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Post Post #8 (isolation #0) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:02 pm

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I think it makes more sense for him to pick Noraa for that reason, Dunn.

Also, we’re an informed townie that knows scum can multitask.
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Post Post #10 (isolation #1) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:02 pm

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This was a serious claim, btw.
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Post Post #16 (isolation #2) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:07 pm

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We were told scum can kill and act in the same night.
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Post Post #46 (isolation #3) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:23 pm

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Whoever doubted me, yes, I saw the rule. I’m telling you what our role pm says.
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Post Post #62 (isolation #4) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:27 pm

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Assume posting is notsci, Brian wants to sit back and leave wrangling you knuckle heads to me.

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You aren’t good at telling us apart, please don’t muddy it for everyone.
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Post Post #69 (isolation #5) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:28 pm

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Bring it.
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Post Post #86 (isolation #6) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:37 pm

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VOTE: mastina
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Post Post #111 (isolation #7) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:50 pm

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In post 90, Flavor Leaf wrote:#4 Double the Trouble (Alisae and NorwegianboyEE)
#1 Nextflix and Chill (notscience and Brian Skies)
#3 Spiffeh
#2 Creature

it was this.

The first 4 on the playerlist. I'm showing the definition of chaotic neutral this game.
The first 4 on the
I love this. <3
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Post Post #113 (isolation #8) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:51 pm

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In post 88, Flavor Leaf wrote:You guys wanna hear what my first draft team was before I had to redraft?
Why was there a redraft?
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Post Post #120 (isolation #9) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:58 pm

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Notty won't let me let Mastina pocket us.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post Post #125 (isolation #10) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:00 pm

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Hello Spiffeh!
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Post Post #133 (isolation #11) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:03 pm

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I think Mastina and probably Dunn are town.

I think Polar could be scum. I don't really see the Creature scumread, but I can see why Mastina would think that.
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Post Post #140 (isolation #12) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:06 pm

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In post 130, Double the Trouble wrote:btw would anyone be down to do some mock drafts with this playerlist?
we may not be FL but I like the idea of drafting teams and it sounds fun and I also rarely get to do it so...
We would rather not have the game clogged with nonsense such as this.

But I'd be down for discussions postgame.
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Post Post #142 (isolation #13) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:09 pm

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In post 139, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 133, Netflix and Chill wrote:I think Mastina and probably Dunn are town.
What is this based on?
Mastina is my MafiaScum spirit animal.

I thought your pushback against us felt town and I like your vote on the Polar Bear slot.
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Post Post #144 (isolation #14) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:10 pm

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In post 143, Double the Trouble wrote:I'll keep it as minimalized as possible so it doesn't make things unreadable and if you do participate, i suggest you do the same.
But I understand and respect the mentality.
I don't see how it would be productive. This is a game based on FL's choices, not anyone else's.
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Post Post #166 (isolation #15) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:24 pm

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VOTE: double

Either you’re town intentionally playing this game the way flavor wants us to play it or you’re scum. Either way, you need to go.
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Post Post #185 (isolation #16) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:43 pm

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Bell, I do not like your entrance nor do I like your vote. But you can keep me distracted on killing who I’m killing with me!
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Post Post #186 (isolation #17) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:43 pm

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titus you missed a # in your code
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Post Post #189 (isolation #18) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:47 pm

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It’s not even RVS still. Cmon bell.
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Post Post #192 (isolation #19) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:48 pm

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Ignore him.
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Post Post #202 (isolation #20) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:05 pm

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Get in your hydra please.
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Post Post #206 (isolation #21) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:16 pm

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I think instead of trying to play “guess the reigning DC’s draft” we could just, ya kno, scumhunt? And not play the game on his terms, giving him that much more control over it?
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Post Post #208 (isolation #22) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:18 pm

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My point being was it’s a bad idea to play the game the way SOMEONE WE KNOW IS SCUM wants to play it and I think it’s stupid I have to explain it.

I’m done talking about it I’m just getting more annoyed.
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Post Post #210 (isolation #23) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:20 pm

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notsci. I stand by what I said and it wasn’t shade.
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Post Post #219 (isolation #24) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:28 pm

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Noraa make them all one big post this game is already going to have a congestion issue.
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Post Post #222 (isolation #25) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:36 pm

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In post 221, Double the Trouble wrote:
In post 219, Netflix and Chill wrote:Noraa make them all one big post this game is already going to have a congestion issue.
If Noraa is scum, why would she listen to you?
If she's town, why would she listen to you? If anything, its better that she just posts normally because if she's too different she gets suspected.
When has anyone ever respected any request ever to do this?
It has never happened.

