Pokemon Battles 2 - Attack on Giratina [GAME OVER]

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Metens please ensure you get an avatar, here is one you can use

villagery

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VOTE: pink ball
He knows why

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thats pretty funny

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I too am town

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if all the towns come and claim town then we win

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oh wow

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I take credit I kickstarted the game lmaoo

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squirtle would u be willing to quantify ur read on me a bit more precisely/vividly? like is it just a gut thing to get the game going, or would u call it a legit scum lean, etc
idk

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also curious @FL if you have a read on my posting lmfao

I think without asserting a take on me, FL commentary on the sheep debate is maybe the wolfiest if I had to pick one lol

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pagetop

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Squirtle is town too

can u say more abt ur reads on squirtle/klick

I think my instinct about their exchange is very different from urs

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also VOTE: sheepsaysmeep

vibes are off.

Sheep is literally my only townread so far

why

I think he feels comfortable

I don't agree, I think popping in the thread and jumping in on two jokes is the opposite of "being comfortable"

How so?

this insertion also wolfy

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I dont like this shift into actually playing mafia it's so weird bruh

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I dont like this shift into actually playing mafia it's so weird bruh

then don't. enjoy the shit posting with me fellow citizen

yes ok

haha squirtle signature says "it squirts out water with vigorous force" funny

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squirtle would u be willing to quantify ur read on me a bit more precisely/vividly? like is it just a gut thing to get the game going, or would u call it a legit scum lean, etc
idk

idr feel the need to help you figure out how to defend yourself.

either you'll show you're town or you'll die and either outcome is ok.

it's more for me trying to read u lol, not concerned with defense

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Squirtle is town too

can u say more abt ur reads on squirtle/klick

I think my instinct about their exchange is very different from urs

Squirtle's read on you seems legit, not coming from scum pushing town or scum pushing a partner
Klick's defense on you seems legit, not coming from scum trying to whiteknight really early game or scum protecting a partner.

Scum!Squirtle doesn't need to do either of those things this early as scum.
Scum!Klick doesn't need to do either of those things this early as scum.

Not saying that they wouldn't but they don't have to, so I'm assuming they aren't.

mehhhh

I wifomily disagree with the middle section logic in that they both look traditionally good from being the first to say a bunch of serious stuff, so there is a reason to do this

but whatever

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I think norwee is towny

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VOTE: patchwork

down

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(no offense sheep but this playerlist has a lot of other players that I would consider as a priority to get townread from)

I will be this town's leader

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this is squirtlesquad's first game of mafia. you can tell by their low site postcount.

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Chandra I remember u labeled this a meta thing right, can u provide like past games u think show the disparity

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{Pink Ball, jjh927, Doctor Drew}
{Metens}
{Skygazer, Titus}
{Chandra Nalaar, sheepsaysmeep}
{Not_Mafia, Firebringer}
{Klick, NorwegianboyEE}
{Invisibility, SirCakez}
{Magical Girl}
{SquirtleSquad, patchwork}
{Blue, Black, Flavor Leaf}

P4

ive never seen anything like this

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VOTE: kittytacky

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pop-out

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VOTE: kittytacky

Nah, he's probably town.

why

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(I’m filming my film and the next 5 days I’ll be doing stuff for that)

wow glhf bro

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VOTE: kittytacky

Nah, he's probably town.

why

Comfortable entrance, gave a few townreads but not really trying to blow the thread away with his opinions, he's relaxed and taking it easy. Gut tells me that's a townie.

I dont like this read

would u feel different if I had a scumgame with kitty where their general posting style was similar? Come in for a bit, catch up + post a sequence of thoughts, exit. that feels like what ur read is essentially commenting on

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Not much comment on early pages.

I don't actually have a strong opinion on sheep.

The mech in this game is pretty confusing to me, I'll engage with it but I'll try and focus on day play.

Fire null, I mean sure this kind of irreverence can be town, but it's very possible to just troll as scum.

Welp caught up, little to say about the last 4 pages, I'll keep watch on a few slots (not saying which).

these in combination all felt a little too show-y to me without saying anything

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and my impression of kitty in that wolfgame was a little scared of direct interaction, which is also a vibe I get from their catchup. here and posting lots but not really engaging with anyone

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that said I didnt read his posts in a ton of depth because he was actually dead when I subbed in

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Not much comment on early pages.

I don't actually have a strong opinion on sheep.

The mech in this game is pretty confusing to me, I'll engage with it but I'll try and focus on day play.

Fire null, I mean sure this kind of irreverence can be town, but it's very possible to just troll as scum.

