LOST (Game Over)

[ProfessorDrapion]

If y’all stopped making bad moves the day would already be over.


But nooooooooo
You guys always gotta fall right into wolf agenda.

If your a wolf Luke, do me a favour and just blame yourself for it:

I am voting Ceph.

What more do you want from me right now?

To convince the others to vote Ceph so we can get the info Yeet and end the fucking day on a half decent note.

[ProfessorDrapion]

6 No-lim (Off the Hook, Mathblade, Rad, PookyTheMagicalBear, Dancing Puppets, Cat Scratch Fever

Not Voting (Cytosine and Guanine, Enchant, Bellaphant, BlueBloodedToffee, Dwlee99, Best Bird)

@ Gamma/Marci
@ Rad
@ Nancy
@ CSF
@ C+g
@ Enchant
@ Bella
@ BBT
@ Dwlee


Please.

Here I’ll help you Luke.



Y’all need to get off your hind chairs take a step onto the wonderful tool known as a keyboard and type up the name “Cephrir” then do the vote command and insert that name there and paste it.

It can be naked, we honestly don’t care at this point but I want Ceph to go over and I want it soon.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Professor I was enjoying playing with you last night and I am happy to do the dance if you are. But not if you are working backwards from my mislim and nothing else matters, there's no point.

Are you voting Ceph?
If you are then nice, start convincing others.
If your not, then go do it!

[ProfessorDrapion]

I don’t plan to vote you next T-Bone but if I find something that spews you wolf I will push you as you shouldn’t have something like that if your town.

So I’ll ask you, did you respond to Frog’s “TvTvT” wagon post and agree with him or not?

[ProfessorDrapion]

I am voting Ceph and begging everyone to do the same.

Thanks!
Appreciate it, I don’t mean any hard feelings when I say stuff so I’m sorry if I look like an asshole at times but I play to win and find out wolves. I go hard on wolves or who I think is a wolf that’s just what I do.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Desiring control over anything in a game that has parallels to congress is a recipe for unhappiness.

I’m sorry what?

[ProfessorDrapion]

Parallels to congress?

[ProfessorDrapion]

Okay making this my last post of the day I'm contributing to the problem. We can resume tomorrow Professor.

If I post again flash wagon me.

Then I better have protection on me tonight so I don’t die tomorrow.

[ProfessorDrapion]

*deep breath*
Okay I get the anger. Sort of.

I'm just going to push for Taly's death now if nothing has changed.


Can we please eliminate Taly thank you.

No, we will not eliminate obvious town.

[ProfessorDrapion]

If you’re reading this, please vote Cephrir, you don’t need to read the last 302 pages.

[ProfessorDrapion]

on reflection I am willing to move T-Bone to town and recommend we eliminate Mathblade / Frogster

Yes, but we vote Cephrir because he is legit confirmed to be wolf with one of them if he’s wolf.

[ProfessorDrapion]

There’s a real good chance Cephrir is wolf and I don’t like how Bell is pushing for Taly so hard RN.
He realizes that if Cephrir flips wolf it looks REAL bad on him.

[ProfessorDrapion]

So let’s flip Cephrir wolf and then we can start pressuring Bell.

[ProfessorDrapion]

*deep breath*
Okay I get the anger. Sort of.

I'm just going to push for Taly's death now if nothing has changed.


Can we please eliminate Taly thank you.

No, we will not eliminate obvious town.

You'll cope. You've probably compromised worse on less important things.

You’ll cope with me. I win games. I am Town.
IDC if your wolf, you will lose because I’m town.
Face the facts, that’s how it goes.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I'm here for this.

Professor, is there some reason you're just trolling me at this point?

Not trolling.
I’ll legit pressure you hard tomorrow if Cephrir flips wolf even though the day will end on either Math/Frog because lol spewed wolf there by Cephrir but I will make sure your heard as potential wolf as well.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Because all I can see is that you're trolling me at this point. Because you know better. You've played mafia for years right?
You'll live.

I hope.

I’ll prosper if we vote Cephrir.
I’ll tell you that much.


And trust me if your town you want me to prosper, if your wolf you don’t want me to prosper at all.

So each time you refuse the call or keep calling me a troll it’ll keep admitting your wolf with the fear.
So if your not wolf I suggest you follow me on this one.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Allow me to Prosper.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Prove to me I miss read you.
When we flip Cephrir and they flip wolf, be the first to push Math/Frog tomorrow and make sure it’s the wolf flip.

[ProfessorDrapion]

@bell

[ProfessorDrapion]

Because all I can see is that you're trolling me at this point. Because you know better. You've played mafia for years right?
You'll live.

I hope.

I’ll prosper if we vote Cephrir.
I’ll tell you that much.


And trust me if your town you want me to prosper, if your wolf you don’t want me to prosper at all.

So each time you refuse the call or keep calling me a troll it’ll keep admitting your wolf with the fear.
So if your not wolf I suggest you follow me on this one.

I love confidence gaming and asking people to trust them in a game of deception.
Tell me more about it. Tell me more about how you're talking out of every side of your mouth all at once.

Well you see.
It’s a skill that comes with experience.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Also I’m gonna steal this point from Math even thought he might be wolf informed Taly is Town.


if Taly flips town scum aren’t accountable
And if Taly flips town no one gets town cred except maybe one player

@Bell

You need to realize we get more out of Cephrir, if you can’t then you either need to rethink and re-eval allot of your reads or at least some. Or your a wolf, so what’s it gonna be?

[ProfessorDrapion]

Vote Taly.

@JF: I can't tell if you're open wolfing.

I think he’s saying he thinks your wolf.

[ProfessorDrapion]

What 180 on Taly?

Btw I tested positive for covid so I likely won’t be active very much

v/la until sometime

I probably will make the posting once or twice a day but effort is hard

Aw man that’s unfortunate bud.
Take care of yourself, try and get well the best you can!

[ProfessorDrapion]

You haven't given a compelling reason for why they're town.
In fact, I gave reasons for why they were scum and town and you've largely just said meta. Like, don't get me wrong you're statistically likely to be right.
But that's it. It's empty.

When did I say Meta?
I said I was against Meta?
Did you not read me when I explained that the initial Taly wagon started was extremely wolf motivated?

[ProfessorDrapion]

Hey Taly do you think it’s possible Bell is wolf from your neighbour PT?

[ProfessorDrapion]

Vote Taly.

@JF: I can't tell if you're open wolfing.

I think he’s saying he thinks your wolf.

I was referring to his post about calling Taly obv town by quoting their post and that was it. It could have been a wry statement. Because otherwise it doesn't make a lot of sense in context.


@Taly, I'll read it. But unless it's an IC claim I hope it's just your funeral reads.

Taly is ObvTown.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I’ve stated that serval times.
Acknowledge and respond to this post please Bell.
Or else.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Also I’m gonna steal this point from Math even thought he might be wolf informed Taly is Town.


if Taly flips town scum aren’t accountable
And if Taly flips town no one gets town cred except maybe one player

@Bell

You need to realize we get more out of Cephrir, if you can’t then you either need to rethink and re-eval allot of your reads or at least some. Or your a wolf, so what’s it gonna be?

I'd like you to prove this. I'd like you to write a book on it with an empirical rationale. But it's goose lint.

