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In post 1373, GuiltyLion wrote:I used to have a surefire tell on S_S where if he scumread me he was town, but that stopped working as of late when he townread me as scum
Lmao, amazingIn post 1374, GuiltyLion wrote:wait no I just read that back and I'm an idiot and I should have had him"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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Well yeah, exactly? Why are we using it on a solo invest when we could be adding one extra? It’s also partly because I still think datisi is town and I think moment is townIn post 1404, GuiltyLion wrote:
uhh, what? If notscience flips town it guarantees we find the scum in the other twoIn post 1399, Menalque wrote:I think that’s a waste if notscience flips town probably
VOTE: notscience
Hmm, actually yeah, you have a point in that moment is probably more town than dats"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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ErrIn post 1409, maxwell wrote:I think notscience probably doesn't pitch as huge a fit yesterday knowing he's about to be caught as scum
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This is literally losing if you think about it for more than like 5 secondsIn post 1415, Radical Rat wrote:Okay, absolutely bonkers idea here, buuuut
Iconeum/NK15/notscience scumteam.
Unless this is a memepost in which case, ehh 3/10"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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?In post 1422, Something_Smart wrote:I don't see what was towny about Moment if NK is town.
Is this like GL’s logic or something else?
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This is like, broadly the opposite of what I thinkIn post 1428, maxwell wrote:I think NK15 looks a lot worse on a notscience scum flip than he does on a moment scumflip."we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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Whereas scum!moment wouldn’t defend scum!NK because..?In post 1429, Something_Smart wrote:I mean if NK is town. It's not exactly GL's logic just I don't see why scum-Moment would not defend town-NK like that."we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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Literally a page ago my dudeIn post 1454, GuiltyLion wrote:Moment would be a better lynch, I have the same feeling as whoever it was (Menalque?) who was saying their memory of Moment yesterday was v town"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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This. Icon could be doing some big brain thing maybe but this is like by far the most likely thing imoIn post 1453, Alisae wrote:you also don't understand how bad icon is with mechanics"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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Okay so like
Hmm
Icon
RR, username, GL
NK15, umlaut
Moment, datisi (I probably technically TR them a bit more but given the mechplay it’s making me a little more dubious and open to just being wrong)
Maxwell
S_S
Titus, ali
Hel
Norwee
Notscience
Is where I’m at p much
I don’t do much as actively scumresd the bottom three is much as I just feel like I have more reasons to TR the others
Is it too much to hope that all the scum are in the bottom 3? Almost certainly, but seeing as how we only need to hit 2 across 4 lynches I feel okay with it. If notscience flips town i need to reconsider the way the whole game is going because I’m totally wrong on one of datisi/moment and that means I’m probably wrong in a bunch of other ways based on believing my interactions with them have been in good faith"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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If notscience is scum, which I’m putting as “likely” given that I’m townreading you + datisi and I don’t think Icon is suicidal enough to dictate the pool and then put the TD in, then it looks to me like when notscience was coming under pressure, a counterwagon went up on umlaut that was then diverted onto NK15 once the fakeclaim shenanigans happened and he was an easier target"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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It was partly that, partly a general lack of feeling like his posting was coming from town. But a lot of it rn is that I think datisi and moment both had much townier D1s and there is confirmed scum in those 3
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Ehh, idk, I think it’s often at least +town even if it shouldn’t mean locktown, and it didn’t really feel like it was competing scumwagons. Although, honestly, I almost feel like the smaller scumteam give the size of the game almost works against town because it’s harder for them to exercise control of the game/manipulate it overall, so correspondingly it’s harder to spot where that’s happening"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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This seems like a bad idea, because, again, TDIn post 1545, Titus wrote:Unless you think all 3 are scum, we need to investigate a new pool today."we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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This is such a terrible fuckin take dude, oh my godIn post 1547, Not Known 15 wrote:There might be actually two scum here. Moment and Datisi. Others have already said that Datisi isnt doing their town play, and in addition to that reaction to be in that pool there`s also Moment`s whiteknighting(of myself), notably before the pool was announced. In contrast, notscience looks more like LHF to me. That`s why I`d like to have a lynch on Moment and an investigation on Datisi(or the other way around), but that`s obviously something that doesnt help us that much - in fact something that HURTS us - if I am wrong about the number of scum here.
I know datisi better than anyone else here and I’m telling u all she’s town and u should listen to me
I’m putting my freakin reputation on the line for this one"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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But then again he did fakeclaim PA because he ~*thought I’d seriously slipped as PA and spewed datisi as TD*~
Which I’d obviously never do right guys haha
And definitely wouldn’t soft anything to Icon based on that game where I fake CC’d him lol
To get him to claim PA to give cover to me having accidentally outed datisi as TD haha
But overall I guess if NK15 was willing to believe that OBVIOUS fakeclaim from me maybe him having Bad Takes(tm) is just him being town
Need to reread what moment said
@dats nah i didnt reread anything yet
If you have a PT can you just spew whatever you’re posting there here instead so everyone can see you’re town and stop saying silly thing about mislynching you"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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Have you... have you read the setup?In post 1558, Titus wrote:
How would it be game if it's those two? We're having enough problems wagoning Notty.In post 1554, Menalque wrote:(Notscience, norwee, ?)
