haha.

[Titus]

Look at the VCs and my posts. You suddenly stop lurking and two of the day's major suspects follow you.

[Titus]

I'm trying and failing to understand the Titus wagon.

The only reason I've seen that appears even remotely convincing is regarding her vote on Pop:

Opportunistic vote to get wagons going.

VOTE: pops

But I sort of understand this. I think it's usually a good idea to get wagons started d1 and it's something I could imagine myself doing. Titus was only the third vote on that wagon (due to unvote shenanigans she probably didn't actually have the third vote but it probably wasn't much later than that), so I don't really see it as an opportunistic attempt to get Pops lynched; I think you'd probably need to be able to see into the future to guess that Pops would be lynched d1.

However, if you want to look at opportunistic vote on Pops:

I thought I voted myself to L-3?

I do give a shit, and will claim at actual L-1 and threat to hammer. UNVOTE: Whensoever that happens. Or maybe just actual L-1, because larges and all.

VOTE: popsofctown

It has happened, a real L-1. Claim time.

L1 vote out of absolutely nowhere just to get a claim, or even:

VOTE: pops
i'll do it if it gets you to shut up

Townreads pops and thinks scum is on his wagon but votes the wagon anyway just to, uh, shut up some people?

What makes Titus a better wagon target than either of these people?

Asuka, I have called each and every person on my wagon suspicious as fuck and insinuated they might be a team but to be fair Liger is the lurker.

[Titus]

VOTE: roster

[Titus]

Interesting....

Bambi Jesus Lurker scumteam?

... where did these names (and/or categories of players) even come from?

The VC at the time.

Bambi wagon, chainsaw and off wagon

[Titus]

I think she realized your wagon is the only other option Ros.

How's your readlist looking atm?

Meh, best available at the moment. I'd rather be lynching Bambi but I don't have the time to force it through.

[Titus]

VC 2.5

Deadline is in (expired on 2019-06-04 22:00:00)
Mod notes:

"Not enough time" - 8 days left as she says this...

Lie detected. Credibility ruined. Bambi pleased with herself. Another scum bites the dust.

VOTE: Titus

This is at least the second time you've voted my wagon while already on it.

And yes there are 8 days left but I am not going to be as active during those 8 days.

[Titus]

Everyone on Titus wagon is town (max 1 scum but unlikely) - depending on Titus scum flip.

Suppose I am town, how do your reads change.

Tbh, I think town just gave up this game.

[Titus]

I revote to emphasize the point that everyone should be voting you. Of course I'm already voting you.

"I won't be active" isn't a valid excuse here. You just wanna disappear for a bit for things to cool off.

Frankly your making it easier every post for me to validate murdering you.

It's a common scum tactic to make a wagon appear more popular than it is.

I don't ever want to disappear. You try having a two hour commute, fighting a custody battle as the Godmother, managing infertility, maintaining a social life, dealing with relatives and trying to upgrade the house. Mafia is my fucking escape sometimes, even when wagoned. I never ever use real life as an excuse. Work starts back up tomorrow so at a minimum I have four less hours in a day.

You can try to mislynch me/be wrong but do not question my integrity or love for the game. I am the biggest poster on this site for a reason.

[Titus]

I’m not giving names because I really don’t remember.

This is why there's a wagon on you. You don't give a damn who is wagoning with you?

[Titus]

Titus likely town, Bambi likely scum then.
If people think A50 is not gonna be the lynch today no matter what, we can go Bambi as well.

Why does Titus town make Bambi scum and not wrong town?

Also, can I interest you in roster maybe? I really didn't like the hammer followed by the push for a speedlynch today.

Assuming Roster town

Lean town if Bambi town
Null if Bambi scum

Assuming Roster scum
Strong town if Bambi town (diverting from a t v t to S is strong protown)
Moderate town if Bambi scum
Weak town if Bambi is a strong scum role


I'm between moderate and lean town as those are the two most likely scenarios.

[Titus]

that also didn't really capture why it's bothering me; when i figure out how to articulate it i'll try again

Nah it's a fair complaint that she's coasting but I think 90% of town is coasting to avoid being me.

Bambi had a real scummy start. I used the VC to suggest her buddies. They vote and drown out everything blocking town from seeing things and getting demotivated.

[Titus]

well it's not coasting exactly so much as interacting really weirdly with the thread? or like weird interactions with other people i'm incidentally scumreading? idk

i don't get what you mean by the 'i think 90% of town is coasting to avoid being me'

i kinda like bambi atm cuz his scumreads kinda match mine

how are you reading me rn given that i'm on your wagon?

Honestly, I am reading you as hoodwinked town. Agreement with reads is not AI. It's the authenticity or lack thereof that's AI.

Bambi's been tunneling me ever since I caught his terrible opening to the day. Every post of Bambi's for the most part is not about solving but discrediting me.

Let's compare with you. You're putting questions to me, drawing examples and not afraid to be unclear. You're not showing as much of a malicious agenda in the recent posting.

As for being wierd and weird interactions, that's personality. Intent reveals alignment.

[Titus]

Almost any town knows at this point calling a scumteam just gets you wagoned by them, so why would town try?

[Titus]

Bambi didn't get anywhere. Show me her thought process. It's just her OMGUSing me.

I've been lynched for being wierd so many times. I struggle to ever find it AI.

Scum don't wagon people for calling out teams unless they are right. It has such a chilling effect though.

[Titus]

A good wagon needs good evidence, last I checked.

VOTE: bambi

My evidence is you feel scummy.

My thoughts on the Bambi wagon...

Let it go Let it go
We'll get a scum oh oh

VOTE: Roster

Eventually you'll call me my name. One day. Until then your on my shitlist.

Now let me evaluate you 12 people and see what I get.


rosterfoster
UnaBombaH
Titus


Townreads:
Clemency
Jesus
Lol Uzi (Miller Claim)
Liger (informed townie)

Null Town(?):
Asuka
Almost
Gamma

Null Scum(?):
Xtoxm
Creature
Una

Scummy:
Titus
Roster

Well then. Organizing my thoughts made me realize I dont like any of the people on my wagon. I should look into that.

