DEFCON 6.0 - GAME OVER!

[Gamma Emerald]

Are you fuckers shitting me? I get my first game with Marci in probably over a year and you pull this?

[Gamma Emerald]

I was gonna tell y’all how I will be operating but atp that’s gonna be left a surprise

[Gamma Emerald]

Nuke: T3

[Gamma Emerald]

It just emotional
Altho I also don’t get why T3 thinks you’re scum enough to nuke you here

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually I think I found empirical scum

[Gamma Emerald]

It just emotional
Altho I also don’t get why T3 thinks you’re scum enough to nuke you here

What about Roden?

T3 is the one who said he scumread Marci, roden’s I am pretty sure was full random
I will assume T3 meant what he said until he specifies otherwise

[Gamma Emerald]

Nuke: Marci

Nuke: Marci

This is actually just scum

These are not the same.

[Gamma Emerald]

I have a question: in prior runs, what has the ratio of finished to cancelled firings been? I wanna calculate how fast this game will likely go.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also I will say I think the last thing we should invest in is speed

[Gamma Emerald]

Bring what up
And wrt instant gratification, I guess I can accommodate some speed upgrades but at least give the target a chance to give final thoughts?

[Gamma Emerald]

Are you fuckers shitting me? I get my first game with Marci in probably over a year and you pull this?

There’s only like a 51% chance Marci died from 2 nukes

Bad response

[Gamma Emerald]

Because I am hyped up? Why shouldn’t it be high???

[Gamma Emerald]

okay ill be honest i researched speed because i don't wanna wait 48 hours to see if im right or not or see if my nuke went off

i can sit on 24 though for now that's fine

I didn’t realize you couldn’t switch once it was sent so I’m researching speed this round (sent mine before realizing the value of the delay), but yeah 24h is absolutely fine imo

[Gamma Emerald]

My nuke only will only be launched at the certainly wicked, for I have every confidence that it will succeed in destroying its target.

What?

[Gamma Emerald]

Are you fuckers shitting me? I get my first game with Marci in probably over a year and you pull this?

The nukes could still be retracted. Make your case.

My case at that point was just “I want to play with Marci, back off”

[Gamma Emerald]

because I'm not sure if I can double upgrade the same stat
probably not, but it's not explicit that I see

You cannot
You can also the mod questions

[Gamma Emerald]

My nuke only will only be launched at the certainly wicked, for I have every confidence that it will succeed in destroying its target.

What?

My only fingers only will only make only typos only sometimes only.

I actually didn’t notice that
I was just confused at you saying your attack would strike true?

[Gamma Emerald]

Because I am hyped up? Why shouldn’t it be high???

i am trying to divine whether your enthusiasm comes from rolling a town or the deep moral defect of rolling scum

Oh I missed this
I actually would have more reason to be hype if I rolled scum, haven’t rolled it in a while

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel it probably doesn't translate since the other games had roles to claim

tmi??

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah I did ask Pooky, but hadn't received a response yet.

I actually didn’t notice that
I was just confused at you saying your attack would strike true?

Oh then nevermind the snark. My attack will strike true because I only produce the best nuclear weapons, so it's unthinkable that I could launch a dud.

Understandable, I wish you the best, comrade.

[Gamma Emerald]

[WEEK ONE, DEFCON 1 - Game Event]

...

[NORAD SYSTEM] ALERT. ALERT. MULTIPLE NUCLEAR LAUNCHES DETECTED.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Attempting to locate launch site...

[NORAD SYSTEM] Missile tracked to facility XR-132, currently commanded by

Gamma Emerald

[NORAD SYSTEM] Analyzing flight trajectory…
[NORAD SYSTEM] Missile is currently targeting coordinates registered to

T3

.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Estimating time until impact...
[NORAD SYSTEM] Warhead will detonate on 9-29-23 - 1023 Hours.

[NORAD SYSTEM] Missile tracked to facility XR-834, currently commanded by

Chell

[NORAD SYSTEM] Analyzing flight trajectory…
[NORAD SYSTEM] Missile is currently targeting coordinates registered to

Unowen

.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Estimating time until impact...
[NORAD SYSTEM] Warhead will detonate on 9-29-23 - 1333 Hours.

