Mainstream Mafia II: D&D Edition [FIN]

[Miss Lane]

Howdy y'all! <3

@Bingle have I played with you before? You seem to be familiar with me. Sidle up alongside me, let's talk.

[Miss Lane]

Well well well. I didn't know Amrun was a real gosh-darneded Commy! We shoulda shot 'er back when we had the chance!

[Miss Lane]

Just in case anyone is wondering, many of the buttons on MafTiger simply don't show. Including the "Quote" button.

[Miss Lane]

Like, that isn't really a problem for when I'm trying to quote a post, because I know where the quote button SHOULD be, so I just click there. But the multi-quote button? Knowing if I've already clicked it or not? Yeah, not happening.

Seth, there's going to be more than one scum in a 40 players.

LOL, NO REALLY?
I’ve said that Millions of times.
Town Credit DECLINED.

Just because there is allot of scum doesn’t mean we aren’t going to end up Miss Lynch/Mislynch anyone.

I'm sorry what are you trying to do to me? I'll have you know I'm packing.

[Miss Lane]

I want to make sure we Lynch scum here.
But this time I want to make sure I don’t get miss lynched instead like all the other times I try.

You do seem to be a bit obsessed with me, hun. Relax a little, I just got here. Give a girl some space.

[Miss Lane]

Who's got the most votes besides wooper?

You should vote for Vorkuta with us.

[Miss Lane]

oh she's kinda hot

hey bb

[Miss Lane]

Not sure why TSE is OMGUSing so hard right now but okay.

Because he has a greater than 50% chance to flip scum.


Also, Miss Lynch, love the name change.

Thank you! I like your... hair!

[Miss Lane]

heybbmolla what keeps you from voting for Vorkuta?

[Miss Lane]

I'm so hot that when I get out of the shower the fire detector goes off.

No joke. Although it might have nothing to do with my physical attractiveness.

[Miss Lane]

I realize that's unrelated to the game thread and I apologize.

[Miss Lane]

Miss. Do you pledge fealty to me?

What do you offer that Nero Cain doesn't?

[Miss Lane]

I'm no trophy girl, I'll have you know. I'm not quite sure you can handle me.

[Miss Lane]

Miss. Do you pledge fealty to me?

What do you offer that Nero Cain doesn't?

Those who follow me have realized that rule through power is the only way. And to gain that power one needs strength and intelligence. I am looking to grow our ranks of fighters from all races and backgrounds.

With enough followers I can rule with an iron fist, that's molded by the consortium we create.

Are you implying I'm strong and intelligent? You're sounding better already.

[Miss Lane]

I'm no trophy girl, I'll have you know. I'm not quite sure you can handle me.

My 6 yo hasn't broken me yet, I think I'll take my chances with you.

Well if your six year old hasn't broken you I doubt I'll make a dent.

[Miss Lane]

Miss. Do you pledge fealty to me?

What do you offer that Nero Cain doesn't?

Those who follow me have realized that rule through power is the only way. And to gain that power one needs strength and intelligence. I am looking to grow our ranks of fighters from all races and backgrounds.

With enough followers I can rule with an iron fist, that's molded by the consortium we create.

Are you implying I'm strong and intelligent? You're sounding better already.

Have you ever heard about the reporter who was doing a story on Henry Ford when he put out the model t? The reporter keeps asking about certain parts and how they worked and Ford couldn't talk on those particulars because he didn't know about them. The reporter was baffled by this, but Ford explained that he surrounded himself with the best in each field, but he wasn't too in anything himself.

I'm putting together my Goonies right now.

You drive a hard bargain, but you can count me in. What do you need?

I'm no trophy girl, I'll have you know. I'm not quite sure you can handle me.

My 6 yo hasn't broken me yet, I think I'll take my chances with you.

Well if your six year old hasn't broken you I doubt I'll make a dent.

You can make your attempt. I'm always up for a game.

What kind of game were you thinking?

[Miss Lane]

Just in case anyone is wondering, many of the buttons on MafTiger simply don't show. Including the "Quote" button.

Please love yourself more :<

<3

[Miss Lane]

Why are people posting about whether or not they're cobble aligned?

[Miss Lane]

Like what affect does that have on the lie detector is there a legitimate cobble alignment?

[Miss Lane]

VOTE: wooper

[Miss Lane]

I'm death aligned.

I said that a long time ago.

Are town people Cobble aligned?

[Miss Lane]

is this the third game in a row you're the wrong alignment

Dude, rolling Alien just doesn't happen that often, okay? I've gone years between Alien roles before.

YOu got Alien?

I got Death

the ultimate serial killer

i myself
am already
ded

[Miss Lane]

Except I don't actually kill people. Directly. :/ I don't feel comfortable talking about it. You can kill me if you want, I'm pretty useless to you until late game anyways.

[Miss Lane]

Err.. You can try to kill me if you want.

[Miss Lane]

I'm death aligned.

I said that a long time ago.

Are town people Cobble aligned?

Umm... Did you postulate you were 3p?

What do you mean by this?

[Miss Lane]

I didn't PM myself the role on this account, but I don't think it said anything about town being Cobble aligned

[Miss Lane]

I am death aligned

[Miss Lane]

I'm allowed to paraphrase PM stuff, right?

[Miss Lane]

The flavor talks about a nearby town called "Cobble." I guess I was supposed to extrapolate that?

I win when specific people are dead in a specific way. I'd like to not talk too much more about it.

[Miss Lane]

If that's alright with you

[Miss Lane]

Of sorts.

[Miss Lane]

I'll say my username somewhat fits my role, which I realized only after I made the name (unfortunately, or I'd take credit for it).

[Miss Lane]

Pretty sure I just leave the game when my threats are eliminated. Which is part of the reason I wasn't going to try to do anything until my ability is more useful anyways, just because it's more fun this way.

[Miss Lane]

So I don't care if town wins or note -> I intend to help town.

[Miss Lane]

Bingle have I played with you before?

How do you know that I sub in with alts of myself?

[Miss Lane]

I'm pretty sure that before I had to leave for several months both my accounts were the top 1 and 2 posters
I was proud

Also please don't kill me that's SUPER boring let me play 'til end game I'll be subservient and stuff and this game was supposed to be my relax and have fun game

[Miss Lane]

I'll get rid of my people when there's less than 10 people left and then I'll leave and y'all will be all set up to win

[Miss Lane]

I am with Formerfish

[Miss Lane]

you were mine first, you hussy

Enter was with you.

