SIR Disease Mafia - Game Over!

[Quick]

I’m good with a Hoctac lynch.

VOTE: Hoctac

Fucking right!

This could actually go through!

[Quick]

Spoiler:

[Quick]

Blair>

Auro

,

Nero

,

FL

, Rest
Auro>

TSE

,

Oka

,

Tchill

,

dave

,

FL

,

Nhadia

,

Ari

,

Nero

,

Blair

,

masitna

, Rest
Hoctac>

Voted

,

dave

,

TSE

,

Oka

,

FL

, Rest
5G Tower> ALL
Jake the Wolfie>

Ari

,

Oka

,

dave

,

Nero

,

Voted

, Rest
Aristophanes>

Jake

,

Auro

,

Gobble

,

Tchill

,

TSE

,

Voted

, Rest
TrueSoulEnergy>

Auro

,

dave

,

Gobbles

,

Hactoc

,

Ari

, Rest
Voted>

Hactoc

,

dave

,

Jake

,

Gobble

,

Ari

,

TSE

, Rest
Alchemist21>

Nero

,

Oka

,

Tchill

,

mastina

,

Voted

, Rest
Nahdia>

Nero

,

Auro

,

Oka

, Rest
Flavor Leaf>

Tchill

,

Auro

,

Hoctac

,

Blair

, Rest
gobbledygook>

mastina

,

dave

,

Nero

,

Tchill

,

Hoctac

,

Voted

,

Ari

, Rest
davesaz>

Tchill

,

Auro

,

Nero

,

Oka

,

Gobble

,

TSE

,

Voted

,

Hoctac

,

Jake

,

mastina

,

Auro

, Rest
mastina>

Gobble

,

Tchill

,

Nero

,

Auro

,

Oka

,

A50

,

dave

OkaPoka>

Jake

,

Auro

,

Nero

,

Tchill

,

dave

,

A50

,

TSE

,

Voted

,

Nhadia

,

mastina

, Rest
Nero Cain>

Nhadia

,

Tchill

,

Oka

,

Gobble

,

Auro

,

Jake

,

A50

,

TSE

,

dave

,

mastina

, Rest
Tchill13>

Auro

,

Nero

,

Oka

,

dave

,

Alch

,

FL

,

mastina

,

Hactoc

, Rest
pisskop>

Tchill

, Rest

Okay, you can lynch me now. This is my solve.

Quoting for emphasis...

Spoiler:

I ignored this post originally because I do not understand it...

Where is the solve here? XD

Counting is your fwen wit dis.

[Quick]

Infected die start of the next night so we'd just be wasting our only ways of killing the original scum.

Quick, what does that even mean?

Never SvS

Almost never SvS

Very small chance of of SvS

Small chance of SvS

Low chance of being Not SvS

Better than average chance of being Not SvS

Better than average chance of being Not SvS D1 only

Low chance of being Not SvS D1 only

Small chance of SvS D1 only

Nvm should have read like 2 posts later...

That doesn't help me with understanding how it's a solve though.

Hence, enough info lynches solves the game..

[Quick]

It's an association list. For example:

If I'm scum, Nero is never scum. But Auro is likely scum. Oka is likely not scum as of day 1.

Not quite right, but close enough.

[Quick]

All my TRs are voting Hactoc and I'm not sure how I feel about that...

[Quick]

Alternatively, Hoctac could just be scum, I just wanted to shade because it’s fun

Sheep me...

[Quick]

Who you voting Quick?

Like... look 20 posts back. I am voting Hactoc.

[Quick]

Who you voting Quick?

Like... look 20 posts back. I am voting Hactoc.

30 posts back, but still. It's on the page just before this. R U serious?

[Quick]

Who you voting Quick?

Like... look 20 posts back. I am voting Hactoc.

30 posts back, but still. It's on the page just before this. R U serious?

Hey, TownFL doesn’t pay attention to games if they’re not heavily in it.

VOTE: Hoctac

No, No. Don't buy it. Don't buy it, I say.

[Quick]

I'll wait for Hoctac's explanation but I don't think that's a slip.

Saying things are slips is like sucking on poopy balls.

[Quick]

Quick, you're doing something in this game that you weren't doing at all in the last completed game we played together.

You were town in that game.

Therefore: Something is different with you in this game. If the variable here is not your alignment, what counter-theory would you propose?

Let me know when you figure it out.

[Quick]

Who are we lynching?

Hactoc. A Scum!Hactoc clears you BTW.

