Gnosia Game over!

[Gimli]

VC 1.7

Jessica Rabbit (6): Not Known 15, FakeGod, Herta, MathBlade, Enchant, shiki
Elmo TeH AzN (5): Jada, Ranger, ProfessorDrapion, Jessica Rabbit, Roden
Enchant (1): narrow parking
Not Known 15 (1): beeboy

Not voting (2): Elmo TeH AzN, Freedom

Deadline is in (expired on 2022-12-18 23:03:13)

With 15 players alive, it takes 8 to fade away

shouldn't we resolve elmo? since jessica failed to use her ability for self pres?

[Ranger]

I am fine with that PoE but add Drapion and LLD

Drapion can be bug, but is absolutely not Gnosia.

LLD is just town.

[Gimli]

I'm human and I'm town

[Ranger]

Narrow parking could be. Is Beeboy just cause they're not posting?

Mostly, yes. The last time the slot contributed anything was when it was Autere. This is the iso of the slot. beeboy replaced in on December 15th. 23 days ago. 3 weeks ago. 51 pages ago. beeboy claimed they wouldn't read anything before their replace-in, but do the math: there's been more content after beeboy's replacement than there was before beeboy's replacement. The game has been going longer with beeboy in it than it has been without (first 9 days).

If beeboy had flaked from the game, that level of contribution would be understandable. However, beeboy was active enough to submit a vote.

Night 2 Freeze Vote

Jada (12): Herta, ProfessorDrapion, Esooa, Mathblade, Ranger, Freedom, FakeGod, Enchant,

beeboy

, Lady Lambdadelta, Not Known 15, narrow parking,

Voting and Freezing:

1. If you do not vote before the deadline it will be counted as a self-vote.

beeboy has not flaked from the game, they submitted a vote on Jada.

And yet, in spite of the game having more content by every possible metric after beeboy's replace-in, beeboy has absolutely zero content given.

beeboy's sparse iso this game is comparable to a scumgame. It is also comparable to a different scumgame.

Near as I can tell

,

this

is a

towngame

from beeboy. Note the difference? A 3 page iso compared to two scumgames of bare minimum.

I realize beeboy has longer-iso scumgames. I realize beeboy has sparse in the way of recently completed towngames. (Most of beeboy's games have beeboy as a replace-out.)

But beeboy has no excuse for having been this absent yet having remained in the game. beeboy has contributed literally

nothing

.

[Gimli]

lets kill beeboy

[Ranger]

Narrow parking could be. Is Beeboy just cause they're not posting?

Mostly, yes.

Spoiler: beeboy not posting evidence

The last time the slot contributed anything was when it was Autere. This is the iso of the slot. beeboy replaced in on December 15th. 23 days ago. 3 weeks ago. 51 pages ago. beeboy claimed they wouldn't read anything before their replace-in, but do the math: there's been more content after beeboy's replacement than there was before beeboy's replacement. The game has been going longer with beeboy in it than it has been without (first 9 days).

If beeboy had flaked from the game, that level of contribution would be understandable. However, beeboy was active enough to submit a vote.

Night 2 Freeze Vote

Jada (12): Herta, ProfessorDrapion, Esooa, Mathblade, Ranger, Freedom, FakeGod, Enchant,

beeboy

, Lady Lambdadelta, Not Known 15, narrow parking,

Voting and Freezing:

1. If you do not vote before the deadline it will be counted as a self-vote.

beeboy has not flaked from the game, they submitted a vote on Jada.

And yet, in spite of the game having more content by every possible metric after beeboy's replace-in, beeboy has absolutely zero content given.

beeboy's sparse iso this game is comparable to a scumgame. It is also comparable to a different scumgame.

Near as I can tell

,

this

is a

towngame

from beeboy. Note the difference? A 3 page iso compared to two scumgames of bare minimum.

I realize beeboy has longer-iso scumgames. I realize beeboy has sparse in the way of recently completed towngames. (Most of beeboy's games have beeboy as a replace-out.)

