Epilogue! - [Endgame]

[OkaPoka]

i for one am extraordinarily excited to get absolutely buttblasted by the scumflation that has occured

[OkaPoka]

i for one am extraordinarily excited to get absolutely buttblasted by the scumflation that has occured

hey u.

ur dancing with me boi

thirds time the charm right

[OkaPoka]

i for one am extraordinarily excited to get absolutely buttblasted by the scumflation that has occured

hey u.

ur dancing with me boi

thirds time the charm right

i promise to never leave u again

firebringer will you do me the honors of being my dance dance revolution partner

[OkaPoka]

please ban private topics

[OkaPoka]

if u kill me and fire all it does is confirm the true romeo and juliet legacy we have

[OkaPoka]

who is deleuz an alt of btw

[OkaPoka]

can we make a decree to ban private topics

[OkaPoka]

the answer is going to be no pooky

[OkaPoka]

Don't go breaking my heart~

[OkaPoka]

Where’s your confidence man.
Dancing with someone means learning about them and getting to know them.

dancing is an economic proposition

[OkaPoka]

22 is GOAT dont @ me

[OkaPoka]

but usually early pairs are town are they not?

I don't really think so

Note that there are more town than scum period, so early pairs being more likely town is like pointing at a random pair and saying it's more likely town. Technically correct, but not really helpful

okay but if u say pairing early is scummy but most early pairs are town. u saying it doesnt mean much should still cancel out scumminess of pairing right?

no

[OkaPoka]

accept me pls i want friemds

[OkaPoka]

for what its worth its 4 scum game instead of your standard 3 so the risk v reward plan for scum should be a lot different

[OkaPoka]

i for one am extraordinarily excited to get absolutely buttblasted by the scumflation that has occured

[OkaPoka]

for what its worth its 4 scum game instead of your standard 3 so the risk v reward plan for scum should be a lot different

Now this is interesting.

In the past, dance setups of this size have been 3 scum. This one is different, with 4 scum.

Okapoka, I didn't take you for someone who reads the setup post in spoilers when you've already played the setup before

are you saying im lazy?

[OkaPoka]

dunnstral discriminating against people who dont proofread posts confirmed

[OkaPoka]

if i am scumread for my insight rather than my grating personality ill consider it a win

[OkaPoka]

dunn and maria have a long history together

tale as old as time

[OkaPoka]

we should really get some dance music going

Oka DJ?

how about i quote semi relevant song lyrics instead

[OkaPoka]

a heart full of love

[OkaPoka]

guess maria doesn't want to play with fire

[OkaPoka]

isis u should play cupid

[OkaPoka]

when did firebringer become such a goody two shoes

[OkaPoka]

alternatively we keep the momentum going and trim down the list

time pressure of pairing may produce AI relevant content

[OkaPoka]

im a true utilitarian

[OkaPoka]

i think if you pair with me and firebringer is left to pair with someone else we are going to have two suicides

i think the least likely chance for firebringer to suicide is if he pairs with me since idk he might feel bad and i never suicide

now i usually get kinda scumread and random paranoia'd about a week into every game but i never will get nk'd so you'll seppuku on me

[OkaPoka]

personally i dont mind if u pair with hectic

hectic is a bit of a wildcard so removing his ability to suicide would be pretty nice to make sure there are zero suicides

[OkaPoka]

i dont recall the last time ive been nk'd n1

[OkaPoka]

i mean if its not clear i think trying to force a t/t is a bit trivial

i think its better if we find a t/t rather than force a t/t

i mean when was the last time a dance game locked in 2 t/t pairings during predance and suicided down the list? in fact the t/t pairings usually off themselves

[OkaPoka]

anyways the point is its technically optimal to force find t/t pairs but its not realisitic because nobody is good enough to force t/t pairs d1 and we collectively will probably not trust each other enough to lock in reads and create a suicide order so instead we should play to minimize the leading cause of town losses which is paranoia suicide and scum optimizing use of pts

i suggest we pair to minimize suicide and ban PTs bada bing bada boom

[OkaPoka]

u all hate me but im jesus

[OkaPoka]

isis clearly gambitted and just outted akarin as conf scum

anyways since this is 4 scum whats wrong with pairing the ic with scum? i mean when you are in the losing position sometimes we just gotta go with the high variance plays

[OkaPoka]

im not saying we should aim to pair isis with scum but maybe some shady characters shouldn't be out of the picture for her?

