TemporalLich's Grand Idea [Game Over]

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I wonder if we're dealing with a lot of scum this game. 50% of the votes on one player seems like a lot, especially right at the start of the game when barely anyone has come in.

Also are third party considered scum or do they have their own general term?

VOTE: raya36

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im here to kick bubblegum and chew ass. and i'm all out of sugar. can i borrow some?

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yeah it's me

ive taken a solemn vow not to give a shit and im not sorry

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sick

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it's ok nothing matters anyway

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that's more town than i was expecting this to have

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guess this is a real mafia game i should take seriously!

lol as if

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I'm mostly just getting into the correct mindset since the answer is that there are probably a whole lotta factions.
I'm trying to think of a role that can set up a post restriction and coming up blank.

it's almost as though this game has a bunch of fake made up and generally bad roles on purpose!

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I RETURN FOR A FEW MOMENTS TO ASK THIS QUESTION:
WHY THE FUCK WOULD I LIE ABOUT BEING UNRECRUITABLE WHEN THE SOLE POINT OF ME JOINING WAS TO ROLL CULT AND/OR GET CULTED? THE POST RESTRICTION I WOULD GENUINELY LIE ABOUT AS TOWN OR SCUM JUST BECAUSE IT’S FUNNY.

did anyone propose that you were lying about this

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ugh ur right im ashamed of the amount of effort ive put in and ill come back later and pretend this never happened

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greetings gentlebeings

~oil tycoons

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i have descended to your mortal plane for only one reason

i must secure that most treasured of treasures: a rose

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I also get the worst vibes of the 4 from magnus

This is the face of madness

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I will only join your cult if we worship the great old ones

Even then, I'd probably rather just worship them on my own time. They don't seem like sticklers for organized religion.

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Can you imagine that doctrine

We are coming to end it all, including you, and spend the rest of eternity gibbering into the void. and also if you don't keep unholy the sabbath we'll be very mad at you personally.

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you don't have to read the entire thread for a fakeclaim just turn to a random page and find one

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which only makes an immediate massclaim an even worse idea

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im terrified ya

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korina is town

spiffy is town, not so sure about spiffeh

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VOTE: hayker

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korina is town

spiffy is town, not so sure about spiffeh

Why is korina town?

i know this can be confusing, but town aligned players are the ones that received a town role pm at the start of the game. hope that helps!

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korina is town

spiffy is town, not so sure about spiffeh

Why is korina town?

i know this can be confusing, but town aligned players are the ones that received a town role pm at the start of the game. hope that helps!

Cut it out. This is a non answer, and disproportionate to the question asked in this situation. Now why is korina town to you?
-koba

wow ur really serious about this game huh

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I dont really think "this is multiball" is something scum says be abuse they're on a small team. I also think raya is scum, so I dont care about them being voted. But sure, who cares?

VOTE: vax

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Raya scumread withdrawn

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Please dont go into the closet. It's so much nicer out here.

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This post is too serious, but can someone go check the grand idea thread for a cult role that has to openly post about being cult and get people to openly agree to it

Sorry, I just want to continue shitposting and pooky winning the game without me would make me sad

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Ok glad we got that over with let's vote for scum now

VOTE: hayker

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Is it just me or does the above post make absolutely zero fucking sense

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You literally just posted "this slot is town" and then voted it. Excuse me

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ISOing Particularly Stupid for his particularly stupid and wolfy push on me.

ur a joke lmao

anyway i learned from this flea/rebel convo that flea is obviously town. sweet.

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I already said I'll handle korina

as for hayker, he could just not post for the next 28 hours

UH WHAT DOES THIS MEAN SAM
I'M VERY SCARED YOU'RE A VIG AND YOU'RE GOING TO SHOOT ME

You should 100% be vigged tonight.
i am 100% voting u tomorrow as u are claimed non town esp if we flip town today.
-koba

AND YOU ARE SCUM. WHY DON'T YOU JUST NIGHT KILL ME KOBA? LITERALLY I'M SAYING I'M NOT SIDING WITH ANYONE THIS GAME, UNLESS DOING SO WOULD END THE GAME. YOU HAVE NO INCENTIVE TO LYNCH ME, UNLESS YOU'RE SCARED I WOULD BETRAY YOU.