Notice how 3 players voted him, all are the bottom of his reads. He never mentioned me by name after my vote on him until here.

[Titus]

VC 2.2

Bambi Jay (4)- Xtoxm, Titus, Clemency, Creature
Titus (3)- Bambi Jay, rosterfoster, Almost50
rosterfoster (1)- Asuka
Xtoxm (1)- Jesus Louisus
Almost50 (1)- UnaBombaH


Not voting (3)- Gamma Emerald, Lil Uzi Vert, Liger_Zero

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2019-06-04 22:00:00)

Mod notes: quack quack

Interesting....

Bambi Jesus Lurker scumteam?

OK.. I guess I need to work on my scum game a little then.

So.. do you want me to put Titus @L-1 or would you rather not yet?

Considering this L minus 1 because of life.

I am a roleblocker. I blocked Jesus last night.

[Titus]

i take it you townread me then?

theoretically i'm fine with a l-1 but i like just got here and i don't want the day to end yet; still need to sort some people and i wouldn't be surprised if lolhammers happened in this pl

That's why I claimed.

[Titus]

Oh for that we gotta wait until she answers why she chose you. But if we caught her lying it would've been SO much easier then this.

Day 1 was a flash wagon. Jesus looked the scummiest to my gut based on the flip and votes.

Plus, I got to say I am going to Hell for stopping Jesus. Lol

[Titus]

No limits or gates.

[Titus]

Roleblocker? That WOULD describe the need for a Strongman that Liger mentioned... But that also means claiming it in tandom with that knowledge is a safer bet.

Jeez this makes things weird.

No it really isn't. I'm just town.

[Titus]

Oh for that we gotta wait until she answers why she chose you. But if we caught her lying it would've been SO much easier then this.

Day 1 was a flash wagon. Jesus looked the scummiest to my gut based on the flip and votes.

Plus, I got to say I am going to Hell for stopping Jesus. Lol

You were incidentally on that wagon tho

Yup, but mod told me I was town so I'm a horrible roleblock choice.

Seriously, I start from the supposition that scum influence a mislynch.

[Titus]

Right, but my point is that from my pov you're a pretty good pick for scum influencing that mislynch

Can u talk about ur una read as well?

How is a self-described "opportunistic vote" influencing people to mislynch

My una read comes from how my scumread treat una. I'm getting treated similarly which suggests a similar alignment. Plus, I agree with most of what he says.

[Titus]

I revote to emphasize the point that everyone should be voting you. Of course I'm already voting you.

"I won't be active" isn't a valid excuse here. You just wanna disappear for a bit for things to cool off.

Frankly your making it easier every post for me to validate murdering you.

^ bambi is pushing that titus is lying about her real life as opposed to uh, like, actually not being able to be active? i think this, along with the thing where he's pushing titus for being incorrect about the playerlist, is enough to show that bambi here is probably scum trying to push through a ML on titus through any angle he can rather than town looking at this in good faith. I'm comfortable on this wagon.

VOTE: Bambi Jay

VOTE: Bambi Jay

[Titus]

I'm trying and failing to understand the Titus wagon.

Do you find Titus efforts for wagons to be actually trying to sort things? I don't think she is sorting or actually has real reads. She seems to be hiding behind VCA to make pseudo reads than actually analyzing people

I don't understand what you mean? I don't think Titus has done nearly as much VCA as you're implying; she hasn't done that much analysis either, but it's not like she has no reads: she did say pretty explicitly that Bambi's early game felt scummy to her. Just using VCA is normal for Titus and I don't understand why that's scummy. You seem to catch this idea in 683; I don't even think that post is really VCA, rather she's saying that her major suspects jumped on her, and like, she's right. She suspected Bambi before Bambi suspected her. She suspected Jesus before Jesus suspected her, and I think you're meant to fit the ambiguous lurker role there. At the time, there were 2 wagons; the one on bambi and on roster. She said she liked the bambi wagon and thought that roster was okay (in context I think this is best interpreted as meaning roster's play has been okay i.e it's not worth wagoning him.) In reaction her two srs jumped on her along with a player that fit her profile as scum. I think that post is a reasonable reaction and I don't really get what you're seeing in this argument.

Pocketed.

[Titus]

@Bambi, Who would you pick in my place? The opportunistic guy who has it right or the person who has vilified you at every turn, is still voting you, and has no discussion of reads?

Some self reflection is in order if you think I am town. How did this happen?

[Titus]

The only Person who's kept a consistent vote on me so far besides you is Clemency who basically gives no fucks about this game atm, and I can't scumread that. Worst case scenario it's a policy lynch which isn't appitizing.

I don't even know where the last VC is or the current votes now.

UNVOTE:

Ausuka jumping on me only after you had claimed is scummy though. You realize that, right?

Not ideal not not scummy.

If you want me to consider you as town, you'll need some self-reflection on how this happened.

[Titus]

Now, regarding Titus...
I'm honestly not sure what to say anymore.
Other than I think that one of Titus/Bambi should be scum.
SHOULD BE, because I dislike the idea that town!Titus wouldn't be able to sniff out scum at this point.

While I stand by Bambi scum, I think most people know I'm better later.

Bambi, suppose I am town. Who is scum? How were you mislead? I need you to answer this if town.

[Titus]

A50 + Titus + Skitter would be a scumteam that would make me cringe so hard my teeth would fall off.

If that was ever the case the game would be over already!

I've never had a team with Skitter. I'd want to though.

[Titus]

I didn't. I voted pops to get wagon data and start the game.

[Titus]

Happy Birthday Skitter, what gift do you want?

[Titus]

VC please

[Titus]

everyone thought it was a good idea to be on you after me, it felt right.

Who do you think of these people is scum?

[Titus]

We should lynch bambi.

[Titus]

VLA until Saturday

[Titus]

Heck, you just said it's to side with Titus. Because when in doubt, strengthen the PRs response.

