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Removed dead ppl confirmed to not be strongman/scum.
Tell me RealCheeks who here is the strongman.
Mandelbrot already claimed and their ability is confirmed by me
Toog has been instrumental in eliminating both Cakez and EJ, although less on cakez, that one was mostly Romance, but he literally negated his fake claim.
mastina has also pushed EJ and been pushed by EJ the majority of the game, their actions dont like like SvS.
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Why?In post 5368, RealCheeks wrote:you know it is smarter to kill the roleblocker than the strongman
At this point all killing the roleblocker will do is they dont roleblock me, then they just kill me, or alternatively try to outsmart my healing (which isnt hard anyway if last night is any indication).
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Will we
Finallyget some non-AA9 thoughts?
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between RC and QR i rather RC atm.In post 5377, Mandelbrot wrote:I'm down for either, Sakura.I bloom in spring?
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Correct, although probably not the strongman with an ability like that so, we still got a strongman to hunt in that list.In post 5385, RealCheeks wrote:Mandelbrot ability is not AII bloom in spring?
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Anyway to reiterate.
We know there's still a scum strongman out there (Titus died with bulletproof).
We know there's still a scum roleblocker out there (Romance was roleblocked N2).
We know Mandelbrot is neither of those roles because I confirm their ability, even if they're scum (which i dont think they are), they cannot be either of those 2, so they're lowest priorityI bloom in spring?
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Btw, the only reason I suspect the strongman being in the first raid is because it would mean Mirio was strongman'd (Which makes sense if they got an extra shot they might as well use it N1). The only chance is... if considering i never hinted or claimed my role D1, scum decided to randomly roleblock me and got lucky.
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I did, Romance had +1 ShotIn post 5403, Dwlee99 wrote:
Read Romance's flip yoIn post 5398, Sakura Hana wrote:Anyway to reiterate.
We know there's still a scum strongman out there (Titus died with bulletproof).
We know there's still a scum roleblocker out there (Romance was roleblocked N2).
We know Mandelbrot is neither of those roles because I confirm their ability, even if they're scum (which i dont think they are), they cannot be either of those 2, so they're lowest priorityI bloom in spring?
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That raid failed.
And the strong modifier is only for that specific night.I bloom in spring?
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The player gets the modifier added to their actions, factional kill is an action.In post 5418, Mystic Bears wrote:How does a factional kill get a modifier? Is that even a thing?
It works the same way as a base Mafia Strongman, just that in that case the player has the modifier attached to their role, but it still modifies their actions.I bloom in spring?
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So who's the strongman?In post 5431, RealCheeks wrote:{Dwlee99, mastina, Sakura Hana, TC}
{Toogeloo, Mystic Bears, Bell, tictac, Mandelbrot}
{Qrow and Raven, STD, WhemeStar}
Easymode.
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Maybe because you're scum?In post 5424, RealCheeks wrote:Actually another thought - why would scum kill Romance instead of RBing them and killing Sakura? Romance being here would easily have had us elimmed faster than killing them imo.
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Maybe because they think i'd be easier to push than Romance as long as i cant heal?
Maybe because for the LOLz?
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Why isnt it right?In post 5443, RealCheeks wrote:
I actually don't think your strongman theory is right so I'm working on a basis that makes sense to me and after you flip me and MB you'll be like omg cheeky is so wise and amazing and I should have listened.In post 5441, Sakura Hana wrote:I dont, but RCheeks doesnt have anyone in the potential strongman PoE in their scumreads, which is weird.
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If it was me i think MB has higher chance of being scum, but Romance has had better reads than me so I'm listening to her this timeIn post 5447, Mandelbrot wrote:
Honestly, I'm still on RC out of respect for Romance & you.In post 5441, Sakura Hana wrote:I dont, but RCheeks doesnt have anyone in the potential strongman PoE in their scumreads, which is weird.
As annoying as they are, their posts are feeling town to me, today.
I just know how much I can waffle.
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And why would scum RB me N1?In post 5452, RealCheeks wrote:
I think you got RB'D D1 and that's why scum let you live instead of Romance since the pool all seem town to me now.In post 5446, Sakura Hana wrote:Of course, unless you're suggesting that scum has a 2 (or more shot) strongman on top of 1/3 of the raids giving +1 shots and another 1/3 of the raids giving strongman without having to use their shots is nice game balance.
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Over the other ppl on the day 1 raid?
After I said that the day 1 raid wasnt useful to me?I bloom in spring?
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No because Mirio died while I was healing him.In post 5470, RealCheeks wrote:So the other possibility exists that the strongman exists outside the PoE.
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So strongman has shot twice within the time they could only have gained a single +1 from the first raid.
If you think strongman has more than 1 shot then:
If you think I got roleblocked then:In post 5446, Sakura Hana wrote:Of course, unless you're suggesting that scum has a 2 (or more shot) strongman on top of 1/3 of the raids giving +1 shots and another 1/3 of the raids giving strongman without having to use their shots is nice game balance.In post 5457, Sakura Hana wrote:Over the other ppl on the day 1 raid?
After I said that the day 1 raid wasnt useful to me?I bloom in spring?
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No because there's still a roleblocker, so romance dying while i was healing her could mean either of those 2 scenarios, since scum DOES know now that im a doctor, they didnt N1.In post 5471, Qrow and Raven wrote:
If you had stayed on Romance, we’d know for sure because you didn’t, we have no way of knowing if strongman was used last night or not.In post 5464, Sakura Hana wrote:Or they could just be town who refuse to see the Light, idk.
