Redneck Mafia GAME OVER PARTNER!

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*ribbits

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today I learned chkflip was a soldier

good on you chk, I should change my vote because that's towny

VOTE: Vecna

And your treatment of the replace in was applying too much pressure and kinda hostile, so that's not towny considering Thun might be discouraged from playing the game

Unlike Thun I won't be claiming prematurely.

You will have to put me in the tent because my role is prime for checking, flipping, and eliminating.

I'm a little confused about who claimed and what roles, it sounds like 3 vig claims? Also, I was looking at some of temps quotes and I get bad vibes from these three. The first and third could be out of context but the second one just seems weird.

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TL can I have your claim?

Did someone ask for their claim before this post?

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You already said you have a prime role, what is the point in waiting if mafia will already see you as a target?

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second, claiming the role seems to make it more difficult to win,

I think it’s easier for me to just ask for help rather than hope I can bait Night Actions my way. There’s a lot of positive Town utility to my role. I can confirm a claim by making them target me and seeing if I get a 1-shot copy of their ability, and at the cost of losing a Town action on one Night we can double up that action on another Night which would be extremely useful in PoE situations.

Damn Alch claimed 3p before I can get here.

Tell you what friend, I'll claim too to make it more interesting and see if I can test your metal.

I got a 1-shot vig, so I'll use it on you and you become a survivor with a gun. How's that sound?

Did this happen? I believe that Thun was telling the truth that they can kill at night but I'm not sure if that necessarily makes them town aligned, the game has to be somewhat fair and so far we have had a cop that could not be detectable and a jail keeper that could have saved people, I could see a 1-shot vig being on the town team but an even-night vig seems a bit too much for an already strong town team.

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So you are going with EJ because it is harder to get flip elim'd but you think they are a powerful scum role, am I interpreting that correctly?

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I was about to place a vote on elsa, you no longer think they are a team with chk?

You said that they were giving elsa a pass even though they didn't do the same to others who played similarly, they could say that they are masons so chk would have known that they were town but that wouldn't seem to be the case because he claimed that he would kill who ever visited him.

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Honestly just mostly going off of other people's reads for this one.

VOTE: TL

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VOTE: Froppy

Maybe you shouldnt do that after you just replace in and it puts the slot as the likely lynch for the day

Should I have kept the slot too clean? That seemed like one of the slots negative points.

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Oh wait disregard that post.
When I was hoping there was 2 extra pages and turns out there isn’t.
:/.

Why would the amount of pages change what you were thinking?

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Provisionally based on claims going the way I assume they will go, this is roughly where I'm at.

Bingle
DrippingGoofball
Thun
PookyTheMagicalBear
Elsa Jay
Froppy
Titus
Galron
Vecna
Logicalicaltist

Alchemist21

So you also believe I’m scum?
Yeah great.

I guess I should have expected Scum to put me in this position after the TL Flip.

Probably going to ISO TL later.
Probably can’t defend myself out of this one but I can at least go on the aggressive and make Reads and solves and stuff.

How did scum put you in this position?

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Why would mafia reflect it back to A50 and expose their entire plan with that cookie thing?

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I can prove I am town because of my role, should I explain how I can prove my self rn or is no one else buying this?

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I'm just confirming something with the mod but I probably should have just asked in here.

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Actually, I have a question for anyone, what are the chances that there is a mafia role cop? My idea might not work depending on the answer.

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That has nothing to do with why my role would prove I am town.

But I would think that a mafia role cop would be possible because everyone has a role, but I've never been in one of these so I'm not sure.

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I can talk about anything on my role card as long as I don't quote it?

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Cool, I'm a VT but it has a different name like all the other roles that have flipped. If there is another VT in the game then they can confirm me.

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So named townie? Or does it specifically just call you a normie with no abilities?

More like how Jailkeeper and vengeful had different names

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Vanilly Hillbilly

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How did you make the selection of what to read?

Sounds to me like Froppy went and informed you in scumchat of us figuring the shit out.

I’m a team player what can I say

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Vanilly Hillbilly

If that's true, you were told that you have two things. What are they?

