Project ARCH - Epilogue

[Sakura Hana]

Notice me senpai!

[Sakura Hana]

Oh you're Niko? even better.

[Sakura Hana]

I can already tell you're going to enlighten this game for me and pull me from this demotivational slump.

[Sakura Hana]

Sakura want to be masons?

although i never played with you, I coincidentally have read a considerate bunch of games that you were in, I'm...reasonably confident that I can have a decent read on you?

You feel pretty town right now.

A bit too enthusiastic about RC back there but good enough.

Sure thing lets be masons!

[Sakura Hana]

I'm not bragging though, I think you could end up fooling me, but I try to not be paranoid anymore these days...

it's...troublesome.

I think im pretty easy to read, but i wont force anything onto you.
There's also this thing where CK claimed im mechanically confirmed town to him, and that he should be the same for me, if that helps.

[Sakura Hana]

Can we begin by explaining me the gimmick of the game and what mechanical situation we're in now?

The game bases around an item called serum, that you get on a lynch you participated with, also when someone from Simotech is lynched everyone gains 2 serum.
Some roles require serum to work and/or upkeeps.
Most of everyone's in a company of some sort, those who arent are outcasts.

Last night i got fired from my company and became an outcast.
The mod was pretty explicit in telling me my alignment didnt change (Be wary of that possibility).
The game's also advertised as bastard but the mod says he wont lie and that there are no cults.

OS claimed that he got vanillized and millerized last night, when he targeted the miller claim Dunn to give him 1 serum.
Dunn claims he didnt receive this serum.

I think that's all the mechanics and current facts as far as i remember them.

[Sakura Hana]

Are you 100% sure that CK is confirmed town for you or is that just him saying it?

It's him saying it, I do kind of agree? but im not 100% convinced, probably about 90% or so, but it's not something i want to pursue today.

[Sakura Hana]

I had read a post where I got the impression that you can only vote using those "serum" items, is that right or I got it wrong?

Only if you have an upkeep and cant pay it you lose your vote for a day or something.

[Sakura Hana]

Pisskop replaces Fred the Cat

Pisskop replaced my SR.
This is gonna be FUUUUUN.

[Sakura Hana]

I am NOT looking forward to engaging with pisskop on this scumread specially coz it's suspected to be Creature scum related.

[Sakura Hana]

(Because if im wrong im in for a lot of pain, and im im right im also in for a lot of pain)

[Sakura Hana]

I mean the answer to that is literally a few posts ahead.

[Sakura Hana]

Sakura you're not posting enough in our mason pt

i'm getting suspecious.

We have a mason pt? fuck, mod forgot to tell me sorry.

[Sakura Hana]

I think shakura is being scummy by lampshading her disinterest in engaging

Because of posts like THIS.

[Sakura Hana]

This is why this is gonna be painful for me regardless of whether im right or wrong.

[Sakura Hana]

old timer crying about how I'm hard to talk to

No it's because i think it was a creature alt as someone alluded to here, and that's creature's scum meta.
The main contention is whether it was a creature alt or not, coz if it is then this whole debate is pointless.

[Sakura Hana]

Sakura, how sure of your reads are you right now?

If FTC is creature's alt, then im 150% sure that slot is scum.
If not:

You can tell im losing motivation because everytime i think someone's super scum i end up flipping that read or at least going back to null.

And I cant even remember what half the playerlist is, or have done.
Like... just now I also remembred that RCS exists.

It's like half the playerlist is just... being there.

[Sakura Hana]

I mean PK hasnt even tried to convince me FTC wasnt Creature.
He's just narrating a story that im scum.

[Sakura Hana]

did you see 2474?

complete bollocks riding on ate.

that's so garbo a logic thread i cant even jokingly consider it townthink

Yeah i get it, regardless of your alignment we're gonna 1v1, so might as well begin.

#HereWeGoAgain

[Sakura Hana]

Like I saw this coming from the moment you replaced into my top SR slot.