I’d like you to actually read posts because if you ISO both of them, you’ll see what I’m talking about.

[ProfessorDrapion]

9 Cephrir (ProfessorDrapion, JohnnyFarrar, Taly, Off the Hook, T-Bone, Lukewarm, PookyTheMagicalBear, Rad, Dancing Puppets)
8 Taly (Dunnstral, Cephrir, Frogsterking, Klick, MalcolmTucker, RCEnigma, Roden, Bell)

What 180 on Taly?

I thought you flipped your read on them, if I misunderstood you, please feel free to correct me on that.

I have no read

My top theory is she is scum but that’s a theory

back it up with a vote im tired of this fencesitting

I am fine fencesitting tyvm

Vote Ceph or your auto wolf and I’ll make you live a fucking nightmare Day 2.
If your voting Ceph don’t remove your vote or I’ll make you live a fucking nightmare Day 2.

By Nightmare I mean if your wolf you will be so obvious wolf you will open wolf hard in front of my smiling face.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Like allowing Ceph to survive today I feel is too risky and can hurt us in the long Run as well because let’s say Math, CSF and idk someone else flips wolf.
Ceph can easily have been wolf and we could have fucking solve this shit allot sooner.

If you are a solver bell and not a troll yourself you should know a Ceph Yeet solves more, doesn’t take an Einstein to figure this out.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Because there are more votes there, and the day needs to end before everyone rage quits the game @frogster

And ceph is at e-2 because he is hated

We would prefer that the angry players rage quit because they will no longer be complaining in the topic and their town slot will get replaced with stronger players from the replacement queue. Tailoring your vote to the players who are complaining and not doing anything is a mistake. Taly has a better chance to flip scum than Ceph. I don't know what exactly Taly did in the hood but apparently she has a good chance of being the scum-in-the-hood. Ceph has almost no chance of being scum because Taly isn't even a TPR, there is no reason for Ceph to potentially get himself eliminated for a mere neighbor.

If you are trying to win this game get Mala in here and change your votes back to Taly. With any luck, the whiners

will

rage quit and we will receive fresh townies who are ready to solve this game. You have good reads CSF but they won't do you any good if you listen to other players more than you listen to yourself.

I’m not rage quiting.
If your the main reason Taly gets ML’ed I’ll fucking bury the living hell out of you AND Ceph.

[ProfessorDrapion]

who said i was widely townread pre-gladiate?

i had several strong townreads and that seems to have only progressed upon today's interactions.

The people who keep implying Ceph did this to get an obviously town player mislimmed.

The people who keep implying Ceph did this to get an obviously town player mislimmed

This was functionally my point

hence why i want my

"defenders"

to flesh out that townread

Your defenders are more concerned with setting up future mislims regardless of what happens to you.

got any names in particular?

Drapion, Pooky, Nancy.

Also incidentally that's most likely to be scum moving on down. They are the only three players playing an entirely different game from the rest of us and I am sorry you have to throw your lot in with them.

Roflmmfaooo

Yes 3 of the most obvious townies are all chilling in the scum pt.

And you’re not a miselim, you’re scum.

If people actually think I’m a wolf here they are either wolves themselves accomplishing nothing and might as well go and play Minecraft or they are town falling for wolf agenda.

[ProfessorDrapion]

who said i was widely townread pre-gladiate?

i had several strong townreads and that seems to have only progressed upon today's interactions.

The people who keep implying Ceph did this to get an obviously town player mislimmed.

The people who keep implying Ceph did this to get an obviously town player mislimmed

This was functionally my point

hence why i want my

"defenders"

to flesh out that townread

Your defenders are more concerned with setting up future mislims regardless of what happens to you.

got any names in particular?

Drapion, Pooky, Nancy.

Also incidentally that's most likely to be scum moving on down. They are the only three players playing an entirely different game from the rest of us and I am sorry you have to throw your lot in with them.

so your take is that 3/5ths of the scum are my biggest defenders?

thats... interesting. i could be snowed with 1 but i highly, highly doubt all 3.

i have a good readrate with

pooky/galron/titus/nancy

.

Sorry one of those three most likely. I think most likely ProfessorDrapion is taking advantage of Pooky and Nancy, because Pooky is tilted and I don't know what Nancy is doing tbh. Outside chance Pooky is playing 5D chess. Outside outside chance Titus has directly Nancy to be chaos personified.

What in the actual fuck is this? Are you accusing Titus of gaslighting me or the converse?

Dude the fact T-Bone thinks I’m wolf is LOL.


I feel like wolves are fucking cursing my name and scared of me in their wolf chat RN.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Protection on me.
You BG in potential PoE?
Don’t worry, come die for me!

[ProfessorDrapion]

I will be your hero!

[ProfessorDrapion]

there is no reason for Ceph to potentially get himself eliminated for a mere neighbor.

I mean... Yeah I don't disagree at all

RcEnigma had a Poe that was decent

I mean they were trying to push Taly all day.
The wolves I mean.

When I made sure Frog was a wagon and he claimed and I caught onto Cephrir being potential busser he immediately whip in with this fuckery.
We didn’t need that today. I was trying to make sure the wagons were Math and Frog but he fucking stopped my fucking plan.
I was gonna make a wolf, wolf tell hard but Ceph played really bad and deserves to be executed for that Gladiate.


Also I’m throwing Bell into my wolves list because it’s possible he might get a bastard effect if his neighbour Taly dies and I may or may not know this.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Ceph is town here. Taly may or may not be Town. We don't have access to the hood chat but we know Taly looks bad in it. It's kind of an easy choice.

Why is Ceph Town?

You didn’t think that before the Gladiate and you know as well as I do there is way more evidence that his Gladiate was more wolf motivated.


I’m one of the few town actually doing something strong to stop this wolf motivation or at least try as hard as I can.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I also don't get why taly thinks ceph is scum other than self preservation, but yea I'm tired

Bro I've slept like 6 hours bc of my job and this game is like another full time job

BRUH.


Your a wolf, you gotta be right?

[ProfessorDrapion]

Spoiler: For T-Bone

I want to apologize for my conduct towards you today and yesterday.

I am a very intense person and most people who know me do not like me for that reason.

One thing that tilts me considerably is people trying to avoid accountability for their actions.

I was incredibly annoyed by the gladiate yesterday because it prevented me from getting the elimination I very much wanted and believed in.

Instead of being able to make my case for Frogster scum, I got to see someone mechanically make that impossible - then Frogster began taunting me because he knew I couldn't kill him anymore.

Today I made the decision to vote for Taly because I realized if I couldn't get what I wanted, then perhaps I could give the other people something that they wanted and once they saw they were wrong, they would listen to me and help me tommorrow. That is the nature of compromise. Tic for tac, I listen to you today, you listen to me tomorrow. If Taly has to die to heal this town, then I guess we kill Taly.

Now I come back and apparently nobody who wants to actually kill Taly and everyone is dodging responsibility for that decision.

I am compromising with exactly noone because apparently there's nobody who even wanted to kill Taly.

And you saying you're not pushing Taly was incredibly triggering for me because from my point of view - you literally got Cephrir to gladiate Taly.

I have a pet peeve against people who pretend they are not accountable for their actions, I always have.

I recognize my response to you was probably over the top and you did not deserve to be dealt with in such a harsh manner for a silly internet game.