Welp caught up, little to say about the last 4 pages, I'll keep watch on a few slots (not saying which).

these in combination all felt a little too show-y to me without saying anything

Was it a very recent game they were scum with you?

Pre Edit: I read all your posts like it is your avatar speaking.

But I have never seen you lash out like this

lash out is too strong Im just lazy to put it in one post lmaoo. it was a recent schadd large normal, ive only been playing mafia again for like a month. other ppl here were in it like sky/flavor

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I think flavor is towny lol

I was going to say I disagree about ranger but ranger having jjh in like the second-highest tier was what reminded me that jjh exists in the game, so I do sort of see the point about showy/agenda

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oh and also invisibility towny

Ranger does this every game iirc, it's NAI.

defending a player without legit understanding/processing the push against them = bad

You mean the game I subbed into where you and Kitty were scum?

oh ya oops lmaooo

but I dont want to talk about that game a lot as an important evidence point, I just thought it immediately disproves blue's described defense

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If I point to a game where I was scum, I would say as much.

Sheep didn't say that, they pointed to a game where they were scum with Kitty to say how they could be scum.

Then when I pointed it out that Sheep was also scum, Sheep that said game shouldn't be talked about as far a lot of important evidence.

Even though they are using it as a point to push Kitty.

Blue, walk me through the logic here.

Sounds like they were saying it's a minor component of their argument against Kitty.

-Blue

yeah lol

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I was actually gonna call drew villagery like very short time ago lol

but theyre effectively lying at this rate to support their push lmao. like I dont get how that perception of what ive been saying is possible. idrk

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When it retracts its long neck into its shell, it squirts out water with vigorous force.

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Go to day 5

Is flavor leaf a dead villager?
Flavor leaf is villager

Has flavor leaf been helping kill wolves?
Flavor leaf can be villager

Have flavor leaf’s actions been pro-wolf?
Flavor leaf is likely wolf

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Good players easy read

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ok wait eh it’s not fully like that but yakno

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I think I scumread chandra for vaguely similar stuff but the understanding that this was an alt meant for a certain playstyle cleared up a lot of my misgivings

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Also “aggression is a useful tool” was like a very reasonable response to me

Too lazy to go check whether I understand ur read fully correctly

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I feel like this game/playerlist commits me long-term. I feel like im gonna be alive in like fucking f3 or something in 2 months and I hate it

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weh

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squirtle what do ur main reads look like outside of drew

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But ok I think patchwork is town, I think firebringer is town very strongly, I think drew is scum. I think ranger and blue are the top of the null scum pile.

Other than that lots of null pings.

ok ty

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UNVOTE:

naked unvotes are wolfy

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gg

one down

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UNVOTE:

naked unvotes are wolfy

gg

one down

VOTE: sheep
this shit is just so scummy. it's the exact type of fake content i try to generate as scum, to get people to think im doing something.

I dont rly want ppl to think im doing something recently, that would be a sorta ridiculous notion

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Way too understanding

I like this thought I thought something rly similar in like Black's first few posts

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they felt too appeasing

idk the word

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Way too understanding

I like this thought I thought something rly similar in like Black's first few posts

they felt too appeasing

idk the word

Is it because I defended you? Pink is reading me based off of a game we recently played together. Where does your read come from and what do you think it says about my alignment?

I just noticed that your first posts prior to the cakez thing were overall like, taking the sides of ppl under pressure and it made me think slight wolf. wasnt rly the defense of me in particular

I dont think it's a super reliable scumthing, I more just think it means pink ball v because they seem to have noticed something somewhat vaguely similar

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1 jjh927 - bleh
2 Firebringer - slight town
3 SirCakez - slight town tone but I havent thought much about his actual thoughts
4 Flavor Leaf - meh
5 Pink Ball - slight town
6 KittyTacky - maybe slight town I dont think he's wolf anymore
7 WhemeStar - idk
8 Blue. - slight town
9 Skygazer - slight town
10 Doctor Drew -ehhhh slight town tone but I actually agree with the notion that he's doing nothing and if it keeps going I would want to kill
11 Titus - slight wolf kinda awk
12 Chandra Nalaar -town
13 Sheepsaysmeep -town
14 Klick -slight wolf, recent catchup was just kinda underwhelming tho I get theres a lot
15 Invisibility - town
16 Ranger - slight wolf
17 Patchwork - was gonna say wolf prior to catchup but .now idk I'll look at the meta ppl are talking about someday
18 Black - gth wolf
19 Not_Mafia - slight wolf
20 SquirtleSquad -idrk meh
21 Metens - null
(Malakittens + Mewtaph)
22 NorwegianboyEE -slight town, idk just feels different from some recent wolfgame
23 Magical Girl -slight wolf

will be unlikely to explain further in response to requests

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What is a gth wolf

"gun to head wolf"

like gut pings but more like null

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pagetop

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let's just hammer and get some flips going imo

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ISO's

1. jjh927

slight wolf

Spoiler:

I may be being lazy but I'm not gonna pass on that invitation. Do you have a real opinion on Pink Ball yet

Y'all I'm here now but I don't really want to read 40 pages I just want to play. Someone talk to me.