You weren't that invested in Enter anyways, it was a one-way relationship.

[Miss Lane]

Also Formerfish tells me I'm smart, and that's really all I want out of life, so...

[Miss Lane]

It's a lie I'll do an awful lot just to hear.

[Miss Lane]

It's a lie I'll do an awful lot just to hear.

You're the hottest girl in this barn.

Talk dirty to me bb.

[Miss Lane]

you are super cringe btw

[Miss Lane]

Did anyone here watch Community

[Miss Lane]

Good show. I'm watching it again.

[Miss Lane]

the later seasons were kinda meh though.

loved them paintball episodes though.

Pillow fort episode is super.

"There were no rules in that first battle. You hit someone and they went down and you stopped hitting them. They call that common courtesy.
But then what if they get up? You maybe keep hitting them 'til they learn to stay down? Call that common sense."

-Shirley

[Miss Lane]

Acknowledging prod. Sorry, had two crazy busy days back to back and a good many pages behind.

Vote Vorkuta!

[Miss Lane]

Happy pizza day

[Miss Lane]

Where the fuck did that Vork wagon come from?

It's been growing. I'm worried about how quickly the drew wagon grew right there when it became evident that the Vork wagon was steadily growing.

I think the opposite. I think the Drew wagon had steam and then vork wagon came from nowhere. It could go either way I suppose.

I'm not following closely but this is how I feel.

Also think Drew defenders are kinda inconsistently sketchy - haven't seen someone other than Vork defending Vork (until now, in which i defend vork for not having seen anyone defend vork arrgghh)

Funny how making solid arguments in mafia often looks stupid because in mafia only bad arguments don't contradict themselves.

[Miss Lane]

Alright Formerfish, what are we doing today?

[Miss Lane]

First of all, after I've revealed that I'm a bit of a chaotic neutral, how do you feel about me right now? Am I still as much of an asset as I was before?

I just want someone to tell me I'm smart again. Or that they need me on their team. Or something. That felt super good.

[Miss Lane]

Why do we want TSE to vote for DrDrew? I thought we were voting for Vorkuta?

[Miss Lane]

Why do we want TSE to vote for DrDrew? I thought we were voting for Vorkuta?

Why? DD is scum. We’re voting for Drew. You must have missed a big chunk, specifically my casings

gimme a minute lemme iso u

[Miss Lane]

Why do we want TSE to vote for DrDrew? I thought we were voting for Vorkuta?

Why? DD is scum. We’re voting for Drew. You must have missed a big chunk, specifically my casings

Question for the class.

Is Flavor normally a tunnel-y player as town?

say the words you mean

tunnel doesn't mean what you think it means

unless it does in which case i'd argue i haven't seen a legitimately tunnel-y play since 2016

[Miss Lane]

ok I've seen enough

i'm currently following formerfish tho so you'll have to convince him

[Miss Lane]

formerfish we should prolly vote drew he's a good lynch today i think

[Miss Lane]

Why do we want TSE to vote for DrDrew? I thought we were voting for Vorkuta?

Why? DD is scum. We’re voting for Drew. You must have missed a big chunk, specifically my casings

gimme a minute lemme iso u

That's a super quick iso you did there.

Maybe.....you didn't do one?

nope

just saw things that i needed to see

i can quote them at you if you like

[Miss Lane]

He locked onto me as clear scum and didn't make any attempt to listen to logic that he may be wrong.

He is tunneling.

you're using mafia terminology to exaggerate and present your case as something it isn't.

that's stupid and i laugh at you

[Miss Lane]

misusing

[Miss Lane]

Why do we want TSE to vote for DrDrew? I thought we were voting for Vorkuta?

Why? DD is scum. We’re voting for Drew. You must have missed a big chunk, specifically my casings

gimme a minute lemme iso u

That's a super quick iso you did there.

Maybe.....you didn't do one?

nope

just saw things that i needed to see

i can quote them at you if you like

Yes, please do the iso now that you didn't do and provide quotes.

no i said i CAN quote them at you

but u chose to be rude so i won't

u think i need to prove myself to u?

i am teh fastest reader in my room right now and before you say that doesn't mean anything

i'm a pretty fast reader

and you did some stuff that was super scummy

also i didn't have to get far into his iso to remember your slip from the other day and that was funny

[Miss Lane]

also it SUPER amuses me that if you google "define tunnel mafiascum" the number one search result is my rant in fire on the mountain about people misusing the term

[Miss Lane]

people use tunnel to mean confbias now and it's so stupid
if you mean confbias just say confbias

[Miss Lane]

FL isn't even confbiasing, btw, so you're argument is still about as valid as my father's pride in me

it isn't

[Miss Lane]

So.....you admit to not doing the iso and faking that you had quotes that made me look scummy.

Gotcha.....sorry if that was rude.

no
i 100% did the iso

i didn't have to read anything i just skimmed

[Miss Lane]

like

i loooked

at his ISO

but i didn't

READ
THE
WHOLE THING

maybe that was kinda misusing term? i might not be up to date on the connotation of ISO and if so i need to fix that stat

[Miss Lane]

what

no i was talking about FL

[Miss Lane]

Why do we want TSE to vote for DrDrew? I thought we were voting for Vorkuta?

Why? DD is scum. We’re voting for Drew. You must have missed a big chunk, specifically my casings

Question for the class.

Is Flavor normally a tunnel-y player as town?

say the words you mean

tunnel doesn't mean what you think it means

unless it does in which case i'd argue i haven't seen a legitimately tunnel-y play since 2016

[Miss Lane]

wait oops i quoted wrong thing

Why do we want TSE to vote for DrDrew? I thought we were voting for Vorkuta?

Why? DD is scum. We’re voting for Drew. You must have missed a big chunk, specifically my casings

gimme a minute lemme iso u

there we go

[Miss Lane]

Ah, ok that I misread.

But still, the quotes.....post em.

why?

[Miss Lane]

you have

no clue

what is going

tse

and it's funny

[Miss Lane]

Well howdy y'all.

