Weird Dreams Mafia Redux [Finished]

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Um, would you like to contribute more to the game? Like, an opinion or a vote or something?

VOTE: DragonEater70

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imagine having not contributed nearly as much as you intended to

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ok I read the game

dragoneater70 - originally I found them the scummiest tonally. they felt very performative/LAMIST, such as with lots of literally saying "let's do something game-advancing now" (no one says that when doing something game-advancing now). but then someone said this felt like town!dragoneater from last game. and I sort of just believe that maybe that way of writing that I found scummy is playstyle. so now I no longer want to push it and it's a potential townread pending me one day skimming the game in question

ranger - I think they are lightly villagery. their first readlists aligned a lotttt with what I was feeling in early pages.

radical rat - I like their push that rauth is too obsessed with finding the IC alternatives. like it is a just a good push. it actually makes me feel more RR!town than rauth!wolf; im slightly skeptical of it as making rauth wolf because it's almost too egregious (python saying "I'll policy the next person to talk about mech" and then rauth keeps talking about mech feels like something wolves might want to avoid ??)

usespython - when I was just lurking they felt like 99% obvtown on vibes. when I read through it's more meh but still prob just town

morning tweet - gut says slightly scummy. I just thought her takes were mid in 150 I was not feeling them lol

Titus - if I had to force a read their vibe fits with what I understand of their town meta lol but meh

Kyoko - if this is their first time trying the weird scum meter thing (if I didnt misunderstand) then I'd honestly give a couple town points lmao. otherwise very meh

snivy - feels pretty wolf. in general their early posting was the most stiff. treatment of ranger feels like buddying ("wow you're doing readlists every post?! that's so game-advancing and towny" for something I think is fairly clearly predetermined playstyle).

abnegation - my gut says this is what I think newer-player villagers look like

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I have settled on agreeing completely about IC strat. I was going to argue for vig shots but then I realized IC is in fact mechanically better.

I am fine settling for everyone in the pool today idk lol. or we can try to go for a pure pool, I think I generally can build d1 towncores that have a decent chance of being that good. but if we're going to attempt that, then it feels ridiculous to even be tossing around votes right now when half the game has done stuff; that feels like a matter for after like another week

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ok I read the game

dragoneater70 - originally I found them the scummiest tonally. they felt very performative/LAMIST, such as with lots of literally saying "let's do something game-advancing now" (no one says that when doing something game-advancing now). but then someone said this felt like town!dragoneater from last game. and I sort of just believe that maybe that way of writing that I found scummy is playstyle. so now I no longer want to push it and it's a potential townread pending me one day skimming the game in question

ranger - I think they are lightly villagery. their first readlists aligned a lotttt with what I was feeling in early pages.

radical rat - I like their push that rauth is too obsessed with finding the IC alternatives. like it is a just a good push. it actually makes me feel more RR!town than rauth!wolf; im slightly skeptical of it as making rauth wolf because it's almost too egregious (python saying "I'll policy the next person to talk about mech" and then rauth keeps talking about mech feels like something wolves might want to avoid ??)

usespython - when I was just lurking they felt like 99% obvtown on vibes. when I read through it's more meh but still prob just town

morning tweet - gut says slightly scummy. I just thought her takes were mid in 150 I was not feeling them lol

Titus - if I had to force a read their vibe fits with what I understand of their town meta lol but meh

Kyoko - if this is their first time trying the weird scum meter thing (if I didnt misunderstand) then I'd honestly give a couple town points lmao. otherwise very meh

snivy - feels pretty wolf. in general their early posting was the most stiff. treatment of ranger feels like buddying ("wow you're doing readlists every post?! that's so game-advancing and towny" for something I think is fairly clearly predetermined playstyle).

abnegation - my gut says this is what I think newer-player villagers look like

Abnegation is an alt, not new....if that changes things for you.

oh wow thanks yeah it is helpful lol

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depressingly null then, maybe even slightly wolfy

the iso is fairly devoid of like original contribution, I just liked the confident tone lol

