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ok bell is town probablyIn post 2418, Bell wrote:But the dolphin is scum LLD.
I even said I'd eat Titus's hat if I was wrong.
That's a big hat.
I would die if I ate it.
I'm following in your 1v1 fite me foot steps.
Game plz recognize game.
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not meIn post 2478, The Entity wrote:
Titus this could apply to like half the fucking game at this pointIn post 2474, Titus wrote:Someone asked me for a Nexus case.
Show me Nexus hunting scum. I'll wait.
It's not the most rock solid case but it's good enough for now.-
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im jesting broIn post 2481, VFP wrote:
I would say you as a yes. You have only voiced popular or obvious opinions so far.In post 2480, innocentvillager wrote:not me
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lolIn post 2510, Et Al wrote:and also because she thought she was scum, but that was secondary
okay thanks guys!
probably won't read D2 in its entirety but will try to at least skim through it-
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this readslist feels pretty pure and unperformative, i think i like it too (even without knowing any context)In post 2525, marry wrote:In post 2524, samantha97 wrote:Vaxkiller- I don't believe vaxkiller asking for robert's role was performative, there's also something else I noticed but I forget what it was lol, I'd have to reread
Bell- a beautiful pure soul
gorilla- I am not familiar with gorilla but his posts all have a town mindset, also I'm unironically trusting that prophetic build the zoo email I got
Robert- M Hunter offered role info for no reason that exposed himself to criticism/possible death, playing unlike himself as mafia from what I can tell
Koto- I don't believe mafia ydrasse would replace out over that, unless there was spillover into mafia chat and they are teammates
T3- was not on board with the planned bus to an awkward degree
innocentvillager- outside of hyperparanoid good cop theory, they've taken a lot of risk to be mafia (even with that theory), also I have another not-so-paranoid but still paranoid theory that they are going against as well
i don't have a good sense of samantha scumrange tho-
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meh, maybe mildly town!indicative but feel like even i can fake posts like that (im not very good at scum, for those of u who don't know me)In post 2576, joqiza wrote:Bell idg where the confidence comes from and I'm still stuck on VFP. I took another look and I really.. don't think the slot is aligned with mastina.
- his call-out of cephrir for being scum if mastina is town felt uninformed of mastina's alignment
- I think he believes his marry read
imo posts like "if this flips X (knowing they'll flip Y), I believe this is true because A B C" are also decent content to put out as scum bc you carry no responsibility for the read since after the flip your analysis is meaningless, and ive definitely done it as scum
what about the marry read felt like town and not scum just like faking a push on town?-
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cephrir and titus im not crazy right Bell feels way different this game than TM LN ya?
that one he was like, kinda townish sometiumes but really struggling to obvtown him, here he feels actually present, isn't just shooting down our read confidence, making actual pushes, being snippy at people calling him scum, etc.-
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hm it seems like joqiza and titus at least are pretty against this elimination?In post 2571, The Church of Skitter wrote:I don’t think there’s anyone here that actually thinks VFP is town over a bunch of other players, so I think there is a really good chance of this flipping scum.
even if they weren't, i don't think no one thinking VFP is town here is scum!indicative especially when they are easily picking up votes
idk ur other reason seems fine but this one feels forced and that's not necessarily scum!inidcative for u im just saying i don't necessarily agree with this reason-
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Ya Titus I think we are on the same page about the “hive mind” making it slightly more likely VFP is town (with only that information) unless I’m misunderstanding
joqiza that is interesting and could be true. It’s a little too specific of a narrative for me to put all my eggs in tho, but I’ll keep this in mind
like it feels like there couldve been other ways that this gamestate developed besides the one u are positing. But I wasn’t around for D1 so idk maybe ur just right-
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meh fine, I can see arguments for or against. I agree it’s probably too early to say much about VFP’s ability to get votes as town!indicative for himIn post 2591, joqiza wrote:
I actually want to distance myself from this particular line of logic tho, I don't really agree with this as a reason to TR VFP.In post 2587, Titus wrote:
I do disagree with this. While I could be wrong, I strongly feel VFP is town. The fact they are getting votes indicates a hive mind.In post 2586, innocentvillager wrote:hm it seems like joqiza and titus at least are pretty against this elimination?
even if they weren't, i don't think no one thinking VFP is town here is scum!indicative especially when they are easily picking up votes
idk ur other reason seems fine but this one feels forced and that's not necessarily scum!inidcative for u im just saying i don't necessarily agree with this reason
Second, if VFP were scum, I'd expect Nexus or Robert to go through unless all three were scum.-
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do it you won'tIn post 2736, Save The Dragons wrote:i almost want to nuke marry for posting that nightmare-inducing piglet image-
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this is not a bad takeIn post 2737, gorilla wrote:I actually think his hesitiancy toward Nexus is potentially indicative of him distancing himself from a miselimination on town. I would not be in favor of a shot on Nexus at the present moment.-
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i don't mind this eitherIn post 2737, gorilla wrote:VFP strikes me as the cliche sort of player who'd vote a townie but FOS a buddy in his reads to distance. I think the indicators are pointing toward scum in T3/Dragons/Deathnote/Koto, and dragons strikes me as town otherwise so I'd bet on a scum in the other 3 (that this aligns with my POE is a nice coincidence).
T3/DeathNote/Koto
do you think 2+ of these are ever scum? seems ambitious to me from scum, given that VFP and Nexus were 5 votes apiece at the time (assumign nexus town)
i think the most likely scenario is that exactly 1 of these of is scum-
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i looked at those, it doesn't really answer my question, it just tells me that they were *a wagon*In post 2766, gorilla wrote:You know you can just look at the mod ISO for votecounts, right?
meh. i was mainly just curious because i want to know if the marry push at start of D2 is likely to be a distancing move for their eventual flip, if they were likely to go down i feel like that's more evidence for it being manufactured distancing. im not sure exactly where i was going with this thought, idk something something newby scum tend to be more predictable in their positioning around their partners. idk t's probably not that important-
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pooky was killed N1 in a game i modded because he was hardtunneling on a scum and had another in his small PoE. idk what he did this game but as long as his reads weren't terrible EOD1 and there wasn't an obvious kill target that's probably good enough for a NKIn post 2791, gorilla wrote:I don't think the terrorist killed pooky for being annoying, they killed him because he's a formidable presence (which would be obvious to anyone who's played with him). People tend to be more likely to NK those they have some familiarity with.
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im not disagreeing with what you're saying at all! im agreeing that pooky is good historically im just adding on my own anecdotal insight.In post 2814, gorilla wrote:
1. Pooky gave almost no reads other than Et Al as town as mastina scumIn post 2793, innocentvillager wrote:
pooky was killed N1 in a game i modded because he was hardtunneling on a scum and had another in his small PoE. idk what he did this game but as long as his reads weren't terrible EOD1 and there wasn't an obvious kill target that's probably good enough for a NKIn post 2791, gorilla wrote:I don't think the terrorist killed pooky for being annoying, they killed him because he's a formidable presence (which would be obvious to anyone who's played with him). People tend to be more likely to NK those they have some familiarity with.
But that's just a guess! I could be totally wrong.
2. The N1 NK is from the serial killer, not the Russians. They wouldn't have any idea how good his reads were even if he actually had posted some.
It is extraordinarily tedious to be reciting basic thread history and have you contravening everything I say without having actually looked at any of it.
i understand 2. i think we both mean "reads good" in the sense of where terrorist supposedly was in his pool
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