@mod

recommend sending day start PMs

[Miss Lane]

Never mind, they were sent, it just went to my main instead of my alt. Thanks mod!

[Miss Lane]

I support TSE lynch but mostly because he was annoying at end of day and it would make me happy if he flipped scum.

[Miss Lane]

Oh, Formerfish is gone, I have no guidance. Darn.

[Miss Lane]

I really wish they wouldn't have killed formerfish. I didn't know chemist but that probably means he was a pretty big asset. Why couldn't they have killed someone else?

[Miss Lane]

Hey TSE, do you want to tell us why your execution had spider flavour?

it would make me happy if he flipped scum.

ditto

i'll guide you

Well howdy partner. Sounds like a good time to me, you just toss them there clay pigeons up and they'll be dust before you know it.

[Miss Lane]

I really wish they wouldn't have killed formerfish. I didn't know chemist but that probably means he was a pretty big asset. Why couldn't they have killed someone else?

both were killed by scum?

I don't know. I assume so.

[Miss Lane]

Slight V/LA

Recovering from a car accident yesterday, mostly just sore and drugged up. Will keep up as best I can.

My birthday party is important but it's not THAT important.

get better tho

[Miss Lane]

VOTE: True Soul Energy!!

[Miss Lane]

playing on mafTiger is especially interesting because votes aren't bolded or anything. Seriously every vote looks like this

VOTE:

lol

[Miss Lane]

I like you. You should play more mafia.

[Miss Lane]

You.

[Miss Lane]

Thanks! I used to play a lot but this is legit my first game in 6+ years.

Oh!

I played a bit back in 2014, 2016, and far more recently, now, so I think I just missed you.

That's really cool, though, I imagine you played a lot with Nachomomma and Thor? They were IC's for some of my first games on site.

Also, how was your break, and why did you come back?

[Miss Lane]

I'm not gonna lie, based on game size I was really rather hoping that a lot more people would have died last night.

@Xof - I'm pretty sure cult only recruits, but I'm going to be honest I was nowhere near as diligent reading the ping pong paddle's Q&A as I probably should have been.

[Miss Lane]

actually TSE could be scum.

the whole thing with nero is good enough for me to join on.
VOTE: TSE

that was easy

[Miss Lane]

*shrugz*

its my only slight niggle that he's voting with me in a maybe attempt to try to make me look like his buddy so eh.

you're making me nervous you should vote for him

[Miss Lane]

If the cult leader dies, cult loses right?

Does that mean all of the other players in the cult die too?

[Miss Lane]

i'm giggling to myself (and yes giggling is ok now because i'm a girl right now) thinking about a bunch of people becoming cultists likea doc and a cop and stuff and then one day the leader dies and they're like 'whelp that was stupid " and then they just go back to work like nothing happened


i have a strange sense of humor

[Miss Lane]

We should try not to out each other's alts, Nero, it's just respectful to people like Jingle that are trying to hide that they're playing under an alt account.

Like if I wanted people to know I was really Enter, I would have played this game as Enter.

[Miss Lane]

I'm gonna be honest, I only chose my avatar on my Enter account to piss off the worst and I very much intended to change it shortly after

but it's grown on me and now i feel bad because i know that it's not really good i guess but i find myself really liking it and not wanting to change it and now i feel terrible

[Miss Lane]

We should try not to out each other's alts, Nero, it's just respectful to people like Jingle that are trying to hide that they're playing under an alt account.

Like if I wanted people to know I was really Enter, I would have played this game as Enter.

Please don’t get offended for the sake of others, those people make me angry
Jingle/Bingle doesn’t care who knows he’s an alt, so don’t act like he does

The post you quoted was a joke

I ask people not to out other people as alts, and then outed Jingle's alt as well as my own.

[Miss Lane]

We should try not to out each other's alts, Nero, it's just respectful to people like Jingle that are trying to hide that they're playing under an alt account.

Like if I wanted people to know I was really Enter, I would have played this game as Enter.

Please don’t get offended for the sake of others, those people make me angry
Jingle/Bingle doesn’t care who knows he’s an alt, so don’t act like he does

he was kidding!

at least I think.

Yes!

[Miss Lane]

ok so i think the process for this game should be -> lynch TSE -> lynch the rest of the scum -> let me do my thing -> lynch the cult leader

and then if we haven't won by then we lynch the rest of the cultists

[Miss Lane]

and i think if we do that we'll win pretty quickly, we won't even have to deal with lylo or anything

[Miss Lane]

Who are the other scum, Miss Lynch?

idk

i was just gonna VOTE: Mafia Goon i don't care what they're names are i only care about their roles

[Miss Lane]

or more their alignment than their roles but you know what i mean

[Miss Lane]

i think tse didn't know what you were talking about, EP, because you used the british spelling of the word for some reason

[Miss Lane]

In America, we have plenty of flavor without you.

[Miss Lane]

In America, we have plenty of flavor without you.

I crack myself up.

[Miss Lane]

i think tse didn't know what you were talking about, EP, because you used the british spelling of the word for some reason

I'm Canadian

Oh, congratulations! That's super cool.

[Miss Lane]

now wrapped in the same white horror that grabbed her and the weapon not long before.

Actually looking back I guess I do agree. Unless there is something else that wraps things up in white stuff.

my mom when she's dressing me up as a ghost for halloween

ok i'll stop it's past my bedtime anyways

[Miss Lane]

hi EP

Hi. Why are you voting me?

b/c i think u r scum.

don't worry about me just cutting down trees with my very modern engine powered mobile device that rotates many metal linkages very quickly

[Miss Lane]

darnnit

ninja'd

oh well mine sounds cooler anyways

[Miss Lane]

hi EP

Hi. Why are you voting me?

b/c i think u r scum.

don't worry about me just cutting down trees with my very modern engine powered mobile device that rotates many metal linkages very quickly

i'm not cutting down too many trees tho, i do want some of them to block the light from the sun so the dark effect from such a phenomenon is cast on you

My mummy, when she dresses up for halloween.
(not really but lol)

lol i like it

also mine was also a not really but i said it because funny

[Miss Lane]

Goblin Slayer

[Miss Lane]

ok i'm going to bed for real now

[Miss Lane]

13 players to look at rather than 37 is way better

1 scum in 13 players is not as good as 3 scum in 37, and considering game size I bet there's more than 3 scum.