[Sakura Hana]

Speaking of, you're playing to your self-proclaimed scum meta from a page or so ago.

[Sakura Hana]

idk why you're being so fatalistic.

it makes you look shallow, and as a result scummy. i see scum doing this to build a wall of protection to retreat behind. its called manuvering; you're trying to manipulate the gamestate to create a situation that didn't exist before.

Because i know you well enough to know that this is the result that would happen coz you replaced into my Top SR slot?

[Sakura Hana]

Creature getting prodded out is 100% Creature scum.
That's meta.

[Sakura Hana]

from where do you know this?

We've played before and we've SR each other from memory.
Until either i got mislynched or ragequit crying or whatever it is that i used to do.

The only time that didnt happen nor i was worried it would happen was Colors due to my predecessor.

[Sakura Hana]

You know, i forgot about that game.

[Sakura Hana]

from where do you know this?

We've played before and we've SR each other from memory.
Until either i got mislynched or ragequit crying or whatever it is that i used to do.

The only time that didnt happen nor i was worried it would happen was Colors due to my predecessor.

please cite this

are you an alt, or are these games newer than 2 years old?

I'm pretty sure i remember you being a pain in the back of my neck.
I doubt they are newer than 2 years old however.
I did forget about the pie game where you were a traitor.

[Sakura Hana]

I will PROBABLY try to find them, but im not sure it'd help any? it's not like your slot will magically turn town if i do.

[Sakura Hana]

gdi luna, am i really that scary?

Having PTSD doesnt help matters.
I'm naturally scared of vocal people that drove mislynches on me in the past.
Also Luna's my alt, this is my main.

[Sakura Hana]

goddamit, this is going to be like finding a needle in a haystack.

[Sakura Hana]

knowing you are luna does add a bit of meta into the mix. I keep an idea of everyones personalities in my mind when I play with them

Speaking of i think i played with you as Kaede too.

sakura why are you ignoring me

Because I dont feel like replying to you if you're gonna flip a read and vote me.

[Sakura Hana]

knowing you are luna does add a bit of meta into the mix. I keep an idea of everyones personalities in my mind when I play with them

Speaking of i think i played with you as Kaede too.

On one of the boon games.
Unless im confusing you with another person with a dog avi.

[Sakura Hana]

Ah fuck it, i've played too many games and i dont feel finding this is worth it.

[Sakura Hana]

It's like what am i even trying to prove here, that pisskop has ML'd me before which it could be me misremembering, or that pisskop's scum, and i feel he is based off creature's black and white meta.

[Sakura Hana]

Have you considerably played with Creature recently Sakura?

The most recent was Heroes.
Where he was scum and he would come town it up everytime he was scumread and then dissapeared again.

I spectated Starry Night but he was town there.

[Sakura Hana]

Btw Tanaka how caught up you right now?

[Sakura Hana]

I-I haven't s-started.

I was about to go make something fast for dinner first and then come back to start reading but...

Dunnstral was just being really scummy?

so I started interacting with him a bit.

What do you think of our interaction up until now?

Do you know anything about Project Arch?

[Sakura Hana]

mfw i ask that and i just realized that was the name of this game.

[Sakura Hana]

gfi i tried to do the same thing CK did, and i misremembered and i failed
>_<

[Sakura Hana]

inb4 Creature's the one that got me fired.

[Sakura Hana]

Well doesnt matter.
Now that OS said his piece i'll say mine.
I was targeted by an ability that caused me to get fired from my company.

Did you lose everything or just the corporation?

I retain my alignment.
But im now an Outcast.

Granted, Now that i recall, why would the mod specifically tell me that my alignment didnt change.
That's interesting.

[Sakura Hana]

This is gonna take a while.

[Sakura Hana]

Actual content would be nice, dont make me regret unvoting you.

[Sakura Hana]

problem with that CK is that pisskop isnt t.