I'll try to skim/catch up but I feel my time would be more productive engaging someone

I don't think sitting here waiting for people to ask you questions about a game you haven't read is more productive than reading said game and sharing your thoughts. You don't even have to read it all. Just start somewhere and tell us what you think

I may be being lazy but I'm not gonna pass on that invitation. Do you have a real opinion on Pink Ball yet

Not yet but I'll keep that in mind

What kind of questions did you think people were gonna ask you that would actually be helpful if you haven't got a read on what looks to be an eminently readable slot that you are still voting

I may be being lazy but I'm not gonna pass on that invitation. Do you have a real opinion on Pink Ball yet

Not yet but I'll keep that in mind

What kind of questions did you think people were gonna ask you that would actually be helpful if you haven't got a read on what looks to be an eminently readable slot that you are still voting

If it is so readable, how are you reading it?

Town

Idk I just sort of don't believe this exchange lol
1. it felt like wolfily jumping onto black's accusation
first jjh indulges sircakez with a normal question in 980, and then suddenly he sees something wrong with cakez approach based on black's lead

2. Why are you picking pink ball as the slot you ask about and then making a big deal out of it? feels made up along the way
-if you want another opinion on a slot, I dont think you're asking about a slot that you assert is easily readable as Town
-if you're asking because theyre an interesting slot in this game or one of the more readable slots in this game, that just feels not true lol

In the previous pokemon game which was a upick I was slakoth and could not engage with the battle mechanic or any other mechanic in the game in any way

My name is Slakoth. I'm as old as Gen 3. My turf is in the northeast section of Petalburg Woods, where all the bug catchers are, and I am not married. I do not work, and I spend all of my time at home. I don't smoke or drink. I'm in bed for most of the day, and make sure I get 20 hours of sleep, no matter what. After eating 3 leaves before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a working adult, I wake up with fatigue and stress in the morning, but I then continue to sleep until the evening. I was told they hope to see me again at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone.

Since it has been brought up again, I think all the stuff about keeping quiet about training dummy fights is probably a bit overblown, but there is some value to it

this is just a slightly wolfy post because of the way in which it says nothing

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2. Firebringer

slight town

-I think he is un-agenda'd. Like I think if he were wolf he might choose a vibe/approach that has more impact on the game? but rn he seems like he doesn't care about exerting an impact on the game, in a town way
-I think him calming down thread toxicity was genuinely pro-town
-I actually rly like his thoughts. like I liked his Pink ball scumread when it first appeared in like page 5, and I like the consistency when PB emerged as an option today and then FB was immediately willing to vote Pink Ball. I think with his all over the place posting style it would legit be hard to maintain that fluency with fake reads

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ISO's

1. jjh927

slight wolf

Spoiler:

I may be being lazy but I'm not gonna pass on that invitation. Do you have a real opinion on Pink Ball yet

Y'all I'm here now but I don't really want to read 40 pages I just want to play. Someone talk to me.

I'll try to skim/catch up but I feel my time would be more productive engaging someone

I don't think sitting here waiting for people to ask you questions about a game you haven't read is more productive than reading said game and sharing your thoughts. You don't even have to read it all. Just start somewhere and tell us what you think

I may be being lazy but I'm not gonna pass on that invitation. Do you have a real opinion on Pink Ball yet

Not yet but I'll keep that in mind

What kind of questions did you think people were gonna ask you that would actually be helpful if you haven't got a read on what looks to be an eminently readable slot that you are still voting

I may be being lazy but I'm not gonna pass on that invitation. Do you have a real opinion on Pink Ball yet

Not yet but I'll keep that in mind

What kind of questions did you think people were gonna ask you that would actually be helpful if you haven't got a read on what looks to be an eminently readable slot that you are still voting

If it is so readable, how are you reading it?

