SIR Disease Mafia - Game Over!

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It's clidd! Yeah, he's an alt of RCEnigma.

what

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It's clidd! Yeah, he's an alt of RCEnigma.

what

he said

IT'S CLIDD! YEAH, HE'S AN ALT OF

R

C

ENIGMA.

what

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Why is A50 the lead choice

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I have 200 posts

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Why would scum me need excuses to not do work? I’m great at faking stuff

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If anything the excuses would be more work

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I’m going to start calling lynched executed in games even that I’m not modding

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Your current flavored spice: Pink Himalayan Salt. A little colorful, definitely tastier than the average salt, but still not too exciting.

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VOTE: Auro

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I don't want either of these. I think they're both town.

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meh

VOTE: Hoctac

A50 I'm not gut scum reading, so I don't think he's scum. And I only have end of day wagon really to read Hoc.

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meh

VOTE: Hoctac

A50 I'm not gut scum reading, so I don't think he's scum. And I only have end of day wagon really to read Hoc.

this your grand strategy of 'doing something'?

nah i have no strategy, im town

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Awesome. Okay, so I target every night, and if I target someone who is infected I gain an immunization shot.

I received the immunization action. I targeted Clidd.

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Awesome. Okay, so I target every night, and if I target someone who is infected I gain an immunization shot.

I received the immunization action. I targeted Clidd.

I no longer have this first part as an ability, though.

I’m also the anonymous reports

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I targeted A50 night 1. LQ Night 2, Alchemist Night 3.

The first part. I assume it’s not permanent. It just says i can essentially cure an infected. I’ll target Clidd tonight

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Awesome. Okay, so I target every night, and if I target someone who is infected I gain an immunization shot.

I received the immunization action. I targeted Clidd.

I no longer have this first part as an ability, though.

I’m also the anonymous reports

Why did you claim this now? Shouldn't you have waited until after you USED that immunization shot, so Mafia doesn't just shoot you?
Also why claim to be the infection reporter at all?

I don’t care if they shoot me. If they shoot me, I think that’s a win.

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I haven’t really been playing, Radical, so me giving my info is the least I can do.

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To be fair, the radical rat push right as I announced a way to clear someone onto the person I’ve been pushing as scum is pretty scummy.

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I’ll go back and reread and see if I can case Auro and then I’ll look at TSE stuff.

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No, I said Radical Rat pushing you right when they did is scummy

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Damn, LQ kinda scummy for that post. the role fish. Looks like scum scared i have more to my role

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No, I said Radical Rat pushing you right when they did is scummy

I started typing up that post before you had posted that information.
Regardless, that information doesn't change anything. Clidd is currently infected yes, and is a good fallback lynch if we can't get a better one in before deadline. BUT, you also have a way to cure them if your claim is true, and we'll need that cure in order to prevent parity tonight. I'd also prefer to lynch one of the original Mafia team, on account of it being easier to scumhunt someone who's been scum the whole time, AND if we get all three we can slow the infection.

No, Clidd is a terrible lynch. They’re the only person I know I can cure.

It absolutely does change stuff.

This is you pigeonholing.

Right now RR and LQ are my leaning main group scum reads.

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Pisskop is scummy for sheeping the rat

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And why are you ignoring Piss vs Gobble, FL?

What is Piss vs Gobble again?

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For all I know, you were infected, FL.

I imagine the people who are infected are going to be more timid because they wouldn’t necessarily know who to safely lynch.

If that makes sense.

I’m like 90% sure Rat’s just group scum.

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And why are you ignoring Piss vs Gobble, FL?

What is Piss vs Gobble again?

Gobble saw Piss visit Blair, who died the night Piss visited them. Also, you need to know Blair's role to get why that means something.

Which night was this?

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I’ll go back and reread and see if I can case Auro and then I’ll look at TSE stuff.

What happened to this? That's a surprise.

I fell asleep, and now I just woke up, almost 1 pm here.

Don’t really feel like catching up right now.
I’ll be with the FlipNips sometime soon

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Does that mean Pisskop is infected?

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I pushed my “i will claim infected if ever infected” thing because it 100% dissuades scum from wanting to risk that.

I was also trying to get that to catch on, so I could target someone who was infected then cure them.

@LQ - I don’t think you’re group scum, actually, but you gotta stop being paranoid of me here and help me solve.

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I pushed my “i will claim infected if ever infected” thing because it 100% dissuades scum from wanting to risk that.

I was also trying to get that to catch on, so I could target someone who was infected then cure them.

@LQ - I don’t think you’re group scum, actually, but you gotta stop being paranoid of me here and help me solve.

Fine, what happened to that Auru!Scum read?

The Rat pushed Auro, and I’m still here Day 5.

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For all I know, you were infected, FL.

I imagine the people who are infected are going to be more timid because they wouldn’t necessarily know who to safely lynch.

Except you said yourself that you pay more attention to what is going on when you are Scum and that's exactly what you are doing now...

