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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:17 pm

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i guess im going to bed
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:18 pm

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In post 446, MariaR wrote:
In post 443, Isis wrote:
In post 435, MariaR wrote:
In post 430, Isis wrote:
In post 148, Isis wrote:
In post 130, Firebringer wrote:im totally accepting oka request just not this minute. because i don't want to upset mama isis.

isis. why cant u approve of our dance team!?
It's stronger play to start forming reads before cementing the dance pairings. We have 8 days it's good to use them.

In theory maybe it's optimal play for me to dance with someone early so they can start lurking earlier which makes MariaR's offer tempting if that's what she means.
MariaR if I have to misyeet you because of the equity scum!MariaR gets from "missing" this post and getting to pair with whoever she likes, you'll understand right?
Do you think scum me pretends to miss that post or something?
It's correct that a discrete application lim all liars is not going to apply here. I think it'd be missing the forest for the trees to drop the scumread over that though because there's other gray forms, like both alignments of you reading the text but only town!you taking it to heart, or neither alignments of you reading the text having jumped over it with your eyes, but only town!you taking more time to make sure I was definitely disinterested in the offer before proposing to bulge.

I'd rather you overcome the take with other behavior than pick at it, we can agree it's not allpowerful or immune to pratfalls but that can be fixed with sample size.
Basing a platform of a scumread on me or at least a base, on the fact that I could have faked your 'miss' is probably not the way you want to go about this. You mostly have to go through why wolf me would do/play like that if that was the case. Although, that's really a useless debate and I'm sure you'll see I'm town or probably not be alive enough to do such a thing.
I'm gonna take this as agreement we should move off the point. Even if I'm wrong I'm more likely to get confbiased than correctly disabused.
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:18 pm

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And I don't want "even if" to be read as bullheadedness because it's not
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:20 pm

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alternatively we keep the momentum going and trim down the list

time pressure of pairing may produce AI relevant content
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:21 pm

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OkaPoka why haven't you asked me to dance yet
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:21 pm

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im a true utilitarian
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:23 pm

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?
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:24 pm

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i think if you pair with me and firebringer is left to pair with someone else we are going to have two suicides

i think the least likely chance for firebringer to suicide is if he pairs with me since idk he might feel bad and i never suicide

now i usually get kinda scumread and random paranoia'd about a week into every game but i never will get nk'd so you'll seppuku on me
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:28 pm

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personally i dont mind if u pair with hectic

hectic is a bit of a wildcard so removing his ability to suicide would be pretty nice to make sure there are zero suicides
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:29 pm

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If I end up the last single lady I effectively get to vig one of the boys, is there a reason not to be last?
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:29 pm

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Why don't you think you'll get killed at night?
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:29 pm

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In post 459, Akarin wrote:If I end up the last single lady I effectively get to vig one of the boys, is there a reason not to be last?
Yes, because you may not like your choices
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:30 pm

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In post 458, OkaPoka wrote:personally i dont mind if u pair with hectic

hectic is a bit of a wildcard so removing his ability to suicide would be pretty nice to make sure there are zero suicides
This doesn't feel like a town train of thought, this looks like an excuse not to pair with Isis
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:30 pm

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And also you're assuming hectic as town
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:30 pm

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i dont recall the last time ive been nk'd n1
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:30 pm

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But isis is IC...
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:31 pm

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And I've never seen the ic paired with town in this setup not get killed. (I've been scum and paired with the ic before, made it all the way to last 2 pairs then lost)
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:32 pm

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i mean if its not clear i think trying to force a t/t is a bit trivial

i think its better if we find a t/t rather than force a t/t

i mean when was the last time a dance game locked in 2 t/t pairings during predance and suicided down the list? in fact the t/t pairings usually off themselves
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:42 pm

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anyways the point is its technically optimal to force find t/t pairs but its not realisitic because nobody is good enough to force t/t pairs d1 and we collectively will probably not trust each other enough to lock in reads and create a suicide order so instead we should play to minimize the leading cause of town losses which is paranoia suicide and scum optimizing use of pts

i suggest we pair to minimize suicide and ban PTs bada bing bada boom
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:42 pm

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Propose a dance with Akarin
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:43 pm

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Gleefully accepts!
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:44 pm

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In post 462, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 458, OkaPoka wrote:personally i dont mind if u pair with hectic

hectic is a bit of a wildcard so removing his ability to suicide would be pretty nice to make sure there are zero suicides
This doesn't feel like a town train of thought, this looks like an excuse not to pair with Isis
i kind of vibe with this, 458 is a scummy post
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:44 pm

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Can we just retheme "lovers" to "beards"?
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:45 pm

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u all hate me but im jesus
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:46 pm

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isis in the lady list and i thought only gentlemen could propose?
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