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Hey all, I hope all is well.
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I retract my all, in favor of all who are not Judiciarily Powered.In post 366, 50 Judge Powers wrote:
This is the scummiest/lamest entrance in this game so far.In post 329, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Hey all, I hope all is well.
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What the hell is that VC?
Why is it so varied?
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Look at this galoombaIn post 842, Quick wrote:VOTE: Jake the Wolfie
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No, No I cannot die.In post 2101, Quick wrote:All these people can die...
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I will admit, you have said something I have never heard before.In post 2253, Creature wrote:
Are you from Jake and the Never Land Pirates?In post 329, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Hey all, I hope all is well.
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After Voted is done being Voted.In post 2429, Flavor Leaf wrote:Y’all ready for me to takeover yet or nah?Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Infected players are not mafia. They are infected.In post 2452, Miss Lane wrote:i imagine infected players can factional kill or (inclusive) spread the infection further sine town wincon isn't just "kill the original three scum"
i don't think there's a situation where you can get the original three scum dead and in doing so simultaneously lose control of town via number of players, although i could be looking into this too much
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I hope I don't Miss Lynch you.
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You should find it. It'll be Quick.In post 2717, Quick wrote:
Yes. I would say so.In post 2716, Hoctac wrote:Dave is scum?
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It could also be that infected don't know shitIn post 2879, OkaPoka wrote:no i kinda just want infected to out so we can understand how much infected knows
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Also, my wincon implies that Mafia are not the infected. I hypothesize that Non-Mafia get infected, but don't autojoin the mafia, because that would be fucking stupid.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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They might not even know they are infected.In post 2892, OkaPoka wrote:i mean if infected dont know anything thats pretty valuable knowledge for town to have
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Consider this:In post 2896, OkaPoka wrote:not knowing your alignment changed and therefore your wincon is a clear violation of:
and there are no secret win conditions, false roles, or anything of that nature.
My hypothetical wincon is to kill all Cultist and their vessels.
Cultist may choose to make someone a vessel at night. This fails if they are not town.
Vessels keep their previous wincon, but now must also kill themselves in order to win.
Vessels have no idea they are a vessel.
Does this mean any vessel's wincon has been changed?
Does this mean any town's wincon changes?
Does this mean any cultist's wincon changes?
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U scum lolIn post 3053, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
I haven’t been paying much attention to this so no.In post 3051, Hoctac wrote:TSE, got any reads yet? And don't you dare get the WHEEL in
I don’t got any.
But I’ll tell you something.
If your town, I will know. I will know your Misguided about reading my slot scum when I’m Town.
If your Scum, I will know. And I’ll make sure everyone else knows it to.
But as for right now.
I’m going to head to sleep.
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Well I mean if they out because they're about to get lynched.In post 3082, Aristophanes wrote:
Kinda hard if they don't out themselves...In post 3081, Jake The Wolfie wrote:If infected don't out ASAP, we lynch them, yeah?Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Bullshit. I asked the mod and they said no comment.In post 3087, Voted wrote:
I asked the mod. He said so.In post 3078, Aristophanes wrote:We are assuming players know they are infected on the night they get the virus.
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U scum because I said so lolIn post 3093, davesaz wrote:
If you would only add a "because clause" to this you might achieve having a useful thought in the game.In post 3071, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
U scum lolIn post 3053, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
I haven’t been paying much attention to this so no.In post 3051, Hoctac wrote:TSE, got any reads yet? And don't you dare get the WHEEL in
I don’t got any.
But I’ll tell you something.
If your town, I will know. I will know your Misguided about reading my slot scum when I’m Town.
If your Scum, I will know. And I’ll make sure everyone else knows it to.
But as for right now.
I’m going to head to sleep.