It was specifically my daily vote, and my voice.

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Floppy if you haven’t done so please claim your flavor.

The belt buckles distract from your disappointing groin.

The only thing I haven't shared is this and my name which I don't think matters at all, not exactly sure what flavor is.

Floppy!

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Floppy if you haven’t done so please claim your flavor.

The belt buckles distract from your disappointing groin.

The only thing I haven't shared is this and my name which I don't think matters at all, not exactly sure what flavor is.

Floppy!

Name is what I’m after. It probably doesn’t matter, but please humor me.

I don't feel comfortable sharing that because I'm not sure how to paraphrase it.

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Mason Barber

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The thing I don't understand right now is why elsa is still fine with me dying but only if I am the last from the group from vecnas theory.

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The thing I don't understand right now is why elsa is still fine with me dying but only if I am the last from the group from vecnas theory.

What’s your current read on Elsa?

They sound like goo

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VOTE: Logic

E-2

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No

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Between Titus and Froppy that's two sketchy players on the wagon.

How likely do you think it is that logic flips green?

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It's been so tempting to lolhammer

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I think that it is almost poe so if this is the route people want to take then I think we should quit stalling.

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I'm not really sure how to contribute rn I guess if anyone has questions I can answer.

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I'm not really sure how to contribute rn I guess if anyone has questions I can answer.

Who is better between Ochako or Momo?

Fumikage obviously

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Yeah it is. But so far no town has visited me.

So did someone who wasn't town visit you?

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I was so excited that I thought I caught something that I didn't really think about how you would be dead right now.

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Thanks pookums!

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Who is actually townreading Galron and why?

I was thinking that it seems too obvious right? From my perspective I think that everyone else who interacted with me had a good intention that was town motivated (ie. elsa, bingle, vecna), at least from the list of people who are not confirmed.

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So two thoughts come to mind, would Galron go for pooky and why? Why is pooky in your scum pool but not DGB?

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I guess this is better than no lynch, but I really haven't had the time to get comfortable yet.

VOTE: Icerint

VOTE: Lavender

Let's make it interesting.

VOTE: Gobble

VOTE: Lavender

Time's running out.

Galron and Elsa both have made votes that were not explained. These quotes above are examples and I'm asking here what made you guys vote these players since they were not explained. I see that you both have been hopping on wagons on day 1, day 2, and day 3.

I'm going to kind of defend Elsa here I guess without looking at the actual votes and say that this is lame. Day 1 of a large is a free for all. No one knows anything for sure except their own role. I'm pretty sure when I repped in we were under deadline pressure, and Iecerint and Lavender both were decent wagons, although wrong. I unvoted Iecerint to vote Lavender to tie them up if I recall correctly. Both wagons were wrong. That means, what, exactly?

I don't think I understand what this is trying to say or prove

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I guess this is better than no lynch, but I really haven't had the time to get comfortable yet.

VOTE: Icerint

VOTE: Lavender

Let's make it interesting.

VOTE: Gobble

VOTE: Lavender

Time's running out.

Galron and Elsa both have made votes that were not explained. These quotes above are examples and I'm asking here what made you guys vote these players since they were not explained. I see that you both have been hopping on wagons on day 1, day 2, and day 3.

I'm going to kind of defend Elsa here I guess without looking at the actual votes and say that this is lame. Day 1 of a large is a free for all. No one knows anything for sure except their own role. I'm pretty sure when I repped in we were under deadline pressure, and Iecerint and Lavender both were decent wagons, although wrong. I unvoted Iecerint to vote Lavender to tie them up if I recall correctly. Both wagons were wrong. That means, what, exactly?

You said day 1 of a large is a free for all and I don't know what you mean by this.

Is it bad that I kind of get town vibes from it. I don't see scum!galron defending elsa when Galron is under the gun.

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Why not? Do you think Galron's defense is going to convince anyone. More importantly, do you think Galron thinks his defense is going to convince anyone?

I don't, and if he was scum I see his easiest miselim being Elsa.

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I kinda want to vote Vecna even if there's a decent chance he is the townbeard. He defended both scum lynches and now he's all protesting as if pinned down.