I overreacted and I apologize for that. I have incredibly bad self control when I become invested in something.

OOC: Pooky I love you, please don't let anything I said make you think I don't. We are alike in many ways and this stubbornness is one of them. I'm sorry too. Other than this OOC post I am ghost gamewise.

Alright let’s flash wagon this tomorrow!

[ProfessorDrapion]

Okay making this my last post of the day I'm contributing to the problem. We can resume tomorrow Professor.

If I post again flash wagon me.

His words, I’m just motivating it.

[ProfessorDrapion]

My Town motivation will outweigh the Mafia motivation because so help me I strive, prosper and aggro my way to a Town victory!

[ProfessorDrapion]

@Nancy pls read this

I no longer think even a ceph flip can heal this town. There's too much bullshit where likely town players believe so hardcore in their reads and care so little about other players that they are willing to trash the shit out of everyone who gets in their way. I don't know how much I even want to interact here anymore. Sincerely. If this is just a common large game issue, I doubt I'll ever join another one.

VOTE: ceph

I think this post is very good and poignant.

There are some people in this game such as myself and nancy who are very opinionated, very loud, and compulsively spam the thread full of our own opinions and do not much care for listening to anyone else.

I also have the bad habit of savagely mauling people who disagree with me because I am not a good person.

I am going to take a step back from this game in order to hopefully take a step in the right direction.

I highly suggest to Nancy that she should do the same thing for the good of the thread and everyone else playing. just post your opinions in the hydra chat with titus instead of putting them all in this thread.

I think having fun is more important than winning the game and I'm not sure making this place miserable is very conducive to winning the game.

I'll write an apology to T-Bone in my next post and that will be it for me for the rest of the day.

I hope Cephrir and STD have a lovely wedding and we somehow get Cephrir a ticket off this hellhole of an island.

Bro yeah that’s why Rad moved out of my wolves and then recently Bell just moved into them.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Are you claiming that you're informed and know that one neighbor gets a boost from killing the other or are you just failing to apply Ockham's razor.

Idk you tell me?
What do you get?

[ProfessorDrapion]

Ceph is town here. Taly may or may not be Town. We don't have access to the hood chat but we know Taly looks bad in it. It's kind of an easy choice.

Ceph is literally at e-1 with math's vote. Is it really worth prolonging the day for this

Pedit: drapion, i saw taly's reasons for scumreading ceph, i don't think they're very good

Info Yeet is best and you all try and avoid optimal yeets.
Not this time.

Math was info Yeet, avoided.
Frog was info Yeet, almost there but avoided.


We are NOT avoiding Cephrir.

[ProfessorDrapion]

ProfessorDrapion can you tone down the quantity of your posts please.

Say I agree with the following post and I will:


I believe Cephrir is a wolf even if he isn’t the fact he can be hurts us later and he is very much aligned with Frog/Math.
We really need Cephrir to go over then we do the following -
Vote Frog/Math - 1 is for sure wolf.
If Cephrir is wolf there is also good chance Bell is wolf.
I think if CSF is Wolf, Dunn probably also is because heat drop.
Bella and T-Bone can also be wolf

However if Dunn wants to sheep all my reads and vote for all the wolves other then himself if he is wolf, I will not vote for him the entire rest of this game.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Like say you agree with it.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Are you claiming that you're informed and know that one neighbor gets a boost from killing the other or are you just failing to apply Ockham's razor.

Idk you tell me?
What do you get?

Nothing. Because I don't get a reward for killing Taly other than removing a player from the list day 1 which provides further information.
Cephrir being a better one given the bizzarre hard defense of Taly isn't really true from my perspective. You have a big 3 sided wagon. Of apathetics/Kill ceph's/Kill Taly's/no eliminates. It's actually more information than you usually get.
Early game it's relatively true that Cephrir was the more revealing of the kills. Though to be honest I'm not clear how much given my interactions with them. I do think a Cephrir town flip makes more sense there.

Do you agree or disagree with the following:
Cephrir wolf spews either Math or Frog Wolf.
Taly wolf doesn’t spew anyone wolf

[ProfessorDrapion]

VOTE: taly

I'm only posting to move my vote from now on. I don't want to contribute to the post count of this game any more than i already have

Yay! You made the

right

choice CSF.

Wrong

[ProfessorDrapion]

I’m not here to discuss anything with anyone. Who is leading in votes?

Me, I am leading people to vote Cephrir.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I better have protection on me tonight.

[ProfessorDrapion]

If wolves manage to ML Taly here and night kill me then win the game flawlessly or almost flawlessly And I was correct on at least most things, I expect every town to give me a 100+ word apology.

[ProfessorDrapion]

ProfessorDrapion can you tone down the quantity of your posts please.

Say I agree with the following post and I will:


I believe Cephrir is a wolf even if he isn’t the fact he can be hurts us later and he is very much aligned with Frog/Math.
We really need Cephrir to go over then we do the following -
Vote Frog/Math - 1 is for sure wolf.
If Cephrir is wolf there is also good chance Bell is wolf.
I think if CSF is Wolf, Dunn probably also is because heat drop.
Bella and T-Bone can also be wolf

However if Dunn wants to sheep all my reads and vote for all the wolves other then himself if he is wolf, I will not vote for him the entire rest of this game.

I'm not arguing reads, you are massively contributing to making this game intolerable by posting several times per page to repeat yourself several times. You don't need to do that.

Dude if I don’t keep talking wolves are gonna get the ML they desire.
You honestly telling me to just let them do that?

[ProfessorDrapion]

I’m not here to discuss anything with anyone. Who is leading in votes?

Nope. There is one choice which is clearly stronger than the other. There is no scum motivation for Ceph to use their ability on a mere Neighbor in a game where the scum are so heavily outnumbered.

If the whiners want to replace out that will improve town wincon because they will stop complaining in the thread and they will be replaced with stronger players from the replacement queue.

I know you are a strong enough player to understand this reasoning RCE and if you do anything other than vote Taly I'm going treat it as a scum claim from your slot.

There is a ton of wolf motivation, BRUH you called out Taly as TvTvT and you also was starting to push Math.

If your not mafia and Cephrir is, honest to god please work on your entire game play.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Like the two things you did are reasons Cephrir can start that Gladiate, how do you not see that?

They are the easiest ML for wolves, how are you not realizing this?

[ProfessorDrapion]

The easiest miselim for wolves would have been enchant. There's a shirt at the kiosk with their name and everything.

Which I shut down fucking hard because Frog starting it.


REALLY funny your bringing it up huh?

Potential Frog - You Wolf partner equity I see yes indeed.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Bro no joke wolves, why don’t you all just open wolf day 2 and hard push and vote me all together.
There is 5 of you and 1 of me.

[ProfessorDrapion]

@RCE

Don't disappoint me, my plan was to sheep your reads this game but I'm starting to feel inside like your pop in here is wolfy?

VOTE: ceph

I agree with you RCE.
I agree.

I can also see that potential wolf motivation from frog as well.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Let’s see 5 Wolves.


Cephrir/Frog/Bell/CSF/Dunn/T-Bone/Bella/Math

3 of these are Town.

[ProfessorDrapion]

@RCE

Don't disappoint me, my plan was to sheep your reads this game but I'm starting to feel inside like your pop in here is wolfy?

