DEFCON Mafia 5.0: GAME OVER - NEW AMERICA FORMED
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Hello, I'm back I'm still waiting for a school back after tha transfer to a neurosurgeon ready hospial. Guess I'll see whether he needs surgery or not tonight or tomorrow morning.
Anyway,
Mafia.
Gorilla, Prism, Sam, are giving out vibes but I'm not sure if they're town vibes or scum vibes.
Weak incline on town vibe for sam, but I'm not sure how I feel about the town bin.
I'm no sure how I feel about Deasveal following up as third either, not that I have a single clue what the difference between Def con 3 and 5 is. I took it to mean "more talky" "less nuclear"
I know we're here for the nukes, but the only reason we're all still here in this not nuclear wasteland is because people slowed down a little.-
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You're a noob of some kind.In post 222, gorilla wrote:
ScumIn post 221, Bell wrote:Gorilla, Prism, Sam, are giving out vibes but I'm not sure if they're town vibes or scum vibes.
Weak incline on town vibe for sam, but I'm not sure how I feel about the town bin.
I'm no sure how I feel about Deasveal following up as third either, not that I have a single clue what the difference between Def con 3 and 5 is. I took it to mean "more talky" "less nuclear"
I know we're here for the nukes, but the only reason we're all still here in this not nuclear wasteland is because people slowed down a little.-
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Yes, I worded that incorrectly, maybe I should say I wouldn't be trying yet.
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Some people react to wifom by pointing at it and saying outloud, that's wifom.
Like everyone doesn't know already. I also, think that in general just telling the truth and being upfront is a challenge for scum since they have difficulty keeping up. So, if you don't mind I'll continue to wifom it up as I feel that some people actually do keep that kind of stuff in mind and react emotionally to it and i can help them weigh decisions later regarding me and in this case, for town, that would be a good thing.-
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I feel good about Cephrir town, at first I was like nah, but then when I saw him react to Gorilla and I was like, yeh.
I thought about giving Gorilla points for baiting me in retrospect, but let's be real, reaction tests rely more on the performance of the reactee than the one causing the reaction.
Since people are responsible for their own posts, Gorilla isn't getting town points for letting people either trip over themselves as either alignment or fly, high, high, high into the heights of the forever(lock)town.
It's just a vibe tho. I have no strong obvtown reads yet.-
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86, 90. I might have misinterpreted on 86, I interpreted it as Cephrir calling gorilla a dumb ass which is the same sort of pattern that my initial reaction to Gorilla is.In post 241, Et Al wrote:
This is referring to 90?In post 234, Bell wrote:I feel good about Cephrir town, at first I was like nah, but then when I saw him react to Gorilla and I was like, yeh.
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But also, I caution myself, sometimes we just accidentally slap someone down as VI, instead of scum, which makes us the VI.-
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I'm sorry.In post 243, Prism wrote:I guess Bell is town and we don't get our free Russian-
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Shit, I just realized the perfect quip would have been that only americans are free or so we like to tell ourselves.In post 243, Prism wrote:I guess Bell is town and we don't get our free Russian-
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His opening? No, I didn't like that he called me scum and I just lashed out.In post 251, Et Al wrote:
As Ceph pointed out you did misinterpret it yes. But also your comment on him seems pretty similar to mastina's which is interesting. What did you guys dislike so much about his opening?In post 242, Bell wrote:86, 90. I might have misinterpreted on 86, I interpreted it as Cephrir calling gorilla a dumb ass which is the same sort of pattern that my initial reaction to Gorilla is.
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Kind of, kind of not. It was a very vague bad feeling relating to Cephrir's post spacing but it was a bad thought that makes no sense even by my standards. Not enough data, reset. I empathized incorrectly with what I thought was a similar experience, but turned out not to be. This is a bit too much stream of thought to be coherent.In post 256, Et Al wrote:Oh I'm talking about Ceph, sorry that wasn't clear. 234 implies you didn't like Ceph's opening, is that true?
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Why?In post 260, DeasVail wrote:
Also.. I think... this makes DN townIn post 121, DeathNote wrote:I took the time to read what total war does and yes I would like that please.
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S_S has been S_ esque so far, so he's not wrong to expect to be town read for his playstyle. Though the flavor feels different, but could be development/I never really understood how to read him in the first place which I believe as his opinion last I checked.In post 280, Et Al wrote:Yes, I'm aware, it's evidently not clear to you.
Why do you think I would expect to be townread for that?
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P.S. FYI, I leave for work at 6:45AM and get home around 5:00PM.
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Yes, it's RVS and I have no strong reads I'm confident in.In post 300, T3 wrote:At ths point bell feel like high postcount but lacking in content. The reads almost feel forced.
Prism sticks out to me as very townys for the moment. Like Prism threw shade on Vax but offered a reasonable explanation for what it could be. samantha is strong town for the total war thing.-
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This does sound like slightly chill town Titus. but *disclaimer that I could be wrong*In post 355, DeasVail wrote:
I have been reading you as pretty townIn post 352, Titus wrote:
No. It's a very Titus defect.In post 350, Vaxkiller wrote:
so you cant obv town? cmon titusIn post 335, Titus wrote:I actually would want an obvtown player to grab fallout shelter. It'd be shitty for me personally but a way to keep obvtown alive is good.-
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I think this is town mastina, but I'm how Melanque feels about me and how best to approach me is how I feel about Mastina.
Except that with me it's totally unnecessary because I'm not hard to sort while Mastina could be.