You just called me out for not knowing about the Blair thing

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And I pay attention as town still, that’s not alignment specific, especially late game.

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For all I know, you were infected, FL.

I imagine the people who are infected are going to be more timid because they wouldn’t necessarily know who to safely lynch.

Except you said yourself that you pay more attention to what is going on when you are Scum and that's exactly what you are doing now...

You just called me out for not knowing about the Blair thing

Yeah, and now you care about that suddenly?

You knew here? This is late game. I’m into games late game.

I also just got my other ability, and have more of a grasp on the game because Clidd is infected

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K, maybe LQ is infected or something and knows who the scum team is.

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We knew LQ wasn’t infected pre Day 3.

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K, maybe LQ is infected or something and knows who the scum team is.

Pray tell why you think so...

Because you’re devil’s advocate obnoxious

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K, maybe LQ is infected or something and knows who the scum team is.

Pray tell why you think so...

Because you’re devil’s advocate obnoxious

Obnoxious isn't a Scum tell. It's probably more like a Town tell.

Yeah, but you take things too seriously. Including that post

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Radical Cat, Nero Cain are 2 group scum.

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9. CheekyTeeky
10. Alchemist21
11. clidd
12. Flavor Leaf
13. gobbledygook
18. OkaPoka
21. pisskop

all these slots are scummy as fuck.

Clidd is confirmed infected, and I’ll cure them tonight.

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9. CheekyTeeky
10. Alchemist21
11. clidd
12. Flavor Leaf
13. gobbledygook
18. OkaPoka
21. pisskop

all these slots are scummy as fuck.

There’s probably a group scum in this list somewhere. CheekyTeeky or Okapoka would be my best bet

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There’s the possibility Alchemist is group scum trying to pocket me right now, but if that were the case, I still think I hit his partners.

Which means there’s a Nero Cain/Alchemist connection.

And both are directly tied to Radical. My mind’s wandering, though.

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Because they have already been caught as being Scum.

No he was possibly infected. Totally different from being caught as group scum.

Except it goes against your win con to claim infected as infected. This has been documented by the mod in this thread. That's why I think Piss isn't claiming infected as infected.

Well if he’s not group scum and he’s not infected then he must be...?

There's literally NOTHING saying he can't be group Scum.

I could see it. Who’s his partners?

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Alright, let’s lynch Rat.

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LQ’s position in this gamestate makes me feel he’s in the town spot that scum are hoping ends up helping them win, which I’m honestly liking where it is because this is the townQuick I know: the one I wanna PL as confirmed town. He’s not confirmed, but I’m happy with my read on him.

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Which means there’s a Nero Cain/Alchemist connection.

this is push town (Nero) bus buddy (Alch)

FL knows that I just called Alch out on his shit and he knows that he's going to flip scum. He's calling us scum together b/c he needs to try to claim that I was bussing.

I’m trying to lynch Rat.

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Alchemist can only be group scum, unless he just got infected.

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Alright, let’s lynch Rat.

Why?

Because rats spread the bubonic plague, are you gonna let them spread the coronavirus too?

I'm not interested in PL's at this stage of the game.

You’re the only one who’d be a PL.

It’s more of POE for me.

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Interesting. A Nero vs Alchemist.

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When the Rat is being pushed.

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Alright, let’s lynch Rat.

Why?

Because rats spread the bubonic plague, are you gonna let them spread the coronavirus too?

I'm not interested in PL's at this stage of the game.

You’re the only one who’d be a PL.

It’s more of POE for me.

You haven't even been reading the game... how do you manage to choose who to use your ability on if you are not reading?

I read the parts where I was near. I showed up near the end of every day phase, I believe.

I have been here for multiple parts every single day, I just missed a lot of the inner stuff.

I just targeted who I thought would be solid infection targets.

I told you A50 wasn’t N1 infected on Day 2.

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I see no one else really wanting to vote for Piss and I really don't know why...

Probably cuz he’s scum.

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VOTE: Pisskop

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The fact I can’t gain Rat momentum shows he’s likely scum, and Nero is chainsawing and distracting from it

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another reason I believe Nero to be scum and why I see what Quick’s saying is I would definitely claim infection proof as town.

I would definitely claim having been infected as scum.

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The fact I can’t gain Rat momentum shows he’s likely scum, and Nero is chainsawing and distracting from it

Dude there are like 5 people active rn? 3 including you who voted rat...

Exactly

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Rat, Nero, Pisskop is my solve right now. I’m probably not 100%.

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Clidd is infected.

Dave is probably infected.

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@LQ - who are your other scum reads?

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What makes you think Auro is infected, but not Alchemist?

My personal take is that if Alch was infected, it was early. I didn't like Alch's stance on Jake/Creature really.

My night 3 action confirms this not to be the case.

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I also get to cure Clidd tonight.

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i dont think we'll figure out if the scumteam is also infected until we lynch one of them.

Okay, this is what I was looking for. I am starting to buy Alch as Town.

This post makes Nahdia look a lot better as well. And given that, Nero looks a lot worse.