It's still kinda impossible for the strongman to not be in that list.
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Strongman isnt a threat if they are out of shots, which they certainly are because i doubt GIF decided to give one person randomly 2 shot instead of 1 shot.In post 5480, Qrow and Raven wrote:
If you’ve been paying attention the raids are repeating themselves in the exact same order, right? D1: X shot. D2: strongwilled D3: bp, D4: X shot. D5: strongwilled, so D6 will most likely be bp again, which means we absolutely should kill strongman because strongman is a bigger threat tomorrow. We don’t want a replay of what happened with Titus.In post 5469, mastina wrote:
Well if you want to hit the roleblocker you shouldn't be voting RealCheeks as they cannot be the roleblocker.In post 5324, Sakura Hana wrote:At this point i dont care much about the roleblocker and im resigned to the fact that maybe i should just play like a VT until we hit the roleblocker.
Strongman? Sure, but as you said, roleblocker's bigger threat.
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The roleblocker doesnt necessarily need to be a priority today if we can keep all the sus people outside of the raid.
Gonna ISO mastina to confirm or she could answer it herself, but iirc she said she can auto succeed an incomplete raid? Which makes this process easier.I bloom in spring?
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Didn't Elsa do this too thoIn post 5484, RealCheeks wrote:You could be right, it could just be MB but they're basically signing their death warrant being uncooperative with town. Which I don't think scum do? Unless they need to survive to a certain point for some reason?I bloom in spring?
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Yes, but they have no way of knowing if im a town role with unlimited shots or a VT. Over... the people in the raid who presumably wanted the reward.In post 5484, RealCheeks wrote:The last reason, if scum have a combination of 1-shot and unlimited roles like RB the from a balance perspective town is bound to have those roles too, so it could be seen that you were a PR that didn't require refills because VTs dont say anything do they?I bloom in spring?
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Well since you're so sure MB is town then i guess you're the strongman, sorry not sorry.
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I could believe this, considering Romance wanted RealCheeks dead.In post 5491, Mystic Bears wrote:Also if i were scum, Sakura would've died last night. I dont think Sakura is deep wolf but if she is, we're screwed anyways so it doesn't matter i guess.
The only case I could ever be scum here would literally be if like Roleblocker was 1 shot and out of shots but otherwise I dont think i ever shoot Romance over Sakura.
And is adamant about you being town and trying to disprove my PoE theory that's cornering scum.I bloom in spring?
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This is where i was gonna go originally today, but.In post 5501, mastina wrote:However, we also had a similar basically-50/50 for the scum roleblocker which is why voting WhemeStar is better here.
1) Romance's dying wish in the neighborhood was to eliminate RealCheeks, and I trust her reads better than mine.
2) Due to the reward today, there's no real reason to eliminate the roleblocker today as long as they are kept away from the raid.
But i'll eliminate wheme if that's what the majority wants, for me they are both scum anyway.I bloom in spring?
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Planning to, but I dont want an accidental hammer before the raid is ready just in case, i rather better be safe than sorry, if Wheme is the roleblocker this isnt important, but if he isnt then... i guess we gotta give a stern look at STD.In post 5518, Mandelbrot wrote:
Then vote Wheme, no?In post 5514, Sakura Hana wrote:As I've been saying all scum has to do is roleblock me and shoot wherever they want to shoot and they dont need the strongman for that.
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N2 was a janitor kill.In post 5517, Qrow and Raven wrote:Like we literally have proof of a strongman kill N2I bloom in spring?
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strongman cant bypass strong heal, but strong roleblock can block strong heal.In post 5521, mastina wrote:
Not if we kill the scum strongman today. Then they're forced to kill you since they can't kill your doc save, and they can't wait until tomorrow because you get BP tomorrow.In post 5514, Sakura Hana wrote:As I've been saying all scum has to do is roleblock me and shoot wherever they want to shoot and they dont need the strongman for that.
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So you agree that there's a chance that Wheme isnt the roleblocker?In post 5538, mastina wrote:
I mean.In post 5536, Sakura Hana wrote:mastina how sure are you that STD is town?
Not very.
I believe this to be STD's towngame but I'm not sure;
I believe STD's softclaim to be town-indicative but I'm not sure.
But if the choice is STD vs. WhemeStar, WhemeStar is more scum to me.I bloom in spring?
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I mean, this is interesting because I've seen GIF do scum that can double kill their target before.In post 5547, Mandelbrot wrote:
That's how I'm used to protectives in general working, personally.In post 5543, Sakura Hana wrote:Well I just learned something new from talking to GIF.
The bulletproof for 1 night is a single kill protection, not a full one.
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Which is effectively a strongman, but then the Ifrit reward becomes scarier.
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Well... dont disagree with the threat, but can you hold off on voting wheme until the raid is set.In post 5573, Qrow and Raven wrote:
I’m thinking Mastina maybe right. Wheme has just been coasting and at least Cheeky and STD are doing things.In post 5563, RealCheeks wrote:Has STD or Wheme claimed? StD softed PR when they were refusing yo get off the raid.
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Wheme claim or I’m voting you.
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WaaaaitIn post 5588, Qrow and Raven wrote:VOTE: Wheme
I think it’s pretty damned obvious, Wheme is scum here.
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