Im just trying to find the last scum, as you tried to claim you would.

But keep voting me even though you know im town.

I still haven't read most of the game so could you show me town stuff that you have done that.

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The thing I don't understand right now is why elsa is still fine with me dying but only if I am the last from the group from vecnas theory.

Because I like Tsuyu and your PFP makes me happy. So keeping you till last sounds fun.

I keep going back to this, I think that everyone knows that I have a small amount of experience when it comes to mafia so part of me is questioning whether this was an attempt to pocket and save a bad player for the end so I won't vote for them or if it is just nothing and they just didn't want me dead.

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The thing I don't understand right now is why elsa is still fine with me dying but only if I am the last from the group from vecnas theory.

Because I like Tsuyu and your PFP makes me happy. So keeping you till last sounds fun.

I keep going back to this, I think that everyone knows that I have a small amount of experience when it comes to mafia so part of me is questioning whether this was an attempt to pocket and save a bad player for the end so I won't vote for them or if it is just nothing and they just didn't want me dead.

I don't get it, who is scum in there?

I am questioning elsas reason for keeping me alive, did me being around really make them happy or was there some ulterior motivation.

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Possibly, as someone who did change their vote what made you go for logic?

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The thing I don't understand right now is why elsa is still fine with me dying but only if I am the last from the group from vecnas theory.

Because I like Tsuyu and your PFP makes me happy. So keeping you till last sounds fun.

I keep going back to this, I think that everyone knows that I have a small amount of experience when it comes to mafia so part of me is questioning whether this was an attempt to pocket and save a bad player for the end so I won't vote for them or if it is just nothing and they just didn't want me dead.

This happened on day 3 when you had votes. You said Elsa is fine with you dying and even though he wanted you dead he voted Logical instead of you. I find this strange scum would vote their buddy instead of a player they wanted dead and in a situation like this I could think of would mean they saw their buddy as a lost cause or they did this for the town cred.

Logical was one of the people who was under vecnas plan so they would also want logical dead based on what Elsa said. That is why I am questioning why he said he wanted to save me for last.

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I'm to the point where I'm ready to take another look at your Bingle argument if you want to drag that out again.

My main is Adorable, but she's "self-confirming." As I was going through the game a couple of days ago, I ran across a couple of posts where Bingle said no to Logicalisticlist unless it was specifically him and Thun/Adorable. But you guys don't want to touch that slot because of the "self-confirming" nature of it.

Elsa is my number two. Elsa has lied about his role and other things multiple times and now says he's a PGO, which, if true, should have been signaled early on or at least he should have tried to draw a NK. So I don't believe the PGO claim and wouldn't be surprised if he's somehow compatible with Alchemist.

Alch would be my number 3. For several reasons I think we've been over and I don't really have time to flesh out right now.

I don't know. I get the feeling that this game has been lost already. I feel super pessimistic at this point that we're going to make the right decision.

Is this the reasoning why you are voting for me?

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Okay, blast me at this point. Honestly I'll place my faith in Alch siding with town and it gets me out the way so I don't shoot someone. Not like scum would kill me.

I do recommend Adorable shoots Galron though tonight. That's my bet.

VOTE: Elsa

:l This seems like a town thing, but mafia is up against the ropes and this seems like it could possibly be a last ditch effort to get town cred because no mafia would self vote. I also don't see why Alch would not be third party, and @Adorable the mafia could have thought that Alch was paula which is why they did not want to vote for that slot.

VOTE: Elsa B-1

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What would the scenario have to be for it to not just be alch or adorable?

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Not really, no. I still think Froppy is town based on the way the wagons went down the day we got TL.

If Froppy is the scum, I'll take the blame for protecting her.

Thank you my new queen.

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VOTE: Adorable

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20% of my pandemic life

The concept that this is a meaningful measurement of time depresses me.

Hopefully the pandemic will be over by the end of the year. Who knows though.

Could you imagine santa claus with a face mask on. How would we know he is jolly

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Now that's a cowboy I'd want by my side!

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But I would be shocked if Adorable flips green.