Oh I didn’t realize research took effect immediately

[Gamma Emerald]

I thought Skygazer accidentally outed herself as having an extra advantage with that faster nuke, I was wrong

[Gamma Emerald]

Wait so whay comnow are best i wanna see cakez die

Lethality increases your odds of a successful attack
Speed reduces the time between firing and impact
MIRV allows you to target multiple players in a single launch action but you may have worsened lethality
Production I believe affects how many launches you can execute a week

MIRV and Production seems similar but MIRV critically does not let you go after the same person twice, all bonus missiles from MIRV must go towards different targets. With Production I think you can use multiple launch actions on the same player?

[Gamma Emerald]

I thought Skygazer accidentally outed herself as having an extra advantage with that faster nuke, I was wrong

can u do my english essay for me bestie

why lol

[Gamma Emerald]

I can give tips but I’m not gonna write a whole thing
What’s it about?

[Gamma Emerald]

I do not know how to help with that, sorry

[Gamma Emerald]

That’s valid tbf

[Gamma Emerald]

The speed counterpoint, ftr

[Gamma Emerald]

...does a player's death abort their nukes? that's not how any prior defcon game has worked

I thought it did but I misread

[Gamma Emerald]

It just emotional
Altho I also don’t get why T3 thinks you’re scum enough to nuke you here

T3 literally said "random nuking stage" right before nuking. how can u not read one page

FWIW my nuke was not random. I scumread marci a bit and wanted to see her reaction.

i don't believe u had a scumread

That is certain an opinion you can have
Are you calling T3 a scumbutt liar or just being contrarian?

[Gamma Emerald]

That is certain an opinion you can have
Are you calling T3 a scumbutt liar or just being contrarian?

this is a meme game. if i wanted to scumhunt i would join a different game.

Okay noted

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m dropping my thoughts on how best to play this setup but

i’m still trying to get decent townreads

since it’s early game so like what are you suggesting i should do differently here.

Well there’s your problem

[Gamma Emerald]

wouldn't it be funny if we are scum together, i asked u to nuke me. u nuke me and u get townread forever for it.
lets do that plan

[Gamma Emerald]

I do think gamma is scum though, cause my whole thing with Chell/UNO, gamma was definitely around... didn't say anything, and after the fact, gamma had no comment on that, and gamma seems to be ignoring me completely, like, could just be cause t's me, but I feel like it's hard to ignore a lot of posting coming from someone that just entered

Nuke: Gamma

I am watching it, I don’t see much reason to inject myself into the conversation. I’ve been liking Chell’s posting so far though.

[Gamma Emerald]

As for ignoring you Andante, I am pretty sure my read rate on you is a dumpster fire so it’s probably better for me to just not
This is a gun game, imho having full reads is not important at all

[Gamma Emerald]

In fact I will not post a single read list and will probably not even bother to explain my reads much at all. Not like people even manage to parse it even when I do

[Gamma Emerald]

As for ignoring you Andante, I am pretty sure my read rate on you is a dumpster fire so it’s probably better for me to just not
This is a gun game, imho having full reads is not important at all

yeah but we can still talk!! I came into this game just messing around lol

Yeah I’m down to gab, what’s up?
Btw unless you invest in Production sufficiently (I think) you only get one nuke a week and you don’t get it back by cancelling

[Gamma Emerald]

Meuh trying to psychoanalyze posts is kinda not what I expect from her?

[Gamma Emerald]

Meuh trying to psychoanalyze posts is kinda not what I expect from her?

Gamma's confusion at my playstyle shows a discomfort with the new or the unknown. No welcoming for the new Meuh, no open arms, no pleasant surprise, only confusion, that deep down comes from a place of fear. Perhaps not the fear of a townie, but of a mafia member, pointing fingers at those comfortable in their own skin, hoping not to be cornered?

Yeah you’re over-analyzing, I’m just probing to determine if I just missed some character development. You realize I’ve spent half a year away from the site, right?

[Gamma Emerald]

the way meuh responds to posts is actually entertaining me. I hope she never stops with these kinds of posts

Yeah I have zero problem with it, I just wanted to know whether it was playstyle change or game-specific. I think the latter is implied by Meuh’s response.

[Gamma Emerald]

that's two nukes on skygazer i think

would prefer if they were both aborted

Why? It's unlikely either hit.