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snivy - feels pretty wolf. in general their early posting was the most stiff. treatment of ranger feels like buddying ("wow you're doing readlists every post?! that's so game-advancing and towny" for something I think is fairly clearly predetermined playstyle).

if im your only confident scumread then vote me

also is this implying me and ranger are scum buddies despite you saying you think ranger is townie?

it feels weird to read the words I said and consider that confident? I mildly dislike that as a sort of overreaction

and the implication is that ranger is villager and you are trying to gain their favor

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idk

hard very scummy game

drew is maybe towny vibes lolz

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VOTE: camelcasedsnivy

sure

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ok he is being villagery VOTE: Abnegation

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drew join for fun?

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ok time to stop trying for another 15 pages

I would push people to start trying now to develop some reads and share them. I have a lot of people marked off as unreadable/iffy because they've been present but waiting around for mech talk to be over. it's basically over. if you dont have time to read the parts with mech stuff then a good approach could be to ISO people who are not python or rauthe

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snivy does my read on you over the past page make you think anything about my alignment

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I agree kkfc is towny

I think aureal is scum but not enough to like talk about it yet

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I would also personally like to be in the topic for picking stuff if we decide it privately

I am just generally pretty good at mech and also at choosing cop peek targets, which I think the average person is very shit at

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I am caught up

I have no desire to talk about what I thought it's very confused

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ok time to stop trying for another 15 pages

I would push people to start trying now to develop some reads and share them. I have a lot of people marked off as unreadable/iffy because they've been present but waiting around for mech talk to be over. it's basically over. if you dont have time to read the parts with mech stuff then a good approach could be to ISO people who are not python or rauthe

Okay, I'll start with you

snivy - feels pretty wolf. in general their early posting was the most stiff. treatment of ranger feels like buddying ("wow you're doing readlists every post?! that's so game-advancing and towny" for something I think is fairly clearly predetermined playstyle).

if im your only confident scumread then vote me

also is this implying me and ranger are scum buddies despite you saying you think ranger is townie?

it feels weird to read the words I said and consider that confident? I mildly dislike that as a sort of overreaction

and the implication is that ranger is villager and you are trying to gain their favor

I went back and I don't really think Snivy is overreacting?

ok I read the game

dragoneater70 - originally I found them the scummiest tonally. they felt very performative/LAMIST, such as with lots of literally saying "let's do something game-advancing now" (no one says that when doing something game-advancing now). but then someone said this felt like town!dragoneater from last game. and I sort of just believe that maybe that way of writing that I found scummy is playstyle. so now I no longer want to push it and

it's a potential townread

pending me one day skimming the game in question

ranger - I think they are

lightly villagery.

their first readlists aligned a lotttt with what I was feeling in early pages.

radical rat - I like their push that rauth is too obsessed with finding the IC alternatives. like it is a just a good push. it actually

makes me feel more RR!town

than rauth!wolf; im slightly skeptical of it as making rauth wolf because it's almost too egregious (python saying "I'll policy the next person to talk about mech" and then rauth keeps talking about mech feels like something wolves might want to avoid ??)

usespython - when I was just lurking they felt like 99% obvtown on vibes. when I read through it's more

meh but still prob just town

morning tweet - gut says

slightly scummy

. I just thought her takes were mid in 150 I was not feeling them lol

Titus - if I had to force a read their vibe fits with what I understand of their town meta lol but

meh

Kyoko - if this is their first time trying the weird scum meter thing (if I didnt misunderstand) then I'd honestly give

a couple town points lmao. otherwise very meh

snivy -

feels pretty wolf.

in general their early posting was the most stiff. treatment of ranger feels like buddying ("wow you're doing readlists every post?! that's so game-advancing and towny" for something I think is fairly clearly predetermined playstyle).

abnegation - my gut says this is what

I think newer-player villagers

look like

That looks like Snivy is your most confident scumread. Everyone else but MT is shades of town, and MT is 'slightly scummy' vs Snivy's 'pretty wolf'. And then for some reason you backed down so quickly on this, just a few posts later!

ok he is being villagery VOTE: Abnegation

You had Abnegation updated to 'meh'- why her and not MT based on your own list reads?