[Quick]

Quick, you're doing something in this game that you weren't doing at all in the last completed game we played together.

You were town in that game.

Therefore: Something is different with you in this game. If the variable here is not your alignment, what counter-theory would you propose?

Let me know when you figure it out.

You know answers like that are the main reason you get lynched all the time, right?

I already said I am fine being lynched. Was there something else, or...

[Quick]

Blair, he thinks he's hot shit now b/c he was able to "call" scum in a game when there were like 2 confirmed town and there were only 5 slots that could be scum and he got all 3 right...out of 5. Such solid work.

No, she is just trying to reinvigorate the BW on me because she doesn't like what I am doing rn.

[Quick]

I'm trying to get you to answer a direct question, actually.

Surprisingly difficult, I have to admit.

That's because there isn't a question there. How many games have you played with me? Different game combinations means I come across differently. You are chasing the wind here trying to resurrect a wagon on me.

[Quick]

I'm trying to get you to answer a direct question, actually.

Surprisingly difficult, I have to admit.

That's because there isn't a question there. How many games have you played with me? Different game combinations means I come across differently. You are chasing the wind here trying to resurrect a wagon on me.

I got what I needed from this, thank you.

Vote Hactoc to show your colors.

Spoiler:

[Quick]

Party at your place, Quick?

Never.

[Quick]

See people don’t infect me unless strong partner connection is there, a la A50 and Auro, however Auro probably wouldn’t infect me because of that and A50 would do it because he wouldn’t do it because he would do it

Tchill would likely do it a few days in, not immediately, similar to what Aristo said.

Nero wouldn’t do it.

Mastina would never infect me.

Who is to say A50 hasn't infected you tho? Like.. you are saying the premise is true due to the premise being true. It's not even circular, it's just you saying something assuming it's true hence it's true.

He's saying I'd do it because everybody thinks I wouldn't because it is what they would expect me to do. It's a double layer WIFOM approach.

It's not WIFOM, just bull shit.

[Quick]

Blair>

Auro

,

Nero

,

FL

, Rest
Auro>

TSE

,

Oka

,

Tchill

,

dave

,

FL

,

Nhadia

,

Ari

,

Nero

,

Blair

,

masitna

, Rest
Hoctac>

Voted

,

dave

,

TSE

,

Oka

,

FL

, Rest
5G Tower> ALL
Jake the Wolfie>

Ari

,

Oka

,

dave

,

Nero

,

Voted

, Rest
Aristophanes>

Jake

,

Auro

,

Gobble

,

Tchill

,

TSE

,

Voted

, Rest
TrueSoulEnergy>

Auro

,

dave

,

Gobbles

,

Hactoc

,

Ari

, Rest
Voted>

Hactoc

,

dave

,

Jake

,

Gobble

,

Ari

,

TSE

, Rest
Alchemist21>

Nero

,

Oka

,

Tchill

,

mastina

,

Voted

, Rest
Nahdia>

Nero

,

Auro

,

Oka

, Rest
Flavor Leaf>

Tchill

,

Auro

,

Hoctac

,

Blair

, Rest
gobbledygook>

mastina

,

dave

,

Nero

,

Tchill

,

Hoctac

,

Voted

,

Ari

, Rest
davesaz>

Tchill

,

Auro

,

Nero

,

Oka

,

Gobble

,

TSE

,

Voted

,

Hoctac

,

Jake

,

mastina

,

Auro

, Rest
mastina>

Gobble

,

Tchill

,

Nero

,

Auro

,

Oka

,

A50

,

dave

OkaPoka>

Jake

,

Auro

,

Nero

,

Tchill

,

dave

,

A50

,

TSE

,

Voted

,

Nhadia

,

mastina

, Rest
Nero Cain>

Nhadia

,

Tchill

,

Oka

,

Gobble

,

Auro

,

Jake

,

A50

,

TSE

,

dave

,

mastina

, Rest
Tchill13>

Auro

,

Nero

,

Oka

,

dave

,

Alch

,

FL

,

mastina

,

Hactoc

, Rest
pisskop>

Tchill

, Rest

Okay, you can lynch me now. This is my solve.

Quoting for emphasis...

Spoiler:

Quoting for reassurance that I won't ask

Spoiler: But I'm nice, look...

[Quick]

Who are we lynching?

Whoever's head fits that noose

*cough* Hactoc *cough*

[Quick]

See people don’t infect me unless strong partner connection is there, a la A50 and Auro, however Auro probably wouldn’t infect me because of that and A50 would do it because he wouldn’t do it because he would do it

Tchill would likely do it a few days in, not immediately, similar to what Aristo said.