I wonder why Bambi keeps painting this narrative where scum are focused on getting Titus to scumread someone she has scumread for this entire dayphase.

+1

I lead the Bambi wagon and I take responsibility for it.

[Titus]

You do realize una is likely scumdriven as we've been in lockstep all day.

[Titus]

You do realize una is likely scumdriven as we've been in lockstep all day.

Well i'm town and i think creature is more likely town than not so ...
Which of the two of us do you think is scum?

I'm saying your wagon is scumdriven, meaning the players pushing you.

[Titus]

I am sick. I confused skitter and una

[Titus]

Feel better!

Ok so given the una wagon (me/creature) do u think anyone on it is scum?

No. I think it's Bambi and rooster's fallback they push

[Titus]

Roster, the survivalist part of me says to vote the shit out of you for that comment. The more logical half says you shading me means a human shield if I am wrong on you.

[Titus]

Okay.

I'm already finding the gamestate very strange with how I'm seeing where we should be at from this small piece.

What is the general reasoning behind these wagons?

Bambi Jade scumclaimed at start of day, she got wagoned. People backed off "to avoid a second quicklynch". Scum OMGUSed me. Roster showed signs of being Bambi partner/townbeard. I get put to L minus 1. Claim.

Votes divide onto Roster Bambi and Xtoxm.

That's a rough summary of d2 fmpov.

[Titus]

VOTE: bambi

My evidence is you feel scummy.

My thoughts on the Bambi wagon...

Let it go Let it go
We'll get a scum oh oh

Lmfao.

Flavor: Don't visit me I'm PGO.

Mafia: Let's kill Flavor anyway.

What a fun time.

All hail the Monkey man.

Did Flavor spook the Mafia into accidentally killing him? Besides him starting Pops Wagon I don't remember any reads of his.

You assumed mafia shot flavor. It could have easily been a vig who shot flavor and I blocked the mafia kill by blocking jesus.

You also started crowing about wagons needing evidence.

I don't remember the official name of this tell but it's akin to the "good job" scum tell. It's not 100% accurate but it's enough to feel scummy.

[Titus]

You hadn’t claimed roleblocker yet?

Your claim is the only thing keeping me from voting you.

Context?

[Titus]

You assumed mafia shot flavor. It could have easily been a vig who shot flavor and I blocked the mafia kill by blocking jesus.

How the hell was Bambi supposed to know that you were a roleblocker?

She didn't have to. There are enough roles where such a complaint is a common suggestion of scum. It's not 100% though.

[Titus]

For instance, doctor and jailkeeper.

[Titus]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ding_Mafia

Day 2 and beyond

[Titus]

Speaking of that, if you thought you BLOCKED the Mafia kill and think a vigilante shot Flavor for some reason, doesn't that mean you'd be voting Jesus? Logical fallacy discovered.

Focusing on me all day hasn't done you any favors.

I didn't know if it was true or not. Hence why I can't state with 100 percent certainty. Otherwise, I would have came out blazing on Jesus.

[Titus]

I townread rosterfoster now regardless of the wagon on him.

Then join bambi or make a better position. Bambi is flailing here.

I also wouldn't mind Jesus to test the theory Bambi proposed ironically.

[Titus]

Hey Titus.

Answer my question.

Yes. My iso does that. Normally I do more detail but I am being picky bc sick tired.

[Titus]

If you'd have even read my reads you'd notice I had a check on Jesus and always put him as town for a reason.

Now can we focus on the matter at hand?

What now?

[Titus]

Oh so you're definitely just a vanilla cop? Interesting, I'll have to think over that.

Why would you think vanilla cop?

[Titus]

I heard there was a Titus wagon.

Why did that get derailed again?

My claim. Scum didn't want to hammer a pr or bus Bambi jesus rooster or luger but rooster might be town.

[Titus]

Since you'll call bullshit or something hardclaiming now.

You guys just love hunting for roles don't ya.

In a booneytoonz games most players have power roles though? Softing PR doesn't really do much.

Well it seems like this game will follow the trend because I'm a Vanilla Cop.

Ok so jesus can be goon but I think this is scum rolecop.

[Titus]

Bbl

[Titus]

Unvote.

Bambi is probably town.

Bambi's not motherfucking town. Jesus is her goon most likely.

She tries to clear Jesus using something no rational player would get called on as a clear and then has an excuse in case Jesus flips.

VOTE: Jesus

They've been coming at me all day because I'm right.

[Titus]

Its called being me

Um.. erm.. being who??

That's DOCTOR Who to you.

Nice doctor crumb Bambi.

[Titus]

Well Titus basically put the ball on Jesus with that. If he was a PR needing results he'd know she's legit but if he doesn't get pure results or indication of a roleblock we can't be sure.

It's called "looking at the claim roleblocked to see if they can confirm or deny it".

Does a person who knows Jesus is a VT or Goon make these posts?

[Titus]

It's called "looking at the claim roleblocked to see if they can confirm or deny it".

Sorry, I can't be of assistance in that regard. But even if I could how would that settle Titus's alignment.

Jesus nearly confirms his VT or Goon or Scum status here anyway.

Going back to Bambi. Fuck it.

VOTE: Bambi

[Titus]

So in your world Titus, Bambi claims vanilla cop. Jesus calls him out and says he is lying. And all of that was scum theatre?

And who is "they" after you here?

Highly not likely to happen because Bambi fakeclaimed after the posts I quoted.

[Titus]

I have a hard time understanding what you are saying. He just admitted he fake claimed.

Damn it. I can't keep up while sick.

So bambi gets run up and fakeclaims and our response is to go elsewhere? He's been doing active scum shit all the damn thread.

[Titus]

Does Titus have a completed town game since returning to the site?

I don't remember any offhand.

Not any with an early game.

So you're an alt. None when I'm this sick so meta's a hard out.

[Titus]

Glad to see you're paying attention Titus.

I'm an open alt.