I would also personally like to be in the topic for picking stuff if we decide it privately

I am just generally pretty good at mech and also at choosing cop peek targets, which I think the average person is very shit at

This is a small thing but if you're pretty good at mech, why did you join only in the mech discussion with one post (actually, one line of one post)?

I could go this way. VOTE: sheep

ok I was going to go away but sadly I am addicted to mafia so I will answer these

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-snivy was definitely my most confident wolfread at the time I wrote my readlist. but at the same time, he wasn't at all a COnfident wolfread. and I dont feel like it seemed from what I wrote that I was

confident

he was mafia. at that time I would have said the chance was like, maybe 30%. basically, >rand.

So, the overreaction to me is that snivy seemed to call it a confident wolfread, independently. "because im confident, why am I not voting him??" it felt wolfy because it felt like trying to shade me by grasping for something that wasn't there + strong reactions to relatively slight pressure is just a minor wolftell blah blah. I do totally get the logic that I should generally be voting my most confident wolfread tho. but I simply wasn't super compelled to join a wagon of size 0.


-drew described abgenation's main's playstyle as like, non-commitive and second-guessing. the longer I had information on who she was, and the more I thought about it, I was like yeah that seems right from what I know. I think it makes the overconfident vibe at the start of the game wolfy for her specifically. I thought what ive seen from her main is capable of being very towny and even though it is very early there is no glimpse of that so let's poke it

also she had just indicated intention to start catching up and I thought I would like to have a wagon on her while she does that. morning tweet otoh seemed like she was gonna pop in here and there every multitude of pages (very respectfully) and a vote would do almost nothing


-I did not talk much about mech discussion about nightmare redux because I agreed with the consensus conclusion that had already been reached

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It’s ok kyoko kirigirl

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VC later, prods later. (Working a holiday shift.)

This is a mod announcement Doctor Drew has been confirmed to Run The Nightmare tonight. All future proposals do not need to include Doctor Drew, and will automatically include him.

All current proposals will be amended to include Doctor Drew when I’m done with work.

There's just over a three hour gap between these posts. So we can reasonably conclude that whoever forced Drew into the nightmare was active at some point during that window.

Flea, me, DragonEater, and Ranger all posted during that window. This is an imperfect methodology, because there's no guarantee the perpetrator actually posted, but it's a place to start.

Flea, I believe about not being around much, and I don't think fae would do this spontaneously without knowing the gamestate.

I'm me, and I know I didn't do it, but if you're not me I think my questioning of the voting system made it pretty clear I didn't know what happened.

DragonEater could have, but this doesn't seem to line up with his pushes.

And then Ranger started to lightly shade Drew, just before the announcement was made.


So I'll just ask directly. Is this your doing, Ranger?

This is a wolfily pointless post imo

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Just because of how plausible lurking is

And like

“Is this your doing, ranger?”
“No”

what is the purpose

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So I'm supposed to not try to solve anything because something else could have happened, and not ever ask questions because the answer might be different than what I expect?

I acknowledge it's not an airtight case or anything, I point out the lurking possibility already, but I'm working with what I have here. And I do find it curious that you're already presuming Ranger would deny responsibility. Know something I don't?

yeah putting drew in the thing is just something scum did and is a scumclaim (if someone claims it we should flashwagon them)

and it’s simply going to be completely impossible to deduce who performed that scum action just based on the posts in thread. we know it won’t lead to anything. so it feels performative

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Idk maybe just a difference in our playstyles

I do think rat is otherwise town lol blah blah

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I think your proposal has a low chance of being completely pure and you might as well include us all