[OkaPoka]

por que no los dos?

[OkaPoka]

if hectic is town its invaluable we remove a suicider

if he's scum i mean its not too bad either you know gotta hedge them bets

hectic is really just a thought experiment to show that maybe there are alternative ways to play this out

doesnt have to be hectic

[OkaPoka]

you know its best if you think hectic as not hectic but more of a representation of a ms.net stereotype

the wildcard type of player, who walks the line between trolling and playing, you guys know who im talking about

[OkaPoka]

i mean sure that could work but its a bit of a dick move to firebringer no? you really want to create a guaranteed suicide there

[OkaPoka]

There's so much spam to sort through, that's this business about a suicider?

we are just talking about when dances start and people can leave, leaving = suicide, leaver = suicider

certain types of people are more likely to leave on a whim you know, or suicidal type players

in my experience, suicide is the leading cause of dance collapses

[OkaPoka]

and if i keep spamming about suicide = bad eventually the overton window will shift enough where we hopefully won't see a chain suicide on day 2 and town goes from a massive lead to an utter collapse with absolutely nothing to go off of

[OkaPoka]

imagine being a cute anime girl and your soulmate decides to leave you for another cute anime girl i mean at that point girl #1 has to suicide for the plot

[OkaPoka]

i would like to dance with firebringer yes

it is necessary... for the prophecy

[OkaPoka]

I wouldn't meme suicide, I like joking around and having fun, but that's a weird representation of my play, Oka. Where'd you get that impression of me from?

Drew has broken my heart, I don't think I can ever find love again

i dont know if u like suicide hecboi, never seen u in a scenario where you have the option to make a suicide play, but if i were to put you on a graph of playertypes, you would be grouped with players with a proclivity to suicide

[OkaPoka]

for the prophecy

yes

the buddhists whisper of two souls, eternal

destined to save the world from doom, infernal

first they found love as gay lovers

then they found love as strangers

at last find love at world's end

[OkaPoka]

∾ ♥ ∾ ♥ ∾ ♥ ∾ Gentlemen Okapoka, I have hurt you before and yet you persist. Even for all my faults you still wish to dance with a girl like me I don't know who is a bigger fool, you or I. Considering my mother Isis silence on the matter, I have decided to Accept ~Firebringer ∾ ♥ ∾ ♥ ∾ ♥ ∾

[OkaPoka]

don't worry isis ill take good care of your daughter

[OkaPoka]

shelly who do you want to dance with?

[OkaPoka]

i stopped playing ms.net for like 3 months and hectic is an easy read now is this the word on the street?

[OkaPoka]

Isis sooner or later you'll have to sit down and engage with the game in a real way as the IC, and when you do:

I'l be here, waiting

This reads like a really misguided lamist. I like, demonstrably don't have to engage with the game to get sorted town? You know I will because I don't write off games or throw.

This something town!you would post about an unconfirmed player and this comes off as misguided mimicry of that, or like, thinking it lamists even harder because you're sticking your neck out to be "tough" on a confirmed player. It's not more town indicative, it just makes it make less sense and seem obviously performative. Should you get a dance partner here, Dunn?

early townpings from isis for this post

i would err on the side of caution - that's a really bold claim to just throw out there jeez

[OkaPoka]

dont worry the pace only increases once the suicides begin

[OkaPoka]

why do you think dgb asked you?

[OkaPoka]

I chose the last lady spot because I felt one of DGB/Hectic/Pooky would ask me for a dance. There is more to it, but involves ongoing so I will stop there

didn't you sign up before me

he did!

