Gnosia Game over!

[Gimli]

hello I know nothing I read nothing and yet I'm here I'm town let's talk

[Gimli]

I'm the drapion slot and I didn't move anything

[Gimli]

Math is lying, but give me a second because I just replaced into this and I have a lot of catching up to do

[Gimli]

and it can take me a few days. <3

[Gimli]

I can be a potato and die a potato death. but if you guys prefer, I can learn this gamethread and understand the gamestate, but it takes time and I might have a bunch of stupid questions like 'how come the dead don't flip their roles?' and it'd be nice if someone was cool enough to answer

[Gimli]

and math is lying

[Gimli]

unfortunately

how come the dead don't flip their roles? how did you get like 12 people voting Jada last gameday?

[Gimli]

too wordy

what happened with jada?

[Gimli]

I'm not sure what's going on with Drapion slot vs Math right now or why they think each other is lying. But from what I understand, the way Drapion described his ability is that Block Argument forces the target to vote for the person they indicated sus towards. Jada indicated sus towards Drapion, but self-voted instead (which might indicate a non-vote, per the game rules that would turn into a self-vote).

Gimli can you explain your character ability for us?

okay...
I inherit the ability of the first dead player.

[Gimli]

the ability is inheriting the dead player's ability, so it was in fact 'used' on Jessica. are you feeling ok?

[Gimli]

I wasn't told what I got from Jessica. so.

[Gimli]

also even if you feel so sure about me being scum, give me time to enter the game. I replaced into 80 pages, asking for my head like this isn't nice, math.

[Gimli]

also even if you feel so sure about me being scum, give me time to enter the game. I replaced into 80 pages, asking for my head like this isn't nice, math.

Then don’t lie and say you did nothing?

you said I moved votes. I inherited an ability that I don't know what it is or what is does on day 1. I moved nothing.

[Gimli]

I have work fires and don’t have time for people lying.

*joins mafia game*
"I have no time for people lying"

get out of here with this crap. I'll read this game and get your pelt now, Math.

[Gimli]

okay let's all give this thing a second, then.

[Gimli]

so I inherited that block argument ability and then I used it on jada to make them vote for shiki

[Gimli]

by 'I' I mean my slot

[Gimli]

hi I feel like trying to catch up

[Gimli]

do we know for sure that jessica was scum? how? how about jada?

[Gimli]

it was a completely different player list when the game started lol. replacements galore.

[Gimli]

{Roden, JunkoChan, shiki}
{Scoliosis, Jessica Rabbit, Elmo teH AzN, Klick, Yume, FakeGod, Autere, Not Known 15, narrow parking}
{Marashu, Enchant}
(FG null still, can’t read. Marashu's 22 feels scummy.)

this is too much to come from scum so early (and twice) so I think it's town

[Gimli]

btw if you guys prefer I can go back to potato. my catch up will be terrible and obvious and annoying, and won't make it any easier to read the game after I'm done.

[Gimli]

Alive bug more benefits town.

Perhaps you are seeing something I am not seeing.

Help me see it.

Mafia can't remove bug from play by kill. Therefore, if we start losing, they actually will be forced to try to vote bug out before they achieve majority. Which is hard as it sounds.

If we outperform and somehow only one scum remains, then we can just vote out Bug without much problem (well KINDA we still have no hell way to know who is bug).

these thoughts are towny. or buggy. but not scummy so that's good.

[Gimli]

State your human.

In case there's a lie detector skill out there, stating outright that I win with town.

i am a human!!

i am still a human!!!

are you comet?

also

i, uh, don’t really get the conversation re:bug

like we just find towns/non-towns how are we meant to differentiate the bug specifically right now?

not vibing with those posts from LLB's slot.

[Gimli]

actually horrible to try to catch up as many of the players from d1 aren't here anymore, the game is flipless, and a looooooot of discussion is about mech

I might as well just potato, then. sorry. but I'm here you know, if anyone wants to talk about anything.