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DragonEater70
Ranger maybe I havent processed the recent stuff
Radical Rat
usesPython
Rautherdir??????????
Kyoko Kirigiri??????????????????
camelCasedSnivy?????
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8 names that I would support a pool of 7 from

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I told myself "haha bastard game so I can in and fuck around" but then it turns out this was a very legit game

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I started townreading too many ppl idk where scum is supposed to be

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Weird Dreams Mafia

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the stuff I see every time I check the thread makes me think fully reading the last 15 pages isnt worth it

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I could definitely be persuaded on Merlyn, I agree that she seemed to be trying to pocket me somewhat, but I do think we should prioritize locking in a Nightmare team before it gets too late

is there an earlier deadline for that

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{usesPython}
{Radical Rat, Abnegation, KatyKimFanclub, Rautherdir, Doctor Drew}
{Morning Tweet, camelCasedSnivy}
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{Save The Dragons}
{Flea The Magician}
{Random Nurse, WhemeStar, Aureal}
{Titus}
{Kyoko Kirigiri}
{Merlyn}
{DragonEater70}

Best I've got right now.
Kyoko Kirigiri's posts have definitely improved, and I see more signs of a potential town mindset. However, a large part of me believes she entered this debate with an agenda, and while I see the town mindset, I still lean scum overall.

Titus's catchup I initially caught at a glance and had as hard-scum, yet when reviewing it in full it was less definitive. I still lean scum on her as her takes seem slightly +scum, yet she's no slam-dunk scumread.

WhemeStar and Aureal are both lackluster in ways I think +scum, yet I see signs of town and the scum indicators are weak. Random Nurse is clearly out of their depth regardless, so the question becomes out-of-depth-town or out-of-depth-scum. I lean the latter from what they

have

given.

I agreed heavily with this post when I saw it

after reading the ranger/kyoko stuff, I thought ranger looked good and villagery and I thought kyoko looked bad. kyoko later became more villagery.

my overall feel is, I townread almost everyone who has produced meaningful content. it makes me feel ok with us taking our chances at a pure nightmare. so yeah idk my current guess is that stuff is largely town-dominated and scum just aren't getting into the game. which feels gross to say sometimes because I tend to not be good at assessing when that's the case, but my reads just line up that way, a bunch of townreads. leaves me with disappointingly boring scumreads

like let's focus in on aureal for fun. aureal has done nothing wolfy to me and I could totally see her as town. but like, I know she's physically capable of being insanely towny. the second she subbed into the last game I played with her, she immediately made posts that were like wow that's some of the most pure in-depth stuff ive read. so the fact that she hasn't done that here is like slightly >rand wolf by poe, even if that's an unfair expectation. she also apparently hasn't wolfed before which makes it feel valid to be like "she's wolf struggling to get into the game!” is my best guess rn. I dont rly support her inclusion in the current proposal altho I havent seen why abnegation townreads her

I feel like merlyn fits that “lackluster” description enough as well meh

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wow wtf ok I will make sure to read that game whenever I decide to start reading things

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Yes: Radical Rat, usesPython, sheepsaysmeep

Prob: DragonEater70, Ranger, Morning Tweet, Doctor Drew, camelCasedSnivy, Abnegation. as well as Aureal I think her response to me was gut villagery idk lol

could compromise if necessary: Save The Dragons, Kyoko Kirigirl

Not rly interested in including: Random Nurse, KatyKimFanClub, Titus, Flea The Magician, WhemeStar, Rautherdir, Merlyn

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curious why people townread Titus

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What is condemn and why whemestar

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Does that make u wolfread ranger

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What makes ranger more likely scum (if u think that’s the case) from everyone else on ur wagon who isn’t rly explaining? How are u gonna differentiate the scum from the town there who definitely exist

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What makes ranger more likely scum (if u think that’s the case) from everyone else on ur wagon who isn’t rly explaining? How are u gonna differentiate the scum from the town there who definitely exist

Busy work here.

Come on now.