[Sakura Hana]

I mean you said

Speaking of considerations Sakura, you should be the single slot who should townread me the most because

we are almost mechanically cleared to each other

, but you are so blind that i need to state that for you

[Sakura Hana]

I mean:

ohhoho

im town

I'll prove it by being usless until lylo

it's common knowledge mu scumgame is top tier, so I'll town by being a meh lurker

And btw out of all the times PK called me scum he never voted me.

[Sakura Hana]

I'm sorry CK but it's hard to TR a slot where creature flaked.

[Sakura Hana]

Yeah CK let the replacements catch up.
Also Tanka's very familiar with me, interesting.

[Sakura Hana]

We should start running up some players that have brought only lame discussions so far.

this sounds nothing like creature?

I cant never tell with Creature, people said FTC was a creature alt, so that's what I believed.

[Sakura Hana]

Btw I will give tanaka space but him blaming me for not catching up is bullshit, he has been there for pages and still 0 content

He said im 80% town.
He also said PK is sly scum.

That's content.

[Sakura Hana]

Actually CK annoyed me to such a point that I'm becoming unmotivated to read the game from start.

Sakura what's you read on me right now?

Because if this is some hopeless game like Mini Colors I'm just going to stop tryharding

Just ISO CC and read from D2, D2 is less annoying to read.
I'm not exactly sure about my read on you, because if you know how I operate, then you also know im very easy to pocket by townreading me and defending me.

Speaking of, while your method of sorting me works 100% it also is very PAINFUL for me to experience it to the point that i just short circuit and never get any reads worth anything.
There are better methods of sorting me that i dont know about but apparently some people do.

[Sakura Hana]

So why did u resort to that when in my summary i told you i was apparently (and misunderstood) mechanically clear.

[Sakura Hana]

technically it wasnt a d2 gate claimed doc.
Pretty sure ppl misunderstood him as having a cop guilty on you until several pages later he claimed doc by getting paranoid of you.

But that's not here nor there, that's just semantics, but I can see what you mean.

[Sakura Hana]

What are you guys talking about? Who is a d2 gate claimed doc?

Talking about a previous game, where i replaced into a Town Doc slot and Niko had been ML'd D2.

[Sakura Hana]

Also yes CK, can you at least let Tanaka catch up.

[Sakura Hana]

So you have an active night ability, and you were on the lynch wagon.
Interesting.

but Cloud has really annoyed me here

What am i, chopped liver?

[Sakura Hana]

but Cloud has really annoyed me here

What am i, chopped liver?

Hmm...what do you mean here sakura?

Don't let CK get to you, i for one value your reads if i can figure out you're town here (i mean you solved the game i couldn't).

[Sakura Hana]

but Cloud has really annoyed me here

What am i, chopped liver?

Hmm...what do you mean here sakura?

Don't let CK get to you, i for one value your reads if i can figure out you're town here (i mean you solved the game i couldn't).

I solved it by luck tbh, I'm just putting airs because CK is genuinely getting on my nerves and I want to badmouth him

Well that's how I feel everytime someone scumreads me when im town.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh no

don't tell me this is a fruit vendor investigative

i'm not sure if I laugh or cry

I mean this is a game where the VTs have BP abilities.

[Sakura Hana]

Are we about to witness

MURDER?

[Sakura Hana]

bitch.

Either bambs is a liar or I get redirected

Or you got roleblocked.

[Sakura Hana]

Going over CC's ISO he said that FTC was scum, so i can see it as a possibility.

[Sakura Hana]

You know Tanaka.
This might actually end up like a repeat of colors.
You might as well stop efforting.

[Sakura Hana]

seems like MariaR needs to do some troubleshooting.

[Sakura Hana]

boot C:/admin/HOPE/MariaR/Troubleshoot.exe t: UID011

[Sakura Hana]

you know what

let make things spicy

i'm a bodyguard.

the hydra targeted Dunn n1.