Nero wouldn’t do it.

Mastina would never infect me.

Who is to say A50 hasn't infected you tho? Like.. you are saying the premise is true due to the premise being true. It's not even circular, it's just you saying something assuming it's true hence it's true.

He's saying I'd do it because everybody thinks I wouldn't because it is what they would expect me to do. It's a double layer WIFOM approach.

It's not WIFOM, just bull shit.

Or Mnt Dew??

I'll have the crab juice, thanks.

[Quick]

I've already stated at least once before that I have the ability to privately ask the mod questions?

Now that's a new one. Does it say so explicitly in your "original" Role PM??

It doesn't explicitly say so in my only role PM, no.

Quote your role PM so I know what you are...

*eyebrows*

[Quick]

slips are probably the worst kinds of info to talk about.. If it's a slip there

is

no question about it.

[Quick]

all of scumhunting is looking for slips

Fuck that, no it isn't.

[Quick]

Infected die start of the next night so we'd just be wasting our only ways of killing the original scum.

Quick, what does that even mean?

Maybe Hactoc wants to get lynched and this is bad for Town???

[Quick]

Are pisskop's, voted's and Nero's votes really that old?
We're pretty far from a lynch for being less than 2 days from deadline. 9/20 scattered votes.

Good point(s).

[Quick]

Why is Aristophanes' vote out of play (again) when they have so many scumreads?

Because reads require reformulating in light of new info and discussion, and I have not had a chance to do my Tchill/Quick/Jake deep dive, which I have lost some confidence in since my Jake read has changed anyway.

Would you rather I throw my vote ariund wildly? I can do that, but I see no point in it.

You recalculated enough to unvote but not enough to apply pressure elsewhere.

Would I prefer you "throw [your] vote around wildly?" No. I would prefer you didn't throw your reads around wildly and you used your vote to dig for scum.

I find scum have a higher occurrence in the "Not Voting" column. I would never scumread someone for appearing in that column once, but a pattern? I remember you were one of the only people not voting when I subbed in. Now you are not voting again.

It's a small thing, and I wouldn't exactly call it a "tell," but it's definitely... telling.

VOTE: Aristophanes

You are acting like Toby at this point. Why? Why are you the way you are? Ari is Town and he's not getting lynched today.

[Quick]

(The inclusion of Quick is there, 1: as a reminder to the remnants of that wagon why I won't vote for him not even at deadline, and 2: because it is pertinent to the Tchill-is-town reasoning because many of the reasons I have for Quick being town are also reasons I have for Tchill being town thus necessitating the inclusion of Quick for the full defense of Tchill.)

I kinda really like this reasoning and it seems it would be hard to fake as Scum... But I have never seen mastina as Scum so YMMV.

[Quick]

all men must die

:/

Seconded.

[Quick]

dave, Nhadia, Jake
A50, Auro, Nero, Ari
Alch, Tchill, Oka
mastina, Gobbles, TSE, Voted >Null
Blair
Hactoc
Piss
FL

[Quick]

his "system" only works with tons of dead players

Fairly accurate, I would say.

[Quick]

i literally saw a vote on aristophanes earlier today dude

and then before that i saw a pisskop vote

kinda bewildering to happen this close to deadline>

Probably Blair. Their shade on me is pretty obvious.

[Quick]

i literally saw a vote on aristophanes earlier today dude

and then before that i saw a pisskop vote

kinda bewildering to happen this close to deadline>

Probably Blair. Their shade on me is pretty obvious.

That shade was literally labeled "shade."

You're a real Sherlock Holmes.

I was talking about outside of your sarcasm.

[Quick]

Oka, I can see where you're coming from, and I'mma let you finish, but Aristophanes is one of the greatest wagons of all time.

The lie detector determined

that

was a lie!

[Quick]

Quick, hardcore buddying doesn't WIFOM itself into a towntell for me.

I never buddy as Scum. What exactly did you think I meant by that?

[Quick]

A d2 lynch on an infected forces scum to no kill or use up one of their two infection free night kills. This sort of begrudged vote doesn't really make sense from town, IMO.

I love your shading of everything I do.

"Presumably", Jake is infected. I also assumed that Infections resolve before kills, and thus I would also assume cure takes place before the kill as well. Leaving Jake alive means scum will either kill him AFTER he gets cured = exhausting one of their 2 kills on the uninfected (which is what you want) OR risk him being cured (and thus presumably immunized). My milkshake is still better than yours.