Like, stop being a party pooper.
You're obviously town ya but ur being a jackass.
Also, you might get more out of not complaining, sitting back, and watch what happens, ya?
Where is this coming from?
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Post Post #225 (isolation #26) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:40 pm

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Nobody told Noraa to limit her posting.

What's wrong with wanting players to be serious? If players want to have fun, they can do so regardless of what we do.

Who said anything about wanting to vote you for policy (I, for one, don't policy vote)?
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Post Post #232 (isolation #27) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:45 pm

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In post 227, Double the Trouble wrote:Also your reason on your vote on us seems like policy.
You think what we're doing is bad for the town
or
we're scum and that we should go regardless
.
Isn't that based on policy?
Unpack this for me.

In the former case, we'd be voting you because we think there's either antitown or pro-scum motivation to your posting, no?

In the latter case, it would just mean we scumread you, no?

How do either of these things seem like a policy vote to you?
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Post Post #247 (isolation #28) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:55 pm

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In post 240, Double the Trouble wrote:like I associate policy voting by voting a person you think is either anti-town or scum but maybe its the wrong word.
Spoiler: For Alisae
I think that's just voting out people you think is scummy.

A policy vote
can
involve voting out antitown players, or antitown behavior. It's basically more of a "I don't like this so I will always vote it out" mentality, like 'eliminate all lurkers' or 'eliminate all liars' or 'eliminate all replace-outs' or 'I don't like this player so I will vote it until it dies.'
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Post Post #257 (isolation #29) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:04 pm

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In post 252, Double the Trouble wrote:
Spoiler:
I associate what ur doing as "I don't like this so I will always vote it out." So its policy. It may not associate with things like "kill all liars/lurkers/rep outs/whatever" exactly, but I feel like the vote and the justification for it comes across very similarly. Regardless, I don't really care about this arguement too much and I don't wanna get too hung up about it
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Out of curiosity, why do you think we're voting you?
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Post Post #260 (isolation #30) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:08 pm

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In post 259, Double the Trouble wrote:
Spoiler:
because of the reasons you presented when you voted me. It's also why I townread you. you're town 90-10 given your attitude and general approach to the thread.
Spoiler:
Ah, that makes sense.

Yeah, notty's post definitely makes it look like a policy vote, which is not what we discussed. I definitely understand the confusion now.
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Post Post #261 (isolation #31) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:09 pm

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Ali, what do you think of Not Known 15?
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Post Post #286 (isolation #32) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:11 pm

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@Mcat, fixed. You know me as Cobra Kai.
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Post Post #287 (isolation #33) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:12 pm

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Testing to make sure it’s actually showing my sig
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Post Post #293 (isolation #34) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:21 pm

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VOTE: Ircher
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Post Post #299 (isolation #35) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:25 pm

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Also lynchbait.
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Post Post #303 (isolation #36) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:27 pm

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Okay, my bad. I'll rescind the limbait comment.

:good:
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Post Post #307 (isolation #37) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:32 pm

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In post 301, Polar Bear Express wrote:why do Tv and ice cubes SR Ircher with his one post?
I didn't like the timing of his vote. I'd already floated Not Mafia and Dunn just stated a slight scumlean there. So if he's scum, he was reading the gamestate and preemptively voted.

Idk if Nottty agrees with me or not. I had to explain it to him as well.
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Post Post #314 (isolation #38) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:51 pm

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I'm not gonna lie, Spiffeh voting Ircher made me really happy right there.
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Post Post #430 (isolation #39) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:23 pm

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In post 371, pichu wrote:Nasty Plot
Clearly scum wouldn't be so brazen.
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Post Post #432 (isolation #40) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:25 pm

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In post 393, Flavor Leaf wrote:Every single person in this game except Mastina messaged me to draft them.
I can confirm our slot did this.

Flavor Leaf broke our hearts though.
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Post Post #508 (isolation #41) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:20 am

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Dunn and mastina please move your votes to someone who actually has a chance to be scum, thanks in advance.
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Post Post #512 (isolation #42) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:28 am

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Noraa, 3/4 of the scum team didn’t decide to elim you out of the gate. Dunn literally just saw you as scum and I’m not really sure why he thinks it’s the same here. Mastina knows better than to sit on wifom elim bait and I want to see her do more things that aren’t (pocket us, vote Noraa)

My toog meta is heavily outdated but 511 is giving me hives.
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Post Post #517 (isolation #43) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:31 am

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Yes yes the confirmed scum is posting red herrings and other wifom pitfalls for us to get distracted by we’ve covered this already
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Post Post #518 (isolation #44) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:32 am

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Noraa when have you ever seen scum combine to elim someone this early in a game?
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Post Post #523 (isolation #45) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:36 am

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As fun as it is to engage in the same wifom about drafts Flavor is trying to push I’ll pass.