I never intended to use it though, not worth it.

That's... hard to believe actually.

[Sakura Hana]

Why? .-.

It's RC Superfan, and i hard townlocked RC, im pretty sure they'd have bodyguarded him.

[Sakura Hana]

Yea.

I am the head of a company. I assume every company (perhaps even the nominal scum company) can send out letters.

What do you mean "nominal scum company"

Shinratech

AHAHAHA nice one xD
Im tempted to unvote you from that reference only.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh, nvm me, continue on ._.

[Sakura Hana]

This whole day is become a whole lot about corporate mechanics

Does that mean i should peace out coz some bastard got me fired and im a NEET now?
Actually, that might not be that bad.
I get more time for animu.

[Sakura Hana]

That... makes the claim more legit actually.
Good Niko's town, who's next.

[Sakura Hana]

The scumhunter in me wants to lynch Creature meta.
The human in me thinks pisskop may not be scum and i was wrong about FTC being creature.

[Sakura Hana]

Well it's not like I have any use for Serum.

[Sakura Hana]

Thanks to SOMEONE.

[Sakura Hana]

i just remembered

[Sakura Hana]

Oh! you know

@Oversoul:

Do you know if what happened to you was an event or a night action?

i dont remember if you answered this or not.

[Sakura Hana]

Tinfoil Theory: OS targeting a miller or simotech with the serum would turn him into a miller via a hidden event effectually making him a cop of some sorts.

Which is why im asking.

[Sakura Hana]

LMAO

[Sakura Hana]

Also i got another interesting bit of theory

@PK:

Can you check the ammount of Serum you have and see if it makes sense with what you should have?

[Sakura Hana]

mine also had the "only" part, which is also why i dont get how unwnd misread that.

[Sakura Hana]

and i had the same ability and i was also from WNGD Research Centre.
But i think companies may be relevant to actual PRs, and that ability is just the "VT" of the setup.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh yeah speaking of, dont forget someone has the power to get you fired from your company.
And since no one has claimed to have used it on me, then im going to assume it's a scum ability.

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: ftc

FTC is now PK.

[Sakura Hana]

Tinfoil Theory: OS targeting a miller or simotech with the serum would turn him into a miller via a hidden event effectually making him a cop of some sorts.

Which is why im asking.

I lol'd

[Sakura Hana]

Creature getting prodded out is 100% Creature scum.
That's meta.

If I remember correctly he doesn’t get replaced as scum he just lurks

I've had one game (Albeit admiteddly i dont remember which), before I knew creature's black and white meta where he flaked as scum and we lynched the replacement as a result.

[Sakura Hana]

Actually maybe that one was Nero and not Creature

[Sakura Hana]

@PK:

Can you check the ammount of Serum you have and see if it makes sense with what you should have?

[Sakura Hana]

I don't use any serum in my role.

im a clean living moon baby

So that means you should have 2 then, right? Can you check if you do?

[Sakura Hana]

Actually i forgot something, and that something completely debunks my theory i was going with, so this is going nowhere. Oops.

[Sakura Hana]

Basically PK saying he got a bunch of envelopes of different colors seemed to be like he was a target of a mass redirector/lightning rod-izer/Psychomagnet, which would mean CC could've been redirected to him, but then I remember Bambi claimed to have received the red envolpe so...
Dangit why is my memory so bad -_-

[Sakura Hana]

Oh! you know

@Oversoul:

Do you know if what happened to you was an event or a night action?

i dont remember if you answered this or not.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh I missed it.
K speculation #2 debunked.

[Sakura Hana]

Now im back to the drawing board orz

[Sakura Hana]

EVERYONE's a suspect until proven innocent.

So Unwnd and CC are innocent, no one else can be? xD

[Sakura Hana]

I didn't say that. You don't have to DIE to be confirmed!

I didn't say that. They are the confirmed ones right now.