IN FACT, LET'S BREAK DOWN WHO WOULD BE SCARED OF A SURVIVOR BETRAYING THEM ON DAY ONE SPECIFICALLY:
- ANYONE WHO IS ALIGNED WITH JUST THEMSELVES, AND IS NOT A SURVIVOR/JESTER/UNJESTER/ETC—(NAMELY JUST SERIAL KILLER)

TOWN CAN AFFORD TO KEEP ME ALIVE BECAUSE IF THEY LYNCH 5/7 SCUM, AND WE GET A COP GUILTY ON THE LAST SCUM, I VOTE WITH TOWN BECAUSE THAT ENDS THE GAME.
MAFIA CAN AFFORD TO KEEP ME ALIVE BECAUSE IF THEY GET DOWN TO EQUAL NUMBERS, AND ME, THEY WIN BECAUSE I SIDE WITH MAFIA BECAUSE THAT ENDS THE GAME.
WEREWOLF CAN DO THE SAME THING.
CULT CAN DO THE SAME THING.
PIRATE CAN DO THE SAME THING.
ALIEN CAN DO THE SAME THING.
ALTERNATIVE MAFIA CAN DO THE SAME THING.

THE ONLY PERSON WHO ACTUALLY TRULY WANTS ME DEAD ON DAY ONE WOULD VERY LIKELY BE A SERIAL KILLER.
YOU ARE SCUM FOR TRYING TO LYNCH ME.
PLEASE STOP TRYING TO LYNCH THE NEUTRAL SURVIVOR CLAIM.

ur not modconfirmed survivor to me.

also survivors dont insta claim d1.

so i kinda call bullshit. u just sound like someone using the claim as a shield.

survivor gives scum factions 1 extra number. theyre basically a flexible traitor here. ur fault but leaving u alive is terrible play.

and lol u can try to shade/discred me all u want but ur reads are not coming from a town mindset so no one is going to take u seriously

korina is so obviously not lying about this it's actually suspicious to doubtcast it imo.

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NGL I wanted to find a reason besides OMGUS to scum read PS, but his slot feels townie. All except the particularly stupid push on me after failing to read the entire context of my post I'm guessing.

I'm not gonna say that he has been DA game solver but by tone, I think the slot is town.

i read it and it's still fucking dumb

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cool.

if its not in the grand idea thread im eliminating u 100%.
-koba

am i the only one around here who reads posts

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i wanna see where yall stand on keeping survivors alive.

:shrug:

i don't really care either way, especially with so much game to play. if we get halfway through the game, they're still alive and scum are ahead, yeet it into next week.

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guillotina can you stop dumbtelling thanks.
-koba

Don't do that.

what? call you out for pretending to not know basic things about grand idea mafia when you yourself said you contributed to a thread for it? and managed to miss the multiple times we called korina a survivor/3p but managed to see they were a mason?
yeah i think ur dumbtelling and trying to fake it rn.

if not then sorry but yeah.

-koba

That's right. I'm new here and painting me as dumbtelling is shady as hell.

then stop dumbtelling

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you are now vigorously defending your own stupidity

i don't mean this as an insult i just think it's funny

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anyway this twilight mechanic sucks eggs

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you are now vigorously defending your own stupidity

i don't mean this as an insult i just think it's funny

Whom was this referred to?

im also amused that you can't figure that out

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ok genius

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Prodded, again.

I'm slightly curious about the quiet slots. They're piquing my interest.

Otherwise, question for all currently attending:

1. How do you think this flips?

2. Is this a PR?

3. If it flips scum, how does that change your reads?

oh, all the low charisma players rolled scum

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i know this won't work but what if we just agreed to all not post in twilight so we don't make 30 more pages of worthless tripe until tomorrow

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There are 11 town alive. Samantha obviously intended to target korina. So what happened?

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is whatever you're claiming guaranteed sane?

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Oh, I see. You got alignment changed.

But that doesn't add up with the town count, unless there is a cult or something.

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I wonder if Bell was culted last night.

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I don't see what we think unwnd's master plan is here.

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Yeah I'd much rather ignore this and aim elsewhere thanks.

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Yeah I'd much rather ignore this and aim elsewhere thanks.

Where else are you aiming?
I don't mind elaborating on my thought process in full but things seem pretty cut and dry to me here. I might do a bit more hand-wringing if this were not Grand Idea Mafia but the claim is more likely to be scum than not, the investigation target is more likely to be scum than not. It's a good lynch. What more do you need?

Not sure yet.

It doesnt seem that cut and dry to me. If unwnd is scum and also not really a bloodhound here, then I would guess he was an eliminator which I wouldn't care about at all.

