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HURT: Enchant
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Why wouldn't you vote self in nightmare?Wizard-Mercenary
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VOTE: DragonEater
Bad vote even for RVS.Wizard-Mercenary
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You should put me in, otherwise these idiots will try to use vig.Wizard-Mercenary
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No.In post 104, KawaiiKame wrote:
Do you feel vig is a negative utility role?In post 102, Enchant wrote: You should put me in, otherwise these idiots will try to use vig.Wizard-Mercenary
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I surprise you, but in most cases roles like these doesh't work in ELO so your logic are faulty.In post 109, DragonEater70 wrote: HURT: Save The Dragons, KawaiiKame, Temporal Lich, Gimli, Empath, DragonEater
Btw Gimli I think is town because, from a mech standpoint, being hated only makes sense for town (basically makes ELo more dangerous) but doesn't work really with scum. Of course it could be a red herring though.
And nightmarin' myself because I'm conftown in my eyes.Wizard-Mercenary
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Because it forces police elimination on player which is unfun.
Mod probably say it. In Role PM. Did you ask Gimli?Wizard-Mercenary
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I don't know who thinked that OMGUS is scummy and writed this on wiki (now people parrot this as universal scumread without thinking), but if someone thinks that selfvoting for PR is scummy, then they DESERVE the vote in response.Wizard-Mercenary
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I got fed up by this from coalition and i will be mad if you force me to go in this again.Wizard-Mercenary
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It's obviously not RVS vote and even if is, it sucks.Wizard-Mercenary
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I never said it's RVS vote, i said even if it's RVS vote it sucks.Wizard-Mercenary
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Why i even trying.Wizard-Mercenary
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What exactly i need to control.Wizard-Mercenary
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So if i am scum i know answer and if i am town i don't know answer and you refuse to give me any. Because i am confirmed scum already and therefore not worth answering.In post 137, TemporalLich wrote: If you were really scum you'd already know the answer to that question
pedit: I'm not seeing what you're seeing Empathice
Makes sense. Now piss off.Wizard-Mercenary
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Only invention worth giving away first night is Friendly Neighbour.Wizard-Mercenary
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Didn't read further.In post 142, TemporalLich wrote: imo either vig or FN is goodWizard-Mercenary
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Eh.
If you give FN for someone and they scum, they are forced to lie that teammate received message or die or pretend to be roleblocked.
First is gradually risky for obvious reason.Wizard-Mercenary
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Oh shut up alreadyIn post 154, TemporalLich wrote: Vig get less useful the later in the gameWizard-Mercenary
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It's still badWizard-Mercenary
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Anyone would give self vigshot at first opportunity because they are smartest/deserved it/it's funny/insert reason, it doesh't mean it's best for town.In post 161, DragonEater70 wrote:
Idk.In post 159, Enchant wrote: It's still bad
I also don't like how you present yourself as tryong to avoid a vig trollshot when knowing you, you would give yourself vigshot at first opportunity.Wizard-Mercenary
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As only voice of reason i am going in nightmare.Wizard-Mercenary
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Why i would't careWizard-Mercenary
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Jeez i don't want vigilante...
... no i mean i want it.
No i mean everyone want it. Including me. But i have composure to NOT abuse vig and choose something better instead.Wizard-Mercenary
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Issue is i am bad player.In post 196, DragonEater70 wrote:
I actually agree that it was a bad RVS vote but since when do you scumread ppl for bad RVS vote? At best Enchant's counter vote is another bad RVS vote.In post 187, Gimli wrote:
yeah that was a good post I think. scumreading dragoneater's RVS vote and whatnot, I agree it was a bad vote even for RVS. I think enchant feels engaged and happy with the game in a way that mirrors his town game well. but its early, I'm just strong townreading it atm.In post 185, TemporalLich wrote:
why do you townread enchant?In post 184, Gimli wrote: enchant very likely town
I don't really see how enchant could be towny especially since enchant has no reads other than scumreading dragoneater for voting enchant because enchant self nightmare voted
You should had knew better.Wizard-Mercenary
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So guys i think we are in cult game.Wizard-Mercenary
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Gimli does it work in ELOWizard-Mercenary
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well gimli is negative utility for town we can't keep him alive in ELOWizard-Mercenary
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What i should tell youWizard-Mercenary
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Idk i remember town!ranger also put me as scum in Gnosia, but tried to kill me more actively than that.Wizard-Mercenary
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I think using abbreviations is TSTIASWizard-Mercenary
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I joked about being traitor, i was actually town.In post 439, Ranger wrote:
DragonEater was not under severe pressure, and the push was one with a weak enough basis that focusing on it as you did seems unnatural. It was overblown. It was out of place. It wasn't something casually done, or done to make a point. It looked like you went out of your way to defend DragonEater, in a way I don't think town would be inclined to.In post 414, Morning Tweet wrote:I'm curious why exactly I come across like im forcing a townread on Dragon to Ranger. And also prolly why Ranger has Enchant so low
Enchant is so low because Enchant's contributions have looked strongly +scum to me. The reasons for defense of Enchant boil down to meta, but those meta defenses of Enchant seem lazy at best, disingenuous at worst. I don't think people being truly honest with themselves have conviction Enchant's contributions are definitively town. I can understand themviewinghis posts as town. I can understand them having a surface-level take on Enchant which they don't bother to dig deeper on at this stage.
But from what I've seen, Enchant is not outside of his scum range, and his contributions have been suspect.
Why wouldn't I have him so low?
Enchant's contributions have been forced in a way I feel is likely scum-indicative. I'm not seeing anything which looks remotely town from Enchant, and I see plenty which looks like scum. Given me not buying the meta defense, I've no reason to not have him that low as meta is hisIn post 414, Morning Tweet wrote:I can understand disagreeing with the meta but what has Enchant at the bottom of your possible suspects at the bottom of your reads since P4 onwards to presentonlydefense for his play right now.
You hard-1v1d the cop who I fully believed to be the real cop, that made it much easier.In post 416, Enchant wrote:Idk i remember town!ranger also put me as scum in Gnosia, but tried to kill me more actively than that.
After your retraction I retracted my scumread there because you were no longer confscum.
Speaking of that game, you were scum there and your contributions here remind me of your contributions there, so...
It just happened that role list was never released so you never knew.
Game is also ridiculously bastard. Who makes OPEN SETUP and then "hey you know i silently make one of roles modified".
Haha very funny.Wizard-Mercenary
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I am confusedWizard-Mercenary
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I am not convinced that Dragon is townWizard-Mercenary
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I played with Ranger two times.
Gnosia: Both town.
I made this setup in 2021(or something): Both Mafia, but different teams. We knew each other though.Wizard-Mercenary
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High chance it's not MT ability.Wizard-Mercenary
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I am bored can we kill someone alreadyWizard-Mercenary
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VOTE: Kyoko
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whyIn post 647, imaginality wrote: I don't see it being a protown move for MT to force herself into the nightmareWizard-Mercenary
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I am simple person
Someone ignores me i don't care
VOTE: imaginalityWizard-Mercenary
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Yeah i am not unvoting.Wizard-Mercenary
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I guess i am not in nightmare, but if you decide to use vig, DON'T.Wizard-Mercenary
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I could say only once, but...
Oh well.Wizard-Mercenary
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I targeted Clone btw.Wizard-Mercenary
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Good work from Korina in convincing mods to play along and ban Clone so it looks like real deal.Wizard-Mercenary
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