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This is notscience, I’m pretty sure we have a game or two a few years back.
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Post Post #791 (isolation #46) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:04 pm

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Hard disagree mastina I get the feeling Noraas actually enjoying posting this game which IMO means she’s happy she’s town and doesn’t have to worry about rapid elim again.
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Post Post #794 (isolation #47) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:09 pm

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(It’s because you’re voting town)
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Post Post #801 (isolation #48) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:18 pm

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In post 797, Double the Trouble wrote:
In post 791, Netflix and Chill wrote:Hard disagree mastina I get the feeling Noraas actually enjoying posting this game which IMO means she’s happy she’s town and doesn’t have to worry about rapid elim again.
This reads like total bullshit. Your entire read is based on them seeming like they are "enjoying the game"? They can't enjoy the game as scum?

- Norwee
Your vote is about as bad as the drafting teams idea
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Post Post #802 (isolation #49) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:19 pm

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Noraa already struggled with her tone in that scumgsme combined with her team getting ROLLED. I’m saying that given there’s no tone issue which would occur if she was scum let alone demoralized after that loss.
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Post Post #808 (isolation #50) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:22 pm

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We’re playing a game based on lying. Making assumptions is the entire fucking point
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Post Post #812 (isolation #51) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:24 pm

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I don’t disagree that mastina has plenty to read me off of and latching onto *that* to top tier read me is lame

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And sometimes they try to take on the one slot that they have zero shot to elim.
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Post Post #815 (isolation #52) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:27 pm

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Well yeah, you think I’m scummy for making assumptions in a game of lying. Clearly you’re at best severely misguided.
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Post Post #851 (isolation #53) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:39 pm

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Mastina your read on us is still weak
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Post Post #864 (isolation #54) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:46 pm

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VOTE: mastina

I’m not getting pocketed, sorry.
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Post Post #878 (isolation #55) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:57 pm

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Hey Noraa I will make you lock town if you tell me what’s wrong with Doubles recent posts.
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Post Post #912 (isolation #56) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:35 pm

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Noraa you were close.

In Haunted Village, Norwee hydra made a point of wanting to discuss in thread anything they disagree on to look busy. I can go check who said it when I get home but I was pretty sure it was Norwee.
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Post Post #929 (isolation #57) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:43 pm

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I mean yeah, Norwee. But given how that went down with you two I was respecting your privacy.

Anyways, @Spiffeh- I don’t have a read because there’s too many goddamn shiny things this game. I know this isn’t the answer you are looking for but it’s the one you’re getting.

Ninja-
I’m not opposed to a BM quick wagon if it keeps this game under 80 pages d1
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Post Post #935 (isolation #58) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:47 pm

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Hey scum kill me n1 I’m a mason and pooky told me scum have multitasking thanks
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Post Post #938 (isolation #59) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:49 pm

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It helps having a town full of limbait and people who want to play the game the way you want it played
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Post Post #942 (isolation #60) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:51 pm

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Take a dart and throw it at the player list
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Post Post #950 (isolation #61) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:53 pm

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Haven’t been miselimmed once post hiatus

Nice try though!
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Post Post #958 (isolation #62) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:55 pm

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Hey I just want to die n1 so I can yuck it up in the dead Pt with all the spectators

Ninja-
Least I’m not voting someone for making assumptions in a game of lying ;)
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Post Post #964 (isolation #63) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:24 pm

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By the way, geniuses, it would have been a good idea to bring up me trying to instigate a fight in Smugglers Port as scum (where you both defended me) bc that’s pretty on par with our back and forth

@spiffeh- mastinas lock townread on us is based off is claiming our informed. She’s played with at the very least me and should be able to provide more reasoning than that.

Battle mage is uninspired is why I don’t like them. Others have already hit on it.
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Post Post #965 (isolation #64) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:26 pm

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Like I guess I can see you saying there isn’t a lot of shiny things but I’ve been pretty actively trying to quash the behaviors flavor would want the game to lean into (and pookys encouraging for some reason?)
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Post Post #968 (isolation #65) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:29 pm

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I mean, go off I guess

I’m not the one you should be convincing of that
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Post Post #971 (isolation #66) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:37 pm

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If you’re comparing me to Xeno yes. I was able to sit back and come in strong because I was under the radar. This is because we had town getting shit done, which we don’t have here. I’ve been trying to keep this train on the tracks and it’s come at a loss of that.
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Post Post #974 (isolation #67) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:40 pm

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That’s fair.

Skies wants ircher I don’t really mind him. I just want mastinas read on us to not be *awful*
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Post Post #977 (isolation #68) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:47 pm

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I’m townreading Noraa

I don’t like mastinas read on us

I am back and forth with you two because on the one hand yes, Norwee would probably have flaked by now if you were scum but you guys have some interesting ideas.

Creatures kinda sketchy.