UNVOTE:

Nahdia is confirmed not group scum.

She’s infected. That’s Clidd slot, right?

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LQ left out Gobbledygook.

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So, I was doing some thinking during work.

I think the reporting benefits scum more than it benefits us. While it does tell us how many more scum there are to deal with, it gives scum the much more valuable information of whether their infection shot succeeded or not.

@Flavor Leaf:
Is it possible for you to choose not to make these reports, or is it automatic?

It’s automatic. Wouldn’t scum already know who the infected are?

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Alright, so either Alchemist and pisskop are Mafia together or conftown for now.

I'm leaning the town side of things for now, which would probably suggest you are as well.

Pisskop being cured also puts us at 9:6 instead of 8:7, which means we're in a slightly less precarious LyLo, since scum needs to infect to win toNight, not just kill.

Assuming FL's claim was also true, Clidd being cured toNight can hopefully offset the natural spread that's begun.

So that leaves five lynch candidates

I'm Town
FL is Town unless some reason to doubt the claim arises.
Alch, pisskop, Hoctac are all most probably Town.
Gobbledygook at least was Town before.
Nero and LQ both feel Town now, and while I was reading my predecessors' ISOs.
One more town slot exists, but I don't know who.
Clidd is Infected, but off limits to lynch toDay.

So that leaves Auro, Cheeky, Dave, Ari, Oka, and Firebringer unaccounted for.

VOTE: Firebringer while I sort the rest because I don't like the misrep on TSE's frustration.

This was a good post that is semi weakened by the follow up, but nonetheless I liked this.

Auro/Oka/Cheeky/Fire are all people under my suspicion, and Dave-Ari I’ve kind of forgotten about.

I actually feel Hoctac has potential scum equity based on Wagonomics yesterday.

I joined the Hoctac wagon at the end, and then immediately after A50 was killed.

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Actually, I think Auro/Clidd/Gobbledygook are people who are infected. Pisskop is probably group scum, possibly with Nero Cain.

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I changed my mind already. I’m kinda thinking outloud.

Gobb and Auro were the two to vote A50 after I voted Hoctac, and Pisskop was right there trying to say they should wagon me instead.

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I’m pretty sure Pisskop did signal to Auro actually

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alch might have been infected last night, but he started as town.

We wont lynch him, we need to lynch groupscum.

Actually, this implies Pisskop group scum, Alchemist infected.

I know for a fact Alchemist wasn’t infected pre Night 3 based on my targeting him, so this looks like PK trying to tell Alchemist he knows.

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I think youre probably town nero, theres no reason to be so abrasive. work with us

I dont think the replace outs were necessarily town.

I dont think cheeky is a real locktown after yesterday.

Keeping non infected open as mislynches.

And possibly trying to warlock a town Nero Cain. NC’s probably a likely infection candidate for the upcoming night.

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theres a case to be made that he was infected last night, maybe.

but again, I dont think that we should be trying to lynch infected. we need red groupscum

idk, alch is still scummy as shit. The RR push today and the misrep of my tri-case on oka, gobbles, nahdia was scummy as shit and I'm not sure if I'm willing to write it all off as "can't read very well"

Yeah, actually, I’d bet on Alchemist being infected.

Pisskop is protecting infected Alchemist.

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Hmm, Auro protected Cheeky a bit.

Cheeky, Pisskop group scum

Alchemist, Clidd, Auro infected

We might be at 7 scum, 3 group, 4 infected.

Gobbledygook is probably the dedicated mislynch so someone pushing there is probably scum.

Firebringer fits that, I think.

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I think Alchemist got infected Night 4.

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Pisskop knows it.

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Actually, Pisskop/FB are both on Auro. Maybe Auro is the mislynch.

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Rat and I were both pushing there, like I said earlier, I do believe Auro makes the most sense to have been pushed today.

We should lynch in Pisskop/Firebringer.

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He also voted Auro, he’s on the vote count as voting Auro.

And Radical was getting pushed earlier, so that’s likely another mislynch.

And they’re using Nero as well.

Radical, Nero, Auro likely not scum or infected.

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This is like playing Resistance almost.

Townies just have to essentially get to a place to be 100% correct end game.

LQ, Radical, Nero, Auro, FL

I’m pretty certain this is all not scum/infected.

Leaves

Pisskop, Firebringer, Gobb, Aristophanes, Hoctac, Alchemist, Okapoka, Clidd, cheekyteeky, dave

We know Clidd is infected. Alchemist is highly likely to be infected as well.

Pisskop
Firebringer
Gobb
Aristo
Hoctac
Okapoka
Cheeky
Dave

Of these 8, 3 are group scum, 2 are infected, meaning likely only 3 of these are town.

I’m pretty sure I’m at least close to correct

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If you wanna go even further, but slightly less certainty, I’d even be willing to put PK/FB as group scum, but i could be wrong here, but let’s say I’m not for now.