I'm tring with deadline close but I can barely move or think. I still pray that a vig shoots Bambi. I'll hammer whatever to ensure a lynch but Bambi needs to die.

[Titus]

I have a hard time understanding what you are saying. He just admitted he fake claimed.

Damn it. I can't keep up while sick.

So bambi gets run up and fakeclaims and our response is to go elsewhere? He's been doing active scum shit all the damn thread.

I don't really think the fake-claim means much here. I believe Blake when she said this is something he would do as either alignment.

But I still want to know, who is the "they" you keep referring to when you say that scum have been on you all day. Is it jesus and bambi? What do you think of their last page interactions?

You roster Jesus Bambi

Been explained by both me and asuka already. Since you're not risk, try to read.

[Titus]

Why is blake not scum if she also thinks there isn't a reason to townread you here?

Because Blake uses meta which is garbage. I answer the questions because I'm not a dick to townread but she's never going to read me well if she wants meta doubly so in an abhorrent time.

[Titus]

1124 risk should be sick

[Titus]

Why is blake not scum if she also thinks there isn't a reason to townread you here?

Because Blake uses meta which is garbage. I answer the questions because I'm not a dick to townread but she's never going to read me well if she wants meta doubly so in an abhorrent time.

But you just said you didn't know who Blake was?? How do you know how she is reading you?

She asked for my meta.

[Titus]

Does Titus have a completed town game since returning to the site?

I don't remember any offhand.

Not any with an early game.

So you're an alt. None when I'm this sick so meta's a hard out.

[Titus]

Unvote.

Bambi is probably town.

Bambi's not motherfucking town. Jesus is her goon most likely.

She tries to clear Jesus using something no rational player would get called on as a clear and then has an excuse in case Jesus flips.

VOTE: Jesus

They've been coming at me all day because I'm right.

Why are you voting Jesus over Bambi then?

I quickly changed back. I just broke for a second, because I get tired of failing against stupidity and all my mood improvements go down when sick.

[Titus]

So because someone else said that once in an entirely different game Creature is scum for saying it here.

I know how crazy I sound but Liger has pretty much only defended Bambi here.

[Titus]

Yes, I think Bambi is town here, Titus.

Based on what?
Her fake doc crumb
Her partial scumtell
Her behavior around my claim
Her fake claim of vanilla cop
The major omgus onto me/creature

What about this warrants the whiteknight at the expense of scumhunting?

[Titus]

Yes, I think Bambi is town here, Titus.

Based on what?
Her fake doc crumb
Her partial scumtell
Her behavior around my claim
Her fake claim of vanilla cop
The major omgus onto me/creature

What about this warrants the whiteknight at the expense of scumhunting?

Based on various things including mindset and behavior. What scumtell are you talking about? And how was her behavior around your claim scummy?

The rest I don't think mean anything.

I literally just explained the scum tell earlier. I even included a wiki link.

Bambi tried to role fish Jesus as a result of the claim.

What about the things I quoted indicate a town mindset that warrants your near exclusive whiteknighting and chainsawing?

[Titus]

uhh actually I don't think bambi can be scum unless jesus is too :/

UNVOTE:

If Bambi's town, which I doubt, we should rope Liger for the whiteknight.

[Titus]

Doesn't white knighting refer to scum defending town? If you think I am doing that, I don't know why you are on the Bambi wagon.

I need more votes.

[Titus]

So you would rather lynch someone you think I am hard-defending is town rather than vote a person you think is actually scum?

Misleading. If Bambi's town, your whiteknight should lead you to be roped. However your definition of whiteknight is fundamentally flawed in that town can whiteknight town.

You do zero scumhunting and your ISO is nearly exclusively Bambi defense or chainsaw.

[Titus]

You just sound like you want a lynch on someone who is running arguments counter to you.

I don't care about how I sound, I care about lynching scum. You care about semantic bullshit and deflecting from answering what makes Bambi so town?

[Titus]

bambi and jesus are just equivalent to masons here actually: I don't see that one is scum without the other.

idk I hate this gamestate. I reallllllly don't want to.reward bambi's play but is it gt to ignore this???

I don't think.it's creature,like at all

I believe there's a strongman and.jnformed makes sense with a setup themee around that , can liger realy be red here?

Has liger scumhunted? I'd do it.

[Titus]

felt genuine when he was trying to gamesollve with me earlier.

Where? Please quote.

[Titus]

Creature is town.

I agree. Liger thoughts?

[Titus]

Long story short, I think the very short day one has made people chase their tails throughout most of the day, and I'm still baffled as to how someone as scummy as Titus managed to snake out of her wagon with a

roleblocker

claim of all things.

How can you think I'm scummy yet agree with most of my reads?

[Titus]

If you just assume that Liger_Zero is town, then the team literally can only be Titus + Jesus Louisus + Ausuka.

How does this work?

Second, how does a large scumteam contain 3 people?

Wouldn't the more rational conclusion be Liger isn't town?

[Titus]

If you just assume that Liger_Zero is town, then the team literally can only be Titus + Jesus Louisus + Ausuka.

How does this work?

Second, how does a large scumteam contain 3 people?

Wouldn't the more rational conclusion be Liger isn't town?

I'm working with the reads I have currently. I don't care about a fourth currently.

This answers nothing.

[Titus]

For the record, if Jesus Louisus is Nero Cain, that slot is still scum.

Wouldn't Nero work his magic more with our history? I'd love to be right and would lynch but I don't think he's Nero.

[Titus]

Again you haven’t given me examples of how Bambi couldn’t keep up this content as scum <3

Aren't I the legendary counterpoint as scum can spam too? Personality and volume are linked.

[Titus]

Ank has been telling me that Bambi isn't capable of this content and tone as scum. There isn't that much content IMO.

Who is Ank?

[Titus]

the move confirms JL as Town if Bambi is scum

Elaborate please.

[Titus]

VOTE: A50

I don't care how much heat this gets me. That kinda shit is garbage.

I am just beginning to think site meta has finally reverted to brainless fucking town.