But beeboy has no excuse for having been this absent yet having remained in the game. beeboy has contributed literally

nothing

.

Additional reasoning can be found in Jessica's iso.

Spoiler: every mention of the slot

Ranger, could you explain why you have Autere so high in your reads?

MOD MariaR:
Klick, Scoliosis, Elmo TeH AzN, Jessica Rabbit, and narrow parking are

all

in prod range.

With JunkoChan being replaced,

Six slots are absent from the game

;
That leaves only nine votes in play, when it takes eight to push an elimination through.

With it being impossible to get an elimination through without every player present voting

(which includes the scum),

can we have more than just a 24 hour extension for the deadline?

Either a freeze of it or an extension after each slot needing replacement has been filled?

You forgot Autere

mod

You also had Autere (beeboy) as well but I understood your initial Junko read more.

Hesta :igmeou:
Marashu :igmeou:
Jessica Rabbit :igmeou:
Elmo TeH AzN :igmeou:
Mathblade :igmeou:
Ranger :shifty:
FakeGod :shifty:
beeboy :igmeou:
Jada :igmeou:

What does :shifty: , :igmeou: mean? Is :shifty: higher or lower for you than :igmeou: ?

In particular I feel 970 is partner-indicative above all others, but all of them look partnerey.

Incidentally, I feel Jessica's lack of interaction with narrow parking also spews narrow parking as quite likely Gnosia.

I actually hate narrow parking more.
I just sheep conftown.

He didn’t even give a reason for his vote. What happened to all of the earlier wagons that stalled? Why aren’t you even a bit suspicious that I’m suddenly the lead wagon out of literally nowhere?

This is her only mention of narrow parking at all. If that were in regards to narrow parking's vote on her, this reaction is

far

more subdued than her comparable reactions to FakeGod, ProfessorDrapion, and MathBlade.

long parking's first mention of Jessica was a question mark, more seriously called null. When voting, the vote looks like a classical scum bus. 1458 indicates he may have been looking for an excuse to switch off, since it contradicts 1432.
And long parking had beeboy as town once, but has not mentioned the slot before or since.

Neither slot has done anything I've thought is town, both slots fit as scum with Jessica, both fit as scum with each other.

I'd prefer us to eliminate one of them today.

[Esooa]

actually horrible to try to catch up as many of the players from d1 aren't here anymore, the game is flipless, and a looooooot of discussion is about mech

I might as well just potato, then. sorry. but I'm here you know, if anyone wants to talk about anything.

yea I had the same when I tried reading a couple pages

[Esooa]

actually horrible to try to catch up as many of the players from d1 aren't here anymore, the game is flipless, and a looooooot of discussion is about mech

I might as well just potato, then. sorry. but I'm here you know, if anyone wants to talk about anything.

I give you some insights.

NK15 is dead not CCed Engineer.
Jessica is Gnosia which are confirmed by our Coroner Herta (also unCCed).
Juda is Human. It means they are either Crewmember (Town), Bug (Third Party) or AC Follower (Traitor).
Herta is Coroner. I did mention it.
I am check of NK15. It means i am confirmed to be Human (Crewmember, AC Follower. Not Bug: Bug dies if Engineer targets them).

oh you can still be traitor?

[Esooa]

Narrow parking could be. Is Beeboy just cause they're not posting?

Mostly, yes.

Spoiler: beeboy not posting evidence

The last time the slot contributed anything was when it was Autere. This is the iso of the slot. beeboy replaced in on December 15th. 23 days ago. 3 weeks ago. 51 pages ago. beeboy claimed they wouldn't read anything before their replace-in, but do the math: there's been more content after beeboy's replacement than there was before beeboy's replacement. The game has been going longer with beeboy in it than it has been without (first 9 days).

If beeboy had flaked from the game, that level of contribution would be understandable. However, beeboy was active enough to submit a vote.