Gobb
Aristo
Hoctac
Okapoka
Cheeky
Dave

Of this 6, there’s at least 1 group scum, and probably 2 infected, unless FB is infected not group scum, which would make this have 1 infected.

3 of these are town. If Firebringer is town, 2 of these are town.

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Ill PL and possibly take a loss Flavor, dont start with the wacky shit

PK’s also been discrediting me for a few day phases now, which is why I believe he was setting up an eventual mislynch path on me as well, and considering I hadn’t been playing super consistently, that’s what scum try to do.

I’m willing to discuss, we don’t have to rush through anything.

I also have a cure tonight, which we can do on Clidd, so it also makes sense that you want me gone.

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Flavor, can you think of any particular reason for the infected Clidd scenario ? (Motivation)

Nahdia’s replacement made it feel safe probably. I’ll do some more research.

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I am sad to see nahdia go.

Because they were infected?

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hey so why are we all talking a claim that pisskop was infected at face value?

possibilities:

1) pisskop is infected, and is playing against his win condition
2) pisskop isn't infected, and is trolling as town
3) pisskop isn't infected, and is trying to evade a lynch as original mafia as well as wasting the night action of any hypothetical "curing" role

HHHMMMMMMMMMMM....

like I still really hate this post

hey so why are we all talking a claim that pisskop was infected at face value?

nahdia has to believe that gobble is lying here but nahdia has never expressed this (i think) so it seems like active lurking/fake dumb tell

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU DUMB FUCKING IDIOT. HOW HARD IS THIS TO GET THROUGH YOUR SKULL?

GOBBLES. TRACK. IS. NOT. A. HARD. GUILTY.

BLAIR WAS LIKELY KILLED BY BEING THE TARGET OF THE INFECTION THAT NIGHT.

THIS HAS BEEN EXPLAINED MULTIPLE TIMES OVER. HELL, I'VE SEEN YOU EXPLAIN IT. SO WHY ARE YOU IGNORING THAT FACTOR NOW?

CHRIST ON A FUCKING BIKE. I AM SO FUCKING DONE WITH YOUR DEATHTUNNEL. IT'S NOTHING BUT EGO-FUELED STUPIDITY.

They were trying to defend PK a lot.

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but fine. here's a readslist:

town: nero, flavor leaf, ari, alchemist, davesaz, oka, LQ,
meh: gobbledygook, a50, auro, hoctac, TSE, CheekyTeeky
scum: firebringer, pisskop,

so FTR, you think a50 is just trolling and it wasn't a scumclaim?

yes

Oh they were scum reading pisskop, not town reading. It looked like they were defending him in the later posts.

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why have you stopped doing read lists, nahdia?

because what good does it do? ill probably be wrong. and even if im not, we'll just end up lynching a lurker anyway.

BECAUSE THEY GOT INFECTED!!!!! Haha

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Auro isn’t really pushing for anything, and he’s willing to just backseat, but he’s still present. This is how he was for me when we were in a final 5/7 situation earlier this year, and just kind of town blocked, and as scum he pushes through multiple things, almost randomly.

He would be playing around me if he were scum, which he could be, but if he has, he’s done it well.

I was pushing him all game, and I feel like if he were scum, I’d be infected really early, but that’s why i wouldn’t be infected early, but I’d be infected by now if Auro were scum.

However, I did push the immunity angle, but ScumAuro would probably see right through that and try to infect me anyways.

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I feel that Nero is one of the three scum-base.

why?

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Ah, man...this looks like scumAristo. I just skimmed, though. I’ll look more into it and LQ when I get the chance.

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That sounds like a real possibility

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Yeah, my rock climbing gym opens up in a couple weeks, and I’m really curious how that’s gonna work...

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Also, @Aristo - Nahdia slot is confirmed infected

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Makes sense why she lost interest too tbh, and stopped doing reads lists

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Yeah, Alch is pretty clearly infected, I feel.

However, i think there’s a possibility that. Group scum try to come across as infected.

Cheeky fits the POE.

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This is going to be a hard day because half the game is infected or group scum. Infected players are going to be really passive so they don’t hit their team.

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Way too many people playing like infected for the number of slots

What do you mean, half the game is scum

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And group scum will be coming off as infected or null probably. One probably is in the town ranks, like a sneaky Nero.

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Cheeky, okapoka, gobs?

Alchemist, Clidd, Pisskop, Auro infected?

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I feel like maybe Dave is caught up in there somehow, i keep forgetting about hi

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I want Pisskop or Cheeky.
Maybe Firebringer. Settle for Gobs.

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I believe Auro, Alchemist, Clidd are all infected. Be careful conversing with them.

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Clidd is 100%, the other 2 aren’t certain, but like...yeah.

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Yeah, I remember thinking Cheeky was scum a few days ago cuz they made a weird comment calling me scum.

VOTE: Cheeky

Cheeky/Fire, then the last one is either Gobs or Pisskop.

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Ninja’d

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Why are Aristo/Dave getting a pass, actually? Either of them could be last infected, one group scum?

