Death Note: I’ll Be The One Writing Your Name

[Vorkuta]

Hi again to RCE, Bingle, Chara, A50, BEF, LUV, and ducky
Nice to meet the rest of you.

OMGUS VOTE: Chara

[Vorkuta]

Ok, now that I got that out of the way-

We should all mass claim our favorite snacks.

[Vorkuta]

meh that's close enough to a potato chip I suppose

[Vorkuta]

Btw how many pages of shitposting before we can get to the mechanics part of the game?

[Vorkuta]

Ok we're getting serious now.

I propose that everyone WITH superpowers claims "yay or nay"
This is a rare opportunity to properly massclaim without the fear of being NK'd, so I think we should take advantage of it.

I'm also envisioning an N1 where literally every player reveals but we can get a pretty damn not bad solve afterwards

[Vorkuta]

The rest of yall?

[Vorkuta]

don't think now is when we discuss it

So can we fast forward through the inevitable ~10 pages worth of shitposts, personal grudges, and bad pushes to get to that point ASAP?

[Vorkuta]

Or we could no Lynch just to confirm no Night Actions can take place and massclaim on D2

[Vorkuta]

I think the bigger picture is more helpful than some off-comment that some random player made that may or may not be relevant when sorting them

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I accept this act of fast forwarding

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I want "are you a PR y/n" answered, which does not involve a reveal.
Once we have sufficiently many claims to formulate a plan of attack, we swarm with numbers/broken interactions/trackers confirming actions and all that good stuff

[Vorkuta]

Only good things happen when monkey plays ball with me

Sweet.
Best case scenario, we get an estimate of how many "VTs" there are in this game and hopefully people can ask for PRs that can complement theirs and some broken interaction that we can abuse exists.

[Vorkuta]

The odds of scum piecing anything relevant together are way too small for this to be a threat IMHO.
Tinfoil hats off please people

[Vorkuta]

So minor issue- if the wagon goes traditionally (run up to L2/L1) and a claim (+reveal, because that's what everyone and their grandmother will be pushing for) comes.... then what?

[Vorkuta]

WE REALLY DO NOT WANT TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN

*ahem*
We do

Right now
In a controlled environment
Where everyone does it under the same conditions and without "prompting" via being put to L1

[Vorkuta]

I was thinking we could use a fair amount of no lynches

Or we could no Lynch just to confirm no Night Actions can take place and massclaim on D2

+1 but like...

[Vorkuta]

1- potential broken setup interactions AND "mod confirmable reveals"
2- oh ok, so we just do the usual thing that happens in every game where one-by-one, night-by-night scum kills people until endgame
in a setup where we can literally massclaim without any consequences

[Vorkuta]

There's no reason to No lynch to let scum blindly guess identities

Comparing this to Boon Wars is a completely false analogy and you know it.

The fact that he's apparently refusing to scumhunt by any other means is a huge red flag.

Why yes- I am absolutely incapable of forming reads this game and will only contribute whgat I perceive to be the optimum mechanical play and nothing more.

/s

Ffs

[Vorkuta]

So can we fast forward through the inevitable ~10 pages worth of shitposts, personal grudges, and bad pushes to get to that point ASAP?

Have we cooled off or is this a bad time?

[Vorkuta]

I'd argue that the mod is the shinigami king so there's no breach in flavor/cannon so far

[Vorkuta]

>shinigami not HAVING shinigami eyes *smh*

[Vorkuta]

Oh oh oh
are we mass claiming?
But with more extra steps?

Is this the part that I wanted to fast forward to?

[Vorkuta]

Oh boy
do we lynch people with negative utility or scum equity?

Decisions, decisions...