On their own sure. Combined it’s more likely at least one hits than both miss.

[Gamma Emerald]

Are you fuckers shitting me? I get my first game with Marci in probably over a year and you pull this?

The nukes could still be retracted. Make your case.

My case at that point was just “I want to play with Marci, back off”

Do you think marcistar is town? If so, you still have a chance to save them from the nukes.

mmm I kinda got a scumping from a post but I also think Cephrir’s read might be one I should consider when reading her?

@Cephrir

I think you read our hydra correctly in LOST, was that based on a particular head’s posting?

[Gamma Emerald]

Nuke: Gamma

ABORT THE MISSION

No!! Why did you abort?!?!?!

Why is that a problem for you?

[Gamma Emerald]

Like you seem legitimately distraught Ircher, WTAF?

[Gamma Emerald]

Do not like Ircher here, someone nuke him pls

[Gamma Emerald]

Ircher is clearly town lol

Hard-disagree.

[Gamma Emerald]

Nuke: Gamma

ABORT THE MISSION

No!! Why did you abort?!?!?!

Why is that a problem for you?

It's nothing personal or specific to you. I just think the nukes should stay the course for maximum entertainment value.

Scummy thought process

[Gamma Emerald]

Ircher is clearly town lol

Hard-disagree.

Okay then who is clearly town?

Idk about clearly town but I’ve liked Chell, Klick, and Cephrir thus far

[Gamma Emerald]

Ircher is clearly town lol

Hard-disagree.

I dunno, I kinda see them as town as well.

But then again they are doing the Lord's work and trying to solve the 'I always scum read sky,' problem.....so with them possibly gone, less brainpower I have to waste there!

Sorry Sky lol.

Pre Edit: only one exclamation point....Adante scum claim

The issue I have is it seems like Ircher wanted Andante to take me out. I will believe him that it wasn’t an issue he had with me, but he was still too emphatic about wanting the nuke to resolve, it feels agenda-driven.

Ftr I think an Ircher scumflip looks good for Andante, since I think scum would be more interested in seeing town-on-town violence

[Gamma Emerald]

Ircher is clearly town lol

Hard-disagree.

Okay then who is clearly town?

Idk about clearly town but I’ve liked Chell, Klick, and Cephrir thus far

What have they done that is towny?

I’m not answering unless you do something to indicate you’re actually going to be receptive to my answer.

[Gamma Emerald]

It just emotional
Altho I also don’t get why T3 thinks you’re scum enough to nuke you here

I moderately disliked Marci’s tone around the nukes and her reaction to people using random nukes. It seemed like she was scared scum, perhaps.

What even was my reaction lolol

What do people make of this post btw?

[Gamma Emerald]

I think scum would be more interested in seeing town-on-town violence

Great conclusion you have reached!!

Is this sincere?

[Gamma Emerald]

I think scum would be more interested in seeing town-on-town violence

Great conclusion you have reached!!

Is this sincere?

Of course

Thank you, I think pound-for-pound you are the sincere type but it’s really easy to take avid sincerity for sarcasm when looking at text.

[Gamma Emerald]

It just emotional
Altho I also don’t get why T3 thinks you’re scum enough to nuke you here

I moderately disliked Marci’s tone around the nukes and her reaction to people using random nukes. It seemed like she was scared scum, perhaps.

What even was my reaction lolol

What do people make of this post btw?

Not much. Both Marci’s would be interested.
I think.

aight, this seems like a reputable take

[Gamma Emerald]

Nuke: T3

Abort launch

I think I feel good about T3 so I’m gonna stop the firing now
Would still like if he could call off the strike on Marci, yeah I don’t have a sure feeling she’s town but ffs I think I’m allowed to call in this favor given I’ve seen other players abjectly refuse to go after certain players at all regardless of the game situation

[Gamma Emerald]

i was actually wondering if our production resets at a given period like say 6 days and 23 hours from pooky starting the game, and i send a nuke, does that mean i get another nuke in an hour?

gonna dm the mod, always love sliding in that bears dms

The wording I’ve seen on the matter suggests everyone restocks at the same time

[Gamma Emerald]

i feel like ive become an old man yelling at these kids
past me probably would have nuked by now and aborted already

We could be the two old man muppets in the balcony yelling at all these kids

*Shakes fist*

That’s not what Statler and Waldorf do, they heckle the other Muppets that are on-stage

[Gamma Emerald]

drew fooled me twice awhile ago.
He goes in the null zone until he nukes Russia and China for me.