[Sakura Hana]

Program online. Systems at 75% everything appears to be functional. Requesting user update

Run C:/MariaR/HOPE/UpdatePack/Update.exe

[Sakura Hana]

H.O.P.E. What do you think of user 11?

[Sakura Hana]

btw yes if you can't tell I have to talk in a dif text than normal and call people users. The robot type thing was all me

User 11's previous admin was believed to be Creature in disguise, who flaked, what's your opinion on that.

[Sakura Hana]

Eh, quoted the wrong thing.

[Sakura Hana]

Im so town, content flows so far

All your "content" has been throwing shade at me but never voting me, and going around talking about envelopes, and repeating that you're town, and not playing to your self-proclaimed town meta.

[Sakura Hana]

So those should be our choices for a lynch today, Celestial Coordinates and unwnd are dead which leaves 8 people, of course there are people I don't want lynched in this list.

Wait a minute

Fred the Cat WAS on the lynch, I thought he wasn't

VOTE: Pisskop

Also I'm 99% sure FTC was Creature, I've literally seen creature use that exact FTC avatar on his profile. Obviously no proof but yeah, and his posting style was really obvious

@MariaR

[Sakura Hana]

pisskop isn't simotech. get off his wagon.

Well unless you can debunk what i have against PK, you can bet im never getting off his wagon.

• His predecesor being a Creature Alt
  
• His predecessor playing to their scum meta
  
• Himself not playing to his self-proclaimed town meta

[Sakura Hana]

Oh yeah someone else mentioned that.

[Sakura Hana]

I do know scum creature is barely there, it wouldnt surprise me if they get prodded out sometimes? not that I have any evidence of that.

[Sakura Hana]

However, apparently IF that alt was a Creature alt, then Creature WAS avoiding this game.

[Sakura Hana]

Well if it is Creature, he is avoiding this game. He is posting elsewhere on site. Additionally, doesn’t Creature hate scum?

[Sakura Hana]

Town creature can be barely there too

Though that's not a completely equivalent comparison since he repped in to the slot in that game.

Checking timestamps there doesnt look like he's barely there, but w/e. PK isnt playing like he was doing in Colors, disagree?

[Sakura Hana]

What is his town meta?

ohhoho

im town

I'll prove it by being usless until lylo

it's common knowledge mu scumgame is top tier, so I'll town by being a meh lurker

And yes that is the impression he gave me in colors (being a meh and useless lurker most of the game).

[Sakura Hana]

@A50: What do you think about OS's reaction at the start of the day?

[Sakura Hana]

Also im pretty sure Maria being kinda lurky makes her more likely to be town than scum.

[Sakura Hana]

That weasel took made most of us look like fools in that game. I was the biggest fool of all.

So you're saying he faked anger about what happened to him and is therefore lying about it?

[Sakura Hana]

He didnt look super towny in starry night?

[Sakura Hana]

death millers flip scum on death when in reality they arent.
Also that's bastard and is also part of moderator lies

[Sakura Hana]

ap's vote was p opportunistic

how interesting, i could've sworin i heard that bef-

I do think we should be looking at Almost because he’s been opportunistic all game. I think we probably get a big at some point and it might be worth it to use on PK.

Ah yes
goold ol' parroting.

[Sakura Hana]

Where are your reads at sakura?

My reads huh.
That's a good question
Pretty sure i strongly townread Dunn and Tanaka, I also townread MariaR, you, Oversoul and to a lesser extent A50.
PK's more than likely scum.

Also i 3P read Bambi. if that's... how you'd call it.

[Sakura Hana]

Ah i also townread PP.

[Sakura Hana]

And GE and KidAmn, hmm, am i forgetting someone?
If i am it's probably coz it's a large and i have bad memory.

[Sakura Hana]

Actually let's make that prettier:

Reads List v1.0

Strong Town

Dunnstral
Tanaka

Towny

Cloudkicker
MariaR
KidAmn
Gamma Emerald
PenguinPower
Oversoul

null-town

Almost50

3P?