Night 2 Freeze Vote

Jada (12): Herta, ProfessorDrapion, Esooa, Mathblade, Ranger, Freedom, FakeGod, Enchant,

beeboy

, Lady Lambdadelta, Not Known 15, narrow parking,

Voting and Freezing:

1. If you do not vote before the deadline it will be counted as a self-vote.

beeboy has not flaked from the game, they submitted a vote on Jada.

And yet, in spite of the game having more content by every possible metric after beeboy's replace-in, beeboy has absolutely zero content given.

beeboy's sparse iso this game is comparable to a scumgame. It is also comparable to a different scumgame.

Near as I can tell

,

this

is a

towngame

from beeboy. Note the difference? A 3 page iso compared to two scumgames of bare minimum.

I realize beeboy has longer-iso scumgames. I realize beeboy has sparse in the way of recently completed towngames. (Most of beeboy's games have beeboy as a replace-out.)

But beeboy has no excuse for having been this absent yet having remained in the game. beeboy has contributed literally

nothing

.

Additional reasoning can be found in Jessica's iso.

Spoiler: every mention of the slot

Ranger, could you explain why you have Autere so high in your reads?

MOD MariaR:
Klick, Scoliosis, Elmo TeH AzN, Jessica Rabbit, and narrow parking are

all

in prod range.

With JunkoChan being replaced,

Six slots are absent from the game

;
That leaves only nine votes in play, when it takes eight to push an elimination through.

With it being impossible to get an elimination through without every player present voting

(which includes the scum),

can we have more than just a 24 hour extension for the deadline?

Either a freeze of it or an extension after each slot needing replacement has been filled?

You forgot Autere

mod

You also had Autere (beeboy) as well but I understood your initial Junko read more.

Hesta
Marashu
Jessica Rabbit
Elmo TeH AzN
Mathblade
Ranger
FakeGod
beeboy
Jada

What does , mean? Is higher or lower for you than ?

In particular I feel 970 is partner-indicative above all others, but all of them look partnerey.

Incidentally, I feel Jessica's lack of interaction with narrow parking also spews narrow parking as quite likely Gnosia.

I actually hate narrow parking more.
I just sheep conftown.

He didn’t even give a reason for his vote. What happened to all of the earlier wagons that stalled? Why aren’t you even a bit suspicious that I’m suddenly the lead wagon out of literally nowhere?

This is her only mention of narrow parking at all. If that were in regards to narrow parking's vote on her, this reaction is

far

more subdued than her comparable reactions to FakeGod, ProfessorDrapion, and MathBlade.

long parking's first mention of Jessica was a question mark, more seriously called null. When voting, the vote looks like a classical scum bus. 1458 indicates he may have been looking for an excuse to switch off, since it contradicts 1432.
And long parking had beeboy as town once, but has not mentioned the slot before or since.

Neither slot has done anything I've thought is town, both slots fit as scum with Jessica, both fit as scum with each other.

I'd prefer us to eliminate one of them today.

what about 970 is partnery?

[Ranger]

what about 970 is partnery?

Loosely, unnatural focus on the reads section beeboy was among.

[Esooa]

theres 6 uses of that emoji used for beeboy, idk how it's specifically about him

[Freedom]

Imo my theories.

1. Jada was GA. Gnosia have some way to learn identity of dead players instantly or was sure enough about it to attack NK15 instantly. Most likely from specials.
2. GA decided to gambit. Rookie mistake. But why Gnosia attack then? Did they knew about gambit?
3. Gnosia have way to prevent protections. Why they didn't use it... First night?
4. Gnosia roleblocked GA. Most unbelievable: not only they need to know who GA, they need to have roleblock ability.


So... You know. Time to hardclaim your specials.

You know my is Regret.

I want everyone else to claim or Confirm their special abilities. It's necessary to learn who could prevent NK15 protect.

If you are not agree you free to object me, but you need hell reason.

