The Mystery Box Of Silver 5: Clash of Cash death grips

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vote 1130?

VOTE: 11:30

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Im a little busy rn, but I am available later.

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pisskop, are you actually fuckso fucksuco fuscosco?

Im the replacement. The name says 'pisskop', correct?

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it is. i may or may not use that alt again. im not incredibly fond of logging out of and into accounts.

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I'll have to look into that.

Let me look this over before I go out quickly.

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Why would you say this?

whatcha mean?

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meh.

Ill just make new reads!

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Pichu does seem kind of townie. I know they asked me if I thought their intro held water.
Old Doggo does seem kind of town.

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pisskop, are you actually fuckso fucksuco fuscosco?

this was pretty irritating.

Why ask if I was the alt though. Does it change your read of the slot?

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I think vorkuta rolled 3p this game.

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If its true that pichu is also latrodeucous then they should have a certain tone they take when entering as town, imo. I wouldnt call it foolproof tho.

Is this still valid considering I was originally a hidden head of this hydra?

~ Pichu

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There's a difference between uncooperative and playing to my win condition. You're not being very cooperative by focusing on my claim instead of focusing on other things (waiting on other people to post, scum hunting, etc.), so that's a bit ironic coming from you. There's no evidence that focusing on my slot will help you going forward, and it feels like you're just posting for the sake of posting.

you're not being cooperative by refusing to share scumreads, i mean seriously

I suppose its a sign they are town that they didnt scrub this game up too!

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I wouldnt consider that to be my defining moment in my career. but sure.

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you make this assumption after openly announcing that I would cooperate with 3ps?

sure. why wouldnt a 3p lampshade their alignment?

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Yea, I had an early TR on 1130, but I do agree that by post 400 or so it had faded.

I dont agree with their insomnia read and I think their doggo read is to spread shade more that paranoia.

Getting pretty strong 3p vibes from this one

heh.


So at least we both see vork as weird.

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Also I'm sure I'd play 3p better. At least I'll do my homework and see how successful players have done it

would you? I dont honestly know if you consider yourself to be a researcher or not.

Do you meta-dive? Like for a small sample or like 5 or 6 games?
Do you research previous setups?
Do you feel your play changes every game?

Given that schaad is running this, how many 3p are in a game adverted as '3p heavy'?

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lulz.

Just keep lynching scum and we'll be cool

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Hey so is the scum wincon

'you win when you outnumber town and no threats can stop you'?


Cuz I imagine some 3p are indeed hostile to red mafia.

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Imagine if there are only 6 or 7 town players rn.

:spooky:

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Toogeloo
KidAmn

I want to lynch toog and i want to pressure kidadmin

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1: <3 titus and katy tbh

2: I nullscum read 1130


3: In larges its more important to pressure and interact than it is to mindless tunnel.

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Whats your current thoughts on the game toog?

You dont have to settle for being a nonpresence.

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My guess, which is spec, is

9:3:1:1:1:1:1

conceptual 3Ps

• 1 delayed jester
  
• 1 poisoner/arson
  
• 2 survivors
  
• 1 lyncher/other wincon
  
  Mafias
  
• Rolecop
  
• ninja/strong/joat
  
• maybe a bp
  
  Town
  
• VT x4
  
• xshot vig/babysitter
  
• commuter/hider
  
• tracker/watcher
  
• mason/hood x2

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well crap, if that isnt the setup i think i just made a new game. Youre welcome. :nod:

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Oh, i forgot about the post restriction.

That is NAI but role-indicative, imo


i.e. any alignment, but indicative of a strength of role instead.

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I dont recall this being explicitly bastard.


Its really less of a setup spec and more of how Im viewing people and what Im trying to sort them into rn. Just add another weak town or 3p role to make up for my mistake.

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"everyone will be multitasking. there will be between 0 and 1 redirection abilities. it is not really role madness. no psychologist". everything has daytalk. sugar drinks / etc. have no adverse long-term health effects (just in this game! not in general)

i make no other promises.

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oh yeah
why are we completely ignoring the people who can't post in here?

because opening the mystery box was how people caught the allegorical plague that is evil?

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HURT: insomnia

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Like you cant even state 4 townreads?

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you got me.