I was unimpressed with Bell but I normally work best with him through someone else so I’m leaving it be for now

I noted Dunn being more engaged than I’ve seen him recently and wasn’t sure what to make of it.

I think NK 15 is town (gut)

Ninja-
My last completed game was one of my best on record and I’m trying really hard not to shit the bed on this one

BM leaning scum

I didn’t like Toogs entrance

So yeah

Lots of shiny things
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Post Post #990 (isolation #69) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:04 pm

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@Dunn- I know. Maybe it’s due to the lack of volume here compared to there? Like I said I wasn’t feeling any kinda way about it I just clocked it.

VOTE: BM

Let’s kill this double. Truce?
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Post Post #1120 (isolation #70) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:59 am

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I don't think Pichu's content is low quality.
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Post Post #1126 (isolation #71) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:43 am

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In post 654, Double the Trouble wrote:
In post 518, Netflix and Chill wrote:Noraa when have you ever seen scum combine to elim someone this early in a game?
I would prefer it if you didn't shut her down.
Your choice though. I don't mind her tunneling me right now. If anything its just a slight annoyance.
Why did you say this?
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Post Post #1232 (isolation #72) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:50 pm

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Pooky, Flavor Leaf
Pichu, Toogeloo, Dunnstral
Polar Bear Express, Bell
Ydrasse, Solstice, Not Known 15, Battlemage
Spiffeh, Mastina
--------------------------------------------------------------
Murdercat, Double Trouble
Creature, Dr Easy Bake
Ircher
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Post Post #1233 (isolation #73) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:51 pm

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Actually, I changed my mind. Ydrasse can be moved to the same line as the Polar Bear and Bell.
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Post Post #1237 (isolation #74) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:03 pm

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Ydrasse, reads, go!
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Post Post #1242 (isolation #75) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:07 pm

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I changed my mind again, Ydrasse can go on the Spiffeh/Mastina tier.
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Post Post #1245 (isolation #76) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:13 pm

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The pocket's not big enough for the both of us. I'm gonna need you to go find a Pokeball or something.
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Post Post #1246 (isolation #77) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:14 pm

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In post 1244, Ydrasse wrote:also i think the case against me for hard buddying is very silly and that's all i have to say abt it
I don't know what you expect from a scumslot.
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Post Post #1249 (isolation #78) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:15 pm

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Okay, I can put Ydrasse back to the Polar Bear tier.
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Post Post #1251 (isolation #79) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:17 pm

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Which head do you want it to be?
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Post Post #1255 (isolation #80) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:18 pm

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I'm the less sweaty one this game.
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Post Post #1256 (isolation #81) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:18 pm

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In post 1252, pichu wrote:i want to do science on your brain
You can't hedge like this. Lol.
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Post Post #1260 (isolation #82) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:20 pm

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I imagine it’s harder to tell us apart when we’re both posting
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Post Post #1262 (isolation #83) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:21 pm

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In post 1260, Netflix and Chill wrote:I imagine it’s harder to tell us apart when we’re both posting
The lack of period gives you away.
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Post Post #1263 (isolation #84) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:21 pm

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Im. Sorry. I. Will. Do. Better.
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Post Post #1267 (isolation #85) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:25 pm

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I thought Ircher's first vote was really scummy, as I've already explained.

I didn't like his first quote post.

The first two times he tried to catch up in thread, he stopped about 4-5 pages short of a full catch-up, which made me think it was deliberate.

I also feel like he's playing the role of 'keep town from coalescing' with his 'Pichu and Ydrasse are clearly SvS.' Sure, I can maybe buy that Ydrasse interactions are not the greatest, but I feel like Pichu in isolation is fairly townish.
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Post Post #1286 (isolation #86) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:58 pm

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Alisae ignored me too.
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Post Post #1288 (isolation #87) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:59 pm

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VOTE: Ircher
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Post Post #1299 (isolation #88) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:08 pm

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At least four. I have no idea what the VoteCount is at.

I don't think it's anywhere near a hammer.
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Post Post #1315 (isolation #89) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:17 pm

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Unofficial Vote Count 1.X

Ircher (4): Solstice, Netflix and Chill, Polar Bear Express, MURDERCAT
Double the Trouble (3): Dunnstral, pichu, Ydrasse
Battle Mage (2): mastina, Double the Trouble
Bell (2): Not Known 15, Creature
Creature (1): Spiffeh
Dr Easy Bake (1): Bell
Polar Bear Express (1): Toogeloo
Ydrasse (1): Ircher

Not Voting (2): Dr Easy Bake, Battle Mage

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to fade.
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Post Post #1322 (isolation #90) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:19 pm

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In post 1318, Blade Dancer wrote:
Official Vote Count 1.10