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I mean, if you change your terminal goal to starve, then you've made life easier. No one wants to do that because you can't just easily change terminal goals.In post 3107, Hoctac wrote:
Since if you're cured, your alignment becomes town again. And town are obviously going to win this game because they have the likes of me, Jake the Wolfie, 5G, and Saudade on their side.In post 3103, Voted wrote:
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Please elaborate.In post 3312, mastina wrote:
Sure can! It's due to being autistic, and feeling a compulsion to convey the concepts in my brain to perfect clarity. To put that in different words, I explain things as my first language being "concepts", and every time I type something, I am doing my best to 'translate' the concepts in my mind, into English words.In post 3311, OkaPoka wrote:mastina can you elaborate on why you like to elaborate so much
But things get Lost In Translation, because you can never perfectly translate things from one language to another, so some of the nuances, finer points, specifics, and so on and so forth from the original thought as it existed in conceptual form, are lost when I translate it into word form. And this 'corrupted data', so to speak, is something I strive to then try and recover. Sometimes successfully, often times not. Which is where the elaboration comes from.
That, plus on a different note--this is obviously mixed in a little bit with some Narcissism (or a concept close thereto; someone once linked to a concept not called Narcissism but which is a close cousin thereof and at the time they did I actually went "hey, that sounds a lot like what I am like"), in that I love to share details about myself to others, but also:
I believe there is a magic to be had in talking. Just talking to others. Mafia is many many many things, but it is in part a Social Game. Social games require interacting with others, aka, socializing. You socialize by talking. So to socialize...I talk. I believe there is a magic to be had in talking, that allows people who otherwise would have no common ground, to find common ground. Something they share in personality, media they like, careers they have or have had, aspirations they possess, the like. And that the more you talk, the easier it is to find these, and also to find differences that can be discussed amicably.
That balance, between what they find in common and what they have which differs, can with enough talking, spark a magical connection and it allows people to get to know each other better, establish friendships and the like.
Plus, I am inherently a very very very lonely person and talking about myself is in many ways--a desperate attempt to reach out and connect with others, a last-ditch hope effort to connect, to satiate that loneliness and find happiness where previously there was none. Talking about myself is thus one of the ways I try to gain companionship. So I talk and talk and talk and talk.
...Also?
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I'm not lurking. Just surprise posting.In post 3301, mastina wrote:
Realtalk here by the way.In post 2983, davesaz wrote:1. Creature - meta says scum, can't remember a single useful post
4. 5G Tower - scum tinted hammer, yet another slot with no explicitly town behavior
5. Jake the Wolfie - only on number 5 and this is the 4th slot with no useful posts
6. Aristophanes - fits in the category with Auro where there are some townish things but I'd be hard pressed to remember a stance from him
10. Alchemist21 - another in the Auro/Ari category where occasionally a post will look vaguely town but darned if I can remember them
12. Flavor Leaf - I'm getting a strong "buried in RL stuff" vibe. Lacks any purpose which could mean town given that he tends to actively drive chaos when scum
13. gobbledygook - replaced who? Has he posted?
16. 50 Judge Powers - feels town by meta. I feel confident I'd recognize scum 50
The lurkers need to postuseful stuffor perish. That means taking stances on reads and backing those stances up with evidence.
I know people are like, "policy lynches are bad!!!", but like.
Legitimately.
I feel like we net 2-3 of the original scumteam by adapting the policy of "Lynch All Lurkers".
Yes, we would also hit town with that policy, and a fair number of them, too. (Notably, I agree with the take on FL and I very much want to trust dave's take on Almost50 so if you remove those two, you get the lurker pool of {Creature, 5G, Jake, Aristophanes, Alch, Turkey}, and of those the only one I would defend myself is Alchemist, so in the pool of Creature/5G/Jake/Ari/Turkey I'd expect to hit 2-3 scum.)
But I sincerely feel that a strategic implementation of Lynch All Lurkers, scummiest lurker to least scummy Lurker, would net us the original scum. At least two of them but honestly? Probably just legit all three.
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You have no hero. MwahahaIn post 3335, Quick wrote:
My Hero! Wait, is it actually Hactoc that is my hero? I forget.In post 3325, Auro wrote:Case Quick. And how come you have no comment on me, Turkey?Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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ConsumeIn post 3347, Quick wrote:
These are averages. What do you do with them?In post 3320, Auro wrote:Throw at me hard math problems. Prefer probability questions :3
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Drugs: Why not save some for laterIn post 3455, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Say no to drugs.