Town

Idk I just sort of don't believe this exchange lol
1. it felt like wolfily jumping onto black's accusation
first jjh indulges sircakez with a normal question in 980, and then suddenly he sees something wrong with cakez approach based on black's lead

2. Why are you picking pink ball as the slot you ask about and then making a big deal out of it? feels made up along the way
-if you want another opinion on a slot, I dont think you're asking about a slot that you assert is easily readable as Town
-if you're asking because theyre an interesting slot in this game or one of the more readable slots in this game, that just feels not true lol

In the previous pokemon game which was a upick I was slakoth and could not engage with the battle mechanic or any other mechanic in the game in any way

My name is Slakoth. I'm as old as Gen 3. My turf is in the northeast section of Petalburg Woods, where all the bug catchers are, and I am not married. I do not work, and I spend all of my time at home. I don't smoke or drink. I'm in bed for most of the day, and make sure I get 20 hours of sleep, no matter what. After eating 3 leaves before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a working adult, I wake up with fatigue and stress in the morning, but I then continue to sleep until the evening. I was told they hope to see me again at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone.

Since it has been brought up again, I think all the stuff about keeping quiet about training dummy fights is probably a bit overblown, but there is some value to it

this is just a slightly wolfy post because of the way in which it says nothing

VOTE: jjh nvm this vote is cool

VOTE: jjh

thanks bro let's be better masons than flavor/whoever

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it's in playerlist order sorry WhemeStar

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3. SirCakez

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first ISO impression was decent town

-I think the "I'm here ask me anything" entrance is slightly towny, even if the responses "how was this supposed to be productive" are valid. it's just slightly >rand town to me to be that willing to engage
I think Immediately switching over to a completelyy different approach (the catch-up) after admitting the old one didn't work is slightly >rand town

-his tone matches past games where he was town, tho I've never seen him wolf
and I think independently of meta, the abrasive aggression in his tone is slightly more often town

-his takes are what gave me some doubt;
I agree with the reactions that some of these takes are pretty mid-quality. but I think a lot of it (like inaccurate facts) can be pretty directly attributed to the fact that he's spending like 2 minutes per page apparently. and I don't rly think the decision to skim that extremely is super AI?

I just think there's a lot of "this is super bad -> buttt Idk if I'd call it non-null right now" that bugged me. a) calling a lot of pushes "so bad" seems TMI and b) "null" appears like 13 times in his short iso which I just dont think the null line should be referenced so much, esp with the confidence he's talking with

Titus claims Invest Ascetic? That could be a fakeclaim, Ill call it null for now

dont really think sheep is scummy and think this wagon is just people making up bs to end rvs

all of these early pushes are kinda garbage tbh

Squirtle is definitely making shit up as evidenced by the terrible Doctor Drew vote in 202

Ranger has the opposite reads of me. i have no idea if this makes her town or scum but worth noting.

i don't know how to read drew tbh. i see him getting some flak and wouldn't necessarily support or oppose.

some examples of overagression + non-stances

but otherwise when he does take a stance I just sorta believe he thinks them, the way theyre presented

I don't think I would vote today idk

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4. Flavor Leaf

skip

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*Black's, I mixed them up because Black's avatar is blue

not w/w gotem

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how well do u know flavor

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I think kitty wolfy again

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VOTE: drew

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VOTE: drew

hi Sheep. What happened to townlean?

I changed my mind I dont like him

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and im starting to townread squirtle more so I'll just let him have whatever wagon he wants

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and im starting to townread squirtle more so I'll just let him have whatever wagon he wants

Why are you townreading him more?

I think the rly laid-back chilled out commentary style is kinda villagery for the type of player I think they are lol. based on the start of the game I thought they might try to power and control the whole town and stuff

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what this game needs is ITA shots

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or I guess the battles serve that purpose but night is too far away

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did you see any cool birds in the woods

do you birdwatch?

sometimes!

me too omg this is awesome

not w/w

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5. Pink Ball

I think I feel a little worse after ISO'ing pink ball. like Im not sure I outright scumread him but my townread is more iffy.

I just dont like his townreads in this game. he accumulates townreads, that I disagree with, for very small things, and then those people stagnantly stay as firm townreads. it feels like a mass pocket (see 843)

-I didnt like his early townread of Klick/squirtle for the way they took the game out of RVS. I just think it was a faulty read + feels like he's immediately trying to be on good terms with big presences
I dont like that klick has just stayed sitting there as townread, despite reason to scrutinize klick since then
-I dislike that he just bins Kitty as "lol kitty is town." he quotes a contradiction in 437 which I think is legit a little wolfy?? but has no effect on his defending kitty
-I dislike that he just bins patchwork as town
I dislike that he just bins jjh as town?? @pb can you talk about that one

yeah our worldviews are a bit too different
just feels like a bunch of potential whiteknighting or wtv via "lol x is town"

also

Spoiler:

Votes that I accept as good reasoning, in no particular order:
Whemestar
Sheep
Dr Drew
Blue*
Invisibility

Boring votes with less than good reasoning:
patchwork
Sir Cakez
Magical Girl
Jjh
Titus

*if you think that Blue is scum you’re wrong but it’s valid

this is just a very wolfy post to me, calling votes "boring with bad reasoning" is just a very wolfy thing that ive never seen before

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6. KittyTacky

wolf read

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Not much comment on early pages.