VOTE: ceph

VOTE: ceph

That's interesting, I was wondering if I was wrong RCE. Can you explain the reasoning behind your ceph vote?

No response?

Dude you gave him like 1 minute and I didn’t see either post when I was typing up my post.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Actually wait no.

Cephrir was the one to mention Ninja.


My role indicates Ninja is quite likely and this is LEGIT.
Yeah so the fact he mentioned makes me want him executed even more.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I’m not here to discuss anything with anyone. Who is leading in votes?

Frog and T-Bone I see scum motivation from both.
Cephrir can be town but he can be wolf likely as well and if he is it fucks us over later on so we need to get him out ASAP.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Like if Taly gets ML’ed I would not only like to request for my protection tonight but also request for a not guiltless Vigilante to shoot Cephrir to stop him from potentially fucking us all over later if he’s wolf.

[ProfessorDrapion]

You have no comment RCE on why you voted Taly, disappeared, unvoted Taly, then popped in and voted Ceph when the wagon was close to hammering? How do you think that is going to read on your slot in light of Ceph's flip, RCE?

Quite Good unless your applying your informed Ceph is Town?

[ProfessorDrapion]

on reflection

I am willing to move T-Bone to town

and recommend we eliminate Mathblade / Frogster

Seriously?

Honestly the dudes kinda 50/50 for me to.

There is only 5 wolves and only so much room.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Still find him to have high scum equity with Frog/Math but again only 5 can be wolves.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Pretty sure Rad Town told at least for me so that’s why I took him out of my wolf list and straight into my town reads.

[ProfessorDrapion]

@Dragons

Ceph has majority vote (14) I counted.


Also, CSF unvoted into voting Tally so idk why CSF can’t be a wolf because I can still see it.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Like Cephrir flipping wolf I think spews both CSF and Frog or Math wolf so much that it’s basically an instant town win.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I shouldn’t talk anymore though and wait for the flip.

[ProfessorDrapion]

coming from Dunnstral since they're here and seem intelligent.

This is too harsh. I'm going to rephrase that Dunnstral seems to be playing this game to win in a way that I can actually understand what they're trying to accomplish.

Except for trying to out lukes partner. That was bone headed and still makes me think he's scum

I don't read your posts either tbh

I can't tell if you're scum or anti town and I've got you in my solve either way

Do whatever the hell you wanna do.
Just make sure you choose a target that’s gonna give us good info, if you can try and ninja hunt or something.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Anyway, I’m going to bed and looking forward to the flip in the morning.
I’m hoping it’s wolf so this game be easy win.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I just looked at EoD again and I mean Dunn confirmable and Frogger rolecop claim

So I mean dead because PR claim?

Maybe.

[ProfessorDrapion]

My reads are garbage omg

Same, they were both in my wolf PoE.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I’ll say it was a good shot because my theory was at least 25% incorrect, and I only know that because of that shot.

~GE

It was a good shot.
It narrows things down for me and also shows I wasn’t in the direct direction I need to be in on my reads.

[ProfessorDrapion]

VOTE: enchant
Leavong this until Marci moves it or I finish thinking over that theory
~GE

My town read on Enchant dropped due to Frog flipping town.
Might consider voting there, I’m not sure where everything is ATM and I would like to go over my reads.

[ProfessorDrapion]

However I still think Taly is town based on how they handled themselves yesterday.

[ProfessorDrapion]

VOTE: Bellaphant

I’ll have my vote here for now.

[ProfessorDrapion]

My wolf PoE consists of 5 but I don’t think this is the entire team.

Wolf PoE:
Math
Bellaphant
T-Bone
Bell
CSF

I think I’m like half right on that not completely.
I need to do some more looking. Not sure how I feel towards Luke’s slot, that’s Iffy for me.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Well there goes the two people I was gonna vote today. How was everybody's night?

Hmm.
Another slot I’m iffy on, I can very well see this going both ways.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Quick thought.

In post 1101, what if both the voters on my original slot owner were wolves.
What if Bella and RCE are wolves.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Oh yeah I forgot I made this during the night:



So during the night I was also taking a look at my original slot owners reads.

Turns out both me and him got wolf vibes from Frog.

Although he TR’ed CSF/Dunn/T-Bone, I however have not arrived there as I see them all as potential wolves.

His main wolf reads though were RCE and Bell.
So I’ll stick with my Bell Wolf Read.

Something I also noticed from reading my previous slot owners ISO is that Malcolm called out my slow owners reads despite them already claiming they copied most of it from Rad.
So that seems like potential scum motivation from Malcolm on my slot.



Even though Cephrir flipped town I still like the way Rad voted them. Also since my original slot owner town read Rad as well I’ll definitely keep Rad in my Townreads.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Because he Wolf Read RCE.

I don’t see RCE and Bella both wolves unlikely at all.

I still think CSF could be a wolf, not so much T-Bone but still have them in the Wolf PoE.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I can see vig on frog, but considering how the black smoke worked

I don't think we can 100% rule out

third party.

The kills don't do loads to change my reads - although it does amuse me that professor drapions whole reason for me being scum yesterday was that frog was my scum partner and I'm still getting voted by them!

Feel better about

Roden

and worse about Johnny from their day phase opening.

1)So do you think Pooky is 3P?
2)Well that’s kinda funny because I don’t think 3P is in the setup.
3)Roden should be like lock town to you no?
4)Be honest, how much do you read thread/game?

[ProfessorDrapion]

Lol DP so much for high info flip.

Is Bell one of your high TR’s?

[ProfessorDrapion]

Crap I quoted wrong post, meant to quote the one Pooky just made.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I'm retiring from scum hunting and going to play music for the rest of the game

Carry us Bell-san

Just to clarify it is this post here that I ask if you have Bell as High TR or not.

[ProfessorDrapion]

i shouldve been in bed 30 minutes ago so im not doing a huge post here

needless to say, my reads have been wrong at every point so far, so im confident that im being misted somewhere.

it's very likely scum were on both sides of the gladiate, and i wonder if

ceph

was the elimination due to having better reads outside of his push onto me.

rad/pooky/dp/csf/luke

are townreads, many others are leans, majority in the PoE.

>

Johnny

I haven't heard a thing from you during the gladiate other than me being town, I'm going to need some convincing to believe that read at the moment.
>

Math

, why did you spend a whole back-and-forth trying to gauge for justification to vote

ceph

and then pivot back to me when

Luke

gave reasoning?
>

RCE

you were very similar in the regard of changing votes off little provocation, I want you to justify your votes.
>

Gamma

, remind me why you chose to push

Bell

!scum when it wasn't an opportunity? What happened to that read in light of

Enchant

!scum?
>

Pooky

, what is your read on

T-Bone

?
>

Drap

, walk me through that wolf PoE.
>

Bella

, I don't remember a thing from your posts, what are your reads?
>

Roden/Dwlee

, have you guys had the chance to interact with each other much?
>

Titus

, are you feeling better? How would you read the VCA of

Taly V Ceph

? I'm also failing to see the connection of

BBT

-scum, but my brain is tired at the moment.
>

T-Bone

, why do a gloat post when 3 town are dead?
>

Mislim Bait

, where are you at with the catch-up? Do you need any help in following this hell of a game thread?