Although actually if those two are right then it’s game and hopefully it ends early enough that the TD hasn’t been caught"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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No there fucking shouldn’t beIn post 1583, NorwegianboyEE wrote:There should be more votes on Datisi."we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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Yes because everyone is always oh so terrified of me that they won’t push anyone I’m townreadingIn post 1584, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I think people are afraid to push Datisi purely because Mena vouches for them.
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There are not more votes on datisi, I would hope, because of the pool datisi is a dumb fucking place to vote given that notscience is also in there"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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What the shit does this even mean? How is it giving towncred she doesn’t deserve when I explain specifically why I think she’s towny this game?In post 1583, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Specifically, is giving towncredit to Datisi where it's not due."we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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What about this does she “not deserve” then norwee? I’m waitingIn post 1021, Menalque wrote:I don’t think datisi has done things that should make someone unfamiliar with her TR her, but I think her recent meta has been towards the way she’s playing this game i.e. a bit checked out, and I’ve incorrectly scumread her for it the last couple of games we’ve played. I’m townreading her because I think a couple of the posts she’s made are very natural in the way she’s interacted with me in a way that I’m still not sold she does well as scum. Also, she’s rolled town like, a lot, and to memory her most recent scumgame she was actually much more active and enthusiastic than in her recent towngames."we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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Sorry, I’m putting openwolfs on ignore hope you understand uwuIn post 1586, notscience wrote:Lmaokai"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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Hmm I wonder why that might beIn post 1590, Datisi wrote:norwee, why are you still pushing me for NAI reasons? like this morning you ask about it, find out it's NAI and been going on for multiple games for me, and then just ignore it ???
Norwee looking for NAI reasons to make a shitwagon on you to divert from notscience?
Huh, I have no explanation for what that might be in this heavily bus disincentivised setup
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In post 1598, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
It's all just personal bias and no real logic reasoning behind it worthy of sheeping. Essentially your opinion on Datisi's slot is not worth considering if what i'm getting at.In post 1589, Menalque wrote:
What about this does she “not deserve” then norwee? I’m waitingIn post 1021, Menalque wrote:I don’t think datisi has done things that should make someone unfamiliar with her TR her, but I think her recent meta has been towards the way she’s playing this game i.e. a bit checked out, and I’ve incorrectly scumread her for it the last couple of games we’ve played. I’m townreading her because I think a couple of the posts she’s made are very natural in the way she’s interacted with me in a way that I’m still not sold she does well as scum. Also, she’s rolled town like, a lot, and to memory her most recent scumgame she was actually much more active and enthusiastic than in her recent towngames.
In post 1599, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Moment is town and i think NS's reaction to pressure was towny. They're not even fighting really, why would scum do that? They're town giving up. As for you i'm getting lurk!scum vibes. Only showing up when it's convenient today, not even voting. Very passive, etc.In post 1590, Datisi wrote:norwee, why are you still pushing me for NAI reasons? like this morning you ask about it, find out it's NAI and been going on for multiple games for me, and then just ignore it ???"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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In post 1601, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Whatever you say dude.In post 1592, Menalque wrote:
Hmm I wonder why that might beIn post 1590, Datisi wrote:norwee, why are you still pushing me for NAI reasons? like this morning you ask about it, find out it's NAI and been going on for multiple games for me, and then just ignore it ???
Norwee looking for NAI reasons to make a shitwagon on you to divert from notscience?
Huh, I have no explanation for what that might be in this heavily bus disincentivised setup
No idea whatsoever why he might do that
Why would i even bother protecting scum!NS to this extent when it's obvious they'd get lynched tommorow if NS flips scum, and then me immediately afterwards. You think i'm such a shit scum player i'd make it that clear-cut?Spoiler:
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There are a clean 5-6 people who would be willing to 1v1 me in this PL if they were sold on datisi!scum I’d say
None of them are doing it, so it’s not because they don’t wanna 1v1 me over her, it’s because they agree
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I don’t care that much about this and am kind of okay with him leading on itIn post 1625, Datisi wrote:yes but we still have to agree on the investigation shipping stuff
I don’t think we should invest more than 5 people probably though
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All game, to be clearIn post 1630, Menalque wrote:I don’t think we should invest more than 5 people probably though"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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Arf arf! GrrrrrIn post 1628, NorwegianboyEE wrote:It's not bullying, they've got an rabid attack dog hounding me every step of the way. He's biting me in the legs right now."we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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Woof! Woof woof! Grrrrrrowl!In post 1636, Something_Smart wrote:
It was a genuine question. What exactly do you think people are afraid of?In post 1634, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Yeah thanks, you're real insightful SS.
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