I would much rather be fake-cured to prove I'm not infected than to be lynched by an idiotic town who doesn't want to lynch actual scum, and instead wants to lynch disposable infected.

Who are the actual scum, Jake?

Does this question even need to be asked? It's pretty clear (by my standards) that Jake is Town here.

[Quick]

Therefore (we assume), only one player has been infected so far.

Or we can read the day start post from the mod, which states there is one infected.
(Unless this is a false memory, I'm too lazy to go look rn. Post-Chipotle lazy.)

Yup. That's a bit of info I have held on to. It checks out.

[Quick]

Blair seems to be chasing the wind. It's actually not a whole lot different from their pred IIRC.

[Quick]

Honestly I've given all I care to give for this game. If I'm not lynched today, I'll try playing tommorow. I'm being lynched under the guise that I'm infected, not OG scum. Let me remind you that infected are 100% disposable scum, that the real scumteam don't really care about. Sure, they might try and save their infectees from dying, but ultimately they don't really care, as infected can easily be replaced. An infected lynch is essentially a traitor lynch. A lynch used on the irrelevant. A lynch used to waste time, to make the town more confident when really they killed one of their own.

Look for people trying to lynch infected. They are here to waste the town's time on the irrelevant, to appear town without having to actually bus their partners.

Could you name names? For science?

[Quick]

L-2

Are you on drugs?

[Quick]

VOTE: Ari

[Quick]

in fact, I think that's what OR says happened last night. Mastina was a scum kill and Blair was infected last night.

I'm not convinced that infected know who Mafia are for ~reasons~, but you might want to ask the mod if Infected DO know who Mafia are.

Plus, all the people pushing jake I have to subtract 100 Town points from.

[Quick]

1. I don't care about what you think
2. I wasn't really pushing Jake
3. I don't understand how this comment even relates to my belief that Blair could have (and prob was) the infection last night and its why she died

You need a chill pill, seriously.

[Quick]

I'm chill.U just got rekt and now you're attempting to save face by claiming that I'm unnecessarily angry?

[Quick]

I don't like turkys

I reported this post for discrimination.

I thought you were just a pokemon.

[Quick]

mastina is also dead, with no alignment change noted in their flip. This tells me that scum used one of their 2 kills on mastina.

Time to look at mastina's reads :eyebrows:

[Quick]

but i think its worth noting whoever steered toward jake opposed to quick at the end of the day.

Mastina had me as almost lock Town bro.

[Quick]

And, I promised an updated readslist. Here's the short version, I'll quote this post with explanations of relevant read shifts in a moment.

Nero Cain
No łynch/Voted

Auro
Vecna/TrueSoulEnergy
Miss Lynch/OkaPoka

Quick
Hoctac
Tchill13

Elements/Nahdia
Alchemist21 + davesaz
Flavor Leaf
Almost50
momo/Creature/Blair
Aristophanes



Jake the Wolfie
5G Tower
Saudade/pisskop
farside22/gobbledygook

Thereabouts, will explain in a sec.

mastina's reads. Will compare to my own and vote.

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BTW, we are now on Level 3 of reads. Will see for overlap this day phase.

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but i think its worth noting whoever steered toward jake opposed to quick at the end of the day.

this is bad reasoning

You are just finding out now that Tchills reasons suck?

[Quick]

Also, I really think there is one Scum in Nero/Nhadia and I am heavily leaning toward Nhadia.

[Quick]

either someone who hard TR'd mastina killed them or someone who mastina TR'd killed them imo.

Mastina had me as almost lock Town bro.

What Tchill said is simply WIFOM. That's ALL it is.

[Quick]

Also, I really think there is one Scum in Nero/Nhadia and I am heavily leaning toward Nhadia.

why do you think there is scum between us?

Too many Non-Associatives between you... And Nhadia doesn't actually have that many besides you. That's why I think you were probably right on her being Scum. Noticing new patterns all the time with my new system. This is one of the new realizations I had with it - that if someone normally has very few Non-Associatives but is really heavy with someone - usually a strong TR, then they are probably Scum.

[Quick]

Do you think his conjecture was scummy or merely flawed?

I think it is very much a Tchill comment and it speaks more about the kinds of reasons he gives for things than anything else in terms of it being true/false.

[Quick]

like we are 200 pages in and

posted the most. Accomplished little to nothing

^
is how much he's analyzed the game.

True statement. I've put in 10X more work into this game than Tchill has. And he has the audacity to vote me based on tinfoil theories.

