Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)
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ngl i would have not hesitated to bury you and my serious consideration if your claim was real or not based on the weird restriction you claimed and later reevaling it after realizing catboi's role was intensely weird too is like kinda non-TMI indicative on my end but I don't think anyone who wants to scumread will try to see that anyways.-
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At least you admit the spite lmao.In post 6071, Nero Cain wrote:maybe. I could understand he'd make sense as a catboi buddy b/c he yelled and pleaded with people to hammer Toog to potentially keep catboi from elimination.
but A.) Mena does scummy dumb things
B.) I'm being spiteful b/c I think you are mafia that intentionally went after not wolf scum b/c mafia you have motivation to keep them alive.
Want to kill Malcom then?
I don't think killing maf CSF will save FL here based on how people are refusing to consider the slot and without your vote its frankly hopeless and I think ur just preflipping me to townread them without evaluating them on their own but oh well-
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There was a masonry based vig in the original run of the setup theme so lolIn post 6074, Nero Cain wrote:
this really irks me. Like what do you know about the games balance?In post 6007, MalcolmTucker wrote:I agree Flavor is likely mafia on balance of things
there's a flipped town voyer
a flipped wolf bookie
2 claimed 1x gs
a vt claim
a parity cop claim
a monkery and a masonary.
I might be forgetting some claims but I don't see how a town you, with the same info as me, can determine whether or not a vig exists based on balance.-
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Well I think you should try reevaling if you reached similar scumreads as me for mafia after I already outted my reads there.In post 6075, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, its not spite spite like I dislike you so much that I'm intentionally ignoring the game to spite you just that I don't trust that your mena read is truthful.
Mena likes to be a lurkfuck as scum and loses a lot of steam as the game goes - and that's present here, and he has no fire in his play.
VOTE: Malcom
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butter I called out d1 but I kinda got converted to it and I had a strong townread on Norwee so i thought they were town but I was willing to reconsider bc of a recent game I just finished where I misread norwee horriblyIn post 6078, Nero Cain wrote:pretty sure I was calling yd-butter scum before you did, not that I really care. My Malcolm thing is just that he was going to bat for Butterchurn and that "Boon is scum based on balance." just seems wildly dumb.
mena seems like a useless lurksack regardless of alignment so...
but yes maybe u are right but I still uh didnt just copy your reads.-
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i think the recent voted kinda freaked me.out reads wise ay csf and then csf vote on fl kinda snapped me.back so i think i wanma go from my townreads and go from.there and see how i fare
i think nero has a good portion of the solve and i have another portion just in the way is seeing me as scum which uh frankly is just laziness on neros part in trying to find me town imho but whatever lol.
Im feeling bad about trying to force a mafia lim in the sense i feel not confident about pinning down a specific mafia that can actually be limmed and i feel safer limming peoppe i think are obviously spewed wolf off of catboi wagon stuff but yeah :/
To people FOSing me - what is it that you would need to find me town here? Because really what it boils down to the difference between my town and scum play is *lacking* aspects of my town game and being a shell of my town game and i feel its been pretty blatant im town in how i have shown progression but perhaps people dont have the holsitic pov of being aware of all my posts idk :/-
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bunny/FL/StD/cass/nero/sword of ducks all town IMHO
idc if you dont trust me atp i just want to express im going to push this as explicitly pure as i generally have been today and I dont want the elimination on any of these slots 100%
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j think the disjointed behavior and lack of trust of eachother easily also points to all these players being unpaired
FL/std/myself have been suspicious of eachother d1 but i think we've reached a point of at least townleaning eachother.-
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It makes perfect sense. It makes him less likely to shoot into the monastery.In post 6174, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I still don't think it makes sense for FL's kill condition to be tied to keeping possible scum alive.
I still think it's more possible for him to be scum who decided to fake claim vig than actual vig.
I still think we don't want FL to be around in the late portions of the game.
I still think FL being eliminated is better than any potential vig beneifit.-
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no i actually did not suspect a thing but now this helps me solidify a read on youIn post 6181, bnuuy wrote:Welp that cats out of the bag
Not like it wasn’t extremely easy to figure out tho
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And WW will potentially just shoot there to shut him down lolIn post 6184, Nero Cain wrote:Granted, I think his CSF reasoning is...bizarre to say the least, and it's notIMPOSSIBLEthat he rolled scum and decided to fakeclaim vig but the extra kill is helpful for town. Even if he were roleblocked that's still unblocking a potentially useful role.-
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what did I say about catboi?In post 6197, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Yeah that's what they said about catboi and toog.
I asked you a while ago to prove I townread catboi past my initial read. Did you find it?-
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Let me explain this like you are 5 years old:
My role is a Monk
what that means, is that I am in a chat with other people.
And there is something very special about those people
The special thing is that we are all confirmed to not be possible to be the alignment "Werewolf".