Bambi Jay

That creature thing

pisskop

Leftovers

Rautherdir
Chemist1422
RedPanda
WhemeStar
Primate

[Sakura Hana]

Hard to say with how much the votes are fluctuating, and im pretty sure i've explained my reasons for voting PK several times.

[Sakura Hana]

hmm k
UNVOTE:

[Sakura Hana]

So RP town, PK town by extension. I have too many townreads, maybe i should just drop A50 back to leftovers and call it a day.

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: Almost50

[Sakura Hana]

Dunnstral 802, Bambi Jay 877, PenguinPower 1278, Fred the Cat 1319, Rautherdir 1620, Almost50 1706, Celestial Coordinates 1816, Sakura Hana 1831, Cloudkicker 1834, unwnd 1841

Dunnstral

Bambi Jay

PenguinPower

Pisskop

Almost50

Celestial Coordinates

Sakura Hana

Cloudkicker

unwnd

[Sakura Hana]

Oh i missed rautherdir

[Sakura Hana]

Dunnstral 802, Bambi Jay 877, PenguinPower 1278, Fred the Cat 1319, Rautherdir 1620, Almost50 1706, Celestial Coordinates 1816, Sakura Hana 1831, Cloudkicker 1834, unwnd 1841

Dunnstral

Bambi Jay

PenguinPower

Pisskop

Rautherdir
Almost50

Celestial Coordinates

Sakura Hana

Cloudkicker

unwnd

[Sakura Hana]

Ah ok
VOTE: Rauther

[Sakura Hana]

Dunnstral 802, Bambi Jay 877, PenguinPower 1278, Fred the Cat 1319, Rautherdir 1620, Almost50 1706, Celestial Coordinates 1816, Sakura Hana 1831, Cloudkicker 1834, unwnd 1841

Dunnstral

Bambi Jay

PenguinPower

Pisskop

Rautherdir

Almost50

Celestial Coordinates

Sakura Hana

Cloudkicker

unwnd

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[Sakura Hana]

(ftr I was only colored Green the ppl that was on "Strong Town" list)

[Sakura Hana]

This also means i need to reanalyze my "not strong town but not null-town" reads oh joy.

[Sakura Hana]

Reads List v1.1

Strong Town

Dunnstral
Tanaka
Cloudkicker
PenguinPower
Almost50
pisskop
RedPanda

Towny

MariaR
KidAmn
Gamma Emerald
Oversoul

3P?

Bambi Jay

Leftovers

Rautherdir
Chemist1422
WhemeStar
Primate

[Sakura Hana]

Maybe ill dump MariaR down.

[Sakura Hana]

(ftr I was only colored Green the ppl that was on "Strong Town" list)

I'm blue because I'm SUPER townie, obviously.

Blue for 3P.

[Sakura Hana]

Watch me solve this game via PoE and then get my alignment switched by some annoying event or something.

[Sakura Hana]

He deserves to be lynched for that alone! WHAT CRUELTY!

[Sakura Hana]

Want to claim masons with me instead?

This is a weird way to "claim masons" tho.

This is a wagon I won't be letting happen today :/

Uhh...I think I would have kind of noticed you guys were probably masons here...

maybe I should read the game before posting²

Ok that actually makes sense if they are actually truly masons.

[Sakura Hana]

Also hi Rainn.
No, i wasnt Millerized, i was fired from my company.
Yes, we're spefically told if it's a Night Action, and OS confirmed it was one.

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: Primate

[Sakura Hana]

I mean we already know that OS never reached you since u didnt get the serum.

[Sakura Hana]

Allegedly if it isnt his role

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: A50

Oh! Spicy!
But no.

[Sakura Hana]

He has no reason too

What gives you that impression

[Sakura Hana]

Srsly tho Wheme if you want to win a star for "the most useless player" you might as well stay in the not voting section.