[Titus]

I'm stopping at the top of page 34.

If you just assume that Liger_Zero is town, then the team literally can only be Titus + Jesus Louisus + Ausuka.

Everybody else is at least a moderate townread to me except for skitter30, who I never have a strong read on anyways.

Jesus Louisus votes, please.

How is me being town mean that is only possible scum team?

First sign of scumhunting, maybe there is hope.

[Titus]

Easy to resolve.

Mod: Did the vote in 1226 count?

[Titus]

I'm always glad to see the dominant lynch targets being all my townreads.

It makes me feel all fuzzy inside.

VOTE: Jesus

Fuck it. I feel the town meta has shifted away from logic. Therefore the more a player makes me RIP my hair out and act inconsistently, the more likely they are town.

Pr maybe a vig can handle Bambi. Would still hammer though.

[Titus]

Well if we infer Bambi isn't lying scum (so town or honest scum), then there's only three common roles eligible. The most common town role (withheld) doesn't fit with Jesus's play. The non-alignment suggestive one likely means my death. Then the scummy one actually makes Bambi's role less likely to be present.

I know that withholding the roles specifically obscures things but I am trying to explain without giving scum!Jesus ideas.

[Titus]

Ooh I forgot traitor in my analysis.

Bambi can be leashed and her lie exposed quickly. Oh wait, it already was. But we know Jesus either a) lied about his action being blocked that he took, b) he's a non-vt or goon without a night action (hence the info above), or c) he randomly lied in response to Bambi's fake.

[Titus]

Ooh I actually forgot strongman as a role too, morning brain.

[Titus]

But Jesus cannot assume that you are town.

Like I get that you can do that but why does JESUS need to asume that you are town?

But Jesus was town reading Bambi?

[Titus]

You wouldn't get heat you'd get praise for letting me get shot and not outting yourself as a PR so easily. Town you would've took it so Titus wouldn't RB you again and focus elsewhere.

Is anything other than a VT a PR to you? Is there anything in between perhaps?

Not really? Unless your a Miller, but that ship already sailed.

Neighbor, PGO, Mason, Lover, etc... for example...

PGO would leave me as a corpse. Neighbor/Mason would be confirmed. So would lover.

[Titus]

Jesus what made you change your read on Bambi after you discovered he was lying about his role?

Is this a serious question? I think Bambi

lying about my role

is a damn good reason for my read to change...

You said that you agreed that it could come from any alignment though?

I do agree that Bambi does this as town or scum, this time I'm more inclined to think it comes from scum!bambi.

Looking at this from a differnet perspective then... If I was shot for my Vanilla Cop claim that would've mean't they had a REASON to worry about a VC checking them. We would've lost a scummy VT and Mafia wasted a valuable shot on me, maybe even a Strong arm.

If you didn't want to be locked in a VT claim that's more understandable maybe, but weird that you would want to out me publically instead of waiting until tommorow to see if scum shot me for it. Unless you couldn't tell the scum any other way?

If you were a Traitor who didn't want scum to waste a shot on me... That makes a shitton of sense.

VOTE: Jesus

Why didn't you wait to out me the next day then as town if me fake claiming gets me shot by mafia tonight?

i don't understand this like at all .... why would scum be afraid of a vc checking them .... ? unless i don't know what a vc is it can't even get guilties; at best it can find scum prs (and can't even say what the prs are!)

so why would they nk you over this?

Because vanilla cops reduce fake claims, I am widely scumread and they have a strongman allegedly?

[Titus]

Wait, you guys thought the mod was playing???

[Titus]

Wait, you guys thought the mod was playing???

?

What Bambi said.

[Titus]

Well if we're talking lurkers, there is flavor leaf.

[Titus]

i'm wondering if should read that as a townslip

No. It should be read as a brain fart.

[Titus]

if we're going to compromise somewhere is it at all possible for it to be on asuka instead of xtoxm?

I hate the compromises and want Jesus dead.

[Titus]

I can't think of a town role w/out a night action that's townie here.

[Titus]

I could do rooster in a pinch though. He's chainsawing Jesus at this point.

[Titus]

I can't think of a town role w/out a night action that's townie here.

idk they can be a neighbor or something?
bp too

commuter, ascetic, informed; i can think of a bunch of things that wouldn't have noticed being rb'd

even night, novice, other varients of night-specific would not have noticed being rb'd either

Informed is out because Liger.
Ascetic claims post 1.
Neighbor or Mason would have outed.
Night specific is a thing but Jesus would have hinted at a modifier rather than a role.
BP would be more vocal and leadery.

It makes most sense that Jesus is the strongman.

[Titus]

i've caught scum with this *a bunch* of times. don't remember town saying this ever

actually i'm mistaken; i mistakenly scumread i townie for this once

but i think this tell i'm like 5/6 on

You know if Asuka flips town I'll suppose you're scum peeling for Jesus right.

[Titus]

I can't think of a town role w/out a night action that's townie here.

idk they can be a neighbor or something?
bp too

commuter, ascetic, informed; i can think of a bunch of things that wouldn't have noticed being rb'd

even night, novice, other varients of night-specific would not have noticed being rb'd either

Informed is out because Liger.
Ascetic claims post 1.
Neighbor or Mason would have outed.
Night specific is a thing but Jesus would have hinted at a modifier rather than a role.
BP would be more vocal and leadery.

It makes most sense that Jesus is the strongman.

I feel like you're treating 'didnt claim rb'd' and 'is claiming to not be a vt' as comtradictions when i'm p sure they arent

Absolutely not. I am just going through the likely roles with those two statements being true based on Jesus's play.

For instance the null option I had was vengeful. Yet, Jesus is far too survivalistic for that to be town. So if he's vengeful I'm dead. He's not threatening enough for that.

The two options I can't eliminate are Godfather and Strongman.

[Titus]

VOTE: Asuka

Really?

[Titus]

Ok, I'd lynch Blake now but after Jesus. Blake makes a huge deal trying to link people to Jesus but bails at the first opportunity...