[Vorkuta]

daycop shot

*flavorcop

Which, as every player here is yelling on about "is not alignment indicative"

Which I think is complete BS, because if we hit 'Light/Kira' with an eye deal then fuck yeah but... k

[Vorkuta]

ninja'd so hard

ducky did

[Vorkuta]

Which I think is complete BS, because if we hit 'Light/Kira' with an eye deal then fuck yeah but... k

come on

you can't be this dense

[Vorkuta]

Let me try with my shpiel again

We all mass flavor claim and use night actions and shinigami eye deals to verify each and everyone to get 70% of a game solve and pinpoint the bad guys to like ~4 contradictions
We aren't afraid of night kills
The scum team will have too many hurdles to leap through in order to manufacture a version of events where EVERYTHING stays consistant
Also we aren't afraid of night kills

inb4 "but site meta"

[Vorkuta]

why I'd get a "no result" first

shinigami cant flip

[Vorkuta]

I mean from my point of view, anyone that isn't accepting my mechanical PoV and potential solve is either
-intentionally obstinate and is clinging to site meta, and refusing to innovate given the perfect environment
-scum roadblocking/derailing/obstructing said solve

And I'm actually scumhunting in my way as I lack familiarity with the roster and the.... "patience" to go toe-to-toe with some of the more outspoken personalities here.

But sure

[Vorkuta]

But yeah, make a false and/or situation that fits your agenda

Sure- misinterpret and handwave away a legitimate and potential game-winning strategy based on no evidence and pure speculation.
And feel free to throw some shade at me while you're at it

[Vorkuta]

Your 'innovative strategy' is something people have been doing successfully in setups that support it

Ok- that's great and beautiful, but I haven't seen any of that at all recently.
I understand that nowadays setups are explicitly balanced around 'not' mass claiming, but I've played in several games where an early mass claim (or like... the 2 relevant roles claiming on time) would win the game.
Why not do it here?

Oh- you're just shading my word choice "innovative" because it's been done A LONG TIME ago, but not now.
I concede.

Let's take the setup that is balanced around inconsistent nightkills, and let scum nightkill consistently.

Bambi claimed "miller enabler" and whatever if he's dead.
Any scum worth his salt already eye'd him and is going to N1 kill him.
And that was WITHOUT my prompting.
We're ALREADY going to lose roles by roles, so we might as well bite the bullet and not go out pathetically 1-by-1.

Also you're misinterpreting my strategy but that fits in very well with your agenda of 'lets lynch vork kthnx'

[Vorkuta]

1- This isn't a Normal.

Thank you. My point exactly.
Why people are treating it like a traditional "hey lets scumhunt and use night actions 1 by 1 until we hit LyLo at which we massclaim" is beyond me but ok

2- Flavor in this game is the way Scum can kill.
3- You claim that we are not afraid of the Nk

you just... answered.... nvm
Yes- flavor is the only way in which scum can kill.
Thus unless we have a proper series of role interactions that would break the game, there's no need to flavor claim.

Roles could be an indicators of some flavor still

1- I don't think it would be that intuitive/straightforward. Like there are "10" roles that would fit the task force.
Oh you think that just because in the source material Matsuda shoots Light, that makes him a vig? Naive.
2- You can't have it both ways. You guys are the ones proselytizing the mantra that "flavor is not alignment indicative" and you spout this BS. It's a contradiction. As I've said 50 times already- if we hit light with an eye deal, that's gold.
3- So we could be unlucky and have a bunch of people who are obsessed with the series, or are going to (re)read/watch all of the source material and scrape the bottom of the barrel for clues, but I doubt that.
4- We already have evidence that flavor <-> roles are BS with eva's Ryuk claim being..... "functionally a miller".
5- Bad guys have to flavor flip to do anything to fuck with night actions as well. I think its better to take the offensive on this one

pedit
@Bambi- yes. I got that.
As a result keeping you alive is pointless as you're effectively conf!town'd and never going to provide the utility they need.

[Vorkuta]

(consensus-wise) everyone already believes that Bambi is conf!town with his claim.
He will never flip and activate.

Thus either scum has a way/trick to force a flip (in which case, it's more beneficial to take the offensive and not play reactively)
or
scum shoots bambi as leaving someone conf!town'd is a meh play.

Much better than using an eye deal on a random and praying they hit a high-value TPR.

[Vorkuta]

@monkey- here's a thought experiment.

In memory of a recent game or two, I hypoclaim

multitasking fruit vendor

VT

some sort of JOAT.. let's say 1-shot cop, 1-shot tracker, and like 1-shot doctor.
You have a nice compiled list of roles courtesy of eva in #75

You can't and you won't find said flavor.
(inb4 "but you made the roles up!!11!!!")