[OkaPoka]

and you had a choice to go either way so he's doubly so

[OkaPoka]

you can probably get away with only reading the events that have happened so far (all the links in the OP with asking and accepting)

[OkaPoka]

u cant vote in predance

[OkaPoka]

can people leave the dance in pre-dance

no but if u dont find a partner by deadline you will autoleave

or if u cant find a partner u will autoleave

[OkaPoka]

you can't do that in predance, although you can make the equivalent by leaving the start of dance 1. there is no incentive to do this as no matter what intermission will start once we hit 12 or less players

[OkaPoka]

ok but also it'd be nice to ban private topics

[OkaPoka]

ok but also it'd be nice to ban private topics

?

private topics bad id rather you just leash your vote to isis and not use the private topic with her until dance 2 if ur going to afk strats

[OkaPoka]

what if u ask fakegod to give you a private-r topic where its just you and you can post stuff

[OkaPoka]

beeboy you should promise to be a good pt partner but in reality never post in the partner pt with isis it'll make the meme even better i promise

and then only post in fakegod's privater beeboy pt and occasionally leave your den to vote with isis with absolutely no other commentary

[OkaPoka]

im glad promoting anti social values has become an attractive quality in the year 2020

[OkaPoka]

akarin is in love with isis but we live in a society

[OkaPoka]

uhhh isis is a child so idk about you but im not here to set up a lolita type situation

[OkaPoka]

Damn you would be perfect for isis

[OkaPoka]

what if we play 20 questions?

[OkaPoka]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i get it i think

[OkaPoka]

ive been labelled policy crusader before

[OkaPoka]

beeboy who is your second choice

[OkaPoka]

beeboy who is your second choice

I'll say if Isis rejects me.

[OkaPoka]

honestly a solid chance that the remaining gents are all town

[OkaPoka]

i think last pair should be shelly + someone so we effectively give shelly the vig

meaning we move akarin's pairing up the line

[OkaPoka]

let's open market this and go isis > akarin > taylor > shelly ?? who's down

[OkaPoka]

order is not a sorted list of towniness but more of a let's see the decision making process as the pool shrinks

[OkaPoka]

let's open market this and go isis > akarin > taylor > shelly ?? who's down

You mean ask the gentlemen who they'd prefer to pair with?

yes

Okay but if isis is in front i assume it’s because she’s conftown so towniness does have some relation to it apparently

i mean i guess but that's because im not interested in the criteria isis uses to choose her partner

[OkaPoka]

well assuming we reach the max number of pairs (8) we will have time to eliminate two pairs before a nightkill will occur to eliminate one pair

[OkaPoka]

one gentleman is left out and we vote out two pairs before nightkill

[OkaPoka]

isis is entitled to seize control but given the fact that she hasn't done it maybe it might be more helpful to her if we pushed the game along ourselves so she can sort through interesting stuff

[OkaPoka]

Ok in my defense I actually do know who I want when Isis rejects me ngl.
I literally just can't say it or I am messing up the entirety of what I am saying I am doing.

What in the world are you talking about

i think the game is basically on pause until isis picks her partner

[OkaPoka]

you know i agree with beeboy here

no reads until pairs are done

[OkaPoka]

well of course you can't hide everything

[OkaPoka]

why are we talking in the PTs?

[OkaPoka]

but why a PT not this thread?

[OkaPoka]

better question i guess is why are you using a PT to scumhunt when you have the option to scumhunt in main thread or scumhunt in a private notes doc

[OkaPoka]

this is how we get chennisden'd

[OkaPoka]

what is chennisden

an example of how to use your private topics as scum

[OkaPoka]

hmm so deleuz is someone in that gay dance game hmmm

[OkaPoka]

but all my guesses for deleuz are people who quit mafia cuz they hate the game argh

[OkaPoka]

He said he played with me recently.
And that's a very short list. Since usually my interactions with town leaders are frayed unless I like them or feel indebted to them.
I wind up with Peta, A50, SB, Flavorleaf.

the thing is dont think anyone on that list would have read gay dance

flavor leaf might line up timeline wise but flavor leaf is perpetually overgamed so does he read random games?