[Gimli]

actually horrible to try to catch up as many of the players from d1 aren't here anymore, the game is flipless, and a looooooot of discussion is about mech

I might as well just potato, then. sorry. but I'm here you know, if anyone wants to talk about anything.

I give you some insights.

NK15 is dead not CCed Engineer.
Jessica is Gnosia which are confirmed by our Coroner Herta (also unCCed).
Juda is Human. It means they are either Crewmember (Town), Bug (Third Party) or AC Follower (Traitor).
Herta is Coroner. I did mention it.
I am check of NK15. It means i am confirmed to be Human (Crewmember, AC Follower. Not Bug: Bug dies if Engineer targets them).

you're a fucking sweetheart, thank you

[Gimli]

Block argument

What in the god almighty is this?

lmao

[Gimli]

Not interested in MathBlade picking a fight with conftown.

VOTE: MathBlade

eh i don’t really think most of the mech stuff mathblade proposed actually makes sense

and like yeah can definitely see a potential angle to it

but also don’t really want to move wagon to a non-marashu player without marashu returning

Mech stuff that doesn't make sense is very SI for math.

Block argument

so that means jessica forced NK15 to vote for mathblade? in freeze phase.

[Gimli]

but that happened after she was hammered???

so, idk. is that antispew? what's the thread consensus?

[Gimli]

VC 1.7

Jessica Rabbit (6): Not Known 15, FakeGod, Herta, MathBlade, Enchant, shiki
Elmo TeH AzN (5): Jada, Ranger, ProfessorDrapion, Jessica Rabbit, Roden
Enchant (1): narrow parking
Not Known 15 (1): beeboy

Not voting (2): Elmo TeH AzN, Freedom

Deadline is in (expired on 2022-12-18 23:03:13)

With 15 players alive, it takes 8 to fade away

shouldn't we resolve elmo? since jessica failed to use her ability for self pres?

[Gimli]

I'm human and I'm town

[Gimli]

lets kill beeboy

[Gimli]

I'm town so it'd be a terrible thing to kill me

[Gimli]

what's not making sense to you re: mechanics? apparently you're the only one who has a problem with the claim, and now that I finally understand everything it's clearly all in the thread for everyone to see it. only you can't see it so it's a problem you have. ask me anything, I'm here to help.

[Gimli]

The simple answer is Jessica somehow blocked the cop post hammer
Drapion inherited the ability, lied and then was forced to use it on Jada

Jada is either traitor or just super bad town leaning the traitor

that's not correct. Jessica's ability was related to voting, and afaict she only put it to use post getting hammered.

it goes more or less like this: you quote someone either defending or suspecting someone else with 'block argument', and that person's vote will stick to whoever they were defending or suspecting. when jessica used her ability, she was already hammered (right?) so it made no difference. when my predecessor used it, it sticked jada's vote on shiki. that didn't show in the VC but it's what the ability does.

[Gimli]

so, when I replaced in I didn't have all this information, meaning I didn't know what ability I inherited and that I used it already etc. that information came to me later. that, or I'm scum or bug or traitor and I'm lying, that's up to you guys to decide not me. but if I'm town, that's what happened wrt not having all info, and I don't wanna expand too much on it cause it becomes angleshooting, DUCY.

now Math is being rude. I wasn't expecting to replace into a game that's a mess already and be treated like this.

[Gimli]

Night 2 Freeze Vote

Jada (12): Herta, ProfessorDrapion, Esooa, Mathblade, Ranger, Freedom, FakeGod, Enchant, beeboy, Lady Lambdadelta, Not Known 15, narrow parking,
Roden (1): Roden
Lady Lambdadelta (1): Jada


Not voting (0):

Jada has been frozen!

Finding replacement for Roden.

Huh, ok, it adds up then if the VC was the error. The ability seems real now.

oh, see, shiki is LLD. it's in the VC lol. damn math you dummy.

[Gimli]

yeah i think professordrapion not gnosia because wanted to take credit for jessica rabbit elimination in like,

like a see i was useful even though i wasn’t on the wagon look that was me i did that sort of way

which would be, uh, uncommon for a partner i think

That's actually scummy to be off wagon, push for the other, then take credit

Block Argument

here, math. do you see it? do you understand it? shiki is LLD.