Tell me you are defending Ranger without defending Ranger.

im very skeptical of merlyns self defense because of the way it seems to vaguely attack her entire wagon at once which is scummy

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I do actually townread ranger but it was 99% interest in sorting merlyn there

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VOTE: whemestar

I will be pretty inactive for a few days sorry gang

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I am skeptical of Titus and think the slot is very remarkably rand at best but it is what it is

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this is a post

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I don't think switching is a good idea yet. If we can get a verbal commitment on it from more than the seven we already have, I'll move then.

But as it is now, splitting the vote effectively just means scum can take their pick last second.

I think this person is insanely villagery and will probably just sheep them for as long as im kinda busy

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I potentially think rauthedir is scummy, I think the mech talk covering up for otherwise straight up struggling to produce solving is just kinda more likely wolf

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I dislike the difference of swapping ranger for STD; for like, aureal, dragon, camel, tweet, could all have felt better to me. but wtevs I will do literally whatever usespython says and just hope they are not a wolf probably

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I am roughly ready to hammer stuff whenever u are tho

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I think merlyn has some stuff about her wagon that hs to be resolved. particularly the "I'd like to be limmed" even if I felt iffy before

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I still do think wheme is legit scummy tho. prob more than most people do. not just a fun dandy counterwagon

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That is something I had been thinking about Titus too so I am going to fully hardlock you as town again good chat

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yeah same

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HURT: whatever uses python is voting

VOTE: merlyn

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I think camelcasedssnivy is like very very strongly newbtown for me

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I only had the time to reallyyyy roughly skim

aureal felt like she entered what I know of her towngame

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im trying the playstyle of wise person who just commentates nuggets of wisdom

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I found the way drew was really confidently like the wheme push is such bullshit to be slightlyyy scummy

like im not super confident on this but. I think at worst the wheme push could seem to someone like this is too random (but this is a game that's overall relatively towny). I think the "this is so bad" was unfair and weirdly extreme

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At this rate isn't it looking like we'll just lim Wheme/Merlyn and IC the other if they flip green? Should we just lim the person that's less useful with a BP IC invention?

I think this is a bad usage and should be used on people in the middle of the pack, not in limpool but hard to exit poe

more detail should probably be left to the group thingy

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Wtf is this

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Prior to reading the case I much much prefer the previous wagons to snivy

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This feels more like town CSF vibes

(Mainly just skimming and not reading deep at all blah blah)

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kyoko kirigirl why do you find me scummy

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ok I spent a minute skimming your case. I sorta maintain that snivy just seems to me like newb town. the things you described were just normal flaws in my play when I was a newby town, such that I think tone and stuff legit takes precedence. I think for such players, like, as scum they might try to seem more mellow and reasonable, whereas as town they like aggressively abrasively state confident reads is more the vibe.

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I dunno I think wheme is scummy because he feels like he's struggling to produce good content. like it's not just

lurking

it's that when he's actually here, which is an ok amount of time, I dont really buy the reads-related stuff he gets out into the thread it feels relatively more shallow and flaily

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and I vaguely believe that that's scummy for him metawise based on some games ive skimmed before but I wouldnt claim to know the meta well enough to push that

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@ camel cased snivy how experienced are you

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oh right I remember you talking about chat mafia making him good at this vibe

yeah fair enough I'll try to read him more thoroughly

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ehhh seems fair

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I guess ur kinda right that I dont care a lot

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vibe-wise I would say KKFC is town here. I modded his first game onsite (python linked earlier) where he was a mafia and pretty hesitant and always asking wolf chat for feedback/advice. his boldness here engaging with people would be like, a remarkable difference and is prob just villa

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it probably would have been better to say that after conversations around him rather than in the middle of those conversations

but my investment isnt enough to time it right

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VOTE: whemestar

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sorry for spamming 4 posts in a row but it's always really unsatisfying to me to just leave a pagebottom

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why

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ehh ok

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I ont really agree with that thought

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I somehow did not process that this reached page 84 lol this must end

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God damnit this looks like shit I have to read

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At a glance aureal appears to be spitting facts

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Who do u want to lim then whemestar if not ranger

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why do you townread whemestar

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I sort of believe that

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not a good reason tho sorry

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wow connected components

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graphs tend to be slightly +scum

you're welcome Weird Dreams Mafia Redux for the insight

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Last night, I had a dream that Radical Rat had a role that gave them access to a PT!