[OkaPoka]

i have a couple solid guesses but i need to find evidence that they enjoy playing mafia again

[OkaPoka]

hmm this is interesting

another relevant clue is no anime avatar which cleans out half the playerlist

[OkaPoka]

better question i guess is why are you using a PT to scumhunt when you have the option to scumhunt in main thread or scumhunt in a private notes doc

To me it's the same idea as why Hydras are fun, or Masons. There's a lot of stuff you can say in semi-private that for various reasons you don't want to say in public. Stuff that'll get you scumread by certain players, but also times when I just want to let something sit until a certain player responds or weird observations that you don't want to become the focus of the thread but sort of want to note for later.

Having another sentient being is nice because they can serve as a sanity check, and someone to vent to when someone is being ridiculous but saying that in the thread would just fan the flames rather than actually be productive.

but u arent in a hydra or a mason where alignment is guaranteed

[OkaPoka]

dunn, no interest in isis?

[OkaPoka]

dunn, no interest in isis?

I already asked, mostly for her sake

i dont think you officially proposed ?

[OkaPoka]

but u arent in a hydra or a mason where alignment is guaranteed

That's true, but if you end up getting a correct townread on your partner it's the same thing, and even with an INCORRECT town read some of those things are still true, like having someone to complain about the game to when you don't want to say it in the main thread. I agree that scumreading your partner removes this but if everyone in the game scumreads their partners we're going to lose.

PTs have a lot of utility, and just because not everyone is going to get that utility isn't a reason to forbid them to everyone.

Regardless, you can't make me.

while it might be slightly +good for you to have a vent buddy if they are town wouldn't it be mega mega mega -ev to expose yourself to someone like that ? especially if you choose to use your pt as a sanity checker and vent zone. that's basically handing over control of your animalian brain you know what i mean. your kinda doing a reverse lottery where usually you profit but in the scenario you don't, wall street crashes and we have a great depression

dunn, no interest in isis?

I already asked, mostly for her sake

i dont think you officially proposed ?

Why would I do that?

i mean no harm in giving ic a choice right?

[OkaPoka]

i mean no harm in giving ic a choice right?

Well, I did. It just wasn't an official declaration, but nothing is stopping Isis from saying "actually, Dunn, dance with me"

You're going over minutia, I didn't propose because i was in a mindset of playing things slow and also didn't want to seem pushy or look like I'd decided what I wanted

yeah but what if you go to bed and then isis is like actually i want to dance with dunn and then we have to wait for you to check this thread to propose and then wait for isis to reemerge in this thread and you know that could take 24 hours, 24 hours of time that we could be using to add fuel to the fire to make sure this game keeps everyone on their toes

[OkaPoka]

BUT im going to ask a dunn-esque question?

why do you care about not coming off as pushy?

[OkaPoka]

don't worry fire i already know all three of your scumbuddies in fact i already know one of them is linked up in a scum-scum pair so im going to 360 noscope your ass and kill all your partners and then bring this to 4p lylo where ill make some epic proclamation and leave the game

[OkaPoka]

I really do think beeboy is above average

scum equity

, I’m not getting a town vibe from him, and I think the WIFOM around him is going to be so much worse if you get left alive for second dance than with hectic

I ALSO think that hectic and you pair incredibly well together and have excellent chemistry from other games where you’ve interacted, and I genuinely think you will have a better time in a PT with each other than with anyone else (certainly anyone left) and think you will both enjoy the game more for it

firebringer i think we both know who this is

[OkaPoka]

Pooky too? Why does everyone want to dance with me ?!?!?!

well if dunn makes an official proposal, story wise we have all the bachelors waiting on the you to pick one of them - making this game more exciting story wise so *nudge*

[OkaPoka]