[Miss Lane]

Also based on the number of kills last night I think that there's either a very large groupscum, maybe goblins with swarming or something of the like and a serial killer like a dragon or two more reasonably sized group scums, like orcs and goblins.

[Miss Lane]

ok so i think the process for this game should be -> lynch TSE -> lynch the rest of the scum -> let me do my thing -> lynch the cult leader

and then if we haven't won by then we lynch the rest of the cultists

What is your thing? Why does this have to happen in this order?

It doesn't. That post was a tautology.

[Miss Lane]

this TSE wagon is the fastest thing I've ever seen. Idk if that's just because of game size but there's like zero resistance as far as I can see.

I doubt it, actually, if you think of the size of the game. Starting day two with not even a qu of the player base on the wagon of a very popular player n- that's only five to six players in a seventeen player game which is around the size of a typical large on day 2, or two players players on your typical seven player micro

[Miss Lane]

A third, not a quarter

[Miss Lane]

Exactly. So the argument that there's no resistance is silly.

In addition, if TSE was scum, I imagine that team would drop him like hot potatoes.

[Miss Lane]

Here's where I'm at:

I don't like anyone on the wagon with me right now.

I like Amrun maybe just a little bit more than Nero since Nero talks about how they can lynch me and I'd really prefer people didn't try to do that, besides it being a bit of a time waster it's actually relatively detrimental to me. However, I'd rather lynch sooner than later, so I'm going to follow Nero for now, I think.

VOTE: Vorkuta

[Miss Lane]

I feel uncomfortable with the whole asking other people their wincon thing, it's awful close to asking for specific wording in role PMs, especially how TSE responded.

[Miss Lane]

And I can't really full claim because I don't know what my ability is, I don't know what or who my target is, and I don't know at what threshold I find that out. It's hard to get specific while also sidestepping the wording, but as far as I understand it, once a certain number of players have died (or maybe I'm waiting for specific players to die, I'm not sure), I get an ability that I can use, a group of targets that needs to die, and once they're dead, I leave. Until then I'm somewhat harder to lynch. I also know that I have a partner, but I don't really wanna out that right now, because as far as I know they're in a similar position and we don't have a private topic or anything. I think we were put here for balance purposes so that if something went drastically wrong with the balance of the game, we would be given the order to make sure one party died enough that both teams had a chance in Lylo, but I'm really not certain.

I know that's everything on the table and you could just decide to kill me because it could turn out that I'm actually anti-town, but I'm asking that you let me stay because I'm curious and excited.

[Miss Lane]

Here's where I'm at:

I don't like anyone on the wagon with me right now.

I like Amrun maybe just a little bit more than Nero since Nero talks about how they can lynch me and I'd really prefer people didn't try to do that, besides it being a bit of a time waster it's actually relatively detrimental to me. However, I'd rather lynch sooner than later, so I'm going to follow Nero for now, I think.

VOTE: Vorkuta

[Miss Lane]

If you make it to the point in the game where there are less than 20 players, it will be because this player base has a pool of patience larger than the world's supply of water.

[Miss Lane]

If someone came up right now with a cop guilty on another player in the game and the ping pong paddle immediately confirmed you were town in the next post, it still wouldn't surprise me if you were lynched first, TSE.

[Miss Lane]

If you make it to the point in the game where there are less than 20 players, it will be because this player base has a pool of patience larger than the world's supply of water.

Do you not like my Playstyle?

That's a very polite way to put it.

[Miss Lane]

If you make it to the point in the game where there are less than 20 players, it will be because this player base has a pool of patience larger than the world's supply of water.

Do you not like my Playstyle?

That's a very polite way to put it.

Do you hate my Playstyle to the point you want to smash my head into a brick wall?

No. I like people in general. There are very few people I don't like. I think I like you. There is no one in the world that I want to smash any part of their body into a brick wall, at least not right now. Sometimes after watching videos of the way some people are cruel to others I get feelings like that, but that's beside the point.

I hate the way you play. I think reality and your belief in your ability to play mafia are out of touch. I think you make a lot of spot assumptions based on minute details that, while they do play a part in the bigger picture, have nowhere near the meaning that you seem to draw from them. I think you think that you understand people and the way they will interact and react to you and you're just very very wrong, or you don't account for it at all. I think you expect that the way you play commands some form of respect (at least in the sense that you think it makes people want to follow you) when in reality it has the opposite effect. I think your high opinion of yourself causes you to be loud and to talk a lot more than you think or play. I think you're a bit of a perfectionist and that causes you to give up easily. I think you overreact a lot to a lot of things, and you grasp desperately for control and the way you do so is often bad - by threatening the moderator or other players with powers that either you don't have or simply don't have an effect on the person you're threatening - they harm you more than they harm them. I think you aren't anywhere near as good at mafia as you think you are, I don't think your reads are as good as you think they are, and I think that you place too much weight on the ability of one player to read another when you balance how to weigh a mafia player's ability to affect a game. I think it's quite possible you could be a good player in time, but before that happens you need to calm down, and spend more time thinking, observing, and learning than talking. And I know that's hard to do. It's something a lot of people don't do, and it's not necessary - you don't have to be a good mafia player for people to enjoy playing with you, and you don't have to put loads of time and effort into mafia to have fun with it. But if you want to be the best like you claim to be, I think you need to put in the work to get there.

[Miss Lane]

I'm sorry I rambled a bit there. I had many thoughts along the way and I lost them somewhere in the sea of words. I hope I didn't offend you, I think it would be good to have a couple more tryhards on mafiascum.net and I'd like it if you got better, but a lot of your play right now is pretty bad by consensus right now, so you're gonna have to at the very least relax a little bit before you get to the point where it's fun and easy to play with you.

[Miss Lane]

you don't have to be a good mafia player for people to enjoy playing with you, and you don't have to put loads of time and effort into mafia to have fun with it

: 0

Alright so we all learn things from time to time. So I learned something new, you don't have to rub it in, duck.

[Miss Lane]

you don't have to be a good mafia player for people to enjoy playing with you, and you don't have to put loads of time and effort into mafia to have fun with it

: 0

Alright so we all learn things from time to time. So I learned something new, you don't have to rub it in, duck.