Likewise no amount of knowledge of the source material will help with trying to determine the "friendly neighbor" flavor, bambi's flavor, ducky's and butthead's neighborhood (but muh canon interactions between 2 characters) flavor.
So why are we having this argument?

Obviously mordhaus might have something damning. Great- he should have the brains to tell a white lie.
Obviously "L" might have to fudge the truth a bit as well (I mean come on- what kind of death note game is it where Light doesn't have to find L?).
But the rest of us being more or less honest would give us a proper gameplan without any of the downsides.

[Vorkuta]

So be honest if you use the shinigami eyes, okay?

*sighs*
way to out that and make the scum team more cautious about liberal application of said eye deal
would've been far more optimal to do that AFTER we'd have an NK
just....

isn't your strategy also based on speculation?

the assumptions I'm making are far more reasonable than his

[Vorkuta]

the assumptions I'm making are far more reasonable than his

Because this will be contested by the usual suspects, I'll clarify right now

Mordhaus (and to some extent A50) are implicitly assuming that the scum team as a bunch of nerds that are willing to (re)watch the anime frame-by-frame and analyze the manga under a microscope to try and guess the flavor <-> role interactions.

[Vorkuta]

personally, for me it's that mafia is ultimately a social game and not a setup puzzle to solve

That's completely fair, but I'm hoping other people can see the light

punintended

and the unique situation we've been provided.
I'm not complaining about the lack of cooperation, but more about the lack of (what I perceive to be) decent arguments agssinst my case and the obstructionism.

you don't need to be a weeb to know a lot about it or be able to read a wiki

*sighs*
Casual enjoyment of source =/= ability to guess flavor from roll.
These guys seem to think that THE INSTANT someone so much as says "cop", they're 100% outed,
Which is BS (and my main point of contention, but I was being facetious to try and explain my case)

you're still misunderstanding Bambi's role

Bambi says nothing: night time, cop shots hit the mark
Bambi says "mod reveal me": night time, cops now can hit millers.
Bambi dies after reveal: no more millers

Hence

He will never flip and activate.

Thus either scum has a way/trick to force a flip (in which case, it's more beneficial to take the offensive and not play reactively)
or
scum shoots bambi as leaving someone conf!town'd is a meh play.

[Vorkuta]

So shut up or nut up?

I like how you're selectively ignoring 60% of my words and still can spout this but OK.

BUT FINE
Let me repeat myself

I'm assuming that people with a negative utility roll (like bambi and yourself) would have the insight to tell a white lie while claiming.
Likewise with L.
And scum would have to choose between the greater of several evils to tamper with during night time, probably having to flavor flip as well in the process.

[Vorkuta]

And are you insulting the scumteams intelligence that being hated means they can make them easier to track, that they didn't already realize that?

I mean why not run everyone up to L-1 right this very moment then? Why D3?

Now would be a good time.
After the first NK would also be a good time.
D3....?

[Vorkuta]

Oh shit LUV is in this game

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Theres only a very limited number of flavours that that description could belong to.

Really?

[Vorkuta]

What about this set-up Allows a massclaim without consequence?

It's one step forward 2 steps back with you isn't it?

-I (hypo)claim "cop"
-scum can't kill me because they don't know my flavor
>introduction about shinigami eyes
-scum can eye deal
-we run people up to L1 to determine whether they used it in secret
-they can't get us all in 1 night so something useful is bound to go through

[Vorkuta]

VOTE: misa
One of the first decent things I've seen this game

[Vorkuta]

casual reminder that bambi has the towniest roll in the game

[Vorkuta]

hatred test

Inb4 it takes a few IRL days for the

@mod

to acknowledge this

[Vorkuta]

*someone needs to say deal for me to start doing it*

No deal because bambi is town

[Vorkuta]

[Vorkuta]

im pretty sure ive been flavourcopped

@L-1 everybody?
Do we L1 everybody?
Let's run everybody up to L1

/s

I think you overvalue your... "contributions" considering the amount of 'softed' roles we have

Pedit
Considering how you flavorcop'd eva... right after wooper did...., you'll forgive me for reacting in that way

[Vorkuta]

had the flavor cop result when I subbed in

*tableflips*
Goddamit Mikan

Cheers- my bad then.

[Vorkuta]

I'm having a blast with all the mechanics so..,

[Vorkuta]

Vote Count 1.07

@modperson

Is there a special reason why several people's names aren't bolded?