Ircher
(4): Solstice, Netflix and Chill, Polar Bear Express, MURDERCAT
Double the Trouble
(3): Dunnstral, pichu, Ydrasse
Bell
(2): Not Known 15, Creature
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(2): mastina, Double the Trouble
Polar Bear Express
(1): Toogeloo
Ydrasse
(1): Ircher
Dr Easy Bake
(1): Bell
Creature
(1): Spiffeh

Not Voting
(2): Dr Easy Bake, Battle Mage

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2020-12-14 16:00:00)

If you ever feel the need to do an unofficial VC, just pm or discord me.
Lol. Too slow!
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Post Post #1325 (isolation #91) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:21 pm

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I see my pick has been included and am willing to cooperate.
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Post Post #1326 (isolation #92) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:22 pm

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Never give up, Spiffeh.
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Post Post #1344 (isolation #93) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:33 pm

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In post 1338, Ircher wrote:Also I saw the town treestump post a lim pool for today, and I think that's an awful post for several reasons: 1) we still have a whole week 2) some of the people in your PoE aren't fully caught up and the game just began like 2 days ago 3) this is just a bad strategy in general because it gives scum license to focus their reads there and ignore doing actual scumhunting elsewhere. I would advise the stump to reconsider.
Ircher showing up in response to Ircher wagon + Ircher in POE pool makes me think we are on the right track.
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Post Post #1348 (isolation #94) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:36 pm

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Fair, I do the same thing.
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Post Post #1374 (isolation #95) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:56 pm

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I support Double/Ircher eliminations.

I would compromise on Battle Mage, but wouldn't really be happy about it unless it flipped scum.

I don't think Dunn is scum.
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Post Post #1377 (isolation #96) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:57 pm

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I don't see what Spiffeh sees regarding Ircher, and have felt nothing townish emanating from Ircher's big quote walls.
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Post Post #1380 (isolation #97) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:58 pm

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In post 1376, Bell wrote:I feel stuck.
It's okay, the magical tree stump has narrowed the pool for us.
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Post Post #1387 (isolation #98) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:00 pm

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This is a weird surge of effort coming from Creature. Considering he's not in the pool of potential lynches, I'm inclined to think it's town?
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Post Post #1389 (isolation #99) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:01 pm

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In post 1385, Bell wrote:@Netflix and Chill. :neutral:
:neutral:
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Post Post #1396 (isolation #100) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:05 pm

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In post 1393, Bell wrote:What's Ircher at?
Three, or four if Polar Bear's unvote doesn't count.
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Post Post #1399 (isolation #101) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:07 pm

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In post 1397, Creature wrote:
In post 112, Spiffeh wrote:Ok you all have until page 10 to interact w/ Flavor Leaf and then after that just ignore him so he can't artificially inflate the post count and make Town apathetic TIA
This looks so bad. Or maybe just TWTBAW
TWTBAW?

Why do you think it looks bad?
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Post Post #1409 (isolation #102) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:11 pm

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Ali, tell me about your Solstice scumread.
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Post Post #1415 (isolation #103) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:15 pm

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In post 1414, Spiffeh wrote:Excuse me this was probably the most helpful post I've made in the game thus far
Are you proud of this?
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Post Post #1419 (isolation #104) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:17 pm

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I thought Pichu had Solstice as null-town.

If you're just sheeping, why are they so low on your reads list?
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Post Post #1433 (isolation #105) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:26 pm

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In post 1426, Spiffeh wrote:I already explained a big reason I'm town reading him but if I'm being honest a huge chunk of it has to do with meta from DEFCON 4.0 like four years ago where he was town and elim-baity and posting in the same way he's posting here

It's probably a little lazy to just write him off as town from it but in a game where I don't have many confident reads it's something
Sadly, I'm not going to put much stock in a read you're basing off 4-year old meta. And I feel like you shouldn't either.
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I also don't really agree with your take here. How does him deviating to explain his scum read on Ydrasse make it seem like 'he's focused on solving the game' when it's possible he was just interjecting to break them up or cast them both in a bad light?

And I feel like him establishing 'an easy posting style to hide behind' should give you more concern than it has been. And I certainly don't think the latter part outweighs the former.
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Post Post #1443 (isolation #106) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:23 pm

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Thank you.

I was afraid I'd lose my place.
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Post Post #1886 (isolation #107) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:12 pm

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VOTE: Double the Trouble
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Post Post #1889 (isolation #108) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:20 pm

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In post 1822, Not Known 15 wrote:Ircher - DT could be S/S
I think so.
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Post Post #1890 (isolation #109) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:21 pm

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In post 1824, Battle Mage wrote:Brian Skies is reputedly a good player.
Meh.
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Post Post #1891 (isolation #110) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:24 pm

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In post 1829, Battle Mage wrote:what effort??
There was a surge of effort-posting from Creature right after Pooky gave us the list of four names of potential eliminations for today. I thought that was more likely to be town-indicative of Creature since he wasn't in that pool, and I don't think anything he did seemed agenda-driven towards that pool of eliminations.