Tone is not something you can convey through text. I'm counting on my relationship with you to do that instead, because I'm terrible at smileys or whatever it is you use these days.

[Miss Lane]

i wasn't trying to shade you at all!! i liked that take ):

I'm sorry -- I didn't mean that in a mean way

I wish there was some way that I could post a picture or maybe even a short series of moving pictures that conveyed my feelings and tone in response

And if there was such a way to do such a thing, I wish that I was good at using it.

[Miss Lane]

whatever i can't use words right now

there was an invisible winky smiley face thing after that post, wooper

[Miss Lane]

Wait
Virgo is Titus?

Titus. It's Eagle.

Remember YCBA IV?

I slipped and I'm not proud of it. I usually don't make mistakes like this please forgive me.

[Miss Lane]

The execution ability was a one shot

[Miss Lane]

I was doing the same thing but with execute to spot check myself, and now I'm starting to doubt. I thought for sure someone was saying its one shot, maybe not, though.

@TSE can you use your ability multiple times or is it a one shot?

[Miss Lane]

UT is intentionally obtuse, I think. I've never played with them before but I've also never played with anyone that I can even compare them to in how abrupt their posts are. Every time they say something it's like hitting your head on a pipe you'd never noticed was there before -- their posts regularly knock me off balance. I imagine that it's probably purposeful. Is that scum indicative? Quite possibly. I don't know past that. I need to go to work but I'll look at them more when I get back.

[Miss Lane]

you're just confirming you're not reading the game

we're meant to be reading the game?

only the two or three pages around the time when you check in

i'm sure they don't want you to read every page

[Miss Lane]

Also, hello Pine!

How are you?

How do you feel about the Triumvirate?

[Miss Lane]

I'll just save you some time and histrionics actually

Pine hadn't been around so I said "ayo Pino you got a dayvig" to which he responded "no who should I vig" and I posted the list of people who have clogged the thread with needless self-centred bullshit. you saw your name on a list, panicked, and pretended that it was a serious request to lynch you.

moving on. I got scummy vibes from the post Titus made from that alt account. I felt it was unnecessarily hedge-y in a way that scum usually does when they feel like they need to fake content but don't have real reads. that's my reason for voting it and I haven't seen anything that makes me want to move.

If you piss people of, they start producing content.

For those interested, this is called a Cobra Effect, for those interested.

[Miss Lane]

I'll just save you some time and histrionics actually

Pine hadn't been around so I said "ayo Pino you got a dayvig" to which he responded "no who should I vig" and I posted the list of people who have clogged the thread with needless self-centred bullshit. you saw your name on a list, panicked, and pretended that it was a serious request to lynch you.

moving on. I got scummy vibes from the post Titus made from that alt account. I felt it was unnecessarily hedge-y in a way that scum usually does when they feel like they need to fake content but don't have real reads. that's my reason for voting it and I haven't seen anything that makes me want to move.

If you piss people of, they start producing content.

For those interested, this is called a Cobra Effect, for those interested.

And this is called forgetting what you wrote halfway through the sentence.

[Miss Lane]

I'll just save you some time and histrionics actually

Pine hadn't been around so I said "ayo Pino you got a dayvig" to which he responded "no who should I vig" and I posted the list of people who have clogged the thread with needless self-centred bullshit. you saw your name on a list, panicked, and pretended that it was a serious request to lynch you.

moving on. I got scummy vibes from the post Titus made from that alt account. I felt it was unnecessarily hedge-y in a way that scum usually does when they feel like they need to fake content but don't have real reads. that's my reason for voting it and I haven't seen anything that makes me want to move.

If you piss people of, they start producing content.

For those interested, this is called a Cobra Effect, for those interested.

...did you read the article you linked?

Yes. What are you trying to get at?

[Miss Lane]

I'm doing alright, I've been far less productive than I should have been. How have you been?

[Miss Lane]

I'm sorry. Is there anything I can do to make it better?

[Miss Lane]

Do you want to talk about it more?

[Miss Lane]

Do you wanna just go shoot wamp rats with me?

[Miss Lane]

alright

just watch out for those sand people they're a nasty sort

[Miss Lane]

VOTE: TSE

I don't care for the AtE, rapid position swaps and not reading.

Titus, I love you, darling, and I’m so sad you pulled scum.

I love you too and I'm sad you're pushing this wrong angle. Time and TSE's flip will tell me more about your alignment and motivations.

Ohh shit maybe Titus is scum.

I had the same thought at this but I didn't wanna say anything cuz I was scared it was just me.

[Miss Lane]

This is why when I'm in a game on my apt accounts I only view and post in the game from that account

[Miss Lane]

No, I'm talking about the one where Elsa convinced Dunnstral to claim he was a friendly neighbor in the thread and then killed him.

[Miss Lane]

VOTE: Titus

For Klingoncelt

[Miss Lane]

y did you get off vork?

1. I personally think Titus is likely to flip scum and it's not based on me sheeping someone
2. I don't want to be the person who makes two wagons equally viable

[Miss Lane]

VOTE: elephants

this is irrelephant

[Miss Lane]

What happened to him?

Every post he made was so mild-mannered, he was very much like something smart and dannflor in that way, actually. err. I don't know if mild-mannered is the right word for something smart, but I hope you get the gist of it?

[Miss Lane]

Did the result say who the mafia was?

Like, are they goblins, or...?

[Miss Lane]

I still feel the most comfortable with a Titus lynch.

[Miss Lane]

but Vork is the scums most powerful pr-prob

Why is that?

[Miss Lane]

To be honest I think the resistance correlates to a general lack of solid reason to push him.

[Miss Lane]

this is going to be a very

very















very

long game.

[Miss Lane]

we've managed to take down three out of the 40 players in this game

and are now so stressed about lynching scum that we will probably take another three or four months to finish this game

anyone remember no deadlines?

I remember no deadlines.

please can we not do no deadlines again.

[Miss Lane]

i wasn't even there for the rough part of no deadlines.


c'mon let's just get a lynch and move from there

i'm ok with pretty much any of the top contenders. shoot, even flavor leaf or cephrir are good lynches cuz the one sorts the other (but fl is probably better because he sorts cephrir, where if ceph flips, fl will just say he's lying and probably get away with it cuz of that charming smile of his)

[Miss Lane]

we've managed to take down three out of the 40 players in this game

and are now so stressed about lynching scum that we will probably take another three or four months to finish this game

anyone remember no deadlines?