Also, my grandpa is out of surgery and it appears that parts of his brain that are involved with language and communication are damaged. It wasn't really the kind of surgery that should have done damage. Since it was dealing with blood flow to the meninges, not the brain itself. Maybe the swelling and pressure had simply progressed within the last 10 hours.
@Mastina, you didn't really answer the question about why you write so much, I'm curious too!
You can't deny that you have written a lot of words in your life time, compared to alot of us fellow humans.-
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I'd like to believe that Mastina just has a very sensitive early false town tell radar.
Rather that she tends to pick up on people who are trying to look town and town reads them.
Especially in RVS.
Like a lamist radar. Maybe. I wonder if scum actually do tend to be more lamist early, that hasn't been my experience at all though. Lamist accusations seem like voodoo bullshit and about as predictive as your local fortune teller.-
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I'm not sure if you're talking to me. My question is no about the point, all scum posts are motivationally directed toward the goal of fooling you. I just wonder if there's an actual statistical significance to people "trying to seem town" versus just being town.In post 373, Nexus wrote:The point of LAMIST posting is that it’s a way of trying to seem town because scum know they aren’t town. As a hydra in a game with anti hydra people which had already been told that there was a desire to nuke hydras, LAMIST actions are a good way to try and deflect. That’s why I think you did it, because you are hyper aware of the fact that as a hydra you will automatically face pressure, which, if you were town, you’d find easier to deflect, but as your PM was a scum PM, you found it stressful and needed something to do. Your reactions also haven’t changed my mind.
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@Mena, unless this wasn't you, in which case I'M SORRY.In post 248, The Church of Skitter wrote:
I mean, yes, probably?In post 243, Prism wrote:I guess Bell is town and we don't get our free Russian
But my experience with scum!Bell has always been "He's townie at first but if you wait you'll find out he actually stopped playing the game and isn't townie anymore" so its usually just best to keep an open mind about these things.
@mastina, I see. I don't have autism, but I struggle often with trying to be exact enough to be understood, but concise enough that people actually read what I write (at work, in mafia, I don't try as hard for that balance). It's a difficult road to navigate. Though striving to describe things well is cool.-
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Not sure, the only town read that I feel comfortable with RN is Mastina.In post 392, Cephrir wrote:Joqiza is maybe confirmed town for posting this at least-
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No,no I don't like that rule, I was just feeling out if you were an alt without asking you directly. I don't mind if you've never played mafia before and this is your first game or you're a filthy alt hiding from the eyes of their more respectable peers. I just think it helps to know who is and isn't an alt so I have a better idea of where you're at and where you're coming from.In post 414, marry wrote:I'll adapt quickly it's just the new site that I'm feeling out. I got an invite
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Exactly. Also, the game is out of RVS because most people have correctly identified town bell. It's not RVS anymore if there were no votes and also, if someone already has a pretty good idea that at least one(1) player is town.In post 418, Cephrir wrote:After all, you can't just lie about being an alt on the internet.
Also, Joqiza sounds like he's telling the truth, but my ears are bad and I could be wrong.
I'm seriously considering just putting in my signature " but I could be wrong" to save myself the trouble of communicating this every post.-
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Refuge_Could_SaveIn post 426, joqiza wrote:i'm about to change the game
https://voca.ro/16bgXWOmBRj1
Spoiler: Transcript lol
i'm conftown now
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Why? What do you scum read me for now?In post 445, T3 wrote:I scumread bell, so Im not sure about this.-
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Am I still scum?In post 454, gorilla wrote:
Ask in the mafia QT for helpIn post 452, Robert M Hunter wrote:I'm totally lost.-
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This isn’t a valid argument anymore in my opinion, it demonstrates a lack of adaptation and flexibility/reactivity that new scum sometimes struggle with. How many times have you rolled scum T3?In post 464, T3 wrote:
High postcount, low content.In post 450, Bell wrote:
Why? What do you scum read me for now?In post 445, T3 wrote:I scumread bell, so Im not sure about this.-
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Natural 20. "You sound very confident, I'd love to sheep you, but you failed your charisma check! Please try again and explain it to me like I'm five years old."In post 480, The Entity wrote:I mean, because she is. Haven't you been reading?-
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You didn't update your read until you got pressured.In post 491, T3 wrote:I didn't like DeasVails tr on DeathNote. Bell, why?-
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It's a pain even for me to explain it.
Divergent should be clear enough. When I'm scum I don't emulate my town play. If you want examples just click my name and go to search topics and pick a town scum and a scum game and see the difference. I guess my most recent scum game was in team mafia and my most recent town game is warehouse 13.-
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I'm upside down on Mastina with a lot of scum huners tha I know are better than me.
I am confused. She's posting small and not really reacting to votes or suspicion thrown at her, but otherwise everything she's saying sems like her town game to some extent.
Well, maybe not, she says true stuff as scum all he time.
Would anyone actually like to explain it.
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This is in effect the same thing.In post 729, The Church of Skitter wrote:hmm
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yeah, you're misinterpreting me. I'm saying gorilla's post was plain.In post 744, The Church of Skitter wrote:ya ig I am stating the obvious. If u townread me for stating the obvious ur bad idunno a nicer way to put it tbh.-
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The mary pooky interaction does feel slightly weird.
I can't really tell if it's just outgoing Marry who is relaxed town just trying to make jokes,
If they're scum with Pooky and trying to figure out how to talk to one another, but they're coming off forced or trying to emulate themselves through a fun house mirror.
Or if they're just scum looking for something to do.
I dunno, they all sound sort of plausible to me and, you know, there's a lot of other possibilities.-
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