I really do think beeboy is above average

scum equity

, I’m not getting a town vibe from him, and I think the WIFOM around him is going to be so much worse if you get left alive for second dance than with hectic

I ALSO think that hectic and you pair incredibly well together and have excellent chemistry from other games where you’ve interacted, and I genuinely think you will have a better time in a PT with each other than with anyone else (certainly anyone left) and think you will both enjoy the game more for it

firebringer i think we both know who this is

wa ur guess menalque? that was mine.

i was making an rc joke lmao

but it looks like we are narrowing down the list

[OkaPoka]

im leaning towards menalque because this philosopher seems like an obscure french philospher and im pretty sure flavor leaf has a preference to pop culture references

plus flavor leaf knows about me n mechanics so his question about me n mechanics would be quite strange

[OkaPoka]

exciting stuff

isis once you pick you should 100% popcorn it off to another lady to make her pick

[OkaPoka]

wasnt mena in starry night?

no?

[OkaPoka]

accept OkaPoka

we all comedians now or what

[OkaPoka]

alright beeboy so now that isis paired with me who you going for

[OkaPoka]

starry night is the reason why pops rolling ic is the only way town has a chance against scumflation

[OkaPoka]

i mean akarin dunn is a lock right?

hectic/bell/pooky

taylor/shelly


oh boy

[OkaPoka]

at the very least we should be casting our ballots for who should be flipped

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: BELL

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: BELL

VOTE: Okapoka.

no hard feelings but i think your flip is the most informative of the three

[OkaPoka]

What about my flip is the most informative of the three?
I can't imagine flipping town is a good look.

i have associatives!

[OkaPoka]

if u flip town

uh

idk tbh, probably still more informative but unsure personally atm

[OkaPoka]

ok you know what deleuz maybe my solve of mariaR buldge deleuz firebringer should be tabled

[OkaPoka]

hmm maybe it can still stand

[OkaPoka]

dunn you going to ask akarin out?

[OkaPoka]

dunn you going to ask akarin out?

Probably

do it do it now now now now now now i want to EXECUTE people

[OkaPoka]

leuz does that mean you want to leave hectic out?

[OkaPoka]

pooky you need to start proposing or the bus is going to leave without you

[OkaPoka]

Bell, Hectic, Pooky all jockeying for tayl0r

spicy

thread is basically waiting on tayl0r's choice now?

[OkaPoka]

Well, also to see if Akarin accepts me

well with no open offers, i dont think akarin is turning you down lol

[OkaPoka]

THE IC HAS SPOKEN

[OkaPoka]

anyways tayl0r is probably dancing with hectic so the real prizefight is shelly

shelly is going to have to vig one of bell/pooky

[OkaPoka]

isis do you want to break dunn - akarin?

[OkaPoka]

but i mean if you were to defer to somebody else's opinion its best you defer to the conftown than the ??? alignment player

[OkaPoka]

pooky's got nice zingers

[OkaPoka]

bell's been gunning for tayl0r but 1) other things took precedence so his proposal went into the background 2) tayl0r wants hectic 3) nobody else is really jockeying for bell - tayl0r in the way we have people jockeying for other pairs

[OkaPoka]

ok nvm

[OkaPoka]

Oka did you want to expand on your maria bulge me fb solve?

not really - at least not yet

[OkaPoka]

THE LADY OF THE HOUR HAS ARRIVED

tayl0r who you picking

[OkaPoka]

Oka did you want to expand on your maria bulge me fb solve?

not really - at least not yet

Idk Oka I kinda really wanna hear about this, because I think it’s lowkey a pretty scummy suggestion

sucks to suck you dont get to hear about this until at least dance 1 starts

[OkaPoka]

how about after we flip bulge and maria d1 and if they both end up flipping scum ill explain

[OkaPoka]

how about after we flip bulge and maria d1 and if they both end up flipping scum ill explain