I remember no deadlines.

please can we not do no deadlines again.

Who would you like lynched, my Misunderstood Iconic Soul Sister, aka MISS.

Titus actually looks kinda scummy to me, but TBH I just want the day over with, or working towards a conclusion and not away from one

[Miss Lane]

Putting cephrir on the table moved us away from consensus and more towards chaos and i really wish you had waited at least one more day

[Miss Lane]

menalque was weird about the whole cephrir thing

menalque's usually pretty weird though, and i think it's weird in a cool but awkward way

like the guy who plays the main character in brooklyn 99

that's probably just me being influenced by his avatar that i know isn't the character i mentioned but sure darn does make me think of him


that said i don't want to lynch menalque right now because gaining momentum for one of the wagons that isn't one of the big three is gonna be kinda difficult and i really wanna believe in it if i'm gonna push it all the way through

[Miss Lane]

we've managed to take down three out of the 40 players in this game

and are now so stressed about lynching scum that we will probably take another three or four months to finish this game

anyone remember no deadlines?

I remember no deadlines.

please can we not do no deadlines again.

Ok?

You do know that my ability can make day go by faster right?
It will only require the top wagon to have half votes to lynch.
So as long as we can get 10 votes. I can lynch.

i'm aware of this and it's not relevant to the conversation, so i'm not sure why you bring it up

[Miss Lane]

menalque was weird about the whole cephrir thing

menalque's usually pretty weird though, and i think it's weird in a cool but awkward way

like the guy who plays the main character in brooklyn 99

that's probably just me being influenced by his avatar that i know isn't the character i mentioned but sure darn does make me think of him


that said i don't want to lynch menalque right now because gaining momentum for one of the wagons that isn't one of the big three is gonna be kinda difficult and i really wanna believe in it if i'm gonna push it all the way through

Wasn’t Element at 0 votes about a day ago?
It doesn’t seem to be that difficult.

It is easy to get lynch bait wagons up

It is very hard to get a late wagon up on decent scum as long as they don't slip up and as long as they don't have one of those play styles that makes people dislike they way they play or one of the play styles that just always looks kinda scummy

[Miss Lane]

menalque was weird about the whole cephrir thing

menalque's usually pretty weird though, and i think it's weird in a cool but awkward way

like the guy who plays the main character in brooklyn 99

that's probably just me being influenced by his avatar that i know isn't the character i mentioned but sure darn does make me think of him


that said i don't want to lynch menalque right now because gaining momentum for one of the wagons that isn't one of the big three is gonna be kinda difficult and i really wanna believe in it if i'm gonna push it all the way through

i didn't mindmeld with you FL?

[Miss Lane]

Spoiler: quotes

I don't think Mena is scum.

Even if he is, there's no way you're getting a Mena lynch through today.

He’s essentially a top wagon now

Something to note FL is that both EP AND Enter are hesitating on voting Mena.
Makes me think their both scum buddies with Mena. Or at least 1 of them.
TBH I think Scum is probably going to kill you tonight and attempt to miss lynch me tomorrow.
So I’ll do this now so scum can go fuck themselves.

TP ON FL TONIGHT! ATTENTION! ALL TP ON FL

I’ll try and put this in every post I make.

Fuck you mafia, you have to Night Kill me now assholes if you want to get to FL.

menalque was weird about the whole cephrir thing

menalque's usually pretty weird though, and i think it's weird in a cool but awkward way

like the guy who plays the main character in brooklyn 99

that's probably just me being influenced by his avatar that i know isn't the character i mentioned but sure darn does make me think of him


that said i don't want to lynch menalque right now because gaining momentum for one of the wagons that isn't one of the big three is gonna be kinda difficult and i really wanna believe in it if i'm gonna push it all the way through

Wasn’t Element at 0 votes about a day ago?
It doesn’t seem to be that difficult.

It is easy to get lynch bait wagons up

It is very hard to get a late wagon up on decent scum as long as they don't slip up and as long as they don't have one of those play styles that makes people dislike they way they play or one of the play styles that just always looks kinda scummy

That’s Gay TBH.
I legit found 2 strong players that flipped scum on Day 1 in a game and got lynched Day 1 for defending the Neighbourhood who both of them were Town.
And I was pushed by the innocent child.
Like WTF.
Reason why I’d prefer people to take lynches like Mena.
It can help solve allot.

am i scum avoiding lynching mena or am i making a reasonable argument that you're trying to convince me away from? because it's not both. make up your mind

[Miss Lane]

menalque was weird about the whole cephrir thing

menalque's usually pretty weird though, and i think it's weird in a cool but awkward way

like the guy who plays the main character in brooklyn 99

that's probably just me being influenced by his avatar that i know isn't the character i mentioned but sure darn does make me think of him


that said i don't want to lynch menalque right now because gaining momentum for one of the wagons that isn't one of the big three is gonna be kinda difficult and i really wanna believe in it if i'm gonna push it all the way through

i didn't mindmeld with you FL?

We had a different perspective on the same thought, if that makes sense?

I like that you thought that, though, because I’m not actually super confident with my Menalque read, I want some pressure there to find out more, though.

I scum read him hard, but I’m open to change my mind on it

It does make sense.

How about this, if you get a wagon on Ceph or Mena that is within two votes of Titus in the next 24 hours, I'll switch to that wagon and push it through.

Otherwise you join me on Titus, and then we look at Ceph and Mena tomorrow when we can build from the ground up

[Miss Lane]

I already said I town read you Miss.

I was talking to TSE.

Yes, I'm an outed alt. I don't think you've played with any of my mains before, however, other than being in No Deadlines together for a very short period of time (I'm most famously Enter and Extrapolated Eagle)

[Miss Lane]

How’s it not both?
In both your refusing to vote Mena.
If your reason is because “Good Player” then LOL.
Drew is good too but he got lynched so LOL.

Your argument is that I'm scum because I'm avoiding Mena, which only makes sense if my reason for avoiding voting Mena is just a load of crap
But you're also responding to me as if you seem to think my argument is reasonable and a valid reason for not wanting to vote Mena

[Miss Lane]

I already said I town read you Miss.