[Gimli]

you can keep pushing me but you now know that my ability is confirmed.

[Gimli]

and anyway you do you, but next time someone replaces in, give them a hi, tell them why you suspect them, etc, instead of being a meanie.

[Gimli]

Because I think you are scum... When you are in a grest bussing/bug slot?

Hmm

Yep. Pretty much this. I don’t think you’ve put thought into why I can’t be group scum based on the setup. And bug will likely resolve itself.

I fully expect NK15 to check me and scum can’t kill me to frame me as bug. So if I die I know it’s the scum NK and then NK15 clears me. If scum kill NK15 to avoid that possibility (assuming no doc protect) then the fact I am not dead confirms me not bug. The slimmest of margins that could be argued after tonight is traitor but then traitors generally die with the last scum.

I really don’t think you’re thinking your sus through.

Cool.

Welcome to not bug status for me.

I have work fires and will get to this later.

Nope. NK15 was roleblocked last night.

No status for you.

how do you know NK15 was roleblocked? is that your one-shot?

[Gimli]

Because I think you are scum... When you are in a grest bussing/bug slot?

Hmm

Yep. Pretty much this. I don’t think you’ve put thought into why I can’t be group scum based on the setup. And bug will likely resolve itself.

I fully expect NK15 to check me and scum can’t kill me to frame me as bug. So if I die I know it’s the scum NK and then NK15 clears me. If scum kill NK15 to avoid that possibility (assuming no doc protect) then the fact I am not dead confirms me not bug. The slimmest of margins that could be argued after tonight is traitor but then traitors generally die with the last scum.

I really don’t think you’re thinking your sus through.

does that logic make sense to anyone not called mathblade?

[Gimli]

Because I think you are scum... When you are in a grest bussing/bug slot?

Hmm

Trust me Lady.
Math isn’t Group wolf.
Suicidal play as Traitor.

Can very well be bug though but that’s why we have a GA to protect the cop so they can kill the Bug.

do we know why my predecessor was sure Math wasn't group wolf? or, is that a read?

[Gimli]

No, i roleblocked NK15.

what. why?

[Gimli]

Fine. I think i should't had bet on common sense and claimed instantly. Oh well.


I am Kukrushka, anyone who targets me with any ability at night will feel regret and roleblocked for next night. It's passive and i can't disable that. It's also infinity use.


Avoid me. Tsk.

ah, that's why NK15 was roleblocked, cause it targeted enchant. got it.

[Gimli]

so mathblade, knowing NK15 would be roleblocked that night cause he has to know this since post 1533, was still trying to push me for it like this was something I did lol. what's worse, taking enchant's word at face value without understanding how enchant knew about the roleblock. I did replace in clumsily but it's not really my fault, is it? mathblade is clueless. or scum. or both.

[Gimli]

and then parading around that he'd be confirmed town. not great, but anyway.

I like the idea of killing beeboy, since it's potatoing much harder than I am as a replacement.

[Gimli]

I'll go ahead and download gnosia and play the game, looks good

[Gimli]

"sneaky shit"

[Gimli]

I like the idea of killing beeboy, since it's potatoing much harder than I am as a replacement.

How about narrow?

maybe? but like, what's the case on narrow etc. I haven't really read enough to scumhunt so I'm leaning on good cases and whatnot. the case against beeboy is a replace in that isn't playing any mafia and that looks like resigned scum to me.

[Gimli]

I'm not pushing narrow, I'm asking what's the case on narrow since freedom mentioned them

[Gimli]

I'm not pushing narrow, I'm asking what's the case on narrow since freedom mentioned them

oh I see that is good

did you know that NK15 our dead cop originally picked your slot to be killed on day 1?

no I didn't, thank you for sharing

[Gimli]

I'm still here btw, sorry I dozed off from this game

[Gimli]

i don't think so

weird for town to have such a power tbh

[Gimli]

I didn't know that, but right after I posted what I posted I thought 'maybe it was randomly assigned' and then 'maybe there's something to this power narrow isn't claiming for some reason' because it's a pointless power otherwise.