Titus died last night. She was a

Sunlight Actress (Mafia JOAT)

.

Spoiler: Titus

Sunlight Actress

Strange Dreams Mafia Redux

I once had a dream that there was a renowned actress who only could put on her performance in the daylight. Anyone who watched it would be mesmerized by it, and she kept using that to her advantage. I always wondered why she would do it.

Welcome

Titus

! You are a

Sunlight Actress (Mafia JOAT)

, and aligned with

The Horrible Dreams

.

Innate Abilities:

~

Jack of all Trades

: You have access to several limited-shot abilities, they are listed below.
~

Hypnotist (2-Shot)

: Twice per game, you may send a player feedback from any action, provided it does not contain a name. For example, you may give a player feedback that nobody visited their target last night, but you may not give them feedback that they saw their target visited [name] last night.
~

Day Traitor Cop (1-Shot)

: Once per game, during the day, you may learn if a player is a Traitor. Feedback from this action will be given to you at the start of the night.
~

Secret Voter (1-Shot)

: Once per game, during the day, you may secretly place an additional vote on another player by PMing the mod. This vote cannot be changed once placed, and will not work in ELO situations. This vote shows up as "Korina" on VCs.
~

Strongwilled Announcing Jailkeeper (2-Shot)

: Twice per game, you may jailkeep another player, protecting them from all kills tonight, and roleblocking them. This action cannot be redirected, nor roleblocked. Players will be told a Strongwilled Jailkeeper targeted them last night as well.

Factional Information

:
~ [REDACTED]

Victory Condition

:
~ You win if all threats to

The Horrible Dreams

are dead and your faction is at least half the living players, or if this situation is impossible to prevent.

I want so much towncred from this

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All 3 flips were correct reads from me it sort of compensates for the wheme thing oops

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Bruhhh shit shot

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Could’ve asked about it in nightmare and I coulda towncased her

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Ok fair enough

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VOTE: std

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No I was just suspicious of her and want recognition

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I soured snivy town again

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soulread*

I think as scum he would be self conscious of the rolefishing thing lmao

wifom but like I think it's too easy

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I think STD and ircher are good wagons today

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something I brought up in nightmare pt:

viewtopic.php?sid=&f=83&t=91156&user_select%5B%5D=37068

this is my completed experience with random nurse. he was a town sub. ridiculously aggressive and immediately tunneling someone and begging for votes on them

idk

just so different here even tho the circumstances are diff

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STD is like, I just dont really like his wheme read. even tho it was right

like my first game with STD I townread him for being waffly and constantly unconfident and stuff lol

and now he's weirdly confidently like wheme is simply town.

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sheep
aureal
abnegation
python
tweet
kkfc
radical rat

this is like my working townlist I guess + maybe snivy

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hm ok

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idrk how to read him then

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Yeah, stuff like this is him being pretty confident about his read. And more instances later on in the game. I definitely know what you mean about being waffly though, I've seen that too. Sometimes you've got reads, sometimes you don't. *shrug*

I was in that game lol and tbh I think cephrir is definitely an exception

but I'll like still sorta take ur word for it I think

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VC 1.25

WhemeStar (5):

Aureal, Ranger, Abnegation, Rautherdir, Radical Rat

camelCasedSnivy (3):

Cat Scratch Fever, usesPython, Save The Dragons

Cat Scratch Fever (3):

sheepsaysmeep, Morning Tweet, Doctor Drew

Rauthedir (2):

Titus, DragonEater70, camelCasedSnivy

Ranger (2):