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%<3

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Like you cant even state 4 townreads?

is this to me

twas

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i love when meta gers smashed

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keep going.

start with a claim of any info that won't flip w/u

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vork.

pls claim

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Im waiting on chicki

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insomnia, you dont think your content has thus far been better than chicki's do you?

Do you think its been better than mine?

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Im just asking if you think its indicative. which you do.

I dont feel ive been any better than her, do you? if not, why not finger me?

Im not implying you are insulting her, Im trying to see where youre going with this.

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Chemist1422, Vengaboys, and Gamma Emerald will indefinitely be unable to post in this thread, with the potential exception of a single post saying "ego" in the next 24 hrs.

Im terribly interested in whats happening here!


Hey guys, send me an invite to your party if you have one!

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@mod

would we know if you replaced one of the players who cannot post? could the new player post an ego post if they placed into one of the restricted slots?

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Insomnia, join our 1130 wagon!

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by what he does not what he says

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by what he does not what he says

is how to read Vdog

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Thats a good vig shot then.

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But wait,

IM THE DOC!!

VOTE: insomnia

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ummmmm, opps.


gdi vork. you see what you made me do?

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y u drag out my cc, scumnugget

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HURT: you

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. . . lets just move on.


^^^^ thats a good vote

VOTE: zxxx

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vork, you owe me now

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if they are both scummy then either one should work, rite?

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Dear God, grant me strength to endure these dark times...

~Aramis

it happened lets just get over it.

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VOTE: chicki

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in 4 days, 8 hours, 58 minutes

ewww chicki

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Now we're cooking

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Dagnabbit I've lost momentum and now I feel like cruising into D2 before trying.

This btw was a lazy way of saying he's not going to play because he isnt under enough pressure

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Yea but I dont have him sorted yet, so its a problem for me. And him, if there is enough popular support.

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VOTE: toog

Im convinced

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To take a stance and make it known they are just an empty slot?

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MeThinks youre reading too much into that, as if you think scum would be adverse to any sort of conflict.

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Do you TR them just for taking a stance and pushing an initiative? I wouldnt call PLing survivors a strong protown move, nor would I say that bringing up a debate in Early Game when that debate was going to inevitably happen as really Obviously Town moves.

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The point isnt even what side he took, just that he made a move to progress the game (in his name) that was going to happen anyway.

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You dont get credit for making the Sun rise just because you cockle-doodle-dooed

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And also Fuscosco taking special interest in said NK deterrents in 123

Ummm not to get all uppity over a small point, but you read the context, do you think said deterrents were the subject of my post?

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\o/

Everyone

is a Neutral survivor!

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Im sure we'll even see scum pretending to be a survivor!

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Toog, so who is your best bets for town?

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Me of all people? k.

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I dont really get the insomnia reads. can you help me?

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You don't feel like you are worthy of being read in a negative manner?

I usually try to have some sort of SR around me.



I dont get why you wouldnt just play 3p like VT? Youre more active and proddy than this.
Also, care to paraphrase as exactly as possible your wincon? Like be specific.

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I wonder if we have a role invest.

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Like Im kind of okay not killing toog today in favor of someone else. If he isnt scum coasting then we're wasting our time.

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Obviously I want Zeebu lynched though, since his original slot's claim doesn't mesh with my role afaict.

.... the claim wasn't real, most prob

idk about that.

He did seem to think he wouldnt get flak for it, but claiming neutral 3p in a game explicitly promising anti-town 3p seems dumb.

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HAHAHAHAHAHA

I like you strange 3p guy

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Hot Take:

- All of our non-posting players are town and they are also collectively governers.

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zebslot.

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Its not frozen.

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Obviously I want Zeebu lynched though, since his original slot's claim doesn't mesh with my role afaict.

.... the claim wasn't real, most prob

idk about that.

He did seem to think he wouldnt get flak for it, but claiming neutral 3p in a game explicitly promising anti-town 3p seems dumb.

who are you talking about? ras or zeebu?

zebslot.

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for what exactly?

Why did I think claiming Survivor on MS was a good idea? This is embarrassing.

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Ill join
VOTE: zeebu

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as opposed to?

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What does mean "FPS"?

in what context?