[Titus]

Neighbor or Mason would have outed.
Night specific is a thing but Jesus would have hinted at a modifier rather than a role.
BP would be more vocal and leadery.

This is all nonesense.

-Jesus has managed to survive without outing so I could see neighbour or mason saying nothing
-Why?
-Not everyone can be vocal and leadery.

Now vote Asuka and I will forgive you.

I don't need your forgiveness. I need you to stop being dumb.

[Titus]

Also after accusing my of chainsawinf Titus is now chainsawing Asuka

Actually, I'm not but you'd not understand that. I called you an idiot not scum.

Blake I said was scum with Jesus. I could made a bussing argument on Asuka but that's less than accurate given what I recall of Blake's reads.

[Titus]

But like I just showed how all of these are possible.

Yes anything's possible. None of those are likely.

[Titus]

I really disagree with that, but ok.

Well, you got something to say?

[Titus]

Because if Jesus was town, you'd think my argument would naturally hold more water to scumfucks, right?

But when Skitter gives an out, the wagon starts shifting.

When Jesus flips scum, we take a long hard look at skitter and blake.

[Titus]

@Asuka, Why are you referring to yourself in 3rd person? Titus wants to know.

@Blake, I wish I was. Yet, if you thought Jesus was town, why would this bother you? I explicitly said to only look at you after Jesus.

[Titus]

*pulls hair out* Are people trying to wagon the Bulbasaur like I thought? I'd lynch the anime girl since I don't remember her.

[Titus]

VOTE: asuka, the anime girl

[Titus]

Seriously, one of you needs a universal nickname.

[Titus]

if you just kept calling me bulbasaur, i'd be ok with that.

Good. Ty.

[Titus]

VOTE: asuka, the anime girl

Oh u thought i was trying to lynch ausuka? Lol

Yes.

[Titus]

Because if Jesus was town, you'd think my argument would naturally hold more water to scumfucks, right?

But when Skitter gives an out, the wagon starts shifting.

When Jesus flips scum, we take a long hard look at skitter and blake.

Ngl this is spooking me a bit

Tbh, as it should.

[Titus]

I actually think the scumteam has high odds of being Liger rooster Asuka Jesus

[Titus]

With Skitter and Blake as backups

[Titus]

No mass claim d2

Hope all are ok

[Titus]

i'm wondering if should read that as a townslip

Regardless, Titus is likely town because of her claim & Liger's information.

Nooo I am super scummy A50, you just don't want to lynch me because of the moon.

[Titus]

I can't think of a town role w/out a night action that's townie here.

Why do you care that much? ANY role with an "Even-Night" modifier didn't have an action last night!!

Because I want to catch the scum that tried to lynch me?

[Titus]

Ank, you know my VCA needs a scum flip to be effective.

Second, I have a history of everything. I've been here forever. Anything short of Mason and this is factually true. Yet, I've been sick as a dog. I'm not strongly manipulating anything in this instance at all. I have been incapable. You can see this sickness is not made up.

What exactly are your reads? Whenever almost any wagon comes up, you've rallied against it, which is what the fuck.

[Titus]

Wait, this reads like you're afraid. Day 3 with a scum lynch is when my VCA kicks into gear in most instances...so why are you acting as if I'm not getting the data?

[Titus]

You assumed mafia shot flavor. It could have easily been a vig who shot flavor and I blocked the mafia kill by blocking jesus.

Rosterfoster, this is a scumclaim.

No town would ever think this.

A) p sure liger is town, even independantly of his info
B) i'd be kinda surprised if titus/liger cooked that up in pregame
C) ehy is this a scumclaim?

I'm sure Ank is reaching here...but why is she? A roleblocker thinking they might have blocked the kill and pushing based on that isn't exactly foreign. That's how I first generated Bambi jesus.

Jesus is still scum btw.

[Titus]

Ank, you know my VCA needs a scum flip to be effective.

Second, I have a history of everything. I've been here forever. Anything short of Mason and this is factually true. Yet, I've been sick as a dog. I'm not strongly manipulating anything in this instance at all. I have been incapable. You can see this sickness is not made up.

What exactly are your reads? Whenever almost any wagon comes up, you've rallied against it, which is what the fuck.

If you need a scum flip for your VCA to be effective and you don't have a scum flip, then why are you trying to solve the game on day two? Drastic playstyle changes like this are almost always because of a dramatic shift in mindset from something that happened within the game, yet there is no evidence of this being the case this game. You're not playing to give yourself the tools you need to be a threat later, you're trying to fake enough content to outlast the suspicion on you.

My reads are that there are enough obvious town in this game that the game is solvable today.

Because I am town. I don't prodge until d3. Also high odds I am dead.

[Titus]

so do you think that all my reads are bad or something?
like i guess i'm just confused why you're not feeling wary of the fact that my reads differ so strongly from yours

like the fact that my reads are ???? upside down from yours almost is making me wonder whether or not you're just making them up

Sync is one way to read you, but it isn't the only way.

You are heavily town telling via another method.

Which is?

[Titus]

I think Blake's peeling for Asuka, the anime girl. While we talk about Blake's nonsense, we don't lynch her.

[Titus]

idk what 'peeling' means

Protecting by drawing attention elsewhere...it's more commonly used in mmos or mobas.

[Titus]

i mean ... ok?
you understand why i find that to be a little strange, right?

can i interest you in voting asuka?

The fact that I made zero effort to hide the fact that my read on Jesus Louisus changed should not be strange, no.

Why are you trying to sell a wagon that isn't in my scum list to me?

Blake, give a reason why scum would not kill town!Titus here but need her lynched instead.

[Titus]

i mean ... ok?
you understand why i find that to be a little strange, right?

can i interest you in voting asuka?

The fact that I made zero effort to hide the fact that my read on Jesus Louisus changed should not be strange, no.

Why are you trying to sell a wagon that isn't in my scum list to me?

Blake, give a reason why scum would not kill town!Titus here but need her lynched instead.