I was talking to TSE.

Yes, I'm an outed alt. I don't think you've played with any of my mains before, however, other than being in No Deadlines together for a very short period of time (I'm most famously Enter and Extrapolated Eagle)

Lean Scum.
Originally I Town Read you. But it shifted throughout your recent interactions and posts.

I don't care what your read of me is, I'm trying to get you to see that you contradict your read of me in back to back posts because you strongly overreact to individual posts and completely forget the bigger picture constantly, and I'm hoping that if I continue to point this out, you'll calm down a bit and be a little bit less of a pain to play with.

[Miss Lane]

@FL @TSE @Miss

Mena in this game is exactly like his town game in the Purge. He didn't have the same light-hearted tone when he was scum in the Pokemon Ruby game.

Purge game for reference:
viewtopic.php?p=11142359&user_select%5B ... #p11142359

Tonereads are too dependent on external consequences such as mood of the player and real life things happening for me to try to use it to meta someone I don't know, especially trying to tone read someone for a game I wasn't in and especially based off a single scum game vs like three town games

and even if it was, I'm not going to iso a player in multiple different OTHER GAMES in a game that's already only day 2 with 37 players still alive

[Miss Lane]

also I wouldn't describe mena's play this game as lighthearted

[Miss Lane]

also I wouldn't describe mena's play this game as lighthearted

His gov campaign, cheese talks, and political talks were all light-hearted. There's probably more, but those are the first that came to mind..

let me rephrase

i wouldn't describe mena's

play

(as in contribution to the game in a meaningful way) this game as lighthearted

[Miss Lane]

I don't think the way he responded to the Cephrir situation is really light hearted.

The rest of this game doesn't really matter because the rest of this game Mena hasn't had to actually really participate in anything meaningful. Arguably this game is still in a pretty lax state right now.

[Miss Lane]

Also - your meta read on Menalque looks pretty surface from here, and that's when meta reads are at their worst. Trying to predict a player's alignment based on a surface level meta read (which is, I think, what most people do) is like trying to predict how a disease will progress in a patient based solely on the symptoms. As long as the circumstances are similar, you're likely to get more predictable results, but if you get similar symptoms in very different patients under very different circumstances, it means almost nothing. You have to understand the disease before you can predict the symptoms. From my point of view it looks like most meta reads are bad due to this phenomenon; Players notice comparable symptoms and diagnose the same disease without understanding the person or the consequence. This game in particular is very bad for trying to apply meta reads from other players to, because all of the circumstances are so different - it's role madness with a cult (which is rare) and it has 40 players (which is also very rare). In addition, all of the players each person is playing with will add to the changing environment.

The only meta reads you should really trust are meta reads on players that you know and are friends with. You feel like you understand them as a person and you know WHY they do the things they do. If you just notice that they do the same thing twice, it could be an item that's not really alignment indicative at all.

[Miss Lane]

I specifically do not like the way Mena responded to FL's push on Cephrir. It seemed over the top and unnecessarily concerned with squashing suspicion before it grew much at all.

[Miss Lane]

We all know Town is Blue and Mafia is Red.
LMAO.
Only on other sites is Town Green.

This is not exclusively true for this site. Role PMs very much change color depending on who the moderator is on this site, which is why asking for information that some players might not know (i.e. color of the role PM) is not ok.

Stop.

[Miss Lane]

TSE:

I already said I town read you Miss.

I was talking to TSE.

Yes, I'm an outed alt. I don't think you've played with any of my mains before, however, other than being in No Deadlines together for a very short period of time (I'm most famously Enter and Extrapolated Eagle)

Like yeah... it was obvious

I know it was, but he asked, so I answered.

[Miss Lane]

@EP - is it possible Menalque would be able to pick up on the fact that you would be aware of him and play accordingly in regards to you?

He's good enough to do so, but I don't think he would for two reasons:
1. I haven't mentioned town!Mena being light-hearted before.
2. I don't usually play very aggressive with pushes. Even if he caught on to me knowing his playstyle, I'm not sure how worthwhile it would be for him to play around me as opposed to other players.

This is fair enough. Do you feel like you know Mena pretty well as a person?

[Miss Lane]

@EP - is it possible Menalque would be able to pick up on the fact that you would be aware of him and play accordingly in regards to you?

He's good enough to do so, but I don't think he would for two reasons:
1. I haven't mentioned town!Mena being light-hearted before.
2. I don't usually play very aggressive with pushes. Even if he caught on to me knowing his playstyle, I'm not sure how worthwhile it would be for him to play around me as opposed to other players.

This is fair enough. Do you feel like you know Mena pretty well as a person?

This is a tricky question bcz I've played with him, FF, and maybe RC the most in all of my games, but I haven't played that many games.

From a relative standpoint, I know them the best compared to others, but I'm not sure how well that holds up compared to others who've played dozens of games with one another.

I'm writing this down as a "no," unless you tell me you feel like you understand why he plays the way he does, or you feel confident enough in your read of him to stake something pretty major on it.

[Miss Lane]

I know Menalque as a person... and I have no idea how he plays, so I'm not sure the "know them as a person" point is necessary or sufficient

Thanks for your input.

[Miss Lane]

Please, for the love of all that is holy, wagon SOMETHING until it is dead.

Anything, at this point.

JFC.

<3

I know Menalque as a person... and I have no idea how he plays, so I'm not sure the "know them as a person" point is necessary or sufficient

Perhaps I wasn't clear.

I was saying that of all the people I know on Mafiascum, I know Mena, RC, and FF the best.... but since I've only played around 3 or so games with each, that doesn't translate to me actually knowing them well from an objective standpoint.

I think I understood what you meant.

The reason I put you down as "no," is that I'm looking for confidence in your ability to read him off of knowing why he does what he does. I know my boss, but I don't know him in the way that I need to to be able to read him.

[Miss Lane]

We need a vote count, TBH

[Miss Lane]

I know Menalque as a person... and I have no idea how he plays, so I'm not sure the "know them as a person" point is necessary or sufficient

Thanks for your input.

This was mean, I'm sorry.

I don't know why you keep commenting on things that weren't meant for you, and in this post you seem to not understand the way I mean the words that I do and on top of that it's not meant for you, so fmpov you're effectively just making chaos and it's frustrating.

