This clearly needs to be killed with all possible kinds of fire. I propose lava to the chest.In post 76, Vorkuta wrote:Ok we're getting serious now.
I propose that everyone WITH superpowers claims "yay or nay"
This is a rare opportunity to properly massclaim without the fear of being NK'd, so I think we should take advantage of it.
I'm also envisioning an N1 where literally every player reveals but we can get a pretty damn not bad solve afterwards
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TownLuVIn post 98, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Not even in the middle of Day 1 yet and we have gotten lazy. Can we actually try to play the game before we even entertain the idea of mass claiming?-
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I did not like Vorkuta's trying to rolefish and get discussion on that started. I did like even less the few people that lowkey went along with it. I probably should dislike the people that were sagely advocating against it even less, but they did it in a way where I sort of feel like I dont care about the possibility of them being a baddy baddy.-
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Also, did someone crosscheck this for the later season badguys?In post 75, Evenstar wrote:Okay, all these mechanics posts are bullshit. Flavour isabsolutelyindicative.
For example, I'm Ryuk, but because I'm a Shinigami my name can't be written in the death note, and therefore I cannot flip. Observe:
FLIP ME RYUK
And for good measure:
FLIP ME LIGHT YAGAMI
FLIP ME L LAWLIET
FLIP ME MISA AMANE
FLIP ME REM
FLIP ME NEAR
FLIP ME MELLO
FLIP ME WATARI
FLIP ME TOUTA MATSUDA
FLIP ME SOICHIRO YAGAMI
FLIP ME RAYE PENBER
FLIP ME TERU MIKAMI
FLIP ME SHUICHI AIZAWA
FLIP ME KANZO MOGI
FLIP ME HIDEKI IDE
FLIP ME HIROKAZU UKITA
FLIP ME MATT
FLIP ME BEYOND BIRTHDAY
FLIP ME NAOMI MISORA
FLIP ME AIBER
FLIP ME WEDY
Blah blah freaking blah you get it. Either I can't flip or I'm a ridicuously small bit part. Feel free to request more FLIP MEs from me if you want.
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nah brah, hood composition might be a means for scum to deduce flavour shit. For example the cops, civilians, lights school friends, rem and his twin.
the mod claimed flavour is not allignment indicative. it might still be indicative for a ton of other stuff.
we aint claiming unless we got good reason.
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Your mislynch had nothing to do with your play. You were obvtown as fuck but people were being idiots.
This game, youre totally different.
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The nature of this game means that scum will try to run up A LOT OF WAGONS to get them to claim so they can have many nightkill options for days to come.In post 163, Mizzytastic wrote:If we believe them we leave them. Depending on the nature of their power it probably behooves them to use any powers as soon as possible. If the next wagon hits kira yay, if not we know who is probably dying.
Is not like mislynches and forced claims don't happen in normal games, just means if kira want to gambit they are likely to fail.
WE REALLY DO NOT WANT TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.
Use your vote -SPARINGLY-
Making a lot of town claim is a recipe for certain defeat.
Be extra careful with putting people in lynch range. yada yada-
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No the qiestion really doesnt make sense if im using a meta/tone argument based on three or so posts.In post 184, Chara wrote:Vecna: without a direct meta comparison, can you tell me about why RC is scum here? what i mean by that is why does his play here indicate his scum self/goals as scum? i hope that question makes sense.
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dude stop blaming me for your own shit play with these sad statements. you got heavily outplayed by bingle. learn to towntell and play protown. you helped lynch a lot more town than i did that game and your reads were way worse as well overallIn post 193, Almost50 wrote:
Deduction: Vorkuta's TownIn post 142, Vecna wrote:
This clearly needs to be killed with all possible kinds of fire. I propose lava to the chest.In post 76, Vorkuta wrote:Ok we're getting serious now.
I propose that everyone WITH superpowers claims "yay or nay"
This is a rare opportunity to properly massclaim without the fear of being NK'd, so I think we should take advantage of it.
I'm also envisioning an N1 where literally every player reveals but we can get a pretty damn not bad solve afterwards
Deduction: LUV might be scumIn post 143, Vecna wrote:
TownLuVIn post 98, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Not even in the middle of Day 1 yet and we have gotten lazy. Can we actually try to play the game before we even entertain the idea of mass claiming?
Deduction: RCE is IC level town
Deduction: Vecna is harmless to visit and scum in his hood are making him fake claim for their own convenience.In post 145, Vecna wrote:Im going to strongly advise all town PR's to never ever visit me at night. Dont do it. Its bad
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And despite all that you still got voted by a factor 4 more people over the last two days than bingle, including said cop.In post 260, Almost50 wrote:
Yes, I was. because I was the [redacted] in his hood, and I was the [redacted] who agreed to tell a lie based on his manipulation, and I was the [redacted] who refused to listen to logic that NO WAY a 3-person hood that was basically Acetic AND immune to town Vig shots was going to be a masonry, and then I was the [redacted] who voted the person that was cleared by BOTH Cops in the game. Excuse me for being the BUTT-HEAD I am.In post 242, Vecna wrote:you got heavily outplayed by bingle.
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Check the previous Deathnote game I was in. It had a similair mechanic. Scum also ran up a ton of people to get them to flavourclaim.In post 272, Mordhaus wrote:Mostly 165. I really don't like your 165.