And since we know that me, SCP 682, cannot be possibly a werewolf that means I cannot be teamed with anyone who is a werewolf ever.
And now we look at the kill from last night: catboi was revealed to be a Werewolf.
Now this means that it is impossible that I was ever scum with catboi.
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Buddy.In post 6202, MonkeyMan576 wrote:In post 5780, MonkeyMan576 wrote:In post 2497, SCP 682 wrote:catboi, I think that it is advisable to just leave FL be here for now. I think you are both town.
Ah I forgot about that.
I thought the AtE from catboi was genuine at the time. But I later discarded it.
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https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... Variations
here is a helpful link for you to educate yourself on monks if that doesnt make sense to you or for some reason you are so confbiased that you cannot understand logic from me-
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I'm towny as fuck and you're too lazy to read me as a whole.In post 6206, Nero Cain wrote:its almost like there's a scum faction thats not WW...-
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I am claiming you are being completely illogical in trying to scumread me for how I acted around catboi.In post 6210, MonkeyMan576 wrote:So you are claiming confirmed not werewolf, but not necessarily not mafia it sounds like.-
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What's the bad vibe from??In post 6211, bnuuy wrote:
your give a bad vibe rn, and I feel like your deflection of Keeper’s accusations was scummyIn post 6183, SCP 682 wrote:
no i actually did not suspect a thing but now this helps me solidify a read on youIn post 6181, bnuuy wrote:Welp that cats out of the bag
Not like it wasn’t extremely easy to figure out tho
talk to me abt ur scumread on me
If this is about me, I TRed you correctly in our last game together (I don’t count that large)In post 6185, Nero Cain wrote:A player that has incorrectly scumread me for 5 games in a row suddenly not hard scumreading me...hrmmm
Please ellaborate gamma.
Now that I know its you, I know exactly how to push you to get you to full alignment tell after the ace attorney game. You won't get away with safe takes.-
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at least nero i understand why bc they prob preflipped ydrasse/norwee and butter
see how i treat those slots
and then combined with seeing me pushing toog without really trying to understand my thought process makes for a fun confbias.
its pretty level 1 logic and nero is easily town there but i can actually see where the thoughts came from and link them to his reads.-
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also mfw nero prob did preflip butter and then this is like one of my very first postsIn post 2486, SCP 682 wrote:VOTE: Butterchurn
I got scum pings on reading this slot like half an hour ago I just remembered
Going to ISO and see if I can substantiate, but I am reminded of this Mini Normal in which Butterchurn was mafia: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88570-
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why am i scum then?In post 6222, Nero Cain wrote:
I don't really get this. I think they are scum yes, but why does it make me think you are scum with them?In post 6215, SCP 682 wrote:at least nero i understand why bc they prob preflipped ydrasse/norwee and butter
see how i treat those slots
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let me explain why:In post 6223, bnuuy wrote:and yet you thought I could have been scum in the Datisi normal
Anyway, I feel like your opening today was suspicious as hell. I dislike how you threw Flavor Lead under the bus when accusations came that your monastery could have a scum.
I thought FL's role at the time was impossible as claimed because I was under the assumption that FL made up his claim and was scumclaiming with the Normal setup in mind. I was under the impression that only Normal roles, with WW versions being parallels of the Mafia versions and no more.
Later it was pointed out to me that bookie was a role(catboi's flipped role) which I had not really read closely at the time. This had opened the door on weirder roles and thus FL's claim was more legitimate.
As well as the viability that FL *WOULD* vig catboi. I didn't care about lack of other kills, because the only thing that mattered is the most viable kill for a vig!FL was in the graveyard.
And that progression is very clear if anyone were to bother to read.
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That much is clear.In post 6226, Nero Cain wrote:I read very very little of anything that happened before I replaced in.-
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In post 6235, Nero Cain wrote:
my reasoning for thinking you were scum is b/c I felt you were blatantly wolf hunting.In post 6224, SCP 682 wrote:why am i scum then?
I also think you are being very conscious and worried about your appearance.
In post 6167, SCP 682 wrote:To people FOSing me - what is it that you would need to find me town here?In post 6168, SCP 682 wrote:we end up with me as the chained mislim
I am wolf hunting and mafia hunting
and the 2nd point is Koba indicative not scum Koba indicative.-
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It is much easier to fucking wolf hunt with a flipped wolf too so frankly you are just commenting on me taking an easier route and now struggling to find mafia without a mafia flip while our fucking reads line up for the most part on the mafia side.
You're confbiased as shit and I think you probably dont scumread me as hard as you were earlier but just think you have to be right on me for whatever reason.