VOTE: Mathblade

vote's best served here,

frogs

was my other strongest scumread.

luke

sharing that feels like a genuine mindmeld. this makes the most sense.

Yeah I was the person who pushed on Frog to hardest and really thought Cephrir was trying to save them.

I also pushed to save you and it succeed, I think your town based on what I have seen from you so far so you better be town lol.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Lol DP so much for high info flip.

You mean Titus? Gamma and me wanted no lim. I felt both were town and we gave scum a free miselim.

DoctorDrapion said Cephrir would be a high info flip.
Their drawn conclusions from that flip are bad. esp. Because most of those interactions or info would be around my approach to Cephrir which was pretty distinct.
and hten they just didn't budge on it. They got exactly 0% further into solving the game from that flip. Unless they're scum. In which case they got exactly 0% further into solving the game that flip.

It was a high info flip, would have been more so if they flipped wolf but eh.


Least now I know I was on the wrong track and now along with the Frog flip I think it’s quite possible it was indeed TvTvT on those wagons and all Cephrir did was challenge one of the town wagons.


So chances are and judging from position, wolves were in a very comfortable spot all of Day 1.
However, there is still a high chance Math can be a wolf, which means he was the only wolf in an unfavourable position in day 1 and got out of it.
Unfortunately Cephrir made the wrong choice and should have picked the player who me and frog were trying to push “Math” although if even Math is town then wolves probably won’t pushed at all and living very comfortable.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I'd support a Professor wagon, but I would need to check what Gaunine's thoughts are before committing to a vote.
~Cytosine

You can't as if being wrong is wolfy, I think I justified myself very clearly on why I did what I did.

[ProfessorDrapion]

You Act*

sorry, spelling error.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Did anything happen in the PT to reaffirm the read?

It was better, but no. They just picked up a bit in posting.
If you believe in town slips (I don't), they forgot Roden claimed mason.
It'd be funny if Bella and Taly are both town that forgot or didn't see Roden claim.

I think Bella is wolf that didn't see it thus I was hoping no one would mention about her posts so she could respond to the one I gave to them so I can get a better read on them.
Taly is def town, either forgot about them being the mason or forgot about masons entirely.

[ProfessorDrapion]

To be frank if you don't have some revelation after Dunn, Frog, and Ceph flipped town.
I really doubt that flipping BBT will help you solve the game.

I mean I get Math's point.
Following dead townie's reads is a good play.

But that's all the case really has RN, they are null for me and not a wolf read so unless I get more of a case on them I'm Prob ably not voting there, probably.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Did anything happen in the PT to reaffirm the read?

It was better, but no. They just picked up a bit in posting.
If you believe in town slips (I don't), they forgot Roden claimed mason.
It'd be funny if Bella and Taly are both town that forgot or didn't see Roden claim.

I think Bella is wolf that didn't see it thus I was hoping no one would mention about her posts so she could respond to the one I gave to them so I can get a better read on them.
Taly is def town, either forgot about them being the mason or forgot about masons entirely.

This is stupid

There’s 5 scum
Surely scum would keep a log of who claims what

Doesn't mean they can't be a wolf, I wanna see

How

they respond.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Let’s just skip to the wagon disperse part and have actual productive conversations about BBT and/or other possible scum slots.

Sure, why do you find them wolfy?

[ProfessorDrapion]

I kinda want to lim Johnny (I scumread that slot, and Cephrir +1'd my read there, which makes me feel better about it) or MathBlade (

Cephrir's best posts were when he was pushing Math imo

)

but ngl BBT wagon sounds enticing too

This can be distancing, why do

you

specifically wolf read MathBlade?

[ProfessorDrapion]

I'm always down for making johnny walk the plank

I don't feel it, Bella or Blue sounds better, if we for math it should be after one of them flip IMO, or today.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I think you're town Math sheesh.

Elaborate.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Okay those quotes together CSF posted don't look great.

I haven't been thinking they have been looking that great all game, not sure why they are being town read so much by Pooky.

NGL I still feel you can be in a team with CSF.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Okay those quotes together CSF posted don't look great.

Why?

It’s just the same repeated Corwin wasn’t active

This is just the same repeated recycled bullshit to avoid talking BBT

Because what you said isn't consistent.

.....
But that is what CSF said.

Math - Bone - Cat

Wolves?

[ProfessorDrapion]

Sees evidence Math is town

Conclusion “But Math could be scum”

Me *blinks*

No evidence was once provided (assuming your referring to my post)

You see Math, the way your wagon was pushed away and the way CSF reacted and how that Taly wagon started still has me uneasy.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Math, you gave so little of a shit that you voted Taly, vote for a no lim and then voted for Cephirir all while saying you didn't really give a shit and had run out of sppons.

So WAIT?
Potential Comfortable Wolf?

The dude had the nerve to say "evidence that he's town" lol.

[ProfessorDrapion]

To be frank if you don't have some revelation after Dunn, Frog, and Ceph flipped town.
I really doubt that flipping BBT will help you solve the game.

I mean I get Math's point.
Following dead townie's reads is a good play.

But that's all the case really has RN, they are null for me and not a wolf read so unless I get more of a case on them I'm Prob ably not voting there, probably.

I think BBT is pretty scummy

Anyone not posting in the shitshow yesterday deserves a look considering flips

That's actually a fair point.





Speaking of which, what yo thoughts on Bella's absents during that shitshow and the read on the slot?

[ProfessorDrapion]

Let’s just skip to the wagon disperse part and have actual productive conversations about BBT and/or other possible scum slots.

Sure, why do you find them wolfy?

My number one rule of good scum is when town is miselimming themselves don’t fuck it up.

So that means we need to figure out who was quiet as the yellers are mostly flipped and green.

I keep reading that last part and was like "I think that was said wrong"
But I get your point, basically what I said where the wolves didn't care to do much during the frog push and gladiate because it was just all town hits and mafia was lying low and we need to look for whom is laying low, which is why I'm bringing up Bella.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Hello I haven't played for 2 years so I'm a bit rusty and old doge.
So I hope you guys won't mislim me that would be horrible.

I havent read anything yet.
Is there anything I need to know before I start

Hey there, also @CSF this was the player in the game when you were wolf, this was the town that TR'ed me but I SR'ed them and you won.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I am analyzing things.

I just don’t start assuming the question.

Information ans analysis are equal.

My point is you can’t assume one way or another

I know I am town

I know because people think I suck I don’t get wagoned unless I am a threat

I didn’t have firm reads so what was I doing

I was unifying town to talk

Therefore I was wagoned for that reason

That's why you KNOW your town, I know I'm town because that was the alignment I received.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Flavor

you may only vote for Taly or Cephrir

Vote Count 1.31

13 Cephrir (ProfessorDrapion, JohnnyFarrar, Taly, Off the Hook, Malakittens, Lukewarm, T-Bone, PookyTheMagicalBear, Rad, Dancing Puppets, Mathblade, RCEnigma, Bell)
7 Taly (Dunnstral, Cephrir, Frogsterking, Klick, MalcolmTucker, Roden, Cat Scratch Fever)

Not Voting (Cytosine and Guanine, Enchant, Bellaphant, BlueBloodedToffee, Dwlee99, Best Bird)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-07-18 12:42:51)

Mod Notes

Replacing Klick
Mala on V/LA until the 16th
Titus V/LA
Best Bird V/LA
Taly V/LA
Lukewarm V/LA
Mathblade V/LA
Wedding week and new job expect less from me

So three of taly's voters flip town
1 is mason and 1 is klick which is the person I subbed for and know that is town.
any reason why we shouldn't speed lunch taly here?
I'll try to read malcolm and cat

There overall reaction to them being the top wagon was quite Townie IMO, as well as their opinion as Frog and reaction to their Gladiate.