I remember you saying you would never trust me again lol.

But let's have some fun, control my nuke, and I am not like these kids, my nuke can go all night before I abort(if I do at all).

Pre Edit: Yes, and you are all the other muppets(but thanks for the names, I couldn't remember lol)

I have/had a hydra with NM named after them so it’s stuck in my brain

[Gamma Emerald]

alright then doctor drew u can be a temporary member of united alliance of states against these youngin states.

I am japan
u can be taiwan because #1
cephrir can be Saudi Arabia

What country am I…?

[Gamma Emerald]

What country am I…?

Portugal

I will accept this only because it kinda fits my avatar

[Gamma Emerald]

ya upon review i'm gonna not abort

:/

[Gamma Emerald]

Skygazer stocks are declining
Roden stocks looking hopeful?

[Gamma Emerald]

Where's andres? waiting for 1000 posts to enter?

[Gamma Emerald]

the only winning move is not to play...

that made me laugh

War Games is a good movie

[Gamma Emerald]

Like bro what those are super normal and in fact contain solving idgi

Nah they are angling to get me to nuke either T3 or Andante instead of doing the obvious retaliation attack.

Why do you think it’s targeted at you specifically?

[Gamma Emerald]

Hmm idk about norwee i think i need more time there first.

Anyways its confirmed i know the scumteam (im a very good player) its doctor, bell, gob, ircher, t3 and penguin

Im so op right guys?

Why Bell/T3/Penguin?

[Gamma Emerald]

anyway i think she sounds very at ease and i think that's difficult for her as scum

As a 2-time hydra partner of Marci I can kinda back this, I think she’s just a generally nervous player in general but I think it’s exacerbated by rolling scum

[Gamma Emerald]

I like Bell, NoreweiganBoy, Marcistar and SirCakez. Think they've all been progressing the game and seem levelheaded, except for Marcistar. She hasn't been progressing the game much but I liked their tone and I

don't think the way she's been nuked by other players makes sense if they're mafia.

I also like Gamma Emerald I think they were the person to drive the game out of random nuking/voting.

can you explain the bolded bit? It feels like you’re basing a point of your Marci read on what non-Marci players have done

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh my bad I misread

I am nuking Skygazer cause I didnt like their reponse to Rodent's nuke on Marci by nuking Rodent

this seems retroactive

It's not, that is what was in my notes originally. I just forgot my original read and made up another one on the spot later.

Sounds like you’re simultaneously confirming and denying what skygazer said?

[Gamma Emerald]

*shrug*

[Gamma Emerald]

@unowen

abort your nuke or eat mine. the choice is yours

pffft
I eat nukes for breakfast

Why do you think Chell is town?

And?

[Gamma Emerald]

if i were to nuke someone rn itd probably be gob but i'm not sure if im scumreading him or just annoyed

I’ve had concerns on gob but I have been trying to get a better picture by interacting directly

[Gamma Emerald]

Small PSA: if you launch a MIRV you cannot cancel only one of the target launches. If you cancel one you cancel all.

[Gamma Emerald]

Ircher is clearly town lol

Hard-disagree.

Okay then who is clearly town?

Idk about clearly town but I’ve liked Chell, Klick, and Cephrir thus far

What have they done that is towny?

I have elected to answer this
Chell I think is showing a sort of genuine inquisitiveness
Klick I kinda believe would be doing more as scum. I like the off-the-cuff reads as well
Cephrir feels pretty okay but he is a player that is more readable later on I would say. I think he’s got a bit of a straight-shooter thing going on that I like

[Gamma Emerald]

No
I just decided that based on recent interactions it might actually be worth my time
I also just said I’d been skeptical of you, tf got you thinking I’m trying to pocket you?

[Gamma Emerald]

No
I just decided that based on recent interactions it might actually be worth my time
I also just said I’d been skeptical of you, tf got you thinking I’m trying to pocket you?

The whole delayed answer to my question. It was like you were withholding it until you deemed me towny enough and then answered it. I mean why else would you randomly tell me your TLs 2 days later.