Kyoko Kirigiri, WhemeStar

KatyKimFanClub (1):

Abnegation (0):

DragonEater70 (0):

Kyoko Kirigiri (0):

Aureal (0):

Doctor Drew (0):

sheepsaysmeep (0):

Random Nurse (0):

usesPython (0):

Save the Dragons (0):

Radical Rat (0):

Morning Tweet (0):

Titus (0):

Flea the Magician (0):

Not Voting (4):

Flea the Magician, Random Nurse, Rautherdir, KatyKimFanClub

With

19

known votes, it takes

10

of them to achieve a majority.

Deadline is in:

Deadline is suspended at 3 days, 10 hours until a replacement for Merlyn is found.

Moderator Notes:

- Ranger is V/LA every Sunday/Monday for July.
- Kyoko Kirigiri is V/LA every Sunday thru Tuesday.
- Replacing Random Nurse

Nightmare

Ranger's proposal: [

Doctor Drew

, Radical Rat, usesPython, Abnegation, sheepsaysmeep, Ranger, Titus] (7, E-3!):

Ranger, Radical Rat, Save The Dragons, usesPython, sheepsaysmeep, Abnegation, camelCasedSnivy

Rautherdir, formerly usesPython's proposal: [

Doctor Drew

, Ranger, usesPython, Abnegation, KatyKimFanclub, Rautherdir, Radical Rat, sheepsaysmeep, Morning Tweet, camelCasedSnivy, Titus (3):

Rautherdir, KatyKimFanClub, Morning Tweet

Kyoko Kirigiri's proposal: [

Doctor Drew

, usesPython, Abnegation, Aureal, camelCasedSnivy, Save the Dragons, Radical Rat] (2):

Kyoko Kirigiri, Aureal

Random Nurse's proposal: [

Doctor Drew

, anger, Radical Rat, usesPython, Titus, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub] (1):

Random Nurse

DragonEater70's proposal: [

Doctor Drew

, DragonEater70, usesPython, Abnegation, Aureal, Titus] (1):

DragonEater70

Merlyn's proposal: [

Doctor Drew

, Radical Rat, usesPython, Rautherdir, Aureal, Abnegation, Merlyn] (1):

Merlyn

Morning Tweet's proposal: [

Doctor Drew

, usesPython, Ranger, Titus, Abnegation, Aureal, Rautherdir] (1):

Morning Tweet

With

19

known votes, it takes

10

of them to achieve a majority.

Doctor Drew is confirmed.

Spoiler: Pronouns

Pronoun Key

Later

Spoiler: Votes I'm Mentioning For Some Reason (EMPTY)

Empty

I think CSF's wall case arguing that ccs has static reads is supported by the SR on bianco or whoever replaced them. That slot would always be sred. That's not usually a town thought process.

VOTE: ccs

this probably looks good for ccs

[sheepsaysmeep]

@mod what would happen hypothetically if a player was receiving a bp mason invention from night mare and get vanalized?

Is there a mechanical way to remove/disable inventions as they are handed out?

You should probably just straight up be fullclaiming here if you're town. Also it wouldn't matter since the invention got handed out at the start of the day and any vanillarizing action would happen during the night

I am a watcher variant. I can see what type of actions target me and to watch another slot normally. only on the first night I can do both.

I watched ranger cause I was thinking its a good target regardless of alignment and I saw Cat Scratch Fever visiting ranger. (and ofc ffs that slot is dead and cant confirm it right now) I also saw misc and protective actions visiting me.

Why did this make u say u thought scum visited y

[sheepsaysmeep]

VOTE: kirigirl

[sheepsaysmeep]

Maj maj maj maj

[sheepsaysmeep]

VOTE: kirigirl

vote for a nightmare too

plurality anyways yeah lemme see

[sheepsaysmeep]

man ...

and to have this game ruining my no mislim record for this stupid mech crap within it

VOTE: kyoko

good luck town

hey if ur somehow town im sorry just blame "it was bastard game lolz"

[sheepsaysmeep]

HURT: snivy, python, ranger, sheep, abnegation, rat, rauth

Would you mind tagging out with KKFC actually? Nothing personal, it's just that you were one of the ones on Kirigiri's proposal we don't already know is Town, so safety first.