If I get lynched, so be it. Then you can all trust that what I was saying I actually believe in.

Spoiler:

[Quick]

did you objectively think jake was a better lynch than quick?

Calculate this you fraud... I was the ONLY PERSON saying Jake was Town. So now you want to say I am Scum because I was right? Well then lynch me and watch the embarrassment on your face drop into eternity.

[Quick]

Also, I really think there is one Scum in Nero/Nhadia and I am heavily leaning toward Nhadia.

why do you think there is scum between us?

Too many Non-Associatives between you... And Nhadia doesn't actually have that many besides you. That's why I think you were probably right on her being Scum. Noticing new patterns all the time with my new system. This is one of the new realizations I had with it - that if someone normally has very few Non-Associatives but is really heavy with someone - usually a strong TR, then they are probably Scum.

i actually like the reasoning here but i promise you, it's just a playstyle thing.

i'm not sure why you framed a scumread on me as being "scum in Nero/Nahdia" though. like, why isn't is it possible that we're just both town? that's my current thinking.

I'm not convinced you didn't Infect Nero, how does that sound?

[Quick]

Well then lynch me and watch the embarrassment on your face drop into eternity

when im wrong it lasts for seconds...

when im right, thats the time for eternity

You're still a fraud and don't know how to play. How about generate some skills to go with your overblown ego?

[Quick]

and why would i infect someone tunneling me?

regardless, that's impossible. there was no infection last night, and i joined the game day 2.

Mod just didn't confirm there were Infections. That doesn't mean there weren't any.

Also, why wouldn't you Infect someone so they don't tunnel you anymore? And you saying it's based on playstyle is a load of hot shit because my system doesn't care about your playstyle - it cares about facts.

[Quick]

at least i can read, fuckass

I'm too smart to be caught up in details. Just how my brain works.

[Quick]

I'm not convinced you didn't Infect Nero, how does that sound?

Man, mastina put Nero at the top of her readlist for the whole game. Do you think she would have continued to do so over someone she actually targeted and didn't die?

Btw, mod told me if mastina visited scum she would "vaccinate" them, as scum are considered "not infected", so I am not saying Nero is "mechanically" cleared (although by play he sure is), but I'm saying he could not have been infected. Literally the only slot that I trust wasn't infected aside from my own slot). If you think he is scum you need to push him as an original member of the scum team. Do you have a case for that??

No. I don't I think given there aren't any infections last night Nero is like top tier Town for me.

[Quick]

Did I suggest he should be top town tier for you???? I said, if you want to suspect him, you need to suspect he started the game as scum, and not that he got infected. On N1, if he got infected he would have died, because mastina has been crumbing he would be her target on D1 and continued to crumb he was clear on D2. mastina visiting him on the night he got infected should have killed him.

On N2, no explanation needed. There were no infections, so he wasn't infected on N2 either. So,

mechanically

Nero is either original scum or immune town. I am going for the latter.

Yeah, based on my system, there's a snowballs chance in hell that he's original Scum. That's why I said he is top tier Town. dave is in that category as well. Oka WAS but after Jake flipped Town (which I had him as Town for the same reasons why I thought Nero and dave are not OG Scum) they lost a big portion of their Non-Associates since they had so many with Jake, which means Oka has pretty good Scum equity at this point for the same reason Nhadia does.

[Quick]

More or less where I am at the start of D3

dave, Nero, Auro
A50, Tchill, Alch, TSE, Voted
Nhadia, Oka, Gobble > Null
Ari
Piss, Hactoc
FL

[Quick]

I have a tin foil theory still that dave is Scum, but that is pending which would make Hactoc Town.

[Quick]

I have a tin foil theory still that dave is Scum, but that is pending which would make Hactoc Town.

Why would Dave!Scum = Hactoc!Town?

Non-Associative with those players.

[Quick]

Also, Dave has ZERO Non-Associatives with Ari.

Flip Ari!Scum to catch dave!Scum.

[Quick]

i dont think a lack of associatives means much in a game that's been played mostly with 20 people in it, actually

Ofc you would say that if the team was EXACTLY:

Spoiler:

Ari, Nhadia, dave

Spoiler tag changed to spoiler= per the rules.
~Covid 19

[Quick]

Ari has no Non-Associatives with

Spoiler:

Nhadia, dave

Nhadia has no Non-Associatives with

Spoiler:

Ari, dave

Dave has no Non-Associatives with

Spoiler:

Ari, Nhadia

Congrats to me on solving the game D3.