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I’m probably staying on Cheeky today. I’ve been leaning them a while, and PK seems to be trying to not have it, so it kind of checks all the marks for group scum. Firebringer seems to be in a muted position where if he posts he gets outed as scum just because he can’t really have genuine thoughts because he can’t defend himself

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VOTE: Cheeky

I feel like this is Clidd going “yes, this is the correct lynch”

But he can’t outright say it because he’s infected, but he will be town tomorrow.

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It makes sense if Gob is scum, I guess, because Cheeky essentially chainsawed Auro.

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just vote cheeky, theyve effectively scum who gave up.

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interesting.i forgot about Hoctac. definitely possible for group scum.

Hoctac/Cheeky can make sense.

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I feel like Gobbledy has town lying potential, and scum are taking advantage of it. tinfoil.

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actually, gobbledy is super anti that. hmm.

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cheeky's doing the same thing and i feel is blatantly obv scum at this point whereas you're speculating with gobb almost.

I feel you're defending Cheeky, and paired with your push on Auro earlier, I feel ylou have a group scum equit.y

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Clidd has bascially confirmed that he knows Cheeky is scum without breaking wincon. He's cured tomorrow.

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How would infected!Clidd could know that, Leafy? Infected don't know who the scum are.

why are you so sure about that?

If I were ever infected, I would 100% be looking for who scum is, and scum can easily ping him.

Cheeky is like lock scum, dude, even without that point.

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Cheeky is L-2 in a game with 6~7 scum. Does that suggest anything ?

it's why we cant lynch them. even the infected know Cheeky is scum.

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Hoctac is group scum or infected protecting Cheeky.

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i feel like cheeky is group scum, gobbles is infected, and scum are actively trying to pivot the lynch onto an infected over group scum toget another infected tonight.

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I don't care, Hoctac. I'm not wrong on Cheeky. Gobbles is the lynch scum want today.

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Hoctac is like blatantly scum right now too.

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Didn't people ask the mod? Signals are possible but risky, but have you looked through the Cheeky slot's ISO to spot any signals to clidd's slot? What if clidd is just infected who's happy to lynch someone he thinks isn't scum?

HE'S GETTING CURED TONIGHT WHY WOULD THIS EVER HAPPEN

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you are speaking without even knowing what's going on in the thread, which is incredibly scum indicative.

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you're out here specifically trying to stop a lynch from happening with zero good reason, without knowing anything going on.

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Unless NC is group scum, Cheeky is scum here.

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then you didnt check hard enough.

because i clearly stated the chainsaw on Auro.

this entire day phase also.

gamestate.

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the political positioning earlier day phases.

the pop in, pop out, not doing anything day play today.

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Hoctac is attempting to hatchet me.

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if you wanna get more advanced, we can even look into Voted.

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Who was she protecting with the chainsaw?

HER INFECTED TARGET GOBBLE

[Flavor Leaf]

Gobbledygook is xlearly infected. You can literally see infected people in their play.

clidd, Alchemist, Gobble are all infected. Cheeky is group scum. FB slot probably group scum. Hoctac probably group scum. Pisskop can sub in for one of them.

[Flavor Leaf]

vote Cheeky.

[Flavor Leaf]

Original scum chainsawed to protect an infected? They need to go to those lengths to save expendable infected. I don't think that's a great case, m8.

I'm not even confident on Cheeky being not scum, I just don't see where this massive confidence comes from.

My prediction is Cheeky was infected last night since she was solving the last day phase, but now doesn't seem to care.

sigh. I'm gonna PL you in a second, and hopefully you just flip scum.

Alchemist was infected last night because he wasn't infected pre N3, and right now he's obv infected.

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Original scum chainsawed to protect an infected? They need to go to those lengths to save expendable infected. I don't think that's a great case, m8.

I'm not even confident on Cheeky being not scum, I just don't see where this massive confidence comes from.

My prediction is Cheeky was infected last night since she was solving the last day phase, but now doesn't seem to care.

she doesnt care because we caught her, and Clidd is infected who will be cured tonight.

[Flavor Leaf]

this is literally where I shine. Late game solving.

[Flavor Leaf]

i'm probably not 100% correct, but I have pieces together, and Cheeky is scum based on wagonomics, positioning, chainsaw, lack of activity this day phase, and going from town reading me earlier to pushing me as scum out of nowhere and I made a comment on it but I forgot who it was that said something I didn't like that tilted me out for a second, and it was CheekyTeeky.

[Flavor Leaf]

1 track, not sure where to post, fake confidence, confusion, different from usual is infected.

You're also obv infected.

[Flavor Leaf]

Gobb was a claimed PR early. He's 100% infected.

[Flavor Leaf]

Day 5 begins!

An anonymous reporter reports that

two

new infections occurred during the night.

The sun rises once more, and the mayor begins the daily Zoom call. "I've received another report on the virus, and the details are more shocking than one would believe!" exclaims the mayor. "Indeed, it states that not one, but two (!) new infections occurred during the night!" Another person shouts, "If nothing is done, the entire town will be infected!" Eventually everyone calms down, but one thing is for sure: the town is teetering close to the brink of death.