A lot of people disagree, so I've been waffling on it.
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Post Post #1903 (isolation #111) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:44 pm

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In post 1887, Double the Trouble wrote:I didn't before because I though it was more useful for you to vote me to see who else would bite. You know, for the data.
Why did you think I would want or care about this data?
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Post Post #1907 (isolation #112) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:50 pm

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Congratulations. I'm scumreading you and now think you're the best possible lynch for the day, if only to get rid of a high effort scum slot.
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Post Post #1914 (isolation #113) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:05 pm

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In post 1909, Spiffeh wrote:Hey N&C what makes Double Trouble a more attractive elimination over Ircher for you now?

I think they're most recent content has been p. towny, especially Norwee-head's interactions with BattleMage
I believe Battle Mage has come out of their brief 1v1 fairly townish against Double Trouble. I also feel like BM's posting feels like town flail.

I haven't really liked Double Trouble at all this game, and them 'deferring' their vote to Mastina without stating a strong read there or saying what exactly they agreed with regarding the BM case to be fairly weak and scummy. I've also commented on other things regarding them throughout this game (including them putting Solstice so low on their reads list but only explaining it as them sheeping Mastina and you) but not really in the mood to pull them up. These 'suspicions' of theirs don't seem genuine and I just fail to see how anyone can think this slot's town.

I also don't really buy them thinking I'd want to see other people vote them and 'get data' from that and just think they were distracting from a potential Ircher wagon.
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Post Post #1917 (isolation #114) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:05 pm

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In post 1914, Netflix and Chill wrote:but only explaining it as them sheeping Mastina and you
Mastina should be pichu here.
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Post Post #1919 (isolation #115) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:08 pm

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I never mentioned hydra dissonance as a reason to scumread them.
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Post Post #1932 (isolation #116) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:20 pm

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Yes.
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Post Post #1954 (isolation #117) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:19 pm

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VOTE: Battle Mage
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Post Post #1956 (isolation #118) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:37 pm

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About Battle Mage?
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Post Post #1958 (isolation #119) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:45 pm

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In post 1646, mastina wrote:
In post 1526, Battle Mage wrote:also better VOTE: double the trouble as I owe Ircher one.
This post is indicative that Battle Mage is aware that Pooky made a pool of 4 players to eliminate within, containing both Ircher and Double the Trouble. It's a case of TMI given his stated narrative.

None of the posts in that range mentioned Pooky's pool of four, and yet somehow Battle Mage knows to vote Double the Trouble, one of the names in that pool of four, over Ircher, another name in the pool of four?

I call bullshit.

Battle Mage has read most of the thread already. Maybe genuinely not all of it, but he knows far, far more than he is pretending he knows.
This stood out to me in Mastina's case against Battle Mage. I don't really care that much about the other stuff she mentioned, but I don't really understand why Battle Mage would vote here or mention Ircher unless he did have some prior knowledge of the lynchpool. And I didn't find anything in his iso, or the immediately surrounding pages to indicate him just coming across it.

Yes, the vote was in response to Murdercat quoting a VoteCount, but it still doesn't explain why he'd feel the need to mention Ircher with his Double the Trouble vote (and just those two names).

I wouldn't say I'm confident in it or anything, I just feel like some of my reads need reassessment and that Mastina is probably onto something here.
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Post Post #1959 (isolation #120) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:48 pm

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After looking at it again, he only had one vote on him. So now I'm unsure.
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Post Post #1960 (isolation #121) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:56 pm

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In post 1646, mastina wrote:To reiterate:
Battle Mage claimed yesterday that, while on his V/LA, he was not reading the thread.
Battle Mage is asking that, if he is put to L-1, for it to be announced.
If Battle Mage was not reading the thread, how would he be able to see the declaration of being at L-1?
To see that he's at L-1 inherently requires that he is reading the thread enough to know it has happened...something he previously said he wasn't doing. To refresh your memory:
Like, this is just silly.

Just because he said he wasn't following up previously doesn't mean he can't at least follow along with current events now.
In post 1646, mastina wrote:But when asked why he, allegedly, searched for his name inthread, he answers he doesn't know why and that he's never done it before.

So he's claiming he wasn't reading, that he found it through doing something he's never done before and had no reason to do here...but he wants to know if he gets to L-1 which requires...him to be reading the thread.
And this is just twisting things to fit her case.