Is this a serious post?

Humor me.

[Titus]

Well I have a moonlogic theory that I'll do after my call.

[Titus]

Why would scum specifically need you dead at all?

Scum supposedly have a strongman, there is a lot of chaos to hide behind, and this playerlist is not a strong threat to most scumteams that can exist here.

But you know my VCA exists on day 3 is strong but I'll humor you. What if Liger's scum/asuka dies and they don't have a strongman? I'm a stronger player heading into my own right?

[Titus]

(That's a hint that I don't think your day 3 VCA is enough to prioritize a kill on you)

Well, the thing is if my moonlogic theory is correct...you'd want me dead because I'm the only one who is as big of a sci-fi nerd as Bambi.

[Titus]

If you feel that Liger must be scum for me to be scum, then in what rational world do you push me first?

[Titus]

Because I'm certain you are scum.

Liger is very likely scum as well, but there is enough doubt for me to not lock that read in.

Ausuka is close to lockscum too, however.

Nah, there's a simpler thing here. You know Liger's scum, so there's no strongman.

Bambi had a doctor fakeclaim set up, but abandoned it. (That's Doctor Who to you). The fakeclaim would work well with a semi-confirmed strongman.

This surprised Jesus who had no idea how to react, regardless of his alignment. Jesus had higher than average odds of being vanilla here, so the doctor claim could be passed off.

Then there's my reactionary wagon to pushing Bambi. This is hyper defensive.

Then there's Ank's obsession with a traitor. Now Ank peeling for Asuka and being deliberately obscure on her reads.

Can I get Asuka Bella Bambi Liger for 100000?

[Titus]

Regarding Ausuka, I have two major points.

First, she is transparently town when she puts effort into the game as town. She is not transparently town.

Are you meaning anime girl here?

[Titus]

eh should i say my moonlogic theory for what happened to ank's scumread on jesus?

also @ank from my pov i'm starting with liger's info being true, and from there, working up to it's unlikely for scum to have both a strongman and rb, so titus's claim points to town; i think you're starting with: scum-titus, so it's unlikely scum also have a strongman, so liger made the claim up

Nah, Blake's starting with he can't have a dead anime girl. If A50 was here, he'd know precisely how garbage Blake is being.

Also, go ahead and go Skitter. Go to the moon.

[Titus]

eh should i say my moonlogic theory for what happened to ank's scumread on jesus?

also @ank from my pov i'm starting with liger's info being true, and from there, working up to it's unlikely for scum to have both a strongman and rb, so titus's claim points to town; i think you're starting with: scum-titus, so it's unlikely scum also have a strongman, so liger made the claim up

I'll just be blunt with you, skitter.

I have role related reasons to be very suspicious of Titus.

Do not reveal your theory.

Then why didn't you say so when I claimed?

Why are you so afraid of a townread expressing his theory?

[Titus]

eh should i say my moonlogic theory for what happened to ank's scumread on jesus?

also @ank from my pov i'm starting with liger's info being true, and from there, working up to it's unlikely for scum to have both a strongman and rb, so titus's claim points to town; i think you're starting with: scum-titus, so it's unlikely scum also have a strongman, so liger made the claim up

I'll just be blunt with you, skitter.

I have role related reasons to be very suspicious of Titus.

Do not reveal your theory.

Then why didn't you say so when I claimed?

Why are you so afraid of a townread expressing his theory?

If skitter hit the correct theory, she'd know exactly why not to reveal it.

Why in the world would I want to reveal my role when I don't have a reason to?

Because fypov it would confirm the best skilled scum player (your words not mine).

[Titus]

Skitter, do you see a flaw in my theory?

[Titus]

Skitter, do you see a flaw in my theory?

not sure which theory - the bambi/doctor one? it's very moonlogic-y; kinda doubt that that's what happened
(mine's a lot more grounded in like ... things that could have happened)

i don't understand why you're townreading me (as i've said multiple times) so i can't answer that question

i'm town, but i don't understand the thought process that you've used to get to that read so idk if it's a good read or not

Then please pay attention. Read through what I've posted and tell me where you disagree and why.

are you talking about how you're reading me or like in a general sense we should talk about why i disagree with your reads
(if the latter not until i get home from work)

Why isn't it something that could have happened? It explains why a quick lynch went through on day 1, but was not good on day 2, it explains the heavy omgus push, it explains why asuka is so hard to wagon despite being useless. No one townreads her but Blake's peeling like nobody's business.

[Titus]

Hey, if you're not town reading Asuka, can you join us?

She's content lurking her wagon away at deadline.

[Titus]

In order to need me lynched, you'd have to believe I was a roleblocker though?

[Titus]

My role is sufficient evidence that there is no reason to believe that there is sufficient town power that a strongman would counter in order to justify town specifically needing to know that mafia have a strongman. It does not fit the setup.

[Titus]

Scum usually gey roleblockers for either strong investigatives or Vigilantes. That certainly qualifies.

Blake:

Considering Titus corrected me nearly instantly about a possible vigilante, it's possible she knew it was a vigi because scum failed to NK for some reason?

This is assuming you shot Flavor or your shot otherwise failed, obviously.

So how did Blake survive the PGO in this world?

Like can you be anymore obvious in coaching fakeclaims?

In this setup, Jesus is lockscum bc I blocked him and Blake would be a serial killer.

[Titus]

Scum usually gey roleblockers for either strong investigatives or Vigilantes. That certainly qualifies.

Blake:

Considering Titus corrected me nearly instantly about a possible vigilante, it's possible she knew it was a vigi because scum failed to NK for some reason?

This is assuming you shot Flavor or your shot otherwise failed, obviously.

This is exactly what caused my suspicion of Titus in the first place.

My slot shot Flavor Leaf.

How are you alive?

[Titus]

Oh wait FL is not a pgo

[Titus]

Why did you shoot FL Blake?

[Titus]

Also, if FL is town then Jesus is confscum because of the blocked kill.