Wait, there were two new infections last night.

Honestly, worst case scenario killing Cheeky is they flip infected.

I'm trying to solve the game now because everyone in this game knows I'm getting infected tonight.

[Flavor Leaf]

"Twice per game, mafia may kill any player that they choose. Aside from those two instances, mafia possess the ability to factionally infect a player and to kill an infected player each night."

actually forgot this was a thing, I'm probably getting killed tonight.

[Flavor Leaf]

Thing is, you've claimed infection immune vaccinator + anonymous reporter or whatever a while ago, and you're still not dead.

Scum used 1 kill on Mastina. Blair in theory died by visiting infected. So they should have 1 left.

can you stiop being surface level? the infection immune was obvfake.

[Flavor Leaf]

Uggggghhhhh....

LQ can you vote Cheeky. I'm surrounded by infected players.

[Flavor Leaf]

scum is literally playing in a way to drive me crazy and make me tilt.

[Flavor Leaf]

I literally had my worst scum game ever partnered up with Cheeky because they shut down when targeted.

Actually, I played well that game, it was just a town stomp, though.

I know what ScumCheeky looks like and this is it.

[Flavor Leaf]

like I said, worst case scenario, they are infected.

[Flavor Leaf]

literally ignore Gobbles. He's infected.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, I figured that could be true. You claimed too many abilities.

So Flavor Leaf could easily have been infected last night if scum called his bluff. He could've been infected on any of the previous nights too and retained his abilities. Don't know why infected!him would admit the infection-immune thing was a lie, but might be because it'd look scummy if he didn't, because that's way too many abilities.

I don't know. I'm just worried this is like a finish line is in sight lynch on Cheeky, and scum have majority tomorrow. Might just be unnecessarily paranoid.

I PMed the mod and the kill can only be used at night btw.

it is. Scum will begin to lose with Cheeky.

Scum don't call my bluff ever because I have been stating I will claim if I ever did.

Also, I HATE rolling scum, in what world do I ever lurk out the entire game as town only to come in after I get infected of all things.

I come in late game to solve.

[Flavor Leaf]

Hoctac is group scum. Lynch that after Cheeky.

[Flavor Leaf]

Gobbledygook actively moved off of Hoctac yesterday after I voted Hoctac and onto A50.

He was protecting groupscum Hoctac.

[Flavor Leaf]

it is. Scum will begin to lose with Cheeky

What about counterwagons? Or are they just hoping that it'll die down if there's no counterwagon

who are they gonna kill? half of them don't know who each other are. I'm positive infected know like 1 or 2 scum each for sure. Not sure if they know each other.

[Flavor Leaf]

If you lynch me we lose. I'm uninfected town.

Auro saying I'm OG scum after TMI townreading me on my entrance is obviously scum. FL trying to lynch anyone who votes Auro is lol. FL either infected or scum.

This is how Auro has approached my slot:

1. Had no opinion and no reaction to my initial vote on him and was barely active.
2. Townread me after I was obviously playing to my town meta, gave weak reasoning though which was followed up by him reinforcing the read on me after I changed my read on him to a townread.
3. Is now calling me OG scum.

The progression is unnatural. I suspected him from the start and then pushed everyone else trying to sort players and now he's getting away with murder. I also believe Nero is suspect but not as scummy as Auro.

Why would we lose?

[Flavor Leaf]

Auro is my town block. We always late game town block.

You're just mad because your mislynch path got wrecked.

[Flavor Leaf]

FL can go suck an egg. You don't know shit about me.

I have played multiple games with you, including having to try super hard to save you from being lynched, which I couldn't do.

I have played as scum vs town you. I have played as town vs scum you.

I play a lot of Mafia.

There is zero % chance you can say that without it being a lie.

[Flavor Leaf]

you are speaking without even knowing what's going on in the thread, which is incredibly scum indicative.

This is rhetoric.

it may or may not be based in fact, but it is 100% underhanded either way.

I get this thrown in my face constantly, I hard disagree. It is completely okay to call people out like that. I even gave a chance for so long.

Like I said, Pisskop/Cheeky are the scum team with Hoctac/FB possibilities.

[Flavor Leaf]

Its It's possible scum reach parity tonight. It's obvious you're scumsiding FL if anyone listens to your spam after days of lurking they can blame themselves for the loss. Like wtf is my plan as scum? Mislynch A50 then act super suspect? Oh please.

What is MY plan as scum? Scum me establishes early dominance in games. You've been hatcheting and discrediting me since you got into this game as soon as you realized you werent gonna pocket me successfully.

[Flavor Leaf]

what slip

[Flavor Leaf]

FL can go suck an egg. You don't know shit about me.

I have played multiple games with you, including having to try super hard to save you from being lynched, which I couldn't do.

I have played as scum vs town you. I have played as town vs scum you.

I play a lot of Mafia.