[Vorkuta]

confirmed non-eyebearer at this point?

correct- put to L-1 twice and still not dead

[Vorkuta]

How do you suggest I get that to happen?

wait?

[Vorkuta]

Has misa succeeded in posting a gif yet?
I might unvote if it's a really good one and there's a promise of more to come

[Vorkuta]

Hey shotgun read list is catching on. I'm unabashedly claiming that as my term

trendsetter

so I didn’t bold them yet

VOTE: luv
UNVOTE:
VOTE: mizzzy
UNVOTE:
there ya go

back to
VOTE: gifmaster misa

[Vorkuta]

Misa is being replaced!

might have something to do with

[Vorkuta]

Misa is being replaced!

might have something to do with

monkey quote me instead- I have fresher info

Also I'm assuming this means that the replacement slot lynch wont go through today.
VOTE: Ryuk

[Vorkuta]

im sorry papa bingle
where else should I put my vote?

Full disclosure I support an NL

[Vorkuta]

Oh wow I'm town

I'm going to regret this but

do a catch up to prove it

[Vorkuta]

Something fun happen in your hood?

[Vorkuta]

But he's giving me compliments and being a generally good slave

Shit is that all it takes?

[Vorkuta]

oh damn 19 hours left

wooper is a NO GO for me
we also dont have Burger Sings in syberian wasteland

[Vorkuta]

I say this about fish everytime I play with him

He always reads scummy to me and I find myself disagreeing with everyone of his posts based on tone/content/logic.
Then he flips green and I'm left expressionless

Creature has yet to obv!town himself

uhhh who else did I completely forget to acknowledge this game

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Just cos someone claims to be a vig they won't be Matusda" rubbed me up the wrong way cos it

What the shit

For real?

....
......
..........

@mod wtf?

[Vorkuta]

Jingle ded but ok

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Creature if you don't obv!town yourself soon.....

[Vorkuta]

Idk but I'd assume if Ryuk cant flip, he can't die

Also DOCTORS?

Also

@mod

post it in on the front page.

Also a few more things

[Vorkuta]

Ryuk - Reye

So- let's hear it

[Vorkuta]

Speaking of wooper- let's look at how he got run up so quickly?
Like sure his shitposts still remain... shitposts, but there might've been something scummy on top of mord

[Vorkuta]

Creature if you don't obv!town yourself soon.....

[Vorkuta]

VOTE: creature
Caught

[Vorkuta]

>ignoring 90% of the game
>sorting people purely based on their behavior towards your shitty slot

Creature, can you even be more self-centered?

[Vorkuta]

allignment

Did he flip and thus activate his superpowers?
No

[Vorkuta]

allignment

Did he flip and thus activate his superpowers?
No

Also this was an impulse correction
CHEMIST replaced into mikan/friendly neighbor slot
Creature replaced into misa (yesterday's lynch but not really) slot

Either way, no reveal = no neighbor tap but still oopsied

[Vorkuta]

Ninjad

[Vorkuta]

If we're flinging shit and calling each other names

Call GM: Can the Kira team only write one name into their deathnote each night? As in, is it a normal factional kill, limited to 1/night, with the requirement of knowing the flavour of the person they want to kill?

You don't think I confirmed "1 death note entry per night" with the mod before proposing my *innovative grand idea*?

[Vorkuta]

Vork is my fellow shinigami, shares a neighbourhood with me, and claimed simultaneously to me in that

Can confirm, dislike apples

Wanted to keep it quiet for longer but wtvs

[Vorkuta]

We aren't voting mello

[Vorkuta]

We aren't voting mello

Vecna?

RCEnigma - Mello

but then this happens?

Spicy.
Anyway- 1 book = 1NK

[Vorkuta]

We aren't voting mello

[Vorkuta]

He was attempting to power through with mechanics

like he did in Role Call

and not actually game solve/

[Vorkuta]

Evenstar

[Vorkuta]

I think my apprehension mostly has to do with knowing how vulnerable Vorkuta is in neighborhoods.

*triggered*
But yes- you can imagine the time I'm having.

But much better with eva & ducky's successor than in the... other hood.

[Vorkuta]

How do you find total number of hood occupants?