I don't actually have a strong opinion on sheep.

The mech in this game is pretty confusing to me, I'll engage with it but I'll try and focus on day play.

Fire null, I mean sure this kind of irreverence can be town, but it's very possible to just troll as scum.

Welp caught up, little to say about the last 4 pages, I'll keep watch on a few slots (not saying which).

these in combination all felt a little too show-y to me without saying anything

I still think this first catchup is the most straight-up wolfy catchup of the game

Ranger does this every game iirc, it's NAI.

insanely wolfy defense of a player without even reading the push against them; I'm surprised Flavor didn't jump on this more

Generally, this is a player who feels like he is trying to make his catchup Many posts in a row to seem villagery. Like I know people have described patchwork that way, but only with KittyTacky rather than patchwork have I seen many posts that feel like they are simply trying to inflate post count.

If Cakez scum then Blue very sussy.

Blue and Squirtle are not w/w.

It seems like a genuine fight and not theatre.

these associatives are like, 50% of the content in his second catchup. you start to realize that theyre fairly devoid of legit meaningful content at all

FL is def town, like I'll be extremely shocked if he's scum.

this is just not real, you cant confidently townread fl rn. I admit it's not super wolfy to have the read if you dont know him well. but his signature is literally about his wolf capabilities


I agree his vibes are better than the wolfgame I played with him. I am less confident he is a wolf than if I had never seen this guy before

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this is just a very wolfy post to me, calling votes "boring with bad reasoning" is just a very wolfy thing that ive never seen before

if you've never seen it before how do you know its wolfy?

idk in theory it's a very wolfy thing

it's offhand defending a bunch of slots in a way that doesnt even make sense / is inherently flawed, how can you know outright that all votes on these players would be for bad reasoning

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I guess I have seen before defending slots by calling a vote there boring

I think it's mildly wolfy

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I honestly think wheme ISO is pretty villagery lol for d1

I just had an amazing thought maybe I am the genius

Okay so black is going on about how cakez training dummy question could be scummy and I’m like I dknt really agree with that cause I think it can just be a way to start conversation which made me think yeah he’s just trying to start conversation like in an RVS phase but then I’m like hmm why does he need to do that because the game has 20 pages of content and isn’t in RVS anymore so the harmless conversation generating question doesn’t really have a point anymore

for example I like this lol

I like his engagement with Chandra in response to being scumread
I think he is trying to sort Chandra and it's in a villagery way

1000 in particular but a multitude of posts

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I honestly think wheme ISO is pretty villagery lol for d1

I just had an amazing thought maybe I am the genius

Okay so black is going on about how cakez training dummy question could be scummy and I’m like I dknt really agree with that cause I think it can just be a way to start conversation which made me think yeah he’s just trying to start conversation like in an RVS phase but then I’m like hmm why does he need to do that because the game has 20 pages of content and isn’t in RVS anymore so the harmless conversation generating question doesn’t really have a point anymore

for example I like this lol

I like his engagement with Chandra in response to being scumread
I think he is trying to sort Chandra and it's in a villagery way
1000 in particular but a multitude of posts

7.

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VOTE: drew

VOTE: drew

hi Sheep. What happened to townlean?

I changed my mind I dont like him

These were some very wolfy posts from Sheep again. Still content with my vote here.

why lmao

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i'm not sure what kind of complex i have but i tend to scumread people when they townread me and townread people when they scumread me

I think ur towny in this game

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yeah I also thought that metens post was like very remarkably null

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VOTE: metens

let's just kill someone and do Pokemon battles

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unironically

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why am I dropping it makes me uncomfortable

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Fire and sheep should join on kitty

VOTE: kittytacky

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no please put me back I'll be better

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we legit should hammer someone before page 100

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1 Save the Dragons
jjh927
3 SirCakez
5 Pink Ball
6 KittyTacky
10 Doctor Drew
11 Titus
14 Klick*
16 Ranger
17 Meuh (maybe not this/std)
Patchwork
19 Not_Mafia
21 Metens
(Malakittens + Mewtaph)
23 Magical Girl*

would flashwagon any of these slots just in order to go into night

nothing personal

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everyone should make a similar list and then we can progress and be done

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damn 13 is an unlucky number we're gonna lose this game