There is zero % chance you can say that without it being a lie.

Wow so you defended me as scum once a year ago and now you think this is my scumgame? If you were telling the truth you would know without a doubt this is not my scumgame. Also we won that game thanks to you but it looks like the win has gone to your head and you can't see how bad your scumgame has become.

My scum game is on another level actually right now. I've already won 5-6 scum games this year, so Idk what you're talking about.

And that was 1 game i mentioned.

This is a careful misrep onto me, because I clearly stated multiple games i've played with you.

And honestly, I dont even give a fuck about meta, so let's drop all the meta shit. You're still scum, and you HAVE to push me here because I've solved this game.

I have called you and Pisskop out for a while now, and you're last ditch effort is to come after me.

It's not a coincidence both of you started posting at once.

[Flavor Leaf]

I've literally been stating Pisskop/Cheeky scum team. Alchemist is infected and has been protecting Pisskop, honestly, I could see Alch not knowing Cheeky is scum, to be fair.

Gobbledygook is infected, and can be pushed for some town cred and to get rid of me. This is exactly how scum take me out of games.

[Flavor Leaf]

Your scumgame sucks you're as transparent now as a 4 year old kid telling me they didn't just break something. I'm done arguing with loudmouth scum who have no case just yelling at the top of their voice to get a mislynch through.

The wagon got up before this started. I'm just loudmouthing your people defending you.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Pisskop - Gobbledy is infected, i'm not arguing that he's town.

[Flavor Leaf]

Your scumgame sucks you're as transparent now as a 4 year old kid telling me they didn't just break something. I'm done arguing with loudmouth scum who have no case just yelling at the top of their voice to get a mislynch through.

Cheeky is literally doing the textbook definition of OMGUS. That's their whole thing.

And it's because they can't actually fight me because they know I'm correct.

[Flavor Leaf]

Cheeky gets to L-2:

No one else votes there
Suddenly some slots wake up and start active posting
Cheeky comes back to thread, doesn't read the thread, tries to case me
Pisskop jumps at the opportunity when I ask cheeky to vote Gobbles

I don't need to read the thread to state how your behavior and reads towards me have no proper progression. Yeah I'd be panicking too since my wagon stalled before you could lynch me without a fight.

this is why it's a town Auro. Auro just had a master 3rd party win as scum not too long ago, he's not weak scum.

Cheeky is scum for the chainsaw, political positioning, the pop in pop out, the coincidental timing of them coming into this game same time as Pisskop, the constant hatcheting, and the fact that the confirmed infected player who is getting cured tonight knows they are scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Gobb is confirmed infected.

[Flavor Leaf]

Thank fucking god.

Gobbledy, if you're infected, claim it, and I'll cure you.

[Flavor Leaf]

unless that was you claiming it.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, i was totally infected.

[Flavor Leaf]

I got infected Night 3.

[Flavor Leaf]

Oh, it was night 4, my bad. Only part of my role i was telling the truth about was my cure, which I could do a night after.

You can just lynch me. I really don’t care about this game.

The report is not mine, so look into who was blindly believing it to see if they were faking it

[Flavor Leaf]

I get to cure myself*

And that’s it.

[Flavor Leaf]

Gobs probably scum who was faking infected yesterday.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Gobb

I’m not going to be here today, by the way.

[Flavor Leaf]

Well, the good news is we apparently weren't in LyLo, or even MyLo.
The bad news, there's almost no way we aren't now.

I think it's time to massclaim, list all night actions performed, and hopefully we can solve from there.
I've already claimed VT, so no actions there.

Either Nero or Auto next please.

Just saying, I switched halfway through yesterday because I thought this guy was group scum, so I stopped pushing him.

[Flavor Leaf]

Called it. Gobsie is probably scum and Leafy is WIFOMing by voting him? Unless he's playing against wincon.

I mean, if you know me at all, this is never my scum game. I am the most consistent scum player on site, and I’ve been anything but consistent this game

It’s whatever.

I’m done with Mafia for now.

[Flavor Leaf]

Just post game, people will see how blatantly town I’ve been

[Flavor Leaf]

I am the most consistent scum player on site

This is a lie. I believe that

I

am the most consistent scum player on site.

Not in play wise, in speaking wise.

I actively choose not to play the same way as scum, but my biggest weakness as scum is that I am too consistent and everything adds up TOO well.

[Flavor Leaf]

And I’m just spreading factual truth on that end, not an opinion.

[Flavor Leaf]

I finally got my hard bus my whole team, then win the game in 3p lylo victory I’ve wanted. I’ve done all there is to do.

[Flavor Leaf]

I had my fantastic town solves multiple times this year, so i don’t actually care too much about solving this game.

I’ve just lost the fire. I gotta make it bigger, maybe some film mafia league i need to run next, idk.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Hoctac - you were clearly town to me yesterday, by the way.

Look back at yesterday and look who’s reacting to me with the knowledge that I was infected, and literally had no clue about anything. I was just spouting random shit to see what stuckbecause I knew I could cure myself.