[Gimli]

I suppose everyone knows who I am and what I do already

btw I'm playing gnosia and it's mafia! and just like mafia, I suck at it.

[Gimli]

I think Mara, Gimli's predecessor, claimed Protag.

I don't mean to make mathblade furious -but- I didn't receive a name with my role pm. I'm main character and crewmate and human. my color is red.

[Gimli]

no one:
mathblade: self votes
??????????

[Gimli]

welcome gerryoat don't mind the mess

[Gimli]

VOTE: LLD

just because of the 'math is scum' comment, I forgot everything else about this game by now

also I think I was voting beeboy or was going to go there but let's wait for the replacement

[Gimli]

I think we should consider eliminating the player who is asking to be eliminated.

I'll happily refresh a town power, though, that's not all the role can do. It apparently can also remove a power?

So LLD is scum or bug. Lolz.

I agree with this

[Gimli]

not cause of the mechanics cause idk what anyone is talking about re: mech

but trying to jump on your self made wagon indicates scum to me

[Gimli]

I'm glad I'm enjoyable

still heavily dislike your reaction to math's self vote

[Gimli]

look I even have the clown nose, don't take me seriously

[Gimli]

how were you so sure math was scum from the get go btw?

[Gimli]

you seem like town now

good talk

who do we vote?

[Gimli]

VOTE: narrow parking

[Gimli]

VOTE: narrow parking

Why do you think narrow is scum?

we have one day until the gameday ends and this is the only wagon

[Gimli]

hi everyone

i'm having trouble getting through 90 pages but i'm gonna do my best. i do a little better when im in the game and can interact with the slots. if someone wants to catch me up that would be great.

i'm familiar with gnosia but it's been a while. it was a pretty sweet game though

Lmao

That's so brave

[Gimli]

I have no idea what's going on this game either and am just potatoing but people seem to believe my claim apart from mathblade. I'm doing what everyone tells me to do mostly

[Gimli]

I inherited the first dead player's ability which is moving a vote and then I moved a vote

[Gimli]

That was some other slot, I'm a day 3 replacement or something

This game is absolutely mental to make sense of and I suggest you join me in potatoing it

[Gimli]

My predecessor (marashu?) Gave the name to the player, I forgot. I didn't get a name with my role. I'm the protagonist

[Gimli]

The main character

[Gimli]

Crewmate so basically a VT with that one shot "self learning"

[Gimli]

If we hit Gnosia, we lose.

(town win con is achieved, but Bug is still alive, therefore Bug victory)

Lol?

So how do we bug hunt?

[Gimli]

Do you need this potato for anything? lld wanted to try a thing where my ability gets refreshed, idk if it can work because it says I inherited the first dead player's ability, so I guess I'd inherit the same ability again which is an useless one

[Gimli]

I did vote for mathblade

[Gimli]

I have no idea what I want

[Gimli]

i'll do what people want to do i have no clue

this is my vibe

[Gimli]

What I want specifically is to kill the people who are just vibing and letting things go and giving townie vibes to the world because they are hyper likely to be Bug.

And kill the person who is likely to be Gnosia at the very end.

okay I want LLD first

[Gimli]

Why? We have to kill Bug first, is that something bug says?

Or are you just trying to kill me now that I've described what you are doing and want to kill you, which makes me a threat to your wincon?

I'm trying to kill you cause you want to kill everyone that's doing what I'm doing as a townie

I can't bug hunt I have no motivation to bug hunt, IDK where to start with these things, you pushing that narrative that this is how bug plays is suspicious to me

you're too firey and whatever since you replaced in, you have the motivation no one else has

[Gimli]

so my priority is LLD, I have no other reads I think she is bug now

[Gimli]

prod dodge

esooa? okay

[Gimli]

GG all

Thanks Mariar for modding

Congrats STD for the Win

<3