This means scum didn't use a strongman.
That means a gated strongman or Liger is scum.

[Titus]

rosterfoster is locktown.

*Sigh*

I still am not convinced, but if both you and skitter are this certain then I will accept I might be wrong.

UNVOTE:

Foster is my derptown read. That tends to happen when someone finishes a scumgame with me.

[Titus]

VOTE: Titus

I don't have anything specific on Asuka. It's Bambi Jay and you I'm against wagoning.

I'm not lynching Titus today though. Mechanically she should be town, so I'd need a very strong reason to change my mind about her.

No.

Wait till he gets to your meta garbage.

[Titus]

You assumed mafia shot flavor. It could have easily been a vig who shot flavor and I blocked the mafia kill by blocking jesus.

Rosterfoster, this is a scumclaim.

No town would ever think this.

How can you be the vig who shot flavor and think no town stopped the NK?

[Titus]

You assumed mafia shot flavor. It could have easily been a vig who shot flavor and I blocked the mafia kill by blocking jesus.

Rosterfoster, this is a scumclaim.

No town would ever think this.

How can you be the vig who shot flavor and think no town stopped the NK?

Here's the funny part about that question, Titus.

I know that that's a strong possibility. What reason do you have to think you stopped the nightkill when there was one kill?

Bambi's scum claim.

[Titus]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ding_Mafia

Day 2 and beyond

quote="In post 228, Bambi Jay"]There he is!

We murdered Pops! Woop Woop![/quote]

Tfw you lynch someone before the Mod officially even joins the fray. We've been dealing with the Backup Duck instead.

Lmfao.

Flavor: Don't visit me I'm PGO.

Mafia: Let's kill Flavor anyway.

What a fun time.

All hail the Monkey man.

Did Flavor spook the Mafia into accidentally killing him? Besides him starting Pops Wagon I don't remember any reads of his.

Day 1 2.0

Day 1 is best day.

We could be worse, I think. Do we think any scum jumped on Pop's wagon day 1? Probably, yes.

We lost a Universal Backup but it could be worse. We could've lost an investigative. On the downside a VT dying would've been better, but glass half full.

I can reread 300 posts real quick. Let's see what we get from day 2.

[Titus]

I'm not seeing a scum claim from Bambi or a reason that would make you think there was a vig kill night one.

I didn't know either way. I still don't. I think your vig claim is a diversion to force my block onto you.

I think you know Liger and Bambi are scum.

[Titus]

My point to Bambi was how did she know who shot flavor?

[Titus]

In what universe does it make sense to speculate about where the kill came from when there is no evidence of multiple kill sources existing?

Jeep tells. Bambi's too over the top. Plus scum shooting an outed pgo is too damn risky.

[Titus]

Congratulations on finding one of Bambi's town tells.

Ank, if you are town here, you need to seriously go back to square one. Scumtells documented in a wiki should not be towntells.

[Titus]

No.

Don't rely on scumtells from a decade ago, especially when you don't take the person's personality into account.

Ank, all my best work removes personality.

[Titus]

Fair enough.

Opinion on Titus flailing about now? Along with her horrible rrcent posts?

Objection! Leading! Argumentative! Bullshit!

Sustained. The scumfuck shall refrain from grandstanding.

@Creature, Let's just lynch Asuka. Blake and Bambi are making noise to divert.

[Titus]

Actually, that's one reason I want Titus first. She has the strongest odds of being the strongman than any other player.

No. You've said the strongman is a fiction and that I was a strong scum PR.

Now that people mistakenly believe Liger is town, you're pushing that I'm the strongman.

The whole time you've pushed me as a nebulous all powerful scum goddess while it's clear that I've been sick as a dog most of the day and still fighting.

You need me dead because I am right.

[Titus]

My slot shot Flavor Leaf.

Bring Clemency back so that I can enjoy lynching him then!

Okie dokie.. Ank is town. Clemency would probably replace out after that shot.

Well then you better lynch the fuck out of my scum pool tomorrow if skitter did hammer me.

My God, town are motherfucking idiots here. Why did I even return?

[Titus]

scum still doesn't claim strongman the way liger did

Bambi and Liger likely planned it. They just realized doc was garbage after my rb claim. This shocked jesus. I explained this.

Blake peeks for Asuka. I don't buy there is a vog.


If I am wrong and Blake is town, Jesus Liger and Bambi are scum due to occam's razor.

[Titus]

Asuka would be the fourth due to wagon resistance. Rooster is the townbeard.

Everyone else is town. Even Creature.

[Titus]

Flavor Leaf
skitter30 Gamma Emerald

Bambi Jay

Ausuka Lil Uzi Vert

Xtoxm
Asuka
Jesus Louisus

Almost50
Blake Belladonna Clemency

rosterfoster
UnaBombaH
Titus

popsofctown

Creature

Liger_Zero

i'll do a creature style thing, crossing out people who are town or dead
scum's here ^^^^
still feel v strongly that asuka is scum
roster is prob town

everyone else is my poe and/or i'm scumreading

although now that i think about it titus not being ok with ausuka but voting asuka is kinda ???

I love bulbasaur

Lynch anime girl

[Titus]

Also, if FL is town then Jesus is confscum because of the blocked kill.

This means scum didn't use a strongman.
That means a gated strongman or Liger is scum.

titus do you really think that a rb-guilty makes someone confscum ... ?

@titus

pedit i didn't vote you yet

Highly likely scum yeah but getting to prove rb block on day 2 with a kill is hard.

Scum and vig shooting the same target is hella unlikely.

I find it more likely Clem siteflaked and Vambi took advantage

But if not Jesus is like 95% scum

[Titus]

Hi from Drunk!Titus

[Titus]

Skitter, even if I was sober, no one understands the correct answer when I am town. Just sheep me. If Asuka doesn't flip red, I won't block Ank and she can kill me.

[Titus]

I do not have a vig shot tonight.

Oh suddenly you're not a full big. What are your limitations? Are you conveniently a 1 shot vig?