[ProfessorDrapion]

VOTE: Taly

Lunch

Frog might have been right on Enchant here, I’ll actually throw them in my wolf PoE now.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Reading back some of Rad's posts from later D1 and they feel incredibly scummy.

Lot of their posts toward the end feel indecisive in a way that's quite unnatural, as if they were unsure where to lean. Manage to go from voting Taly, to advocating for no elimination, to then voting out Ceph in a relatively short space of time. The progression doesn't work for me as being from town.

I originally wolf read Rad but their post about Cephrir felt like a genuine thought rather then scum having an excuse to vote somewhere.


Remember, last day wolves were in a position where they can lay back and not have to do as much due to us pushing ourself.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Flavor

you may only vote for Taly or Cephrir

Vote Count 1.31

13 Cephrir (ProfessorDrapion, JohnnyFarrar, Taly, Off the Hook, Malakittens, Lukewarm, T-Bone, PookyTheMagicalBear, Rad, Dancing Puppets, Mathblade, RCEnigma, Bell)
7 Taly (Dunnstral, Cephrir, Frogsterking, Klick, MalcolmTucker, Roden, Cat Scratch Fever)

Not Voting (Cytosine and Guanine, Enchant, Bellaphant, BlueBloodedToffee, Dwlee99, Best Bird)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-07-18 12:42:51)

Mod Notes

Replacing Klick
Mala on V/LA until the 16th
Titus V/LA
Best Bird V/LA
Taly V/LA
Lukewarm V/LA
Mathblade V/LA
Wedding week and new job expect less from me

So three of taly's voters flip town
1 is mason and 1 is klick which is the person I subbed for and know that is town.
any reason why we shouldn't speed lunch taly here?
I'll try to read malcolm and cat

You may have missed that there was a gladiate between Ceph and Taly day 1, which kinda messes with this line of thinking imo

thats fair
although from a quick skim of taly's iso.
they didnt have an initial read on ceph before the gladiate and their case against ceph centered around the whole gladiate thing being scum motivated.
This could probably be excused due to it being 1v1 but still a bit of bad look.
will look forward to how they will bounce back today after they were wrong on their reads.

It kind of did look wolf motivated though as me and frog were trying to start up a Math wagon just before the Gladiate.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Reading back some of Rad's posts from later D1 and they feel incredibly scummy.

Lot of their posts toward the end feel indecisive in a way that's quite unnatural, as if they were unsure where to lean. Manage to go from voting Taly, to advocating for no elimination, to then voting out Ceph in a relatively short space of time. The progression doesn't work for me as being from town.

Imma be real

I think I did this flip flopping too

I’m the complete opposite, I found their early posts pretty wolfy and their later posts Townie.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Specifically the Cephrir vote.
It wasn’t felling like a opportunistic vote, a lazy vote and it wasn’t a null vote to end the day faster.

Which IMO is a Townie vote as it felt like a genuine thought.

[ProfessorDrapion]

@ Malcolm, I noped out of the rad/dp thing when there were like five pages of people deciding it was scumny that rads read changed, when it really wasn't. In fact my read was wavering on dp around the same time and suddenly that fact seemed controversial?

Re: the gladiator, I was out of my depth here - I didn't have much of a read on Taly, I'd been saying that ceph was scum for ages to what felt like a fair amount of push back, but the gladiate itself felt town, although the target seemed a bit weird. So I think quite a few people's position around it was a.bit 'whiplash-y'.

CSF is still obv town.

Re math - when I've seen him be so odd, though, it's rarely been about himself, more mech or other people.

They are not Obv Town at all.
However question is as wolf do you call your own wolf buddy “Obv Town” or do you only call a town “Obv Town” as a pocket attempt?

[ProfessorDrapion]

Rad is basically lock town for me.

Dude I swear each time you make a read you look like informed wolf.


Yes it’s possible you can be town but I feel your reads, especially the “Frog Town” and “Cephrir Town” read looked very lacking and seems you just call them town.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Can I ask your reasoning for all your town reads including the flip town please T-Bone.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I tried to re-ISO Bella but couldn’t find that post but I’m pretty sure she made it - about her flipping her read on us three times that is.

I’m still not sure what to make of Math but T-Bone is looking better today. \_0_/

I tried to re-ISO Bella but couldn’t find that post but I’m pretty sure she made it - about her flipping her read on us three times that is.

I’m still not sure what to make of Math but T-Bone is looking better today. \_0_/

Idk IMO their votes are ass.

Voted My slot with RCE, Voted Cephrir but never touched them during the Gladiate I believe which is strange and feels like laid back wolf, They also were one of the mason pushers yet they for some reason “Forgot about the Mason Claim” like huh?

[ProfessorDrapion]

They also have scum equity with Math for sure.

[ProfessorDrapion]

They had a post restriction, although they seemed to have broken it.

Sorry, I shouldn't post at 3am, I briefly forgot masons! It's nice to know that Bella's sleepy gut was on the right track
@taly, you asked about reads. My strongest scum read right now is still Johnny, I think I'm mellowing on bell, I need to see a lot more from best bird. I don't know how I feel about math but I thought his bbt point was at least interesting. My big read shift at the end of yesterday was that t bone was town, it's possible off the hook is too.

I don't know how to read professor drapion - yesterday I was scum with frog, and today their scum reads are weird. I also think the consistent push on CSF is ridiculous, as they are my strongest town read.

The klick replacement is still town. I think dancing puppets is town but their read on klick at the end of yesterday was garbage and looked opportunitistic in places.

I think he’s town so I don’t understand this?

I can't find what I said about you either but I was sure I said it!

Yeah, I was fine with the post restriction but not having a consequence/knowing it is weird.

Who's he here, from you?

You know if you actually read the thread, puppet stated serval times over and over that they town read me.

[ProfessorDrapion]

whats everyone arguing abt lately

why even argue when mathblades CLEARLY SCUM

why

Hey there Enchant, care to share your reads?

[ProfessorDrapion]

RCE, what was your initial reason for voting my original slot owner?

[ProfessorDrapion]

I will admit I have flip flopped on TBone like…..8 times at least.

Bro I’m about the same.
That’s why I stick him and keep him in Wolf PoE, since I can see wolf agenda from him and partner equity.

[ProfessorDrapion]

RCE, what was your initial reason for voting my original slot owner?

I never voted your slot. Toad did I would guess, you would have to ask them.

Ah yeah fair my bad, it was just our original slot owners that SR’ed each other

[ProfessorDrapion]

jfc - don't go v/la during a large theme...

someone want to give me a quick rundown how yesterday ended like it did? I'm not reading 5000 posts.

The first big wagon to start up was Math, then after the next wagon was the mason wagon which made 2 masons claim (note Math hasn’t claimed as far as I’m aware of)
Next Taly was a main wagon and I noticed Frog who I was wolf reading start up a wagon on someone else and so I hard pushed Frog causing him to be the new main wagon.
(Taly is just a neighbour if I recall correctly.)
Frog ended up hardclaiming Rolecop since he was close to execution and me and him starting pushing Math but then Ceph started a Gladiate on Taly.