Either way, if he's never done it before, then it's not necessarily alignment indicative.
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Post Post #1963 (isolation #122) » Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:02 am

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What about Mastina's case do you agree with, Ali?
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Post Post #1965 (isolation #123) » Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:07 am

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That's cool. Can you point out what specifically you agree with? Or paraphrase in your own words?
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Post Post #1968 (isolation #124) » Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:10 am

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Let me see the game through your eyes, Ali. This way I can feel less bad when I inevitably eliminate you for being picked by Flavor Leaf over me.
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Post Post #1972 (isolation #125) » Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:21 am

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In post 1519, Battle Mage wrote:can someone give me a heads up if i get to -1 so i can claim? lol
In post 1524, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 1486, Blade Dancer wrote:
Official Vote Count 1.11


Ircher
(6): Solstice, Netflix and Chill, MURDERCAT, Bell, Polar Bear Express, Toogeloo
Double the Trouble
(4): Dunnstral, pichu, Ydrasse, Not Known 15
Solstice
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Bell
(1): Creature
Ydrasse
(1): Ircher
Dunnstral
(1): Double the Trouble
Battle Mage
(1): mastina

Not Voting
(2): Dr Easy Bake, Battle Mage

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2020-12-14 16:00:00)

Good job guys. No prods needed.
You have 1 vote on you?
I think 1519 is a weird post here.
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Post Post #1975 (isolation #126) » Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:39 am

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Not gonna lie, this confused me for a good 10 seconds or so.
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Post Post #1976 (isolation #127) » Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:41 am

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In post 1973, Double the Trouble wrote:- Their read on me is not natural
Can you explain this one?
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Post Post #1977 (isolation #128) » Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:45 am

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Okay, Ali. I'm willing to let you live.
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Post Post #1980 (isolation #129) » Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:28 am

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I can buy Polar Express being scum this game.
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Post Post #2273 (isolation #130) » Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:03 pm

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In post 2026, Battle Mage wrote:on the basis of their response to your questions, or lack thereof, I...have no idea how you came to this conclusion.
It was the towniest + I'd ever seen.
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Post Post #2274 (isolation #131) » Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:08 pm

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I'm fine with the BM elimination if only for the Fonz quote. My other head feels better about this elimination than I do, but I think Mastina is town this game and am willing to trust her on this.

Also, BM already claimed VT and running up another slot that may or may not be a town PR seems silly. And I think stalling to use up the full deadline is apathy-inducing and runs the risk of town getting stuck with poor compromise options which are likely to land on miselimination options due to lack of scum cooperation and is also silly.
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Post Post #2463 (isolation #132) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:33 am

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VOTE: Solstice
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Post Post #2464 (isolation #133) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:35 am

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Oh, that apparently was a Not Known 15 post, not a Pichu post.

Almost didn't notice you there, buddy.
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Post Post #2467 (isolation #134) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:38 am

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I think we should just worry about finding the first one. We can worry about who is second or third or fourth after.
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Post Post #2473 (isolation #135) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:38 am

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I've forgotten a lot of things over the last couple of days. But it's okay.

We can generate more pages and make new impressions. After all, we have like five whole days left before deadline!
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Post Post #2474 (isolation #136) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:39 am

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In post 2468, Spiffeh wrote:Guys I recently started playing League again
Don't worry, Spiffeh. I will pray for your soul's safe return.
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Post Post #2484 (isolation #137) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:29 am

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Why are we wagobing this person
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Post Post #2486 (isolation #138) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:33 am

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I love how you ask them and not me.

Is there no limit to your infidelity?
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Post Post #2489 (isolation #139) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:45 am

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So why are we not eliminating obvscum BM?
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Post Post #2492 (isolation #140) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:50 am

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Congratulations.
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Post Post #2493 (isolation #141) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:51 am

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Well as fun as it would be to stop a wagon on obvscum because someone without a vote in this game got pocketed, i think that’s a pretty dumb idea

Ninja
CONGRATS BELL
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Post Post #2495 (isolation #142) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:52 am

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Bell help me

VOTE: BM
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Post Post #2499 (isolation #143) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:56 am

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In post 2498, Bell wrote:
In post 2494, Bell wrote:
In post 2484, Netflix and Chill wrote:Why are we wagobing this person
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Post Post #2504 (isolation #144) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:08 am

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If both our slots join the Solstice wagon, we can initiate another round of Pooky's exit interviews.
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Post Post #2507 (isolation #145) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:10 am

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To be fair, I don't think he even asked for this wagob.
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Post Post #2510 (isolation #146) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:15 am

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I mean yes pressure helps read and all but I’d rather go with my stronger scumread instead of detailing it bc people buy AtE
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Post Post #2512 (isolation #147) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:16 am

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Noraa vote BM
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Post Post #2515 (isolation #148) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:20 am

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Noraa we need to end this day and get some flips and revisit fresh tomorrow. Vote BM.
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Post Post #2519 (isolation #149) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:36 am