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*makes spooky cult hand signs*

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Also lld said she would play today so I'm hoping she'll come tell me who's scum.

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Is there any reason to talk about how we went from 14 town to 11 with three town killed at night and Korina supposedly getting turned into a town.

Seems like a lot of speculation that would be required unless I'm missing something.

I mean I'd like to know whether korina is telling the truth or not.

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yes the obvious conclusion here is that the post restriction is made up and not that maybe it has more than one rule

for sure

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The korina issue likely solves itself. Just see if the math adds up tomorrow. Scum will want to know too, so they won't kill bell.

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If they want to not cult until we kill you that is 400% fine with me.

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this elim seems bad

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I don't see "you're not allowed to claim" in that post.

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did i visit someone last night? yes. was it rebel? no. if there's something else substantial in there, i don't see it.
am i going to care about your dumb vendetta against me because i pointed out that your bad post was bad? probably not.

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VOTE: Particularly Stupid

who did you visit and why?

i am not answering this.

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If you want to be that ridiculous then go ahead.

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I think I am comfortable swapping PS and Guillotina in my reads piles (guillotina from null -> scum, PS from Scum -> Null)
-koba

hey look, i can quote the dead to make you look bad too.

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no.

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I wonder if cook can talk to the dead? Maybe he accidently quoted them which is a no-no?

he died last night. he posted while dead which isn't allowed. his role is in the thread. at least pay a little attention.

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he's probably telling the truth since that would be a pretty strange thing to make up

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yeah? you think a brilliant scum plan is to make up a role that isn't town aligned? ok thanks for enlightening me please teach me more of your ways

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man, the scum in this game must be real morons since they're apparently throwing themselves at our feet asking to die.

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dunno

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ok bud.

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Well, wanting to have a hero do all your work for you because you're short on time in a bastard game is false hope in the first place.

alas.

Are you scum Cephrir? If you're not scum, who is?

im pretty sure ndmath and flea are town. does that help? i hope so, since it's pretty much all i've got.

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flea, ok, waht about guil?

Havent really read too much into ndmath?

Unfortunately irritating me is not alignment indicative.

I think math's handling of their role is a townslip.

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Someone explain why Disney is so confident in this.
My theory is that they got culted and they don’t give a toss what unwnd is as long as they’re not cult.

No clue! They're not making much sense to me, and I'm forced to wonder if it's a strategy!

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I think the votes on you are almost all coming from not giving a shit or scum.

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I'm very cute.

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he's probably telling the truth since that would be a pretty strange thing to make up

I agree, if he's serious then it's most likely true because why would you make that up. I'm just worried that he's telling the truth about his role but not his alignment.

Certainly more possible than the harebrained theories we're seeing. I still don't see that possibility as any more reason to elim jim than anyone else.

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Him. I hate phones.

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he's probably telling the truth since that would be a pretty strange thing to make up

I agree, if he's serious then it's most likely true because why would you make that up. I'm just worried that he's telling the truth about his role but not his alignment.

Certainly more possible than the harebrained theories we're seeing. I still don't see that possibility as any more reason to elim jim than anyone else.

As of now I think of all the claims it's most likely to be lying about alignment. The role is an odd one to fakeclaim so it's probably true but I don't believe that it was not given an alignment or the alignment is not known.

Did he claim to not know his alignment? I don't remember that.

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I could be wrong but I took this as not knowing alignment.

Did Lich give you a win condition at all?

No.

oh sorry i lost the thread of the conversation yeah

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why isn't angry birds posting? i feel like there should be at least 200% more shitposts coming from that slot.

who else is coasting?

nono would be an ok elim just on the grounds that it will never be possible to decipher their posts.

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dsj is a slot that's made plenty of posts without leaving any impression on me, which i find is frequently a scum trait

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VOTE: angry birds

give us syr posts

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this thread is mostly trash but at least your trash is funny

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no asking for a counterclaim from the playerlist at large, nothing. Even though when I typed in 'bloodhound' to the GIM thread, a fuckton of results came back with indicators of varying sanities potentially in play.

why would a counterclaim mean anything in this setup?

is there a rule that everyone has to search the GIM thread for their role? i mean i did but surely not everyone is me

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Ceph how have you not joined my cult yet

i'm still afraid that it's an evil role mechanic!

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we did see three kills last night and for all we know there could be more. i get why someone's kneejerk reaction to that would be to out any potentially useful info.