[Miss Lane]

This is Kise again.

This is some serious Mandela Effect. No, he never claimed 1 shot.

Outside of chen, I don't even remember who said al that but it'd be hilarious if that was something mentioned in the scum HQ that leaked over in the GT.

I don't know how to help right now. Will have a week's worth of free time starting Sunday due to using PTO. Been reading every 3-4 pages to get a summary of the good shits...Shit is just aite

Is FL's guilty a gambit?

Enter I think but I like this take.

What about me?

[Miss Lane]

VOTE: TSE

[Miss Lane]

I think TSE is much more likely town than scum. I might (and in fact have in the past) act the same way if people treated me like this.
It is not at all unusual to not hammer someone you think is town, when there is time and opportunity to push scum instead.

Between Elements and Vorkuta, I think Vorkuta is more likely to be scum. Either one would be acceptable.

VOTE: Vorkuta

Pedit: I could be wrong but think I read that kill flavor is indicative in this game. It's a weeks-old memory of something that wasn't important to memorize.

Titus

[Miss Lane]

VOTE: Elements

Because I don't think we're gonna get 19 players here to lynch TSE

We've already gotten to 13. What a defeationist.

[Miss Lane]

VOTE: Elements

Because I don't think we're gonna get 19 players here to lynch TSE

We've already gotten to 13. What a defeationist.

[Miss Lane]

Much better than Vorkuta

[Miss Lane]

VOTE: TSE

I don't care for the AtE, rapid position swaps and not reading.

Titus, I love you, darling, and I’m so sad you pulled scum.

I love you too and I'm sad you're pushing this wrong angle. Time and TSE's flip will tell me more about your alignment and motivations.

This post specifically is terrible

[Miss Lane]

I might put more effort in later.

[Miss Lane]

Elements shouldn't claim

[Miss Lane]

Titus or TSE should be the lynch today

[Miss Lane]

if the reason for the TSE wagon is b/c he wouldn't hammer elements why was there a switch to TSE in the first place?

This is the fact that TSE couldn't execute b/c Amrun had unvoted and Elements was @ 11 votes.


In fairness, Elements is taking way to long to claim.

Because at least one of Mena, Cephrir or Amrun is scum.
They all voted me within seconds of each other.

This is an associative tell that isn't even an associative tell in a 40 player game. The likelihood is that all three of them found you scummy for the same post or such, and even if it was an associative indication of scum, logic would indicate that at least two of them are scum, not only one, since the tell is based off the reasoning that they coordinated it. So the part where you say "at least one of" doesn't make sense. On top of that, why would they coordinate voting you if it doesn't lead to your lynch? And even if they were doing it and it lead to your lynch, why draw all that attention to themselves when none of them are on the line for a lynch? why not push Titus or Vorkuta since they're both also large wagons that have been around for a while? So it doesn't work unless you think Vorkuta and Titus are also scum. So the associative tell isn't even a tell of scum even in the scenario where you view it in the worst possible light.

[Miss Lane]

The fair Elven woman stumbled backward, falling to her backside with hands in the air. She screamed. The behemoth in black raised its sword and took a surprise glob of mud to the face. A Grippli man sprang into action with a leap between the monstrous swordsman and the fire-haired girl.

"

No such thing will happen on dis day,

"

he warned while turning to look over his shoulder.

"

Get out while you still can, Elf. I'll take it from he--

"

The dark sword plunged into his chest. She shrieked and stumbled further backward at the sight of such a thing before finally fleeing. The heavily-armored brute pulled the frogman into his blade even more, the expressionless face draining of color as the black knight wiped the mud from its helmet.

"

Orcus accepts your honorable contribution.

"

...

i]Chemist1422 was sacrificed to Orcus![/i] They were

"The Webfoot" Gek:

Cobble-Aligned Bodyguard

[Miss Lane]

ninja'd

[Miss Lane]

I don’t get the TSE scum reads, tbh. UT made some good points, but for the most point, I think it’s personality

You owe me a Titus vote per our deal.

[Miss Lane]

VOTE: Titus

[Miss Lane]

Are we actually considering leaving a non-leasable execute ability in the game which is also at best independently scummy and at worst actual scum

We have multiple good places to lynch today and plenty of days left. Unless you're directly arguing AGAINST titus (which as far as I can see, you're not) vote titus and we'll take care of TSE tomorrow. Otherwise it looks like you're just defending her indirectly and depending on her flip that might not look all too good on you.

[Miss Lane]

I'm not saying pushing your own wagon is bad.

I don't personally care too much which one we lynch between Titus and TSE, but with slightly over 3 days left before night, pushing your own wagon is distracting and detracts from consensus. If people were moving towards TSE I'd be making the same argument but in that direction instead.

The time to push TSE because he was an unleashed executioner ability was at the beginning of the day anyways, since he's had it since yesterday.

[Miss Lane]

Gonna mention again that if we don’t lynch tse today we’re literally saying that we’re fine with having a non-leashable executioner running around. Ceph may be buddying me but his point about b having faith in town killing roles is good after last night

I'm not pushing Titus with any sense of game day urgency, only real life day. Between the two, I really don't care.

But Menalque is pushing TSE with a lot of game day urgency, as if leaving him alive for one more day is really going to hurt everything, and teh fact that he's only started really pushing it like this now is what makes it even worse.

[Miss Lane]

"sacrificed to Orcus!" sounds like a sk/2nd scum team kill over him protecting anyone but he did flip BG so I understand why you guys think that.

Per the flavour, Chemist jumped in front of the red-haired elf. I'm fairly certain that means the Orcus-aligned SK/scum targeted the red-haired elf but the kill was intercepted by BG!Chemist.

Would it be a good idea for the red haired elf to flavour claim do we think?

Also this is a bad idea.

[Miss Lane]

The wagon needed to lynch him today is larger than the wagon needed to lynch him tomorrow.

[Miss Lane]

So I mean, this, plus the way his wagon became very difficult right after it became viable

His wagon was remarkably easy at the beginning of the day until you said "wait are we sure we want to kill teh guy with the execute ability?"

"resistance" arguments are rarely arguments at all, just complaints taht it's too ahrd to lynch someone you wanna lynch

[Miss Lane]

Elements isn't the kill today.