[Sakura Hana]

I'm sketched out with the amount of investigative claims already

Me too

But this game's Bastard anything can happen.

[Sakura Hana]

Rainn, im pretty sure from where you've read there's speculation that Simotech since they are the ones that make the serum may have other ways of getting serum.
While hunting in the wagon is good, i dont think going that high on "HE'S THE ONLY POSSIBLE PERSON" is a good idea.

[Sakura Hana]

so pk you in "all the hoods" again?

[Sakura Hana]

Not really, i just found it funny.
I wish i was in a bunch of hoods.

[Sakura Hana]

lets swap role pms.

whats yours?

the same as the sample role pm but from a different company, WCwhatever research thing.
That's been obvious since like the end of D1.

[Sakura Hana]

Not Voting - Rautherdir,

Chemist1422

, Dunnstral, Oversoul, WhemeStar, Rainn, Primate, CloudKicker

i lol'd

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: Wheme
Well i wanted this D1 but CC didnt want to, so this makes me happy.

[Sakura Hana]

Where is everyone anyway, it feels like it's been ages since most ppl have posted.
Also happy scumday GE.

[Sakura Hana]

So did chemist lurker get replaced by another lurker or is this claude person going to do stuff.

[Sakura Hana]

I'm busy irl, and I'm not particularly that interested in this game. If I do have spare time and energy, I'll use it.

damn, i was hoping you'd be efforting this game.

[Sakura Hana]

RP said his ability doesnt work on simotech tho? @Dunn
However it's possible he could be aligned with Aeon Technologies.

Didn't someone talk about knowledge of it being an alignment on D1?

[Sakura Hana]

Johnson & Company are a red company

Idk the list of companies show it more brown than red to me, but im not gonna use coloring to scumhunt anyhow.

[Sakura Hana]

Is your quoting thing still broken.

[Sakura Hana]

Hmmm if that’s a vig shot then Almost is def scum. If not then, I’m not sure anymore

Bambi who did you say you were aligned with/employed by?

Cant you think of a reason why someone would've liked to vig PP?
Why if it isnt a vig then A50 is defo not scum?

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And why PP over RP.

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It's also possible that events will determine whether or not Aeon is a threat to the rebellion or not.

I mean, their wincon is anti-town, so no.

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Sakura, your push on my slot bc of creature seems like it was kind of faked.

Honestly i dont really care to push your slot anymore.

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I just get really desperate when creature scum meta is involved coz i wouldnt be able to live it down if i let a creature scum win.

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This game is getting more confusing than Gistou

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Yes I also think its a pretty complicated setup and I juste stopped trying to predict stuff from flavor, ill just roll and vote scummy slots

You're right i should probably do that
VOTE: Claude

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What makes u think a faction cant have a factional ability other than communication and NK.

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I've seen a way less complex game give scum a factional roleblock.

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Then where is the nightkill?

Actually, that's a good question, sorry didnt think of that.

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Is the bastardness of this game that there really is no simotech?

Is your opinion that i should go back on fish then?

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Wait, but if there's no Simotech then who killed PP.

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It's probably more likely that it's multiball... FML bastard AND multiball? what the hell did i sign up for.

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Atleast 3 living neighborizors (panda, Fish, Pisskop), one Bodyguard, a survivor, 2 masons, a millerized serum vendor.

And you forgot about me getting fired from my company.

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@Rainn: Gistou is one of the most famous games on this sight, and it did have a cult in it.

Also one of the most confusing setups, because even halfway through the game i still didnt know what my alignment was. It was THAT confusing.

Also A50 would 100% know if his alignment changed, when I got fired the mod was very specific in telling me that my alignment didnt change.

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If PP goal was to survive why fake a inno on A50 though...

This is a good question.
In adition assuming he should've assumed multiball if it is multiball due to team sizes and/or the fact that the mod mentioned Simotech as an alignment, that just gives him a crosshair to the other team.
But if another team didn't kill it then who did, A50 says he's not PGO nor anything similar and is just assuming he died coz he failed to turn him into a robot?
That doesn't make sense either.