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i'm still afraid that it's an evil role mechanic!

ceph I am deeply hurt you do not trust me.

does it look like I've re-enacted the Jonestown massacre or summoned Satan?

We are good hard working people trying to go public via SPAC and get our tendies.

you could have summoned satan in your secret magical bear lair at night

aha, bear lair rhymes! illuminati confirmed.

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just cast me as the bird on the right

sorry; i was just specifically wondering why your slot's content was mostly coming from you.

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@ PS Re: a Bell counterclaim (maybe I was unclear and you thought I was looking for unwnd to solicit a counterclaim?)

yep - my b

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i would also like to know where magnus has gone.

VOTE: magnus

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Those are the only two I'm willing to vote rn and honestly I'd be willing to put them as the mafSolve

with statements this lacking in critical thought you're about to blow a hole in my townread on you

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Talk to me about Flea?

i think i mostly liked flea's exchange with rebel. felt real to me. i guess i want to wave my hands and shout TONEREAD!! but that's not very helpful is it.

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anyway stop making me try i took a solemn vow

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we can't actually be sure a cult exists but if it does then yes agreed.

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yall really like voting town huh.

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There are some valid points in those quotes about flea and any more than that would be more effort than I'm willing to put in!

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completed games

This is an irrelevant distinction.

This is more busywork. He's just making it clear he's following site rules

This literally only matters to the mod and no one else. Why would they post it for everyone to see? We literally do not care. No one asked them. They made a post that no one asked them to, and which does nothing for anyone.

Basically, it's a fluffpost

a bit ironic coming from you

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scum

thought

they

shut down

Guillotina

LMAO

noobs.

What's up guys.

Hard Claim

I'm ascetic

VOTE: Guillotina

uh wait isnt this a complete slam dunk or am i missing something

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The point is how did you get a post restriction if you're an ascetic

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Lolwut

Damn dude you are a major omgus factory

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How dare you think "hard claim" in bold is hard claim, ndmath! Scum caught!

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ndmath is obviously town and we are not eliminating them thank you go away

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i feel like jake can't be group scum with his supposed lack of role.

the only thing concerning me there is that if i were the mod, i probably would've wisdom of the mod'ed out this role since it is extremely bad and stupid.

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im certainly concerned about disney but not comfortable murdering them yet.

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VOTE: vax

idk

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Nightvig Toog

Let me guess, you are a vigilante that has to proclaim their target during the day.

There is zero chance I'm going to be useful with this setup as I'm completely out of my depth in trying to solve, so by all means, let this go through.

Pretending to fall for obviously fake stuff is so passe.

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We got 4 days left and noone is doing much, lets just elim jake and maybe we will have more info tomorrow.

How about I elim your face instead?

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i'm voting you?

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Terrible job, everyone

Fuck twilight, not posting again

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Twilight on Earth is the illumination of the lower atmosphere when the Sun is not directly visible because it is below the horizon. Twilight is produced by sunlight scattering in the upper atmosphere, illuminating the lower atmosphere so that Earth's surface is neither completely lit nor completely dark. The word twilight is also used to denote the periods of time when this illumination occurs.[2]

The lower the Sun is beneath the horizon, the dimmer the twilight (other factors such as atmospheric conditions being equal). When the Sun reaches 18° below the horizon, the twilight's brightness is nearly zero, and evening twilight becomes nighttime. When the Sun again reaches 18° below the horizon, nighttime becomes morning twilight. Owing to its distinctive quality, primarily the absence of shadows and the appearance of objects silhouetted against the lit sky, twilight has long been popular with photographers, who sometimes refer to it as "sweet light", and painters, who often refer to it as the blue hour, after the French expression l'heure bleue.

Twilight should not be confused with auroras, which can have a similar appearance in the night sky at high latitudes. By analogy with evening twilight, the word twilight is also sometimes used metaphorically, to imply that something is losing strength and approaching its end. For example, very old people may be said to be "in the twilight of their lives". The collateral adjective for twilight is crepuscular, which may be used to describe the behavior of animals that are most active during this period.