I thought you were asking filler questions you didn’t really care about the answers to in order to buffer my reads so you didn’t have to engage with them as much, more recent interactions have changed that

[Gamma Emerald]

Sir, it has been one day.

Are you serious? I could've sworn its been at least 2 days.

No
I just decided that based on recent interactions it might actually be worth my time
I also just said I’d been skeptical of you, tf got you thinking I’m trying to pocket you?

The whole delayed answer to my question. It was like you were withholding it until you deemed me towny enough and then answered it. I mean why else would you randomly tell me your TLs 2 days later.

I thought you were asking filler questions you didn’t really care about the answers to in order to buffer my reads so you didn’t have to engage with them as much, more recent interactions have changed that

I asked that question cause I had them as very very light TLs and was gonna sheep your reads.

Ah, okay.

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean IRL days, not game days.

Ftr the game itself have been open for like 36 hours

[Gamma Emerald]

Can we please cut down the quote pyramids @gob/T3

[Gamma Emerald]

is anyone keeping track of those who still have a nuke right now

I had considered doing this

[Gamma Emerald]

cephrir is town. I have a good vibe read checks on him in my last 5 games with him i think.
I think im 4/5 right.

cephrir can correct my record if im way off

StD needs to post more before i weigh in on him

You realize that this is about average in terms of random chance right

im not doing math in this game.
i might be an accountant but excel does my math for me.

Mood
I will occasionally do by-hand math for sales tax calculations but there honestly isn’t that much math I have to do when bookkeeping

[Gamma Emerald]

You have a 60% chance of dying. Please reflect.

Isn't it 51%

Correct

[Gamma Emerald]

Conspiracy take:
Skygazer was going to kill scum!roden
So therefore teammates ircher and gob both go to kill skygazer with nukes to prevent sky from looking town upon successful killing of Roden.

The conspiracy is all there.
All the pieces coming together

Team: Gob, Ircher, Roden, Andante and one more.

That’s a waste of nukes I would think

[Gamma Emerald]

gth I would say Drew is town currently
I don’t think he’s been particularly suspect and last game with him, I did sus him out as scum-aligned

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, tangent, I do think Drew is probably one of my favorite players here

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, tangent, I do think Drew is probably one of my favorite players here

i think doctor wanting to give fire control of their nuke is scummy because it means doctor doesnt have to make their own decisions and doesnt have to take credit for it if it fucks up on them.

I said one of, you’re still cool too

[Gamma Emerald]

uhhhh wtf

So after I say Drew is town Fire and Gamma both jump and say they're town too.

Lol

Ftr I did have to check a game to see what alignment he was and what my read on him was

[Gamma Emerald]

what does ftr mean

For the record

[Gamma Emerald]

[Gamma Emerald]

Mine!

[Gamma Emerald]

Conspiracy take:
Skygazer was going to kill scum!roden
So therefore teammates ircher and gob both go to kill skygazer with nukes to prevent sky from looking town upon successful killing of Roden.

The conspiracy is all there.
All the pieces coming together

Team: Gob, Ircher, Roden, Andante and one more.

Again, this is nonsense, using two nukes on the same player is excessive, they would stagger nukes so if one succeeds there’s no waste

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m a bit hesitant to fully scumread Drew just because the game has only been going on for what, 40 hours? The absence of Drew’s snark could indicate that he is struggling to get into the game and/or is busy. However, the main issue I have with this is that when presented with the opportunity to actually get into the game, he chooses not to. As I said before, when I asked him about Andante he tried to make it seem like he was following the game and paying attention even though he clearly wasn’t. He felt the need to fake content.

drew has made no bones about not being in the game and coasting right now so i have no idea wtf ur fucking talking about

This was in 507, he hadn’t talked about being busy at that point

Your point being?

[Gamma Emerald]

Again, this is nonsense, using two nukes on the same player is excessive, they would stagger nukes so if one succeeds there’s no waste

i literally do not care about your opinion on this.

It’s not an opinion, it’s fact

[Gamma Emerald]

so you didnt actually believe it?

no

Did you at least think Ircher was town or was it a complete ruse

[Gamma Emerald]

so you didnt actually believe it?

no

Did you at least think Ircher was town or was it a complete ruse

I just did that to see if anyone would either come out and agree with me on Ircher, push back against me, or rescind their vote on Ircher

That doesn’t really answer my question though

[Gamma Emerald]

All else fails she can tell you in the dead chat

[Gamma Emerald]

Or if it fails there would have been much ado about nothing?