Activity overview...? No...

[Vorkuta]

mod posted

[Vorkuta]

Bambi Jay: It's

obvious

but I'll say it: Town

Where?

*sighs*

[Vorkuta]

I dont like the fact that theres just like, a significant portion of the game going on behind closed doors. That im not privvy to

Townspew attempt noted

[Vorkuta]

*stretches*
*cricks neck*
*cracks knuckles*

I think it's time we massclaimed

[Vorkuta]

The playerbase is just beginning to acknowledge their despair, we have a lynchpool of.... "3" people while some have gotten away without any scruitny whatsoever, and the biggest opponent to my massclaim (mord) is... dead and scum.
Come at me.

[Vorkuta]

And I mean that from the -fun perspective-.

I'm sorry I come here to

shitpost

not to have fun, but to

lose

win games

to have actually clever safeguards in place.

Yeah. One of which is your hood partner forgetting/retracting his hood story. Which changes your opinion on him now that you know.

proposing

Discussion first- everyone comes clean in text form
obligatory

hould have the brains to tell a white lie.
Obviously "L" might have to fudge the truth a bit as well (I mean come on- what kind of death note game is it where Light doesn't have to find L?).
But the rest of us being more or less honest would give us a proper gameplan without any of the downsides.

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Junko Enoshima

No, our danganronpa representative has unfortunately left us.

Stop grandstanding and play the damn game.

Like you've been doing.
Guessing everyone's flavor text all day every day.
I might try that

[Vorkuta]

Did I miss something irt this 21 days thing?

https://deathnote.fandom.com/wiki/Death ... s_of_Death
Ignoring the specific number/case

This is additional flavor that MAY OR MAY NOT be worked into the game.

[Vorkuta]

I'll explain shit later, and why I think even with a flavor like that he's town.

Keeping us in suspense

[Vorkuta]

What about Vork?

I'm Eva for all intents and purposes

[Vorkuta]

This pretty much also completely applies to me

Spoiler:

Okay, all these mechanics posts are bullshit. Flavour is

absolutely

indicative.

For example, I'm Ryuk, but because I'm a Shinigami my name can't be written in the death note, and therefore I cannot flip. Observe:

FLIP ME RYUK

And for good measure:

FLIP ME LIGHT YAGAMI

FLIP ME L LAWLIET

FLIP ME MISA AMANE

FLIP ME REM

FLIP ME NEAR

FLIP ME MELLO

FLIP ME WATARI

FLIP ME TOUTA MATSUDA

FLIP ME SOICHIRO YAGAMI

FLIP ME RAYE PENBER

FLIP ME TERU MIKAMI

FLIP ME SHUICHI AIZAWA

FLIP ME KANZO MOGI

FLIP ME HIDEKI IDE

FLIP ME HIROKAZU UKITA

FLIP ME MATT

FLIP ME BEYOND BIRTHDAY

FLIP ME NAOMI MISORA

FLIP ME AIBER

FLIP ME WEDY

Blah blah freaking blah you get it. Either I can't flip or I'm a ridicuously small bit part. Feel free to request more FLIP MEs from me if you want.

Claiming this now because the role is essentially a Miller in this setup.

Nay. Other than my inability to flip I'm vanilla.

Okay, so.

1: I'm not lynchproof.
2: I'm not even certain I'm NK-proof. It'll be fun to see whether I die in the night.
3: Either way, it was worth getting the inevitable wagon out of the way, since I tend to attract attention and saying "sorry I can't flip" when I was already close to being hammered would be bad. I'm not gonna repeat Magical Girls Mafia and get lynched as a miller D1.
4: Flavour is not randomized, powers fit the character.
5: Flavour might also be AI, for reasons.

Bambi is forced to flip as a result.

So Mord was right about Bambi's identity and that's another kill that didn't happen? I am just seriously confused about how we got no kills here. And now we are talking about Notes as a seperate thing from the idea of a factional kill..?

Even, is your read on Vork based on some knowledge about how Death Note kills work in this game? I was hoping that with my flip + mechanics and Naomi being flipped Kira it would help pull him more into the game but D2 has definitely been lackluster from him so far so I'm more open to him being scum.