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Scumslip? Youre not in our neighbourhoodIn post 318, Evenstar wrote:Wooper is >>rand not scum due to interactions we've had in our neighbourhood, IMO. I could be wrong, but he's gone out on a limb to be cooperative and helpful. I'm never lynching him today.-
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Really? What about Alisae? With hydra\s I also generally meant alt accounts. Anything to mess with your identity. So many unknownsIn post 360, Mordhaus wrote:
:/In post 351, Vecna wrote:All these damn hydras make this game pretty hard to get a proper view/idea about where to stand. Dont even remember who posted what and what feeling belonged to which person for like 40% of the playerlist.
~annoying~
I'm pretty sure I'm the only hydra here, and so far other me has made 1 post in the neighborhood and two in our hydra PT, one of which was lyrics from a song in the 80s and the other was apologizing for not having read anything yet.
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Town taking the deal is legit bad. The mod already told us that flavour does not correlate to allignment, so it wont help you catch scum. Why would you willingly make yourself easier to mislynch for other town/scum?
Taking the deal as town is anti win-con, unless the mod literally made a bastard game and lied about flavour allowing you to catch scum.
Besides, theres scum hiding in that townpool.
If no town take the deal, scum CANNOT TAKE IT EITHER.
If all town agree to not take the deal, we can put everyone to L-1 later on in the game and auto-lynch all scum.
SCUM need to take the deal to be able to nightkill.
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Also, the fact that the MOD is now acting as Ryuk and handing out Shimigami eyes deals makes me strongly doubt Evenstar's claim.
Theres a pretty good other reason why he could be immune to reveals, namely having the shimigami's mask. This was also given to the bad guys in the previous game to hide them, but there it made more sense since flavour was indicative of alignment.-
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VOTE: mikanIn post 582, Mikan Tsumiki wrote:I mean I literally just sent the action i-
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is it me or is this mod colour really really annoying?In post 662, Morality wrote:Chemist1422 replaces-
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Also, I dont really get this? As in, after you die, investigatives might get messed with? Or random people get a potential miller or GF modifier? Or that potential millers and gf's dont actually work while youre alive but produce normal results?In post 682, Bambi Jay wrote:That's an STD, not something I'm spreading at all. Or contracting.
But yeah, again, if you all missed it, upon my death Millers and Godfathers are a possibility. So Uh... There's a chance at a Godfather. If it exists.
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The game is balanced around scum not knowing our flavours and having to go through hurdles to find out to get normal night kills. Scum likely wont have to fake flavourclaim, because flavour is NAI.In post 716, Vorkuta wrote:Let me try with my shpiel again
We all mass flavor claim and use night actions and shinigami eye deals to verify each and everyone to get 70% of a game solve and pinpoint the bad guys to like ~4 contradictions
We aren't afraid of night kills
The scum team will have too many hurdles to leap through in order to manufacture a version of events where EVERYTHING stays consistant
Also we aren't afraid of night kills
inb4 "but site meta"
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Ive already stated my opinion on the current deal fiasco very clearly, but people are gonna do what they want regardless and scum will hide in that pool, negating any potential advantage. Im not sure what you expect me to do, complain and yell at people incessantly?
Im in sit and observe mode. Theres like 4 people that are not participating whatsoever atm, and untill the mod replaces them or prods them into participation im not interested in any lynch whatsoever.-
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Open pushing Alisae or RCE as scum comes without backlash in your opinion?
Also, im townreading Wooper based on play but I still have a bad feeling about the slot. Not really interested in lynching it today, but it would not surprise me in the slightest if its a scum undercover guy.
I also really dont like the fact I cannot openly speculate about people their flavour. Id love to talk about that shit, but even if im right it might just reveal a weird mod allocation of flavour to a towny, so that sort of kills one of my usual avenues of approaching a solve.-
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Regardless, people revealing their role/mechanics/flavour is just bad in general. Ive stated so before, but im pretty sure if I was tryharding scum here id have crossed out and identified plenty of flavours for certain people by now.
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Ill grant you that we want to keep apathy from this game. Im also pretty sure you dont actually think im scum, or under the impression that you were gonna get me lynched with your vote. Nor should you want to. And im pretty sure I wouldve responded if you just asked the questions or made the statements without voting me. But you do you I guess.In post 829, Chara wrote:
Alisae yes, e didn't have many defenders besides me, i think.In post 827, Vecna wrote:Open pushing Alisae or RCE as scum comes without backlash in your opinion?
Also, im townreading Wooper based on play but I still have a bad feeling about the slot. Not really interested in lynching it today, but it would not surprise me in the slightest if its a scum undercover guy.
RC i'll give you.
i disageee with the wooper townread, however. i mean, i've also found things to townread from him, but in the absence of literally anything else to push? i think it's more useful to pursue any avenues of scumhunting that we have than to wait around and let interest in the game die. that direction is where we'll find apathy and a boring scum win.
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Yes?In post 831, Vorkuta wrote:
Really?In post 828, Vecna wrote:Theres only a very limited number of flavours that that description could belong to.-
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Mordhaus and Enigma are scum together tbh.
This "your Enigma vote is shit" without showing any interest in reading the slot whatsoever on his own is a scumtell that Bingle loved to do in a previous game where he also tried to ask a lot of questions about scumreads on his partner just to poke at the weak points in their arguments-
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Let me just white-knight and say that this is a stupid ass wagon. And then let me provide a critical note that Mordhaus was the actual scum fake-whiteknighting by unvoting this wagon as soon as it got traction by virtue of not wanting to end the day yet, but doing nothing to garner discussion.
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