I mean I’ve said multiple times that I want to flip bulge and Maria

Or like, at least twice

yeah but ive had this as my primary solve before you said that

[OkaPoka]

well worse comes to worse leuz my solve involves me dying and maria+bulge dying so we will both be happy

[OkaPoka]

worst * jeez i bone apple tead

[OkaPoka]

look i know that you said you scumread maria before i posted my solve

but what im saying is irregardless of your post there, mariaR/bulge/you/fb was my personal solve before that and i was like maybe? maybe not? idk

[OkaPoka]

ok cool lets flip maria/bulge first because this is going to be all moot unless they are both scum

[OkaPoka]

i pretty much construct my scumteam by picking my top scumread and building out an entire team out of what i think they are doing so yeah, for what its worth the way i built it ws i think maria is scum -> bulge scum too then right? -> ok leuz would make sense in that case -> yeah fire is pretty solid here as well i guess

[OkaPoka]

well im not going to because it involves what i think is optimal scum pairing theory and so if im wrong i dont want to give scum any ideas on pairing ideas

[OkaPoka]

NO SUICIDES UNTIL AT LEAST D2 AND NO LOL SUICIDES

[OkaPoka]

Well, also to see if Akarin accepts me

well with no open offers, i dont think akarin is turning you down lol

Rude.

all it means is its meant to be :3

[OkaPoka]

TAYLOR TALK ABOUT YOUR POTENTIAL DANCE PARTNERS

[OkaPoka]

sorry to hear that

[OkaPoka]

i hate this game, its just over 24 hours and the threads exploded

re: me having many TRs - I was trying to read everyone's iso and get a feel for their alignment, and i tried to put out a read no matter how weak it was to generate discussion

if this is helpful in anyway, you haven't really missed

that

much and you could probably get away with quickly flipping through the posts linked in the OP by fakegod (all accepts and stuff)

[OkaPoka]

ive never played with u shelly but i dont want you to get burned out and probably the most meme-y phase of the game - which this is

the important stuff happens after you and taylor pair up, thats when all the good vibes stop and we start sharpening our blades to go at each other's throats

[OkaPoka]

you and taylor just chilling in scum pt seeing how to endgame?

[OkaPoka]

interesting you go to that interpretation when there is a much more obvious one

[OkaPoka]

i dont want hectic to be policy'd?

[OkaPoka]

i use hectic more as a representation for an archetypical ms.net player who might look at the ability to suicide as a fun toy that needs to be touched

me talking about hectic is more theoretical with regards to picking partners to limit quantity of suicides since chain suicides are a no no imo

now i don't know what hectic actually thinks about leaving the dance and such, but i view him as a bit of a wildcard so he might idk

[OkaPoka]

interesting you go to that interpretation when there is a much more obvious one

Continue

why do u hate me dunn why do you think im this evil conniving chicken who wants to undermine everybody

[OkaPoka]

shelly lets coordinate though yeah? make sure we work together to get optimal pairings?

yes taylor schwift

i wont get burnt out d1 lol, I've been in larges with exploding threads before

anyways i was referring to the fact that i saw this exchange and then nothing came of it after like 20 minutes

[OkaPoka]

anyways wrt to suicides, i would prefer if all eliminations happened the old fashion way of voting but with that being said i don't want to bog down the thread with reminders not to leave the dance especially if i have to direct that energy at people i am actively seeking to eliminate you know

gotta take advantage of predance so i don't have to look like a weirdo for telling someone simultaneously to vote themselves but not to leave the dance

we must follow decorum

[OkaPoka]

-everybody who was turned by isis

[OkaPoka]

TURNED DOWN BY JEESZ

[OkaPoka]

honestly has there been a more depressing dance

so many broken hearts :tear:

[OkaPoka]

hectic my love should i accept you for the brighter and better

dunn, scumcase hectic
oka, still waiting for your read on hectic

i really don't know lol, could be, could also not be, could fit into so many teams and at the same time is easily replaceable by anyone

[OkaPoka]

i really don't know lol, could be, could also not be, could fit into so many teams and at the same time is easily replaceable by anyone