I think a massclaim would be good.
I already claimed but if you missed it, I'm

Sha-Ming

. My ability is

Grovel

. If I am the majority vote, I have a day to tell the mod to enable my ability. If I do, then a dice is rolled and under unclear circumstances, I may or may not survive the freezing.

[MathBlade]

I can compromise on narrow but I don’t understand how others aren’t calling for Gimili’s head since we need to have at most two wagons.

[Freedom]

I can compromise on narrow but I don’t understand how others aren’t calling for Gimili’s head since we need to have at most two wagons.

Do you mean at least two wagons?
Because, I don't see why you're upset about nobody really wanting to kill Gimli.

[Freedom]

I can compromise on narrow but I don’t understand how others aren’t calling for Gimili’s head since we need to have at most two wagons.

Do you mean at least two wagons?
Because then I don't see why you're upset about nobody really wanting to kill Gimli.

EVWOP

[Herta]

I can compromise on narrow but I don’t understand how others aren’t calling for Gimili’s head since we need to have at most two wagons.

Your argument for gimli is they Sussed you right? That's just not all that compelling. If it was more objective sure.

[Gimli]

I'm town so it'd be a terrible thing to kill me

[MathBlade]

I can compromise on narrow but I don’t understand how others aren’t calling for Gimili’s head since we need to have at most two wagons.

Your argument for gimli is they Sussed you right? That's just not all that compelling. If it was more objective sure.

It’s that and when the sus started happening and why and the mechanical claim makes no sense.

[Gimli]

what's not making sense to you re: mechanics? apparently you're the only one who has a problem with the claim, and now that I finally understand everything it's clearly all in the thread for everyone to see it. only you can't see it so it's a problem you have. ask me anything, I'm here to help.

[Gimli]

The simple answer is Jessica somehow blocked the cop post hammer
Drapion inherited the ability, lied and then was forced to use it on Jada

Jada is either traitor or just super bad town leaning the traitor

that's not correct. Jessica's ability was related to voting, and afaict she only put it to use post getting hammered.

it goes more or less like this: you quote someone either defending or suspecting someone else with 'block argument', and that person's vote will stick to whoever they were defending or suspecting. when jessica used her ability, she was already hammered (right?) so it made no difference. when my predecessor used it, it sticked jada's vote on shiki. that didn't show in the VC but it's what the ability does.

[Gimli]

so, when I replaced in I didn't have all this information, meaning I didn't know what ability I inherited and that I used it already etc. that information came to me later. that, or I'm scum or bug or traitor and I'm lying, that's up to you guys to decide not me. but if I'm town, that's what happened wrt not having all info, and I don't wanna expand too much on it cause it becomes angleshooting, DUCY.

now Math is being rude. I wasn't expecting to replace into a game that's a mess already and be treated like this.

[Gimli]

Night 2 Freeze Vote

Jada (12): Herta, ProfessorDrapion, Esooa, Mathblade, Ranger, Freedom, FakeGod, Enchant, beeboy, Lady Lambdadelta, Not Known 15, narrow parking,
Roden (1): Roden
Lady Lambdadelta (1): Jada


Not voting (0):

Jada has been frozen!

Finding replacement for Roden.

Huh, ok, it adds up then if the VC was the error. The ability seems real now.

oh, see, shiki is LLD. it's in the VC lol. damn math you dummy.

[Gimli]

yeah i think professordrapion not gnosia because wanted to take credit for jessica rabbit elimination in like,

like a see i was useful even though i wasn’t on the wagon look that was me i did that sort of way

which would be, uh, uncommon for a partner i think

That's actually scummy to be off wagon, push for the other, then take credit

Block Argument

here, math. do you see it? do you understand it? shiki is LLD.

[Gimli]

you can keep pushing me but you now know that my ability is confirmed.

[Gimli]

and anyway you do you, but next time someone replaces in, give them a hi, tell them why you suspect them, etc, instead of being a meanie.