Spoiler tags replaced with spoiler= per the rules.
~Covid 19

[Quick]

if only it were so easy.

That sounds like a Scum claim.

[Quick]

And Nhadia admits they like my logic on there being 1 Scum in Nhadia/Nero, yet says that this is just their playstyle???

Dave has a LOT of Non-Associatives spread out and in high quantities with a ton of people I am strongly reading as Town, but VERY FEW IF ANY with the people I am SRing. Ari has been active and dave has Non-Associatives with pretty much ALL the active players. That's a HUGE red flag. Nhadia is only a high TR based on Non-Associatives with Nero, but Nero is BLEEDING Town based on Meta AND my analysis. So it's natural that Nero could have just caught Nhadia and Nhadia did mention that they thought they found the key to breaking my system, except so did Ari, but their both wrong because there are no Non-Associatives between them.

[Quick]

but Nero is BLEEDING Town based on Meta AND my analysis

you had me near null yesterday you turd and @ 1 point you were calling me scum.

I don't remember calling you Scum, but I don't remember everything I write because I write a LOT.

[Quick]

Still sticking with my theory but maybe I should be looking for other viable teams as well.

[Quick]

And Nhadia admits they like my logic on there being 1 Scum in Nhadia/Nero, yet says that this is just their playstyle???

my point was that i think it's a valid train of thought. but still, trying to read positive associations (as in, Scum-Scum) is a fools game. Especially in a 20 person table. And my point about my own playstyle is that I haven't been posting up a storm and reacting to everything as I would have in the past intentionally. i'm trying to be a bit more relaxed, these days. you'll have to forgive me if i'm not responding to what everyone is saying, but i have been reading and making assertations as we go. not my problem if you don't think much of them.

so Quick you're like, really bad at mafia, huh? let me guess, you're one of those people who when you lynch town, you say something like "well they were actually scum in their play, so it's their fault."

I have a ~60% win rate over more than 100+ games. Come again?

[Quick]

For your reading pleasure @All:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... Statistics

And I am WAY more emotionally balanced then I was before, which actually skyrockets my play because I was a chaotic mess before.

Fuck everyone if you doubt me.

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sorry, i dont want to be so hostile. i apologize

i just think fundamentally the way you're coming to partner conclusions based on non-associatives is a bad way to read this kind of game.

individually, finding players that haven't interacting with much of the table is an intelligent way to scumhunt. that was what i was talking about when i said i liked your logic earlier. but finding two players that havent interacted in a 21 person game and calling them scum for it is just.... dumb, i think.

You've misinterpreted my entire system. I don't blame you, but you're:

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Now Quick will rage and self vote and we all will lynch him and he'll flip town

Nope. I only self vote to hammer myself if I am Scum.

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and we all know winrate is the best way to judge a players play.

Give it time, Nero. You will come around like everyone else

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Now Quick will rage and self vote and we all will lynch him and he'll flip town

Perfect

It would be, except I'm not going to be doing that. Instead, I will force Scum to lynch me.

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Now Quick will rage and self vote and we all will lynch him and he'll flip town

Perfect

It would be, except I'm not going to be doing that. Instead, I will force Scum to lynch me.

Well that's no fun!

Where's the drama! Where's the emotion!

I don't need those to solve games.

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How serious are these?

Deadly.

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isn't there a lil' bit of talking out of both sides of your mouth when you say I'm bleeding green but you are also saying that I'm scum if Nahdia isn't?

I'm not saying that tho?

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not surprising. I find u hard to follow and it's annoying/immature when you (and others on this site) won't answer a question and give a snarky retort that includes their own q.

When one says player X/Player Y it usually means one or the other unless its something like an ordered list.

I also know that u said/thought that Nahdia might have infected me.

u r just kinda...all over the fucking place.

and it's kinda the language u used so...

Also, I really think there is one Scum in Nero/Nhadia

Yeah. I am an intuitive so unless you plan on misrepping me as Scum, you should probably take all I have said into account because that's just my style.

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and it's kinda the language u used so...

Also, I really think there is one Scum in Nero/Nhadia

Yeah, I also said you are top tier Town.

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so if im top tier town how do you believe "one scum in nahdia/Nero?

If you think its just Nahdia then I don't really get the use of Nero/Nahdia language.

u think I'm deepwolfing and that's why you included me?