Contents
1 Definitions by geometry
2 Definitions and illustrations by illumination
3 Civil twilight
4 Nautical twilight
4.1 Definition
4.2 Nautical dawn and dusk
5 Astronomical twilight
5.1 Astronomical dawn and dusk
6 Times of occurrence
6.1 Between day and night
6.2 Lasting from one day to the next
6.3 Between one night and the next
6.4 Lasting for 24 hours
7 Duration
8 On other planets
9 In religion
9.1 Christianity
9.2 Hinduism
9.3 Islam
9.4 Judaism
10 Gallery
11 See also
12 References
13 Footnotes
14 Further reading
15 External links
Definitions by geometry
Twilight is defined according to the solar elevation angle θs, which is the position of the geometric center of the sun relative to the horizon. There are three established and widely accepted subcategories of twilight: civil twilight (nearest the horizon), nautical twilight, and astronomical twilight (farthest from the horizon).[2]

Definitions and illustrations by illumination

Civil twilight in a small town in the Mojave Desert

Long exposure of nautical twilight in a small town in the Mojave Desert

Long exposure of astronomical twilight (dusk) in a small town in the Mojave Desert
Three subcategories of twilight are established and widely accepted: civil twilight (brightest), nautical twilight, and astronomical twilight (darkest).[2]

Civil twilight
Civil twilight is the period when enough natural light remains that artificial light is not needed.

Morning civil twilight begins when the geometric center of the sun is 6° below the horizon[3][4][5] and ends at sunrise.[4][5][3] Evening civil twilight begins at sunset[4][5][3] and ends when the geometric center of the sun reaches 6° below the horizon.[3][4][5] In the United States' military, the initialisms BMCT (begin morning civil twilight, i.e. civil dawn) and EECT (end evening civil twilight, i.e. civil dusk) are used to refer to the start of morning civil twilight and the end of evening civil twilight, respectively. Civil dawn is preceded by morning nautical twilight and civil dusk is followed by evening nautical twilight.

Under clear weather conditions, civil twilight approximates the limit at which solar illumination suffices for the human eye to clearly distinguish terrestrial objects. Enough illumination renders artificial sources unnecessary for most outdoor activities. At civil dawn and at civil dusk sunlight clearly defines the horizon while the brightest stars and planets can appear. As observed from the Earth (see apparent magnitude), sky-gazers know Venus, the brightest planet, as the "morning star" or "evening star" because they can see it during civil twilight.[6]

Lawmakers have enshrined the concept of civil twilight. Such statutes typically use a fixed period after sunset or before sunrise (most commonly 20–30 minutes), rather than how many degrees the sun is below the horizon. Examples include the following periods: when drivers of automobiles must turn on their headlights (called lighting-up time in the UK); when hunting is restricted; when the crime of burglary is to be treated as nighttime burglary, which carries stiffer penalties in some jurisdictions.

The period may affect when extra equipment, such as anti-collision lights, is required for aircraft to operate.[7] In the US, civil twilight for aviation is defined in Part 1.1 of the Federal Aviation Regulations (FARs)[8] as the time listed in the American Air Almanac.[9]

Nautical twilight
Definition
Morning nautical twilight (nautical dawn) begins when the geometric center of the sun is 12 degrees below the horizon in the morning and ends when the geometric center of the sun is 6 degrees below the horizon in the morning.

Evening nautical twilight begins when the geometric center of the sun is 6 degrees below the horizon in the evening and ends (nautical dusk) when the geometric center of the sun is 12 degrees below the horizon in the evening.[10]

Nautical dawn and dusk
Nautical dawn is the moment when the geometric center of the Sun is 12 degrees below the horizon in the morning. It is preceded by morning astronomical twilight and followed by morning civil twilight. Nautical dusk is the moment when the geometric center of the Sun is 12 degrees below the horizon in the evening. It marks the beginning of evening astronomical twilight and the end of evening civil twilight.[3][4][5][11]


At the beginning of nautical twilight, artificial lighting must be used to see terrestrial objects clearly.

Evening nautical twilight on Lake Ontario, Canada
Before nautical dawn and after nautical dusk, sailors cannot navigate via the horizon at sea as they cannot clearly see the horizon.[1][failed verification] At nautical dawn and nautical dusk, the human eye finds it difficult, if not impossible, to discern traces of illumination near the sunset or sunrise point of the horizon (first light after nautical dawn but before civil dawn and nightfall after civil dusk but before nautical dusk).[citation needed]

Sailors can take reliable star sightings of well-known stars, during the stage of nautical twilight when they can distinguish a visible horizon for reference (i.e. after astronomic dawn or before astronomic dusk). Under good atmospheric conditions with the absence of other illumination, during nautical twilight, the human eye may distinguish general outlines of ground objects but cannot participate in detailed outdoor operations.[12]