So I made sure Ceph went over because at the time I believed them and frog to be wolves.

Unfortunately, they were both town and we haven’t got a wolf yet.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I am interested in VCA from Titus given our three flips.

Flip BBT is my initial look. Check my posts for today.

~Titus

Tell me more about this

If I am wrong on you, then we have deep wolves dividing the game and three town wagoned for no reason D1. The kill on Dunn makes little sense if you're not scum.

The push on Math is easy. While he could be scum, it's awfully convienent for scum to push the sick guy who votes them. Doubly so when it's Math.

~Titus

Idk whether he is or not. Main thing that pinged me was Enchant’s Taly vote.

VOTE: Enchant

So I’m going to do this for now.

Agreed.

[ProfessorDrapion]

... professor drapion will be telling everyone you two are scum now.

The masons are Roden And dweelee.

TF is this accusation, start reading the fucking thread as I also TR Puppet.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I don't even know what that means.

Math/DP prob scum. So that's nice.

Puppets prob Town.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Highly doubt they are a wolf.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Logical? Fuck. Me.

You call your push logical? It's awful

You call all your pushers wolf?
Logical? Fuck. Me.

[ProfessorDrapion]

... professor drapion will be telling everyone you two are scum now.

The masons are Roden And dweelee.

TF is this accusation, start reading the fucking thread as I also TR Puppet.

... maybe this is the issue. This. Was. A. Joke. Two people forgot the masons, which you seemed to think was scummy. Why are you so angry at me?

It wasn’t about that, I wanted your responses, a test on how your gonna respond to the question.
How did you forget who the mason was when you pushed them and the push stopped.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Damn so much posts, I GTG sorry.

[ProfessorDrapion]

In what way? What puzzle are we solving that is aided by knowing Dunnstral's role?
~Cytosine

Dude knowing anyones role can give us info.
Like lol?
Why do you think Frog had the Rolecop role?

[ProfessorDrapion]

I’m actually in another game on another site so my contribution for now won’t be as high.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Replacing Mathblade

Oh damn

[ProfessorDrapion]

Bella still hasn’t done anything Townie IMO.

[ProfessorDrapion]

VOTE: Dancing

So far most unbelievable reaction of my vote.

Didn't care about it before, now utilizes it as argument.

You are voting town.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Yes.

And you ignored my vote, if you was town you would say "lmao what a bullshit" instantly.

I am town and what’s the difference?

You are not.

Not necessarily, sometimes tbh I just glance past your posts because you aren’t really a player I directly care where they vote.

But if you have an argument or something I see and want to respond to, I will.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Wdm my logic is bad.

Mafia wants to kill me, but doesh't want to be "first" to give reasons to this.

Why does mafia want to kill you out of all people?
And if your talking about execution like, your not really a priority target for mafia, if anything I’m a priority target for mafia in both ways.

[ProfessorDrapion]

VOTE: MathBlade

[ProfessorDrapion]

Oh - I can talk to dead people, but only Ceph since the other two weren't dead during N1.

Ceph isn't happy with a lot of you so ymmv in terms of getting something answered

Ah.

I am interested in hearing his reads, post dunn and frog flip.

I had more specific questions for the two that you say you cannot talk to tho lol

Ceph think Math-slot is probably scum.

That’s why I’m voting Math.


Now he probably isn’t that happy with me, but I hard town Taly and his Gladiate looked scum motivated.

[ProfessorDrapion]

At the time I literally thought that and didn’t want Cephrir to linger around in case they were wolf.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Like I thought it was wolf motivated and I explained why on that day.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I haven’t read much of today, probably won’t.

Pretty busy and I’m caught up with other things where I was more free during last day.

[ProfessorDrapion]

When Rad said that he expected Dunn to send it to me, that rang true given the way that he softed at me.

I had a thought about us possibly being wrong on which was killed by the mafia.

Might be a bad thought, but if he sent it to me, and I didn't get it then that would mean that he was role blocked. Which would mean he was not the mafia kill.

If scum killed Frog, then that has a lot of implications. But also might just be paranoia. idk

Did you forget about Pooky?

[ProfessorDrapion]

vote bella

I’d join you on that but Math probably goes over today.

[ProfessorDrapion]

If Math flips wolf you look bad.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I've said I'll do either today, I don't want to do Malcolm or bbt. I'm not sure what the issue is?

Ok but that’s not MathBlade.

[ProfessorDrapion]

M.A.T.H. B.L.A.D.E

[ProfessorDrapion]

It's not true? Like I said I don't have a VC but there were definitely four wagons that were not vanity.

I’m pretty sure it was you that started that wagon or something or at least I just remember like someone voting them and only like 2 other players joining for some reason.

[ProfessorDrapion]

O.O

[ProfessorDrapion]

ATTENTION I GOT A POTENTIAL VERY LIKELY RED CHECK ON BELLA.

I WANT BELLA’S FULL CLAIM AND ACTIONS NOW!

VOTE: Bella

[ProfessorDrapion]

I’m not lying, I hard claim Investigative role.

[ProfessorDrapion]

PD any good info you can give about whoever you invested N1? If you should keep that to yourself, fair enough, but I imagine you'll be high on the NK targets for N3 with this claim.

That can wait until after Bella checks in

CSF already answered what I would have.

[ProfessorDrapion]

The fact Math flipped wolf and Bella is almost mechanically outed wolf, I doubt Puppet is ever a wolf.

[ProfessorDrapion]

You know it’s funny because both Bell and Bella were in my PoE.
One flipped town and the other is gonna flip Wolf.

Wolf PoE:
Bellaphant - Almost Outed Wolf via Mechanical/Role.
T-Bone
Bell - Flipped Town
Math - Flipped Wolf
CSF
Enchant

[ProfessorDrapion]

Ima townie brownie!

Also Johnny hard defended taly iirc

Yeah but who says Taly is wolf?
Especially when Bella was the person who lead the Taly wagon if I remember correctly or at least started it up.

[ProfessorDrapion]

CSF is prob scum and Johnny is town if Bella is scum.

Why is that?

Sorry CSF, I don’t necessarily disagree with his statement.
But I’m also Bias so idk maybe you are town but your treatment on Math wasn’t so great.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I'm a doc, hence I think there must be two from flavour, I was on rad n1 then bell.

Ok so I guess this isn’t entirely a redcheck then.


I Hardclaim Tracker


N1: CSF - Action Failed for some reason
N2: Bella visited Bell.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I'm a doc, hence I think there must be two from flavour, I was on rad n1 then bell.

Juliet. I assume there's a jack.

@pooky, they felt strong town. I liked their reads. The masons seemed no point, I thought bb was limited utility, it was Luke or bell for me and I assumed if another doc then prolly on other obv! town

But Bell died despite that, so what are your theories on that?

I’m torn because both heads have been hard tr you all game but Idk why scum!you claims doc on dead town. So if you’re town, it would either mean scum has a roleblock, strongman or Bell was aesetic. Idk.

But unfortunately this isn’t clearing either. \_0_/

It would have to be strongman because they did visit Bell.