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this is exhilarating

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and we're so close to the page-100 deadline I established

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thanks $elene

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tonight I will boost the defense +1 of all kitty tacky wagon joiners

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if u can surround it in white like the vote tags on this site that would be sick

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Bruhh

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Would not switch

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Tbh I might vote despite townread just to end it

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Can we take to new page so mod can count for me

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fuck y'all we were so close

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Let's have competing wagons. Why not?

is fine but I think the amount of time it would take for enough other ppl to come and actively do something in the decision between blue/kitty is a bit too long for me

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I iso'd blue and I think I v-read them less and would be fine voting

I think, I disagreed with people that the style of jumping into other ppl's reads and refuting them was wolfy; I found the way they did that actually p villagery because I agreed with them frequently. but what I dislike is how this often came with a lack of stance. it was often "blah blah blah, but I dont know. it could go either way. im just keeping an eye out for now." in a kinda wolfy way

very few reads actually stated and when they are stated there are some I dont like, like kitty defense for seeming comfortable, as well as their dr drew townread


im likely sort of confbiasing myself

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Scum can very easily force posts early in the game to appear 'productive', because being serious early looks townie. Not saying that's what happened here, but you're taking a very surface level view of their posting.

What's your stance then?
Is Klick manufacturing their stance to look productive, or are they just posting a "well actually" kind of post that town!Klick usually posts?
Is Squirtle trying to look productive by pushing sheep, or is his scumread on sheep legit?

Not particularly, no. I thought sheep's posts were about as null as you can get and so anyone seeing things there was imagining things that weren't there. Squirtle's push there was forced, which isn't necessarily scummy, although it can be. I don't think it was though, but that's based on other stuff he's posted. I'd be more concerned if he was still trying to push sheep.

I don't have issues with the conclusions you made, I just don't trust your reasoning.

a random example that just feels a bit overdone to me

VOTE: kittytacky

Nah, he's probably town.

why

Comfortable entrance, gave a few townreads but not really trying to blow the thread away with his opinions, he's relaxed and taking it easy. Gut tells me that's a townie.

I dont like this read

would u feel different if I had a scumgame with kitty where their general posting style was similar? Come in for a bit, catch up + post a sequence of thoughts, exit. that feels like what ur read is essentially commenting on

No, but I like that you're making that read, it's a good look for you. My read on Kitty is a gut read, it could be wrong, but I'm not going to sweat it right now.

an exchange I didnt like

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I would not be happy with this lim if this felt like a real d1 of mafia

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VOTE: blue

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yeah that would be fun

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tbh if they didnt happen to be next in my order I wouldnt have checked it out lol

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sky ISO is villagery but way less villagery than our last game and im curious where @sky thinks they've been in terms of their wolfrange/villarange

I think what ive been townreading could really easily just be their personality lol but meh

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I think it would be immensely pro-town to start getting rid of like half the player count

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klick is trying a little to get into the game and failing and it's like +5% wolf

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I think kittytacky is town-ish now

I would still lim because genuinely what is the point of existing rn

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Ok fine

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the good news is i think we're finally out of RVS

wow with 8 days and 15 hours still left thats pretty impressive

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if we combine the top two wagon counts we get to learn something really cool

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rathe are u interested in doing like an ISO of someone

I genuinely dont care if u are or not just a suggestion

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kitty/drew seem like easy straightforward ones

maybe cakez

or u could like use activity overview to find out which ones are the shortest

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I iso'd blue and I think I v-read them less and would be fine voting

I think, I disagreed with people that the style of jumping into other ppl's reads and refuting them was wolfy; I found the way they did that actually p villagery because I agreed with them frequently. but what I dislike is how this often came with a lack of stance. it was often "blah blah blah, but I dont know. it could go either way. im just keeping an eye out for now." in a kinda wolfy way

very few reads actually stated and when they are stated there are some I dont like, like kitty defense for seeming comfortable, as well as their dr drew townread

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I also think ur posting has been mildly wolfy lol

but like 90% I just think we need to be playing Pokemon by now

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lots of people here should adapt an approach of like, never feeling a need to be caught up with the actual thread, but just ISO'ing different slots and working off of reads from that

-have played many 12 hr / 12 hr mashes with hundreds of people

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k i have ur reason for ur vote

Will u do anything with it

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too scummy to be scum is egregiously misused throughout this game

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I am the god of making too scummy to be scum reads

nothing here is too scummy to be scum

an example of too scummy to be scum is WhemeStar. Chandra said they looked at wheme games as town and wolf and Wheme posted better in both. Wheme is clearly capable of appearing towny but someone who doesn't care about appearing towny, but he's still playing the game, making valid reads and pushes. Wheme is too scummy to be scum

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I find it wolfy that klick has made like, 3 or 4 too scummy to be scum reads this game

that feels a bit tmi/whiteknighty or whatever

too scummy to be scum is like by far the main reasoning he's used in this game

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I feel like multiple fluff posts building off of others' jokes is asking for the early vote and most scum would tend towards avoiding that

Klick ur strongest read?