[Gamma Emerald]

Or if it fails there would have been much ado about nothing?

Meh, probably is what happens

Was joke

[Gamma Emerald]

I barely even scumread gob tbh, I definitely have stronger suspicions
Although I’m guessing there is more to Klick’s choice

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually gob isn’t even a full on suspect for me rn

[Gamma Emerald]

@fb Don’t do it when you’re town then (for legal reasons, this is a joke)

[Gamma Emerald]

me and pooky hydraed once and we had a competition to see who could get the most scumreads for our slot and everyone townread me and scumread him. I was very upset

I remember that game, I quit because I was pissed at NK15 jerking the game around to satisfy his ego and try to get the push he wanted to happen

[Gamma Emerald]

Firebringer is spinal tap scum

[Gamma Emerald]

My memory of Gamma's scum game is that she specifically aims to present this way as scum

Is this based on something I’ve said or your own logic? I have played the know-it-all game as both alignments. And I wouldn’t call it a core tenet of my scumplay.

[Gamma Emerald]

cakez, people were breaking site rules on pages 2 - 49
u better go back and read those pages

tldr

We were all talking about an ongoing game :trollface:

Peak comedy

[Gamma Emerald]

Quebec City, Canada

In the bustling kingdom of Nova Quebec, Queen Marci was known for her intelligence and a thirst for knowledge as vast as her realm. One fateful evening, she found herself immersed in a perplexing mathematical problem, determined to solve it for her royal education.

Summoning her loyal servants, she beseeched their assistance, her eyes focused on her homework while ignoring the frantic warnings of an impending nuclear missile threat. Her servant, James, nervously informed her of the grave danger.

"Your Majesty," he stammered, "we have urgent reports of nuclear missiles heading toward our kingdom! We must take cover immediately!"

Queen Marci barely glanced up from her books, her brow furrowing in concentration. "Not now, James, I'm on the verge of a breakthrough with this essay. Fetch me some tea while I work."

The bewildered servants exchanged worried glances, torn between their loyalty to their beloved queen and the impending catastrophe. They rushed to prepare tea while keeping a vigilant eye on the ticking clock.

As Queen Marci delved deeper into her homework, the world outside trembled with fear. Yet, the queen remained oblivious, lost in her studies. It was only when the ground rumbled with the missile impact that she finally looked up.

With wide eyes, she gasped, "Oh dear! I think I've just solved it."

Missile Impact Report

Roden -> Marcistar; Marcistar has been eliminated, she was a

New World Order Mafia

Not a surprising outcome

[Gamma Emerald]

ircher is probably scum

So ur saying my conspiracy was partly true

Honestly yeah
I see Ircher’s skygazer nuke as a mobius-double-reacharound attempt at towncred
This assumes Roden is town ftr

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, I know it’s early but I’d like to ask if I’m obvious town yet.

To me it’s obvious, but putting the pieces together on Marci interactions etc can be difficult for somebody that isn’t me and doesn’t see the game the same way.

Soft challenging the Marci defenders is not my speed. It’s either full throated defense or complete silence.

I feel good about you but I feel very wary about giving out absolute reads

[Gamma Emerald]

Klick's nuke is a bad look on the surface, but haven't really thought about it too much yet.

Why
I think he’s explained it effectively

[Gamma Emerald]

Then again, I’m basing my doubt on STD scum entirely on their depressed mood which is a big Nono. I think. Easily faked, just a short 3 posts. Not enough. And I’m still curious about why they decided to approach me identically to last time.

I’m also interested in why Marci decided to approach me as they did. Probably just because they normally suspect me and thought it’d be natural to do so. But could have been influenced by chain sawing/trying to distract me I guess.

Probably not tho.

I think we were angling for a push on you in LOST as well lol
I don’t have access to the group chat anymore so the source is that I am pulling this out of my ass

[Gamma Emerald]

Why
I think he’s explained it effectively

He has? Or is this sarcasm
All I saw was him challenging town reads on you.