[ProfessorDrapion]

It would have to be strongman +ninja for Bella to be town.

Why Ninja?

[ProfessorDrapion]

Juliet. I assume there's a jack.

@pooky, they felt strong town. I liked their reads. The masons seemed no point, I thought bb was limited utility, it was Luke or bell for me and I assumed if another doc then prolly on other obv! town

I’ll tell you what, you stick on me then.
I wanna doubt they have infinite strongman.

[ProfessorDrapion]

VOTE: RCEnigma

Vote this.

[ProfessorDrapion]

RCE flipping wolf confirms Johnny as Town IMO.


Good way to clear Johnny here IMO.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I think I also might have saved a wolf.
I’m slowly starting to question my TR on Taly.


@Taly do more!

[ProfessorDrapion]

RCE, you said when you replaced in you're confirmable town.

That was a joke?

I mean you can go look at my math interactions and tell me that I’m not hard town here.

Dude I can name multiple people who look better, including myself.

[ProfessorDrapion]

RCE flipping wolf confirms Johnny as Town IMO.


Good way to clear Johnny here IMO.

I’m not flipping here.

Explain your EoD1.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I'm a doc, hence I think there must be two from flavour, I was on rad n1 then bell.

Ok so I guess this isn’t entirely a redcheck then.


I Hardclaim Tracker


N1: CSF - Action Failed for some reason
N2: Bella visited Bell.

@Puppet

[ProfessorDrapion]

RCE, you said when you replaced in you're confirmable town.

That was a joke?

I mean you can go look at my math interactions and tell me that I’m not hard town here.

Dude I can name multiple people who look better, including myself.

Luke, Pooky, Ceph. End of list ahead of me in regards to math.

And they all have being towny in common so, ya know.

So I take it you think Blue was a Buss?

[ProfessorDrapion]

RCE flipping wolf confirms Johnny as Town IMO.


Good way to clear Johnny here IMO.

I’m not flipping here.

Explain your EoD1.

What do I have to explain?

What was your thoughts during EoD1?

[ProfessorDrapion]

Like run me through your thought process.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Juliet. I assume there's a jack.

@pooky, they felt strong town. I liked their reads. The masons seemed no point, I thought bb was limited utility, it was Luke or bell for me and I assumed if another doc then prolly on other obv! town

I’ll tell you what, you stick on me then.
I wanna doubt they have infinite strongman.

I've not full claimed.

Did you not just claim Doc?
Lol.


Unless your saying your 2 shot or some shit.

[ProfessorDrapion]

RCE flipping wolf confirms Johnny as Town IMO.


Good way to clear Johnny here IMO.

I don’t tr Johnny, why do you?

They feel like ML bait.
I’d also have to look how Math treated that slot, I’m pretty sure they treated it as such but I would need to recheck.

[ProfessorDrapion]

We're not yeeting Bella.

Pooky is scum posting again.

Frog did call Math and Pooky both wolves.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Frog did call Math and Pooky both wolves.

Frog was a Vig kill, no?

Yep, by Pooky.

[ProfessorDrapion]

scum probly think the doctor will 50/50 between the claimed masons or some shit

theres no reason for them to think doctor will protect bell of all people in a 24p

That’s false, did you or did you not just claim you killed Frog SoD2.

[ProfessorDrapion]

So bad vig even if Frog was scum.

nah it was a good vig cuz I would've spent the entire day pounding the table chanting frog bloood frog blood frog blood

LOL OOPS I SUCK SORRY FROGSTER

scum probly think the doctor will 50/50 between the claimed masons or some shit

theres no reason for them to think doctor will protect bell of all people in a 24p

That’s false, did you or did you not just claim you killed Frog SoD2.

i never claimed vig or that i nightkilled any1

Wow this entire time I actually read that wrong I thought you claimed the shot on Frog.

So you not confirmed KP like I thought nor can we say for sure Frog wasn’t the one killed by mafia.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Those skilled at reading back may want to see who diverted Cephrir from gladiating Math.

~Titus

T-Bone.


I distinctly remember saying Math as my top wolf read out of the 5 Cephrir was asking us to order and T-Bone had the exact opposite list of mine and had Math as most town.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Yeah apparently Pooky says otherwise.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Pooky do you 100% didn’t visit Frog Night 1?
No potential reason for his death at all?

[ProfessorDrapion]

VOTE: Bella

[ProfessorDrapion]

It’s possible wolves have Roleblocker that blocked me N1.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Actually idk how hard I lean into Johnny!scum if Bella flips red.

I honestly feel like Bella!Wolf Spews Johnny Town.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Ok so I already decided.
We Yeet Bella today.

This resolves the most information.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I think if Bella is wolf then I know who the protective is and they might be at risk to be ML’ed today so we go Bella.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Nice!

[ProfessorDrapion]

Real Doc on me, pretty sure I know who you are.

[ProfessorDrapion]

No it doesn’t but I’m not gonna care to get into that because Bella likely just flips wolf.
I’m curious though why you theorize my track on Bella to be wolf aligned plus the fact I was pushing math hard to ever be wolf with them.

[ProfessorDrapion]

That was directly to mister T T Bone.

[ProfessorDrapion]

What?

You realize what Bella claimed right?
You realize they aren’t denying the track right?
You realize Bella is claiming their to be a strongman right?
You’ve been paying attention to thread right?

[ProfessorDrapion]

Yes, I want to know why his track on CSF n1 failed but it was successful on Bella. Something isn’t making sense with this but I highly doubt it has anything whatsoever to do with Drap’s alignment.

Mafia probably has a Roleblocker or Rolestopper, that’s what I conclude as most likely scenario.

[ProfessorDrapion]

You realize I've been arguing to flip Bella, right?

So you don’t want optimal vote and would rather ML the actual doctor?
Lol.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Oh wait.

You WANT to flip Bella?!?
I thought you didn’t want it.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I didn't say it confirms Drap as scum, I said it makes it more likely and in no way does it ever clear him as town.

But anyway just killing time till Talyslot speaks about Bell yeah?

Is Bella not enough? don’t worry.
If I track another wolf and execute them I’ll have to be confirmed town then.

[ProfessorDrapion]

looking forward to PD's latest track

I tracked the one dude who has a role that doesn’t visit.
Guess what? He didn’t visit.

[ProfessorDrapion]

BTW Johnny is Doc from my understanding.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Why would u say that.

Yeah why would it be BBT?
Pretty sure it’s Johnny.

[ProfessorDrapion]

No like speculate on who’s the doc

Johnny is PoE, it’s better the doc is known then ML’ed.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I’ll also even let Johnny choose my track via 3 names.

[ProfessorDrapion]

looking forward to PD's latest track

I tracked the one dude who has a role that doesn’t visit.
Guess what? He didn’t visit.

?

Why would you track someone who doesnt visit?

Because if you visited we could Yeet you because a person who talks to the dead isn’t able to visit.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I remember when I said initially that Johnny is prob!town on a Bella scumflip that someone reiterated it but I think it was just drap and they’re already town.

Correct!

[ProfessorDrapion]

@STD, Taly hasn’t posted onsite since the 20th. It isn’t acceptable to not still not prod them. I don’t want an empty slot not playing.

Especially since I’m townlocking them, we could use that slot’s input here.

Agreed.

[ProfessorDrapion]

So, who we killing

You