I hope butter flips mafia and that shuts you up about me-
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Subject: Mini 2240: SCP UPick 2 (Day 8)
SCP 999 wrote:im gonna try to sit down and hard solve this game tonight please dont hammer shit and if you're on wagon pls unvote
i want to clear my preconceptions and try to review the game and try to get into the mindset like im a spectator - i very much *hate* a limlo situation here because i wpmt be able to solve properly bc i can feel being pushed on or even a random vote towards me.
guys koba was self conscious in this game they R SCUMZ LOLE-
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Subject: Mini 2240: SCP UPick 2 (Day 8)
OH fuck im clowninGuyInFreezer wrote:T3, aligned withSCP foundation Researcher, was eliminated Night 8.
Spoiler: Role PM
SCP 999, aligned withSCP foundation Researcher, was endgamed.
Spoiler: Role PM
Dwlee99, aligned withInfiltrator, survived and won!
Spoiler: Role PM
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at least we got scum cephrir in that situation because i was able to find you town lolIn post 6246, Enchant wrote:
Most sad thing is that i called out right scumteam like instantly after replacing.In post 6244, SCP 682 wrote:Subject: Mini 2240: SCP UPick 2 (Day 8)
OH fuck im clowninGuyInFreezer wrote:T3, aligned withSCP foundation Researcher, was eliminated Night 8.
Spoiler: Role PM
SCP 999, aligned withSCP foundation Researcher, was endgamed.
Spoiler: Role PM
Dwlee99, aligned withInfiltrator, survived and won!
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I was raised in mafia on playing a solo playstyle and am not as comfortable playing as a team but to claim this is so dishonest dude. I am trying to assemble several people I find town and get them to townread eachother. I would call that teambuilding. Who's on YOUR team?In post 6249, MonkeyMan576 wrote:SCP is not playing a team game in my opinion, the way townies should play.-
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you literally are not reading half my postsIn post 6170, SCP 682 wrote:bunny/FL/StD/cass/nero/sword of ducks all town IMHO
idc if you dont trust me atp i just want to express im going to push this as explicitly pure as i generally have been today and I dont want the elimination on any of these slots 100%
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j think the disjointed behavior and lack of trust of eachother easily also points to all these players being unpaired
FL/std/myself have been suspicious of eachother d1 but i think we've reached a point of at least townleaning eachother.-
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Both of those people are in the masonry ergo I am not allowed to wolf hunt because that is scummy according to you so I need to prove that I can flip Mafia.In post 6260, Nero Cain wrote:then you idots need to stop voting Nashville and CSF and help me kill Meg or Klick-
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Nero is transparently town.In post 6261, Dunnstral wrote:
They have fallen off in activity and it's not beyond reason that they could be a member of an anti-town faction here. I don't have a strong read beyond that. I'm not really interested in compromising, though. If not FL it's going to be Nero for continuously sidestepping questionsIn post 6054, Save The Dragons wrote:butterchurn come join us on csf
malcolm come join us on csf
nero
enchant come join us on csf
dunnstral do you have thoughts on csf
I am actually shocked at you somehow finding both FL and Nero scum here - I need some concrete reasoning from you. "Sidestepping questions" needs to be substantiated with examples.-
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I kinda remembered part of why I want CSF dead, and it has to do with the complexity of their reads and how flat they come off as in posts such as this:In post 2169, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:VOTE: Nashville Dreams
I'm all caught up, although admittedly I kind of skimmed the last bits of the Well Done and Flavor argument since i don't think I got anything out of that. I still think the Nashville Dreams case is better than anything those two are slinging at each other though.
I'm tentatively townleaning Flavor -- I'm vibing some of his main scumreads and coming around to scum!catboi, whose 1498 pinged me and because his weird townread on mastina on page 72. mastina is also scummy -- I wasn't feeling her vague butterchurn push or the momo PT thing. I also find Flavor pretty manipulative as town in general, so I'm not sure the points made against him are AI.
I also think Klick could be scum -- his posts pinged me as pocket-y, like when he was talking to Mena about filler stuff on page 61 instead of taking the time to work with Mena on reads.
where its like trying to look like scumhunting but ultimately its super flat. granted like multiball ik but also this just isn't explicitly *townie*In post 5645, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Ydrasse could also be scum
Or town with a bad use of their role, but i think it is just unlikely that catboi and flavor were aligned based on how catboi replaced out so that parity cop check has me raising eyebrows-
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and like when there are scumreads its weak ass reasoning like this lolIn post 1916, Well Done wrote:We think that Flavor Leaf is scum and has taken great efforts to establish narratives this game to control the flow of the game. Setting up strong ideas that it is this person vs that person, or that this other person is pocketing people, that scum are covering for Catboi and that mastina is a good elimination (she's not). They feel like they're talking past us and setting up their own version of events for this game. It doesn't feel like he is focused on finding and killing scum so much as trying to push narratives today and trying to get people to think about the game in certain ways.
VOTE: Flavor Leaf
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yes I just got to that within their ISO, was strange. Feels like a gimmick atp.In post 6283, cassowary wrote:didn't well done also do a similar 'why won't you answer my questions' thing on nashville
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