You are Top Town based on the numbers of Non-Associatives you have and how many you have with each player. So is Nhadia, but they, unlike you, have almost all of their with you, who are otherwise Town given Nhadia is Town. Not the same for Nhadia, as she has a lot of Non-Associatives with you, but not many outside of that. Hence, it COULD be just bad TvT, but given the nature of Nhadia having them with ONLY a Top Tier TR, it's more likely that Nhadia is just caught Scum and is forced to go toe to toe with an almost confirmed Town slot (based on my subjective opinion of the situation).

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unless you plan on misrepping me as Scum

The "you" there was plural. Meant for all my Scum homies trying to get my lynched based on false info. You're still town because you are INQUIRING and not ACCUSING.

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Is that a yawn or a cough?

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He's crumbing that he's infected, obviously

For shame.

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This presumes that infected learn who scum are

He didn't mean "I will hunt you down if you infect me", rather "I'll end up dragging you down because I can't play".

This is true
But also I will out I am infected so I can get cured.

/banned

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VOTE: Gobble

Naked vote and that is how I like 'em.

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Nahdia, why did you scumread 5G and Creature?

Please tell me all the conclusions you have for all these weak questions.

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Keep in mind Gobble has not asked me a single question...

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And Nhadia admits they like my logic on there being 1 Scum in Nhadia/Nero, yet says that this is just their playstyle???

Dave has a LOT of Non-Associatives spread out and in high quantities with a ton of people I am strongly reading as Town, but VERY FEW IF ANY with the people I am SRing. Ari has been active and dave has Non-Associatives with pretty much ALL the active players. That's a HUGE red flag. Nhadia is only a high TR based on Non-Associatives with Nero, but Nero is BLEEDING Town based on Meta AND my analysis. So it's natural that Nero could have just caught Nhadia and Nhadia did mention that they thought they found the key to breaking my system, except so did Ari, but their both wrong because there are no Non-Associatives between them.

I'm curious what you're calling non-associatives.

People will find out soon enough. As it is now, I'd rather leave the qualifications of what makes an Non-Associative under wraps.

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VOTE: Gobble

Naked vote and that is how I like 'em.

Is this because I declined your /in to my large normal?

y did u decline him?

Nero

I don't always spam the thread like this. But it's too late now.

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And Nhadia admits they like my logic on there being 1 Scum in Nhadia/Nero, yet says that this is just their playstyle???

Dave has a LOT of Non-Associatives spread out and in high quantities with a ton of people I am strongly reading as Town, but VERY FEW IF ANY with the people I am SRing. Ari has been active and dave has Non-Associatives with pretty much ALL the active players. That's a HUGE red flag. Nhadia is only a high TR based on Non-Associatives with Nero, but Nero is BLEEDING Town based on Meta AND my analysis. So it's natural that Nero could have just caught Nhadia and Nhadia did mention that they thought they found the key to breaking my system, except so did Ari, but their both wrong because there are no Non-Associatives between them.

I'm curious what you're calling non-associatives.

People will find out soon enough. As it is now, I'd rather leave the qualifications of what makes an Non-Associative under wraps.

Just to clarify, it's not 100% accurate, but it's accurate enough.

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For your reading pleasure @All:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... Statistics

And I am WAY more emotionally balanced then I was before, which actually skyrockets my play because I was a chaotic mess before.

Fuck everyone if you doubt me.

Oh great, another egotist.

It stems from people constantly saying I am Anti-Town/Suck at Mafia and the like.

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Spoiler:

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How's it going

Fine. Who do you want to lynch?

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:RE the hood

its nullish. Yes, mods do like to put scum in a hood but there's also no guarantee there is scum in the hood. I think I'm ok with not knowing who is in the hood b/c if it's scumless then it just adds more places scum can fake scum hunt.

I highly agree with this post. Good post.

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My townbloc is 5G, Voted, Nero. Jake was in there too but you guys brutally murdered him. Thing is, he did betray and vote me out of "survivalism", so I won't shed too many tears for him.

Saudade was momentarily in there too, but his "suspicion" on me for a joke attack on him seemed awfully defensive (this is way back now), and there have been new developments with posskop which make me sus of him.

You're not making it to end game, don't worry your pretty little head about that.

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Thanks! You're too kind to me, Quick.

LOL. I will say you have level 3 jokes tho.

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beep

Can you at least tell us how many people are in the hood?

Wait, don't answer that..

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BTW, Tchill is actually voting me for being right about Jake? I guess he can't comprehend the level I am playing on.

Damn, that felt good.

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Here is a list very roughly speaking based on going after Scummy behavior...