I feel rather good about KittyTacky town. I think his play is not trying to accomplish anything that scum wants to accomplish. There are several KT posts that feel like they are basically asking to be suspected. Scum avoid making those kinds of posts. Town post what they want.

k pretty much caught up on the blue voters n i think most likely town on the wagon r save the dragons titus doctor drew chandra squirtle n meuh

klick skygazer sheep n pink ball r null or scum most likely

I read this kind of content and struggle to see it coming from scum in this position. It's really weak. The purpose seems to be to get thoughts out in the thread. I see little scum utility - I wouldn't expect these sorts of solving posts to actually sway anyone to my side if I were scum in this position. I think this posting is happening because Rathe is having these thoughts.

I also think something Rathe is doing is actively antagonising you (@Squirtle) with these posts and I think that's a pretty unappealing strategy for scum to take in this situation if you're not partners.

I just dont rly buy th

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my understanding was it's like "I think this player is doing this traditionally scummy thing, which I think is actually a town who just isn't recognizing that like a scum would"

which feels inherently a little TMI-y

idk not a strong read

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I feel like meuh is the slightly more villagery version of what rathe tried to do

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I am on the side that the rathe defenses are kinda bad btw

I just think theyre flailing; I think they chose some stuff to really confidently say (how I would expect wolf there to act) and then are compensating for not making much sense by spamming more post quantities

I think they are a bit overly desperately self-preservationist rather than trying to be helpful

I feel worse about rathe than I did about blue

granted other people probably read rathe's posts more in depth

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I have reached my quota of meaningful content for the day

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see u tuesday

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I feel like meuh is the slightly more villagery version of what rathe tried to do

What? I don't get this comparison

different versions of "I refuse to go back and legit read the thread, I solve by being here" lol idk

the idea that u are solving is slightly more believable to me

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I think they are a bit overly desperately self-preservationist rather than trying to be helpful

k get to e2 n see how u react i am being helpful what r u doing

I would put myself at e-1 at this rate

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VOTE: kittytacky

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V OTECOUNT 1.29
E LIMINATION V OTES
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES
Rathe (5)	Titus, SquirtleSquad, Doctor Drew, Meuh, SirCakez
Meuh (4)	Ranger, Chandra Nalaar, Klick, Save the Dragons
Black (3)	Metens, Not_Mafia, Enchant
Pink Ball (3)	WhemeStar, KittyTacky, Firebringer
SirCakez (2)	NorwegianboyEE, Rathe
Chandra Nalaar (1)	Flavor Leaf
KittyTacky (1)	Sheepsaysmeep
Skygazer (1)	Black
NOT VOTING: Magical Girl, Skygazer, Pink Ball
With 23 alive, it takes 12 votes to flip! Deadline: (expired on 2023-06-12 10:16:25)
Notes: All alive players gain +1 DEF. Magical Girl is V/LA until Monday

this is horrible

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pagetop

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ok popping back out

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VOTE: rathe

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VOTE: rathe

Why are you so scummy all of the sudden

towny is effort towny is not natural

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By the way, Metens is still scum.

Could vote this but its def not spicy

could vote this

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I remember I was rly hopeful we could hammer before pg 100 and now it's 150

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I would quickhammer literally any player in this game right now

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lmfao

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what was it that made u choose to check magical girl more deeply

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like it feels a little weirdly random for someone who basically didnt post in the first 20 pages of the game

but im probably mildly down

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what I remember is that rathe wasn't unwilling to claim, he was just very reluctant to claim and was like "do I really have to already"

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I dont think rathe has been playing antagonistically, he just subbed in and saw he was e-2 with intents to hammer and knew he needed something desperate and started spamming "this Wagon is so shit"

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I would like to kill rathe

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everyone provides a list of multiple people they'd vote

we all agree to wagon and kill the person who was in the most lists in 24 hours

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everyone provides a list of multiple people they'd vote

we all agree to wagon and kill the person who was in the most lists in 24 hours

Ok but why would you not give your own list here?

maybe people think my plan is stupid

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everyone provides a list of multiple people they'd vote

we all agree to wagon and kill the person who was in the most lists in 24 hours

Or just vote.