Nautical twilight has military considerations as well. The initialisms BMNT (begin morning nautical twilight, i.e. nautical dawn) and EENT (end evening nautical twilight, i.e. nautical dusk) are used and considered when planning military operations. A military unit may treat BMNT and EENT with heightened security, e.g. by "standing to", in which everyone assumes a defensive position. This is partially due to tactics dating back to the French and Indian War (part of the Seven Years' War of 1756–1763), when combatants on both sides would launch attacks at nautical dawn or dusk.[citation needed]

Astronomical twilight
Astronomical dawn and dusk
Astronomical dawn is the moment when the geometric center of the Sun is 18 degrees below the horizon in the morning. Astronomical dusk is the moment when the geometric center of the Sun is 18 degrees below the horizon in the evening. After astronomical dusk and before astronomical dawn, the sky is not illuminated by the sun.[3][4][5][2]

Definition
Morning astronomical twilight begins (astronomical dawn) when the geometric center of the sun is 18° below the horizon in the morning and ends when the geometric center of the sun is 12° below the horizon in the morning. Evening astronomical twilight begins when the geometric center of the sun is 12° below the horizon in the evening and ends (astronomical dusk) when the geometric center of the sun is 18° below the horizon in the evening.[4][5] In some places (away from urban light pollution, moonlight, auroras, and other sources of light), where the sky is dark enough for nearly all astronomical observations, astronomers can easily make observations of point sources such as stars both during and after astronomical twilight in the evening and both before and during astronomical twilight in the morning. However, some critical observations, such as of faint diffuse items such as nebulae and galaxies, may require observation beyond the limit of astronomical twilight. Theoretically, the faintest stars detectable by the naked eye (those of approximately the sixth magnitude) will become visible in the evening at astronomical dusk, and become invisible at astronomical dawn.[13]


Evening astronomical twilight (dusk)
However, in other places, especially those with skyglow, astronomical twilight may be almost indistinguishable from night. In the evening, even when astronomical twilight has yet to end and in the morning when astronomical twilight has already begun, most casual observers would consider the entire sky fully dark. Because of light pollution, observers in some localities, generally in and near large cities, may never have the opportunity to view anything but the brightest stars, irrespective of the presence of any twilight at all, nor to experience anything close to a truly dark sky.

Times of occurrence

World map showing limiting latitudes of each type of twilight during the solstices
Between day and night
Observers within 48°34' of the Equator (within 50° of the Equator in May or November, within 57° of the Equator in April or October) can view twilight twice each day on every date of the year between astronomical dawn, nautical dawn, or civil dawn, and sunrise as well as between sunset and civil dusk, nautical dusk, or astronomical dusk. This also occurs for most observers at higher latitudes on many dates throughout the year, except those around the summer solstice. However, at latitudes closer than 9 degrees (between 81° and 90°) to either Pole, the Sun cannot rise above the horizon nor sink more than 18 degrees below it on the same day on any date, this example of twilight cannot occur because the angular difference between solar noon and solar midnight elevates less than 18 degrees.

Lasting from one day to the next
At latitudes greater than 48°34' North or South, on dates near the summer solstice, twilight can last from sunset to sunrise, since the Sun does not go more than 18 degrees below the horizon, so complete darkness does not occur even at solar midnight. These latitudes include many densely populated regions of the Earth, including the entire United Kingdom and other countries in northern Europe and even parts of central Europe.

Civil Twilight: between 60°34' and 65°44' North or South (between 62° and 67°10' North or South in May or November, between 69° and 74°10' North or South in April or October). In the northern hemisphere, includes the center of Iceland, Finland, Sweden, Norway, and Faroe Islands. In the southern hemisphere includes the Southern Ocean but at latitude smaller than 65°44' South. All night of civil twilight is also referred to white night.
Nautical Twilight: between 54°34' and 60°34' North or South (between 56° and 62° North or South in May or November, between 63° and 69° North or South in April or October). In the northern hemisphere, includes the center of Russia, Canada, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Denmark. In the southern hemisphere includes the southernmost point of South America, and Ushuaia in Argentina. All night of nautical twilight does not constitute a white night.
Astronomical Twilight: between 48°34' and 54°34' North or South (between 50° and 56° North or South in May or November, between 57° and 63° North or South in April or October). In the northern hemisphere, includes the center of Isle of Man, United Kingdom, Belarus, Ireland, Netherlands, Poland, Germany, Belgium, Czech Republic, Luxembourg, Guernsey, Ukraine, and Slovakia. In the southern hemisphere includes the center of South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, Bouvet Island, Heard Island, Falkland Islands. It also includes El Calafate and Río Gallegos in Argentina, and Puerto Natales in Chile. All night of astronomical twilight does not constitute a white night.
Between one night and the next
In Arctic and Antarctic latitudes in wintertime, the polar night only rarely produces complete darkness for 24 hours each day. This can occur only at locations within 5.5 degrees of latitude of the Pole, and there only on dates close to the winter solstice. At all other latitudes and dates, the polar night includes a daily period of twilight, when the Sun is not far below the horizon. Around winter solstice, when the solar declination changes slowly, complete darkness lasts several weeks at the Pole itself, e.g., from May 11 to July 31 at Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station.[a] North Pole has the experience of this from November 13 to January 29.