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Frames Per Second (TV/Computer term referring to how many pictures are in a production for every second. The human eye can distinguish anything below ~28 per second)
Frags Per Second (video game terms (kills per second))
First Person Shooter (a genre of video game wherein you see the world through the eyes of the protagonist, and probably have a gun)

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I think he means a 180?

idk.

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who's top wagon?

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vork
chickadee
zeebu


GOGOGOGO

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If u vote outside chick/vorkuta u need damn good reasoning

Im grandfathered in?

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Im slipping!

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if i had to choose between the two id go vorki

VOTE: vork

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At least chicki has info and i consider her nullish

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I think that that latest pichu post was kind of scummy for them

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I think that that latest pichu post was kind of scummy for them

How is pichu mindlessly pandering and joking about their apparent scumminess scummy? From a meta pov mostly. it doesnt resonate with their head, and I dont think it really resonates with their hydra in general; despite yayavg being lighter in nature.

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vote chiki

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or vork.

VOTE: chicki

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Rather vork, but I honestly feel like chickadee wagon is larger.

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6 hours.

And zzzx is being replaced, so I imagine another 36?

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VOTE: vork

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One day, Ill catch you and beat you to it

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I thought only 1 musketeer died in the novel?

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not satisfied with that list doggo.


I wknder if townhunting is the right way to do this

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still pichu?

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VOTE: trenchcoat Rhino

Kinda felt this way too

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TBH RE:RAS and this game


I think that RASslot is scum or has a non-town wincon

OR

I think Schadd_ is too good of a mod to allow randos to spectate and see all of the spoilers.

Both and neither can be true, but these are my suspicions.

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I also think that RAS might replace out if he couldnt get spoilers.

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I'm speaking of hypotheticals. I think town ras would replace out so as to keep up the allusion of perfect play.

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anyway, point being, even when replaced that slot has been off.

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pedit: RAS did not replace out, he was banned

not the point. but nvm its not important to the read.

RAS himself. his play was hunty in a way that was going after wagons, not players.

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i forgot to mention btw but apparently im v popular? lots happened last night but i cant rly comment on it

Can I mention that I masonized you last night since I claimed that D1 at least?

Is this a serious claim?

no

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If she TRs you or assumes you'll clear her through it it makes senicals.

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enh.

tomorrow I should ketch up

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I fhink we should vote to kill scummy

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voted is currently voting for voted

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1672

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I should be sleeping, so Ill be on later.

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oc he is town.

I dont remember where I was in this one but 1130 sounds right.

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insomnia

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Im not explicitly getting a scumcritter vibe here, tbh

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Actually a hydra with a secret head that posts does sound like kind of fun.

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bet its more common than I give it credit for tho.

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Okay. So the Nero/Maquis hydra has been outed.

critter is kinda town. rhinox has vlaed and I think we should wagon toog to L-1 to see if his votes get annulled again

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VOTE: errant

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che?

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did we just l lightning round again?

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I’m still not 3p, but I don’t think that matters to anyone

why are you telling us now?

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Old Dogs

VOTE: old salty scum dogs

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alright mastina should claim if she's loyal then?

i think that would make 1130 very clearly scum if yay is clear

I doubt she is, but it would if it were.

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I think its a good shot.

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We're lynching out of the people on both wagons. Punitive actions will be taken.

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You're all begging for a scum stomp, but whatever.

Nah. Im disappoint that we allowed that horrid lynch to happen.

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Actually What and Toog are pretty high on my list of people Im going to vote

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VOTE: unvote

VOTE: What

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rhinox/toog/zeebu/voted

I debate zeebu, and I think toog has a non-compatible wincon

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rhinix is meh. Not scummy but meh

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I think something insomnia said rubbed me the wrong way(?)

~ Pichu

Would scum ank do this?

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And no, insomnia was hellatown.

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Lets kill what and take 2 asprin. Then come back to this in the morning.

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critter is? I havent seen him?

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creature replaces ZZZX. so there we go.

night 1 ends (expired on 2019-07-03 16:30:00)

Oh yea, Im down for killing zzzx

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my read on zzzx isnt based in meta

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Ank could be open wolfing. Im not discounting that

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If you wanna make lemonade, you gotta squeeze the fruit

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I've seen you do it pretty well before

when?