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I have an AGI that's 63% sure you pulled that number out of your anus.In post 3463, OkaPoka wrote:i have a machine learning algorithm that says the chances of you being scum is 63%Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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That's Fleet Admiral Obvious, 4th Wolf to the Royal Throne of Hell to you!In post 3469, Aristophanes wrote:
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S.I.R., this isn't a resteraunt. You cannot have reservations here.In post 3476, Covid 19 wrote:reserved - tomorrowShow"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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For innocuous reasons bestowed to me by the mod, I am not allowed to quote exactly what I asked the mod. Paraphrasing would not help either.In post 3527, OkaPoka wrote:Some analysis:
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Does them slipping as town mean I am scum?In post 3545, Quick wrote:
Because like I said, my reads based on my method are highly subject to change at this point. They are not rock solid reads, but generalities based on Town Utility. They don't really develop into accurate reads until late game.In post 3540, OkaPoka wrote:dude what about my case moved jake from your top townslot to your voting slot
like my cases are literally not some magical wizardry
I can keep telling you this if you keep bringing the same accusations against me if you want.
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If you want me to be modkilled and/or replaced, I'd be happy to explain. Just give me your answer.In post 3547, OkaPoka wrote:holy shit whatever someone else can pick up the pieces if they want this game has gone full bizarro and im not too good with words in this state and its going go circular
VOTE: jake
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I am interested in diving into who voted V.
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For example: were they voting V because I am their leader who will follow me mostly unhinged, or do they want V dead?Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Your case included 2 questions for me, one o whcih I answered, and the other one I don't need to answer.In post 3554, OkaPoka wrote:
see if anyone else did that id be fine but quick explicitly took the position before that jake was town and voted was the scum in the exchangeIn post 3552, Nero Cain wrote:in fairness, Jake and voted have contradictory answers so it makes it seem like one is lying, I don't feel like its some crzy logic that Quick sees this and goes "hey Jake is scum!"
ofc could abuse that as well. If Jake is town.
idk really anymore, i feel like my case was pretty self explanatory, i just wanted to put it down in words and did not expect to change people's minds, just bring more people into the conversation but like i changed someone's mind and now i don't know how to reacT???Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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The vote on V was because of boredom with the staleness from my PoV. I could have just let V's comment brush away, but because I wanted to feel somewhat useful, I threw some cards down on the table.In post 3556, OkaPoka wrote:jake why did you vote voted originally btw? was it because you felt like you saw a contradiction and now you see that you made a poor choice of words? can you give us a whiff of why the contradiction happened? wording? role?
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I learned my lesson on another site. Better to be slaughterd by the town and give nothing than to be slaughtered by the mod and gain nothing.In post 3560, OkaPoka wrote:meh. jake is giving pretty shit answers and hiding behind the threat of a modkill. i think reasonably jake can give a better hint as to what he's thinking and why certain things transpired the way they did without eating a modkill. and if its hard, sucks to suck welcome to mafia. so until he at least attempts that he should eat rope.
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They were true. I wouldn't give out false info, but I do hide true info.In post 3567, OkaPoka wrote:
so like you added the comments about "bullshit, mod says no comment" for the shits and giggles? or are they true and why you voted him?In post 3562, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
The vote on V was because of boredom with the staleness from my PoV. I could have just let V's comment brush away, but because I wanted to feel somewhat useful, I threw some cards down on the table.In post 3556, OkaPoka wrote:jake why did you vote voted originally btw? was it because you felt like you saw a contradiction and now you see that you made a poor choice of words? can you give us a whiff of why the contradiction happened? wording? role?
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A great way to make people look dumb is by gaslighting.In post 3573, Tchill13 wrote:
just playing on a lvl you cant even fathom. Heres your number (#3)In post 3568, Quick wrote:All your reasons for reads are terrible. Seriously.
go join nero and mastina in the observers room. please maintain 6 ft distance so youre idiocracy will not spread please and thank you.