1 vote has not been working for like a week

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ive tried hopping other places but I was misled with false hope that the wagons would succeed and now ive realized everything is futile

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VOTE: magical girl

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ive tried hopping other places but I was misled with false hope that the wagons would succeed and now ive realized everything is futile

You've been voting Rathe since he was Blue last Friday, with one vote switch to Kitty in the middle...

ive been trying to end the day phase since before the dinosaurs were born

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u all started later and think u know the mental toil

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ive tried hopping other places but I was misled with false hope that the wagons would succeed and now ive realized everything is futile

You've been voting Rathe since he was Blue last Friday, with one vote switch to Kitty in the middle...

ive been trying to end the day phase since before the dinosaurs were born

I know you're just trying to be funny but you haven't been trying. Like at all

I definitely have lol

it's unironically from that experience that I know moving to new wagons is pointless

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I dont get the point of this convo, do u think this is scummy of me

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I dont get the point of this convo, do u think this is scummy of me

I think you got a bunch of townreads from your early ISO dives and then you've been coasting on that. I don't think this is inherently scummy but it could be a valid tactic here if you are scum

I think I generally scumread people that pop in and out, randomly pushing stuff along but not doing much else. I try to consider this bias though bc this seems to be the prevailing playstyle here and it's not really as scummy as I thought it was when I first joined

I guess I'm trying to light a fire under you to do more like you were doing earlier in the Day. I can't make you obviously but maybe engaging with you will reignite your passion

yah I see I think that makes sense based on what you've been saying abt me here and there

I feel a little bad making this assertion but I refuse to put in any effort until this fuckin day phase 1 somehow ends, I decided that around when I did my last iso a week ago it was like that's enough this is silly

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magical girl isnt even as close as I fycjing thought it's e4 or some shit

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we're gonna end up fucking no limming

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We have 4 1/2 days.

we've largely agreed we should try and just kill someone for like 6 days already

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The Plan

everyone will post a list of names in yellow (easy to spot) that they would compromise on. The name that was in the most lists after 8 hours is the lim we agree to all join

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my list:

SirCakez
KittyTacky
Rathe
Doctor Drew
Meuh
Not_Mafia
Metens

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lld isnt this different from ur stance when u first subbed in and realized it was day 1 lol

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meh

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I think the way the stuff has been going is already guaranteed to hit town

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It feels impossible here that 12 people agree to kill one person if the wolves would prefer not

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we're gonna end up fucking no limming

this is ping-y.

I don't think there's any real risk of that. I can count on my hand the number of times I've seen a no lim go through because of gamestate reasons like this in like 17 years.

I don't think you're actually doing that much to get us to lim either.

I dont actually think it'll no lim lol theres just stuff about this game state I just genuinely dont understand how is happening

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Fuck me I want to end the day but it def flips town

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Fuck this day man

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Fuck that’s so embarrassing

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UNVOTE:

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im mildly compelled abt meuh sometimes but I think their approach of "I'll support literally any wagon" and then basically actually doing that is something scum would shy away from

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VOTE: kittytacky

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ok nvm

VOTE: magical girl

e1

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All battles are resolved. It's now day 2!

no one else fucking died??

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VOTE: metens

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Lol I specifically put my name down to replace in because of Flavor. Regardless of alignment my guy is chill.

pocketing

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VOTE: italiano

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VOTE: kittytacky
Feels like a good place to start today

I'm not scum.

has responding this way generally worked well for u im genuinely interested

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from my one completed game with shea, I dont think it's scummy of him to hyperfocus on a wolfy slot lol

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villagery post

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prod dodge

1 Save the Dragons - idk
2 Firebringer - idk
3 SirCakez - towny
4 Flavor Leaf - towny
5 Lady Lambdadelta - idk
6 KittyTacky - sometimes towny but I want to flip
7 WhemeStar - towny
8 ItalianoVD - let's flip
9 Skygazer - town
10 Doctor Drew - idk, could flip
11 Titus - idk
12 Chandra Nalaar - towny, I will probably just follow Chandra Nalaar around, probably unwarranted but it feels right
13 Sheepsaysmeep - town
14 Klick* Meloetta
15 Enchant - idk lol gut town
16 Ranger - idk
17 Meuh - idk
18 Black - gut town but ehh
19 Not_Mafia** - lol let's flip
20 SquirtleSquad - towny?
21 Malakittens - scummy lol
22 NorwegianboyEE - towny
23 Magical Girl* Glimmet

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happy cake day

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someone fought me and I feel like it's wolfy to fight me there but idk how much I should talk about it

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I thought it was town kp lol but I have not been reading

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gg