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Ank could be open wolfing. Im not discounting that

I think you could be tbh
I've seen you do it pretty well before

Talk to me about your reads on YVG and Old Dogs

-Irrel

Simply put, them working with me for so long under so vague a circumstance speaks for them being town.

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I sometimes take stabs at people to see what they do. Like voting doggo at start of day.

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I was also curious to see if anyone would assume I had a guilty . . .

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I also misremembered you as scum in Nomination Mafia. Hmmm maybe I can read you..?

maybe?

I mean it is an alt. I tend to be very hands on as scum.

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I also have a pretty good track record as scum. did you see how I turned an almost universally scumread slot into a major townread?

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My mistake was misjudging chen and titus' untimely place into a slot I was going to hang.

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Hand

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pagetop

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One day, Ill catch you and beat you to it

I mean, its not you, but its close

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The goal is to get the damn 3ps to play mafia

My guess is that if a single player is responsible for the lockdown of the players, then lynching them gives town 3 more townies to use for Voting and Endgaming purposes.


Thus a toog lynch is advisable.

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Hard to be a survivor when people know youre a huge negative utility hunh.

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MOD:

I know I'm probably nearing prod range, but

24-48 hour V/LA due to sickness.

Vomited today, sick.

I'll post as soon as I can.

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I spent yesterday playing Alpha Centauri or at work. Game kept crashing when I finished the weather paradigm, but thats okay because Miriam and Sanchez kept eyeballing my mad stash of tech lead and monies from being morgan who only had to share a continent with the gaians. You'd think the amount of trouble morgan has with mil support and extreme anti-planet economics that he'd be in trouble, but no, We were fine with less pewpews packing more pew. Artillery and rovers.

our spacesuits were made out of pure, fire hardened money.

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Im going to make a secret hydra.

pisskop and fuscosco.

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I havent read since I last posted my apology. Wh4t is town?

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phew. I thought I saw that somewhere; that pika was defending what

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I too feel that I am also town.

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Zeebu or Creature

100% certainty that's not town

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I wonder why its a choice for you if youre so sure it zeeb

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lets kill zzzx

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Like we all seem to share the same reads, why are we having such a hard time killing a foo?

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creature is more likely groupscum

Lets please do that thing where we pursue our wincon

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its anti-town but i suspect its more of a D[x] jester or perhaps a day[3,4,5] or some other variant where you have to get lynched later.

They will be obvious because they wont have associations with the scumteam.

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In other words, lets kill groupscum

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off gut, whi is teh scummans?

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I think rhinox is just trying to string together narratives.

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I think pisskop is just trying to string together narratives.

Is this the cruel and unjust fingernof accusation or the whimsical light-hearted jest of a salt old doggo who knows better?

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idk what's happening but id lynch mastina for suddenly being active

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VOTE: mastina

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i mean I've kind of obvtowned

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i mean I've kind of obvtowned

i haven't read at all if since daybreak itwym

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VOTE: unvote
.y

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tomorrow

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yea but you aren't here now because Im a pro at gamestating.

and also I just stopped playing for a while. thats called life.

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Mastina is provably locktown and is 100% off the table until the end of the game

You are wasting your time trying to read her.

i havent read. im just omgusing.

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I claim to know that green eggs are overcooked and green ham is rancid.

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what are the claims so far?

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'cause I'm v tempted to vote you

awwwww

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Ill claim last kthnx

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I already did

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My very first post

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she died?

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zeebu has died in the night! he was a

vanilla townie

!

wh4t has died in the night! they were a

vanilla townie

!

Old Dogs has died in the night! they were a

town 2-shot roleblocker

!

Chemist1422, Vengaboys and Errantparabola exit the game in a loss.

oh shyte

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what did chemist or EP do? Or was it just Vengaboys

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scum toog did?

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i have to read this today

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you got me irre. My scumgame is to do exactly what people expect.


And not, you know, to sweep town as I do.

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were you not in the last game i rolled scum in? Where I went from the single most scumread slot in Day1; on track to be lynched, to lylo?

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its a sign of how town i am :nod:

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Dog pile!!

*belly Flop*

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i haven't read; can't until Sunday night.


feels lazy offhandedly, since we should have done it day2.

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if i were a scumbutt I'd want to be here and be pushing at 3p claims as liars rn, sooo

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acshully an 1130 lynch sounds decent.

but again, i won't be able to read for a few