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Or y'know, we could find OG scum to stop infection rates from going higher than you when construding conspiracy theories?In post 3580, OkaPoka wrote:like if you don't pm the mod about this setup and you want to continue to say mAyBe InFeCtEd DoNt KnOw, your basically saying to ircher you are a horrible game designer who doesn't care about player experience. or you could just pm him now and ask him so you can be assured the ircher is legitimately a good game designerShow"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Generally, yes.In post 3582, OkaPoka wrote:
so its true you pm'd the mod about whether the infected know that they are infected and got the response "no comment"?In post 3569, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Spoiler: Unneeded Quote extract
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Lynching me will only reveal that I am town and that you are not to be trusted.In post 3589, OkaPoka wrote:i mean pretty clearly jake is baffling with bullshit, please just lynch himShow"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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The way this posts comes off to me is super scummy. It's setting up a possibility for one scumbuddy to give another scumbuddy a pass for a bad lynch.In post 3594, Tchill13 wrote:
the way youve been playing nobody gets any flak for lynching you imo.In post 3591, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
Lynching me will only reveal that I am town and that you are not to be trusted.In post 3589, OkaPoka wrote:i mean pretty clearly jake is baffling with bullshit, please just lynch himShow"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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I'd be happy to answer every question you have when it inevitibly proves me as town, either by reason or by sword.In post 3595, OkaPoka wrote:
i made a jake case earlier and jake is hiding under the threat of a modkill to avoid actually answering me, he's being way too vague and trying to use good faith of townies not to get him modkilled as a reason not to engageIn post 3590, Tchill13 wrote:
who would be scum of the group here?In post 3520, OkaPoka wrote:Do I think there is a world where the entire scumteam is somehow Jake/Nero/Quick/TSE? no, I really doubt it. But I do think at least one of these townies are being lazy fucks and being reaffirmed by scum to push misinformation.
They're all coming off as lazy trolls atm. the TSE slot is explicitly TR'd by vecna's actions.
the other 3 could be town or scum but theres not much to push an actual scum case there.
if anything I've seen nc and quick be called obv town and jake is getting somewhat pushed.
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I did not have a plan. There is way too much going on that I am not seeing to have a plan.OkaPoka wrote:
i mean you can go ahead and try and explain your play for this entire dayphase as a start. like the actual more explicit reason why you voted voted, what you were trying to accomplish etc.In post 3597, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Spoiler: Unneeded Quote Extract
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In post 3603, Nero Cain wrote:
I don't really agree with this. Like yes its kinda scummy but I don't think its any kind of "setup". I just think he's just "telling the truth". Its a null worthless post.In post 3596, Jake The Wolfie wrote:The way this posts comes off to me is super scummy. It's setting up a possibility for one scumbuddy to give another scumbuddy a pass for a bad lynch.
As you see, I have a personal gain from showing TChill as scummy, and not to be trusted.In post 3606, Tchill13 wrote:
VOTE: jakeIn post 3589, OkaPoka wrote:i mean pretty clearly jake is baffling with bullshit, please just lynch him
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Be happy that I broke my vow of:In post 3611, OkaPoka wrote:meh, someone else can take the fight for now
its a team game and if more townies aren't willing to aggressively engage in this and instead to choose to sit idly by then this game is lost anyways
we have some good people in thread right now, but we really need this to be a 20 player game and have more people push the envelope, otherwise the people who actually exist in thread now are just going to move on and stop playing
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In post 3611, OkaPoka wrote:meh, someone else can take the fight for now
its a team game and if more townies aren't willing to aggressively engage in this and instead to choose to sit idly by then this game is lost anyways
we have some good people in thread right now, but we really need this to be a 20 player game and have more people push the envelope, otherwise the people who actually exist in thread now are just going to move on and stop playing
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NoneIn post 3625, Tchill13 wrote:@jake
whats your ari stance?
Whats your mastina stance?
your Mislynch stance?
who should be the 3 top lynches today?
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