HURT: KatyKimFanClub, usesPython, Ranger, sheepsaysmeep, Abnegation, Radical Rat, Rautherdir

whatever sure

HURT: radical's proposal

I personally wouldve put aureal over rauthe but like I think rauth is most likely town anyway ig

[sheepsaysmeep]

tbh I have literally no clue how to play against cult

[sheepsaysmeep]

like finding them seems to some degree almost entirely guessing to me

like how finding a serial killer is much harder than finding mafia

[sheepsaysmeep]

I did this in nightmare btw but I hardclaim that I can communicate outside of thread

[sheepsaysmeep]

the "4 hours of work first" reveal was very anticlimactic

[sheepsaysmeep]

how are we only at 13 already lol thats kinda scary

[sheepsaysmeep]

I believe u


VOTE: std

[sheepsaysmeep]

I read the past couple pages and everyones role is so much stronger and more interesting than mine bruh

[sheepsaysmeep]

Does Traitor show up as town under investigations?

should be scum

[sheepsaysmeep]

Do we think Snivy and StD are scum together? Cause if not that clears StD I think

I dont think snivy is scum and also I dont think they would claim this if they were together

I believe snivy really received that result

[sheepsaysmeep]

We didn’t want kkfc target someone new besides me because there apparently might’ve still been a living traffic analyst and getting added to neighborhood means u come up false positive

[sheepsaysmeep]

Which makes TA useless

[sheepsaysmeep]

I'd like to vouch that being in neighborhood with kkfc made me go from idk about him to thinking he's very town

this is a very uninformed player

when he was scum he felt much more calculated and self-conscious

[sheepsaysmeep]

Claim?

messenger

[sheepsaysmeep]

I have not successfully sent any because of kkfc role but I also told him I dont care because it seems useless

[sheepsaysmeep]

if there were scum I want them to believe theres the possibility im important and could merit a potential roleblock or nightkill lol

[sheepsaysmeep]

if im fully only a mailman then "had a mailman component" is not actually untrue tbh

[sheepsaysmeep]

Oh damn I have 150 posts to catch up on I think?

rookie numbers

[sheepsaysmeep]

Unless Sheep is cult leader, he is actually one of the few people I can confidently say is not culted.

I think u should be able to vouch that I volunteered and supported myself to be aliened that second night which personally I think basically excludes me from being any scum role whether mafia or cult leader

[sheepsaysmeep]

VOTE: ircher

[sheepsaysmeep]

I found rauth's claim scummy but he has the ability to like, if he kills someone who was scummy I'd consider him to suddenly be very town

[sheepsaysmeep]

at the same time though I dont think he should necessarily actually use the kill tonight

I think it should be left ambiguous in case of redirection or shit

[sheepsaysmeep]

I think a point against Katy being cultist is that he was willing to target me again last night after I suggested it; I dont rly see a mechanism that benefits from doing that lol

[sheepsaysmeep]

if we're going in 7p direction I think I should be included

[sheepsaysmeep]

if we're going in 7p direction I think I should be included

I am the most villagery villager to ever villager

[sheepsaysmeep]

I think I see it but I am rly not very tuned into this game so im uncertain lol

[sheepsaysmeep]

lmfao

[sheepsaysmeep]

I'll play u in chess to clear myself

[sheepsaysmeep]

anything interesting happen that ive missed

is there like a circling summary post of mechanical stuff or something

[sheepsaysmeep]

wild

[sheepsaysmeep]

if nurse/ircher slot is mafia I claim another round of non-w/w cred for something like multiple day phases ago

[sheepsaysmeep]

Thanks for hosting! Very interesting