Tchill, TSE, Oka, Hoctac, Voted > Very Good
Nero, Ari, FL, Auro, Gooble > Good
Nahdia, dave, Alch > Not Good
Piss, A50 > Very very bad

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my lvl

quicks lvl

everyone elses lvl

tchills lvl

Probably the best compliment you can possibly give me tbh.

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VOTE: nero cain

am i insane? have i lost it? or am i a magical wizard? find out next time on dragon ball z

Probably yes. I will read this intermittently tonight but I’m setting up my game.
Quick, the reason I rejected your /in was because I didn’t want a 1000 posts from one player in my game.

My number of posts depends on how active the game is.

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VOTE: Nahdia

@Nero, you still interested in lynching this?

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I might be

What is preventing you right now from voting there?

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@Nero,

Here are two lists. High on the list is good, low is bad.

1 Tchill_______________________dave
2 TSE _______________________Nero
3 Oka _______________________Auro
4 Hactoc______________________A50
5 Voted_______________________Tchill
5 Nero _______________________Alch
6 Ari_________________________TSE
7 FL_________________________Voted
8 Auro _______________________Nahdia
9 Gobble______________________Oka
A Nahdia_____________________Gooble
B dave _______________________Ari
C Alch________________________Piss
D Piss________________________Hactoc
E A50________________________FL

Now, given YOUR READS Who would you vote based on the above?

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Where am I?

Error... Error... Does not compute. Error... Error... Does not compute...

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Tchill, Nero Auro
Voted, dave, Oka
Ari, Alch, A50 > Null
Nahdia, Gobble
FL
Piss

P-Edit...

I could go either way actually.

VOTE: Gobble

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Ari, Alch, A50 > Null
Nahdia, Gobble
FL
Piss

I feel like Piss lurking is NAI and FL being FL is more annoying than scummy. I think the two rows above are the sweet spot.

That's not to say that I think Piss or FL are necessarily a green pm but I think they could be.

Yeah, things get wonky near the bottom. You should see 5G. I basically stopped calculating for them.

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i think this is how I feel atm

Nero Cain















.

Had me laughing for a good minute there.

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Seeeecret tunnel

3 points to anyone who knows

Why is Auro Scum tho?

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VOTE: nero

hunchbacked by notre dame

No, stop, we are not lynching Nero.

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why are you not being the same loud annoying player I've played with before?

I take it that this was/is directed at me (and I do apologize if I'm responding to a post directed at someone else). Assuming you're talking to me I have no explanation except that I want to play the way I am playing. (Hint: If

this

answer isn't

annoying

to you, I don't know what is)

It was directed at TSE? How is that not clear?

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You know...

If I cock my head every so slightly, I can kind see Auro fishing in some posts...

Here goes nothing:

VOTE: Auro

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how is me saying i have a hunch scummy or opportunistic, i could've easily made up a case and walled you if i wanted to

b/c by not giving any reason you are aren't going to be held accountable. I mean, I guess someone could go "hey oka is scummy as shit for not giving any reason for mislynching Nero." but for the most part not giving any reason is not letting people analyze you and your reasoning.

ok do you know what a hunch means

Yes, it means essentially nothing.

GLHF

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Gunna start on D3 now.

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you, oka, quick, alchemist.

So Alch is Scum here, or...

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Thoughts?

Agree. Was kinda thinking a Scum in the hood would be too damning for Scum since there are only 3 OG Scum.

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Nahdia, why did you scumread 5G and Creature?

Please tell me all the conclusions you have for all these weak questions.

It’s actually comical how many people incorrectly scumread me for asking the questions.

I kinda buy this actually...

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On page 223 and I am thinking there is really one Scum in:

Nero/Nahdia
Auro/Nadia
FL/Auro

Make of that what you will.

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VOTE: Nahdia

And Ari is just Scum here as well.

2 Scum down. Damn it feels good to be a gangsta.

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RN I am pondering if I get a new PC chair or a new PC monitor. I bought a desk (well, it's really a table) recently but it isn't arriving until July.

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VOTE: 5G

I kinda hate this vote.

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And I am caught up.

GLHF

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VOTE: 5G

I kinda hate this vote.

The vote’s not too fond of you either.

I just don't get why you are not voting for your SRs..

Who are your SRs btw?

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Where is my vote rn?

VOTE: Nahdia

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I'm kinda not reading

^ Is not even trying to represent me truthfully. You sure you're not just salty I caught you as Scum?


Fyi, I totally expect something to go wrong with this post because I am phone posting.