Solar Noon at Civil Twilight during a polar night: Between 67°24' and 72°34' North or South.

Solar Noon at Nautical Twilight during a polar night: Between 72°34' and 78°34' North or South.

Solar Noon at Astronomical Twilight during a polar night: Between 78°34' and 84°34' North or South.

Solar Noon at Night during a polar night: Between 84°34' and 90° North or South.

Lasting for 24 hours
At latitudes within 9 degrees of either Pole, as the sun's angular elevation difference is less than 18 degrees, twilight can last for the entire 24 hours. This occurs for one day at latitudes near 9 degrees from the Pole and extends up to several weeks the further toward the Pole one goes. The only permanent settlement to experience this condition is Alert, Nunavut, Canada, where it occurs for a week in late February, and again in late October.

Duration

The number of daylight hours depends on the latitude and time of year. Each pole has continuous daylight near its summer solstice.

Carpet plot of sunshine at latitude 70 North

Carpet plot of sunshine at latitude 50 North

Carpet plot of sunshine at the equator

Twilight at Paranal Observatory in Chile[14]
The duration of twilight depends on the latitude and the time of the year. The apparent travel of the sun occurs at the rate of 15 degrees per hour (360° per day), but sunrise and sunset happen typically at oblique angles to the horizon and the actual duration of any twilight period will be a function of that angle, being longer for more oblique angles. This angle of the sun's motion with respect to the horizon changes with latitude as well as the time of year (affecting the angle of the Earth's axis with respect to the sun).

At Greenwich, England (51.5°N), the duration of civil twilight will vary from 33 minutes to 48 minutes, depending on the time of year. At the equator, civil twilight can last as little as 24 minutes. This is true because at low latitudes the sun's apparent movement is perpendicular to the observer's horizon. But at the poles, civil twilight can be as long as 2–3 weeks. In the Arctic and Antarctic regions, twilight (if there is any) can last for several hours. There is no astronomical twilight at the poles near the winter solstice (for about 74 days at the North Pole and about 80 days at the South Pole). As one gets closer to the Arctic and Antarctic circles, the sun's disk moves toward the observer's horizon at a lower angle. The observer's earthly location will pass through the various twilight zones less directly, taking more time.

Within the polar circles, twenty-four-hour daylight is encountered in summer, and in regions very close to the poles, twilight can last for weeks on the winter side of the equinoxes. Outside the polar circles, where the angular distance from the polar circle is less than the angle which defines twilight (see above), twilight can continue through local midnight near the summer solstice. The precise position of the polar circles, and the regions where twilight can continue through local midnight, varies slightly from year to year with Earth's axial tilt. The lowest latitudes at which the various twilights can continue through local midnight are approximately 60.561° (60°33′43″) for civil twilight, 54.561° (54°33′43″) for nautical twilight and 48.561° (48°33′43″) for astronomical twilight.[15][16]

Lowest latitude can be observed at local midnight in month of April:

Civil Twilight: 69°N
Nautical Twilight: 63°N
Astronomical Twilight: 57°N
Lowest latitude can be observed at local midnight in month of May:

Civil Twilight: 62°N
Nautical Twilight: 56°N
Astronomical Twilight: 50°N
Lowest latitude can be observed at local midnight in month of October:

Civil Twilight: 69°S
Nautical Twilight: 63°S
Astronomical Twilight: 57°S
Lowest latitude can be observed at local midnight in month of November:

Civil Twilight: 62°S
Nautical Twilight: 56°S
Astronomical Twilight: 50°S
These are the largest cities of their respective countries where the various twilights can continue through local solar midnight:

Civil twilight from sunset to sunrise: Tampere, Umeå, Trondheim, Tórshavn, Reykjavík, Nuuk, Whitehorse, Anchorage, Arkhangelsk and Baltasound. In the Southern Hemisphere, there are no major permanent settlements far enough South to experience this.
Nautical twilight from civil dusk to civil dawn: Saint Petersburg, Moscow, Vitebsk, Vilnius, Riga, Tallinn, Wejherowo, Flensburg, Helsinki, Stockholm, Copenhagen, Oslo, Newcastle upon Tyne, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Belfast, Letterkenny, Petropavl, Nanortalik, Grande Prairie, Juneau, Ushuaia, and Puerto Williams.
Astronomical twilight from nautical dusk to nautical dawn: Hulun Buir, Erdenet, Nur-Sultan, Samara, Kyiv, Minsk, Alytus, Warsaw, Košice, Paris, Dublin, Zwettl, Prague, Stanley (Falkland Islands), Berlin, Hamburg, Luxembourg City, Brussels, Amsterdam, London, Cardiff, Vancouver, Calgary, Unalaska, Bellingham (largest in the continental USA), Rio Gallegos, and Punta Arenas.
Major cities that near astronomical twilight from nautical dusk to nautical dawn: Khabarovsk (48°29'0"N), Dnipro (48°27'0"N), Victoria (48°25'42"N), Saguenay (48°25′0"N), Brest (48°23′26"N), Thunder Bay (48°22′56″N), Vienna (48°12′30″N), Bratislava (48°8′38″N), Munich (48°8'0"N)
Although Helsinki, Oslo, Stockholm, Tallinn, and Saint Petersburg also enter into nautical twilight after sunset, they do have noticeably lighter skies at night during the summer solstice than other locations mentioned in their category above, because they do not go far into nautical twilight. A white night is a night with only civil twilight which lasts from sunset to sunrise.[17]

At the winter solstice within the polar circle, twilight can extend through solar noon at latitudes below 72.561° (72°33′43″) for civil twilight, 78.561° (78°33′43″) for nautical twilight, and 84.561° (84°33′43″) for astronomical twilight.

On other planets
Twilight on Mars is longer than on Earth, lasting for up to two hours before sunrise or after sunset. Dust high in the atmosphere scatters light to the night side of the planet. Similar twilights are seen on Earth following major volcanic eruptions.[18]

In religion
Christianity

American Benedictine monks around an Easter fire preparing to light the Paschal candle prior to Easter Vigil mass
In Christian practice, "vigil" observances often occur during twilight on the evening before major feast days or holidays. For example, the Easter Vigil is held in the hours of darkness between sunset on Holy Saturday and sunrise on Easter Day — most commonly in the evening of Holy Saturday or midnight — and is the first celebration of Easter, days traditionally being considered to begin at sunset.

Hinduism
Twilight is sacred in Hinduism. It is called गोधूळिवेळ gōdhūḷivēḷ in Marathi or गोधूलिवेला godhūlivelā in Hindi, గొధూళివేళ "godhoolivela" in Telugu, literally "cow dust time". Many rituals, including Sandhyavandanam and Puja, are performed at twilight hour. Eating of food is not advised during this time. Sometimes it is referred to as Asurasandhya vela. It is believed that Asuras are active during these hours. One of the avatars of Lord Vishnu, Narasimha, is closely associated with the twilight period. According to Hindu scriptures, a daemonic king, Hiranakashipa, performed penance and obtained a boon from Brahma that he could not be killed during day or night and neither by human nor animal. Lord Vishnu appeared in a half-man half-lion form (neither human nor animal), ended the life of Hiranakashipa during twilight (neither day nor night).[19]

Islam
Twilight is important in Islam as it determines when certain universally obligatory prayers are to be recited. Morning twilight is when morning prayers (Fajr) are done, while evening twilight is the time for evening prayers (Maghrib prayer). Suhoor (early morning meal) time for fasting (during Ramadan and other times) ends at morning twilight (at dawn). Fasting is from the beginning of dawn to sunset. There is also an important discussion in Islamic jurisprudence between "true dawn" and "false dawn".

Judaism
In Judaism, twilight is considered neither day nor night; consequently it is treated as a safeguard against encroachment upon either. For example, the twilight of Friday is reckoned as Sabbath eve, and that of Saturday as Sabbath day; and the same rule applies to festival days.[20]

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