[Flavor Leaf]

I finally got my hard bus my whole team, then win the game in 3p lylo victory I’ve wanted. I’ve done all there is to do.

What about the hard bussing each other and getting called a TvT and then winning in lylo?

Eh, this was won a long time ago. That’s pretty average. I win a lot of perfect scum games

[Flavor Leaf]

I finally got my hard bus my whole team, then win the game in 3p lylo victory I’ve wanted. I’ve done all there is to do.

Can you bus your partners now? We'll all promise not to vote you in LyLo.

Trying to. Radical Rat I literally moved off of after thinking he was group scum, so interesting that people seemed to just ignore the fact i didn’t explain it ever, and gobbledygook looks like he was claiming infected

[Flavor Leaf]

@Hoctac - you were clearly town to me yesterday, by the way.

Look back at yesterday and look who’s reacting to me with the knowledge that I was infected, and literally had no clue about anything. I was just spouting random shit to see what stuckbecause I knew I could cure myself.

What did you think Cheeky/Gobsie were then? Were you still playing to scum wincon even though you knew you could cure yourself?

Nah, I was just doing fuck all tunnel trying to end the day as fast as I could.

I didn’t know what Cheeky would flip.

Gobb is clearly something, infected or group scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

I also didn’t want anyone crying in post game I wasn’t playing to wincon

[Flavor Leaf]

Self meta is Scummy...

Saying self meta is scummy is scummy because it’s hard NAI.

Especially when your favorite thing to talk about is yourself (talking about me)

[Flavor Leaf]

I've pretty much lost all respect for FL's play since he doesn't do anything until LyLo.

Oh yeah, I’ve stopped caring about Mafia. It’s unfortunate.

I did well in Animals U-pick recently, if you wanna check that one out.

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s a scum game.

I was one of the most active posters every day phase.

Honestly, on top of being burnt off mafia, and that insane scum game, this game does not hit for me.

Don’t like the design, appreciate it for what it was, and maybe post game I’ll think differently.

[Flavor Leaf]

ofc i am still here.
snoooreeeee

See he gets me

[Flavor Leaf]

I won’t be here today, just so you guys know

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m here.

Nothing’s changed.

Kill Radical Rat tomorrow.

[Flavor Leaf]

gob, lq, rat group scum team.

[Flavor Leaf]

gob, lq, rat group scum team.

I pretty much don't give a single shit what you say at this point because you are ObvScum.

k, you're wrong if you're town, but pig headed as ever. if scum, then this makes sense.

All you can do is discredit.

[Flavor Leaf]

gobbledygook claimed infected end of yesterday. there's like zero chance he's plain town here. he tried getting cured by me.

[Flavor Leaf]

gob, lq, rat group scum team.

I pretty much don't give a single shit what you say at this point because you are ObvScum.

k, you're wrong if you're town, but pig headed as ever. if scum, then this makes sense.

All you can do is discredit.

You've never seen me as Scum so shut it. You don't have the slightest clue how I play as Scum.

I literally don't care about meta.

[Flavor Leaf]

meta is complimentary. You're just trying discredit after discredit because you're about to lose a scummate, and it's going all downhill for you.

[Flavor Leaf]

pretty sure someone else claimed to be healed, but i could be misremembering.

[Flavor Leaf]

i dont need to case you. ill anti case everyone else.

[Flavor Leaf]

i dont need to case you. ill anti case everyone else.

It's honestly super obvious you are Scum at this point, dude. You just sat back and did nothing all game then come in in LyLo and try and win the game by having the whole Scum team voting one person to win it. Pretty obvious at this point. Otherwise Healer would have died earlier, but they didn't actually know he was healer yet.

thats why it's obvious im not scum here tbh

[Flavor Leaf]

Unsure how Gobbles, who has legitmately claimed scum/infected multiple times, is being this blatantly protected.

[Flavor Leaf]

i dont need to case you. ill anti case everyone else.

It's honestly super obvious you are Scum at this point, dude. You just sat back and did nothing all game then come in in LyLo and try and win the game by having the whole Scum team voting one person to win it. Pretty obvious at this point. Otherwise Healer would have died earlier, but they didn't actually know he was healer yet.

thats why it's obvious im not scum here tbh

Not really because I'm pretty much the only one throwing mud at you at this point. One other person (I think Oka) expressed interest in lynching you. Right now I'd rather lynch Ari as I have wanted to lynch that slot for most of the game and ran into heavy resistance there at all stages of the game.

also the person who knows me the least.

[Flavor Leaf]

LQ/Oka think both are group scum or one infected?

Oka makes sense as infected, because I dont believe he should ever legitimately think I'm scum here. and itfeels like he's just piggybacking.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Oka - i will flip town, and Gobble will flip scum, and once again, I will prove my town superiority.

[Flavor Leaf]

i've just outgrown mafia at this level. No interest in playing, and it shows.

[Flavor Leaf]

alright, i dont care anymore