Creature having no read on me at all is wtf to me. Even if you decide I was pulling some crazy gambit as scum/3rd party I feel like you should have some thoughts on me after my flip.

pedit: Creature replaced Misa. Chemist replaced Mikan.

Wooper claimed to have randed a Death Note in our neighbourhood D1. I chose not to out it because it would almost certainly have gotten him lynched and I had a strong townread on him. He's now passed that Death Note to another player, who joined the neighbourhood as a result. In doing so, he lost all his memories of having the Death Note, IE "being in our neighbourhood." If he talks about it too openly he may be modkilled, or at least he claims so.

Given that my neighbourhood is still composed of two shinigami and a death note user, I'm inclined to believe Wooper was telling the absolute truth and Death Notes are passed from player to player in this game like the most deranged game of musical chairs ever.

Vork is my fellow shinigami, shares a neighbourhood with me, and claimed simultaneously to me in that neighbourhood. I believe his claim, and think the chance of him being part of Kira is damn near nil.

Didn't want to get outed but meh

[Vorkuta]

If that's correct then he knew it was the case

That's not wrong, but there's more nuance to it.

I explicitly do not know anything abt the PT you guys are talking abt

For fucks sake

@all y'all
Lay off wooper.
He's under threat of modkill if he acknowledges the existence of literally anything to do with a death god.
He has to "roleplay" forgetting to see us and can't answer anything- this is obviously to prevent him from breaking the game by shouting "vork and eva are teh shinigamizzzz!" in main thread the second he can.

As for eva and the reason behind her white lie: let me just throw out an open question that may or may not imply something and that I won't entertain the details of.
-What do you guys think happens if a shinigami dies? More specifically- what do you think happens to a notebook that they may or may not have in their possession?

[Vorkuta]

There are other shinigami out there just fyi

Also creature's contributions are invaluable.
Please keep them up

[Vorkuta]

Stop hating
Creature's contributions are invaluable and his awareness of the gamestate is unmatched.

/s

[Vorkuta]

Your contributions are invalid

We should be able to solve this game through a massflipping

Most likely you're just third party whose wincon involves harming town

Remind me again how Kira died at the end of everything?

[Vorkuta]

Like a loser, in the top ten most anticlimactic anti-hero deaths of all time.

[Vorkuta]

Also, I want more accountability from that damn shinigami hood

@paging eva

are the 3rd parties and just dont give a fuck about town.

Remind me again how Kira died at the end of everything?

What was discussed there?

90% shitposting
10% explanation
You should've bugged ducky back when you were on speaking terms

Why are you keeping it a secret whom was giving the deathnote?

Why are you so certain it was town that had it and youre not just getting pocketed?

We aren't.
But the alternative is to lynch ducky to see if your shit holds up

[Vorkuta]

Did he explain to you guys why he was passing the deathnote along? Doesnt that feel like a weird ass play as town?

Because he was forced to?

You should figure out the priority/mechanics of how passing the note works

Because the mod said "no more deathnote for you- hand it over to someone else!"?

Did he explain his reasoning for wanting to get rid of it?

Yes. It had to do with the mod

I think you get the point/mechanic by now lel

Can the new person see the old dialogue

AFAIK yes- no newPT.
Hell, I don't even have explicit confirmation that ducky left the PT..... but that's on par with people allegedly being able to lurk/hide in other PTs lawl.

[Vorkuta]

Flip me Light

Just to prove I'm NOT light.

Hurr Durr why doesn't town do this en masse?

[Vorkuta]

your positivity and can-do attitude is very helpful

[Vorkuta]

Who's even worth voting at this point

[Vorkuta]

VOTE: LUV i suppose

[Vorkuta]

RCEnigma - Mello

Because this feels like a shitty scum!play unless that roll has broken superpowers

[Vorkuta]

When does Light get imprisoned for 50 days and handcuffed to L?
I'm hoping that's tomorrow

otherwise I won't be sufficiently entertained and no one's been feeding me apples

[Vorkuta]

a N1 kill attempt

They delayed it?

[Vorkuta]

Well no point in delaying it.

Looks like Mello was telling the Truth here and I get the results "Kira or Not Kira". Guess who came up as Kira.

VOTE: Alnost50

Yes but which Kira?

[Vorkuta]

We might have found their short wincon.

Remind me again how you inferred this?