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In post 2517, Polar Bear Express wrote:Murder, if this is ur scum buddy, u should be derailing rn cuz ur gonna look shit tomorrow if BM flips red.
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Post Post #2528 (isolation #150) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:55 am

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Kind of how I feel about Notty taking control of the vote back away from me. Lol.
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Post Post #2540 (isolation #151) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:22 am

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He's obviously not going to explain his read on you if he thinks it's going to be a distraction to the leading wagons.
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Post Post #2548 (isolation #152) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:42 am

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In post 2546, Polar Bear Express wrote:It's not like he's on any of the leading wagons anyways. Why's he care?
It's generally not a good idea to split focus between multiple scumreads because then you end up with multiple smaller wagons instead of one large one on the slot you're trying to eliminate.

So if he already thinks one of the leading wagons is on scum, then explaining a scumread elsewhere risks derailing the leading wagon.
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Post Post #2555 (isolation #153) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:58 am

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I'm going to be honest. I stopped reading Ircher's posts a long time ago.
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Post Post #2577 (isolation #154) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:52 am

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In post 2574, pichu wrote:you may be alive in the game but you're dead in my heart
Wow. This is how I feel about Ircher.
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Post Post #2615 (isolation #155) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:14 am

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In post 2596, Battle Mage wrote:I'm not a PR so who gives a crap?
You're right. You're
not
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should
we care about you?

Also, yes, I argued against
some
points of Mastina's case against you. I also said I thought some of the things she said had merit. I'm willing to eliminate you for the latter.

Not to mention Norwee had a point that you spent most of your time relying on AtE to defend yourself rather than solving. And before you were even wagoned the first time, you were clearly softing a PR, but now you're supposedly just a VT.

So here we are, back to the BM wagon.
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Post Post #2618 (isolation #156) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:19 am

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In post 2593, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 2589, Spiffeh wrote:Hey BM what are your thoughts on Solstice currently?
playing very safe. it's hard to tell with MT - I think she is playing how she played when she hydra'd with me as town. Her takes on the game are like, logically sound, and steeped in the trademark MT-town wariness of jumping to conclusions. But I also feel like she's cruising and could easily still be scum here.

In short, could go either way.
In post 2602, Solstice wrote:[like as i have gone over, a lot of the things people are finding BM suspicious for, i don't really. I certainly haven't read everything though, especially many of mastina's points. I have a lot of respect for BM's scumgame in that i could see this recent emotional play being a ploy (I am having serious flashbacks to Revelations D1 Auro vs. VP Baltar). He also could be town where Mastina/Double are just seriously off the mark]
Interestingly enough, both Solstice and BM have similar noncommittal reads on each other.
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Post Post #2629 (isolation #157) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:41 am

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In post 2627, notscience wrote:I'm seconding the incredibly low odds either team actually picks Nk15 and then likely odds both tried to pick you
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Post Post #2632 (isolation #158) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:43 am

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hey bm I'm the one who feels fairly strongly you're scum because you are very not cheeky and very AtE and whiny and I have more respect for your towngame than that

Ninja

I'm in thisnhydra you're arguing with
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Post Post #2633 (isolation #159) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:43 am

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literally read the sig. This lack of awareness wouldn't come from town trying to solve btw
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Post Post #2634 (isolation #160) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:52 am

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In post 2628, Battle Mage wrote:i literally don't know which head you are - why don't you sign your posts again? shooting an angle for a cheap scum win? Not impressive if so.
In post 2630, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 2627, notscience wrote:I'm seconding the incredibly low odds either team actually picks Nk15 and then likely odds both tried to pick you
you're not even this :lol: also you're a Cobra Kai alt?
Busted. Elim the fuck out of this he's caught not reading our slot
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Post Post #2636 (isolation #161) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:54 am

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he literally asked for us to sign so i was easier to read them was confused I'm in this game??? No way town BM makes this mistake.
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Post Post #2637 (isolation #162) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:57 am

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MCAT look at the way 2630 I posted he doesn't know I even in the game
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Post Post #2639 (isolation #163) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:59 am

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anyone who comes after this better either vote BM or explain why I'm wrong
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Post Post #2641 (isolation #164) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:03 pm

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am I wrong or do you intend to be nacho Jr this game
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Post Post #2644 (isolation #165) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:07 pm

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I mean he’s pocketed so I don’t know what you expect from him

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Post Post #2660 (isolation #166) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:29 pm

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In post 2655, Solstice wrote:[I just spent multiple hours reading and reviewing mastina's entire case for BM being scum because I previously was just dismissing it all -- which BM calls "smart" from me.]

[But now that I've taken the time to actually care and achieve a real verdict based off of the evidence and the entire case presented -- it's gross and I've lost my mind.]

[That is really, really disappointing to hear]

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