Hmmm.

this feels scummy in term of content and townie in terms of tone help

you really need to stop worrying about sorting me and worry about who you want to let die

you always have the actual dance to end me

[OkaPoka]

unless of course my alignment is very relevant to who you are going to pick in which case ask me anything so we can expedite this

[OkaPoka]

lmao shelly really just stole taylor's man

also you guys were supposed to collaborate or something idek why im complaining i love the drama

[OkaPoka]

shelly legit you could've let taylor have hectic and you would have the means to take the vig shot on pooky but you just delegated it to taylor

[OkaPoka]

anyways taylor

who you looking to pair with?

[OkaPoka]

wow im kinda pissed tbh shelly.

could you say that you and shelly have... bad blood?

[OkaPoka]

reading those two posts alone id equate g7 to bell more than pooky

[OkaPoka]

RIP POOKY BUT THE DANCE IS GOING TO BEGIN GET HYPED

[OkaPoka]

NO HEROES WE ARE A SOCIETY OF PLURALISM

[OkaPoka]

POTENTIALLY GOOD SHIT TAYLOR

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: mariar - bulge

figure things out later and vote now?

[OkaPoka]

POTENTIALLY GOOD SHIT TAYLOR

potentially?

well if it turns out you and/or bell were scum then that's just funny

[OkaPoka]

VOTE AND ASK QUESTIONS LATER GO GO GO

[OkaPoka]

Give me the WHY on mariabulge so I can make that Decision

i think scum are aiming to make at least one s-s pair to take to endgame and i think mariar/bulge pairing makes the most sense to fit that criteria

[OkaPoka]

Give me the WHY on mariabulge so I can make that Decision

i think scum are aiming to make at least one s-s pair to take to endgame and i think mariar/bulge pairing makes the most sense to fit that criteria

I don't think it's likely that Maria and Bulge are both scum together

well we can disagree on the fine details but personally i think its maria+bulge+fire right now

[OkaPoka]

and honestly i such a good and shitty reason to think its maria + bulge + fire but if its right its absolutely hilarious

[OkaPoka]

i have a lot of weird reasons to personally have maria on the top of my scumlist that won't convince you so ill let dunn convince you its maria and let leuz convince you its bulge but im just giving the closest thing to a rational explanation in my head that its maria + bulge (s/s explanation)

[OkaPoka]

i just expect mariaR to have been more hands-on with the pairings, but instead i feel like she gave it a college try and just settled down the bulge and kinda peaced out

also she made some comments about scumrange which set off a red flag for me

and early dunn shading was also a lil sus because dunn is probably the most experienced with mariaR, and when i was a whee young lad, old ms.net players would tell me haunted scary stories of the terror of mariaR

[OkaPoka]

now peacing out is not necessarily scummy? but i did think her interaction with fire -> bulge was kinda real sketch and in fact very associativety but now im doing preflip associations

[OkaPoka]

why is hectic posting in the pt and not here

[OkaPoka]

THAT MAKES IT WORSE WTF

[OkaPoka]

i swear to GOD if we get CHENNISDEN'D ONCE AGAIN

[OkaPoka]

you know i've only played with a snapshot of hectic from a few months ago but has he ever just spewed such townie train of thoughts everyone chuckled to themselves and thought yeah he is town.

problem is we can't know if hectic is smurfing on u cuz he is using a private PT so let us bring these conversations to the light ahh

[OkaPoka]

fire don't worry i only scumread you because i have a hilarious solve that involves you and mariar+ bulge which is out of pure respect of how hilarious it would be

[OkaPoka]

fire don't worry i only scumread you because i have a hilarious solve that involves you and mariar+ bulge which is out of pure respect of how hilarious it would be

Then leave.

n o

[OkaPoka]

starts with an oka and ends with a poka cmon dunn

[OkaPoka]

starts with an oka and ends with a poka cmon dunn

I am terrible with riddles. Can i get more hints?