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Also the 2 serum i received was labelled as a night action, but in thread is being specified as an event, so I guess it's safe to assume that a "Night action" label doesnt necessarily mean it was caused by a player.

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Also if an alignment changed the alignment of a player to theirs via action, and that alignment needs to outnumber the town, that is strictly a cult.

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Wait what, im confused, "You activating him could've caused his death" "You are a killing role" how does that not fit with a PGO.

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Wait what, im confused, "You activating could've caused his death" "You are a killing role" how does that not fit with a PGO.

EBWODP

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So let me get this straightened up coz im confused again:

1) You activated yourself last night
2) You are a killing role
3) You believe PP died due to targeting you.

Like why do u think people assume PGO.

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Well i did just PM the mod.
I just saw that and then i saw the announcement and assumed they were both the same thing.

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Nah. You claimed to have lost your job but they gave you serum anyway... And not me?

This is a good point.
And if this is true what does that make OS

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Exactly!

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Do ya know who gave it to you?

Nope, I have some guesses tho.

Wait, is OS being a serum vendor and millerized different from you just being fired, Sakura? I thought that was the same thing.

Well im not a miller, and he kept his company, so yes i'd say so.

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and why are you saying that PP possibly targeted you tonight for the kill?

Or you aren't saying that a50?

He's saying that he's a killing role and he activated himself last night.
He's saying that PP possibly died from trying to turn him into a killing role when he was a killing role.

Can you make heads or tails of that coz i cant.

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I mean, last resort i'd ask A50 to claim, but right now my focus is on OS if this extra strictly better serum vendor is true because:
A) OS role was never confirmed nor is his millerization.
B) OS pred was kinda suspected D1.

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Well im first gonna wait for the mod to let me know.
I am aware of how much serum i SHOULD have.

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Sakura(?)

Pretty sure i claimed i was the same role as the sample role PM except from the W research centre company and then i got fired.

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so
0+2 lynch = 2.
2+2 lynch = 4.
4-1 activate = 1.
1+2 event = 3.
3 - 1 upkeep = 2.
2 - 3 activate = ????

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Ok nvm, i just read the rest of your post.

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Also A50, im pretty sure ppl in Gistou kept their abilities after conversion.

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Damn i was hoping that by the time i got done playing some of the new touhou i'd have a PM from the mod.

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Honestly tho, i could lynch CK too atp.

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We have one hood per company.

Not really?
I had no hood before i got fired.

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before i got fired.

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Sakura changing her mind on my slot when i praticaly vomitted my role d1 just to make a point across.

I mean so did i.
BUT it's the sample role PM.

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Why do you even play forum mafia when you are second guessing my slot from your pov?

Uhh... What? so to play forum mafia i cant second guess myself?

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Like i still dont understand why am i supposed to be so sure you're town if you really are.

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Nor why you are so sure i am town.

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If you didnt make this so confusing you wouldn't be in this mess to begin with.

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I don't think we're really arguing about your claim here Cloud, but your behavior and actions. Give town something to work with here.

His argument is that coz we had the same role PM which is the same as the sample role PM with an extra word, we should be conf town to each other.
Even tho that's hardly provable.
And idk what to think anymore.

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Everytime ive tried to push scumreads i get walled by someone or something going like "NUUU THEY'RE TOWN" so i just want to throw my hands in the air and give up.

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It's like there's too many scum in this game if the only ppl that can be pushed end up flipping town.

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I just want to lynch scum is too much to ask T_T

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I'm voting Claude tho.
Kidamm's town.
scum!MariaR wouldnt be this lackluster.

I wanted to push PK yesterday but i got stonewalled because "NO HE'S NOT SIMOTECH GET OFF HIM" by redpanda and apparently he thinks he's scum now or something?