hmm

the partner is the opposite of watergiver

[OkaPoka]

dgb - dd so lame lets live a little and start with a bang

[OkaPoka]

Lame problems require lame solutions

yeah but do you really need an assist from <insert nk target pair> to get dgb and dd flipped

at the very least would u rather have <insert nk target pair> parse a flip of dgb and dd or something more exciting

[OkaPoka]

im not saying dgb and dd gotta go to endgame im just saying we have one pair flip that can be analyzed by <nk pair>

[OkaPoka]

im just asking if there is any value in doing the dgb and dd lynch now, like do you guys have any pressing associatives you have to see before you can flip others or are they just two generically scummy slots that can wait one flip. one flip is the difference between having another pair of townies analyzing some other flip instead of the results of dgb and dd.

[OkaPoka]

EXECUTION*

[OkaPoka]

im just asking if there is any value in doing the dgb and dd lynch now, like do you guys have any pressing associatives you have to see before you can flip others or are they just two generically scummy slots that can wait one flip. one flip is the difference between having another pair of townies analyzing some other flip instead of the results of dgb and dd.

Do you have any pressing associatives you’d like to share regarding the pooky flip?

uhhh not really i have a feeling pooky kinda realized they were fucked after not getting partnered with isis so actively avoided associatives there

[OkaPoka]

im just asking if there is any value in doing the dgb and dd lynch now, like do you guys have any pressing associatives you have to see before you can flip others or are they just two generically scummy slots that can wait one flip. one flip is the difference between having another pair of townies analyzing some other flip instead of the results of dgb and dd.

If they flip T we go for the Dunn/Aka pair if they flip S we let Dunn debate on his own partner and leave them alone for a minute so yes.

i mean it really seems like both roads are going to eventually lead to dunn/aka i don't see why having a dgb/dd flip NOW is so important. you could flip them end of phase 1 and come out phase 2 with whatever.

[OkaPoka]

i mean it really seems like both roads are going to eventually lead to dunn/aka

???

mariaR is either going go after your pair immediately or go after your pair later?

[OkaPoka]

i mean it really seems like both roads are going to eventually lead to dunn/aka

???

mariaR is either going go after your pair immediately or go after your pair later?

depending on the flip

[OkaPoka]

i mean it really seems like both roads are going to eventually lead to dunn/aka

???

mariaR is either going go after your pair immediately or go after your pair later?

No? If DGB/DD are scum I'm letting Dunn read his partner and if he says he wants to be in end game I'll let him.

ok fair enough so if they flip scum what's the next step that needs to happen asap

[OkaPoka]

like i see dgb/dd going as an inevitability that isn't going to change people's opinion on who is scum regardless of flip, do you think others will see dgb/dd flips and need time to discuss what needs to happen next?

[OkaPoka]

i mean really flipping me and fire would be more interesting right? there are a lot more people who are split on that ticket

[OkaPoka]

i mean really flipping me and fire would be more interesting right? there are a lot more people who are split on that ticket

I'm on board with that

then why you vote dgb/dd

that pair flip isn't going to change much right? where as me and fire seems to be a bit more controversial and parsing our flips is something you want as many eyes on as possible

[OkaPoka]

i dont think flipping us would be interesting. unless ur scum oka. which i kind of dont care about so not so interesting to even me.

imagine if we are both town fire it would mean half the playerlist is wrong and half the playerlist is right, wouldn't seeing those reactions be more interesting then looking at dgb/dd and being like huh ok what's next on the docket

[OkaPoka]

well im not leaving i am a believer in decorum and the necessity of making the first day lynches as grueling as possible for the sake of info

[OkaPoka]

like if me n fire bringer yeet out now - even if our deaths are inevitable, we won't see the process of people taking a stance on us and arguing what should happen. instead it'll happen and you'll have a few soundbites from the louder players but the sneaky players are chillin

[OkaPoka]

NOBODY IS LEAVING ESPECIALLY NOT DAY 1 WTF