Actually yeah you’re kinda right, I just forgot this was hashed out before

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah Klick said something like “Gamma plays this way as scum”, later said “she does this as both alignments” and failed to substantiate the read beyond that

[Gamma Emerald]

Where is Andante btw, I have 20+ posts more than her and that kinda feels wrong

[Gamma Emerald]

My sleep schedule seems like it’s finally normalizing after like a month plus of being omega-fucked
Being sick off my ass for the first couple weeks of September did not help

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah Klick said something like “Gamma plays this way as scum”, later said “she does this as both alignments” and failed to substantiate the read beyond that

Would scum!Klick really do that though? I remember rolling scum with him in a Mini Normal a while back and while he was fairly obvious scum I don't think he ever did anything that overtly strange.

I’m mainly just walking back my statement that it was sufficiently explained

[Gamma Emerald]

You’ve got 3 nukes targeting you so you might wanna hustle it up

[Gamma Emerald]

This probably means Andante is town.

I already believed that but I'm fine to believe it harder

[Gamma Emerald]

Ooh, this is fun to come into after leaving work lol. If that doesn't sink my teeth into the game I am not sure what will.

Mmm.
I guess I shouldn’t have aborted there. Rather maybe I should have. It’s best just to think even though I had forever . They slaved their shot to FB, so it doesn’t really count even though they should have hesitated slightly more with increased lethal as a pick.

They can do selective listenig. On the other hand, it puts them in an awkward position and then they asked FB for reciprocation as if they didn’t want to waste it.

And ya I gave my shit to FB, and yes what mainly for the lulz, but he made all the sense when he was basically stating the obvious, if you think T3 is scum then nuke em. Not that I think they were scum(FB I mean), or were or were scum read at all, but this more or less clears FB as well......maybe I will let him control all my nukes!

I also was mainly joking about me using FB's nuke, I didn't think for a minute they would reciprocate lol.

Oh also, I didn't understand why Klick was choosing Gamma to Nuke, but I think how they handled the abort and their explanation for it was townie

I don't think "this person was okay with me killing this other person and the other person flipped scum so the first person is town" is a foolproof concept based on experience

[Gamma Emerald]

How do you have a read on andante?

you don't?

[Gamma Emerald]

I AM ALIVE

Still going to nuke you.

I wanna nuke klick ngl.

I like neither of these

[Gamma Emerald]

It just emotional
Altho I also don’t get why T3 thinks you’re scum enough to nuke you here

T3 literally said "random nuking stage" right before nuking. how can u not read one page

FWIW my nuke was not random. I scumread marci a bit and wanted to see her reaction.

i don't believe u had a scumread

lol i was right back here

Wow! Incredible!

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Penguin is a good receiver of nukes

[Gamma Emerald]

Not this time

[Gamma Emerald]

according to that logic, i have done nothing this game.

I feel like that’s how a lot of people act when they say I’ve done very little in a game

[Gamma Emerald]

somehow, ircher has found the most optimally useless way to catch up with a game

Then how would you suggest catching up 30+ pages in the span of an hour? If I tried resuming reading from where I last was (page 30), I'd be accused of being perpetually stuck in the past.

If you did it mastina-style yeah
If you did it my way, where real-time interaction is mixed in, that wouldn’t be the case

[Gamma Emerald]

Why does the last couple pages from Chell and Gamma feel like they are just saying things to say things?

What is the point of this post?

[Gamma Emerald]

Why does the last couple pages from Chell and Gamma feel like they are just saying things to say things?

What is the point of this post?

You seem to just be shading FB, Chell just seems to be shading Ircher........but with no content behind the shade.

I don't know what you two are doing.

How in the fuck is your takeaway from my posts that I’m shading FB? At the very least, the more logical interpretation is that I’m shading Penguin!

[Gamma Emerald]

@FB, what is the source of your Cephrir paranoia? I feel like that might be useful based on how a I’ve read scum!Cephrir in the past.

[Gamma Emerald]

i feel cephrir has this annoyed tone in his posts from this game that i don't understand the source of.
it makes more sense him being annoyed that he is scum and his team is fucking up and falling apart imo

I think this makes sense

[Gamma Emerald]

according to that logic, i have done nothing this game.

I feel like that’s how a lot of people act when they say I’ve done very little in a game

I took this as shade to FB, am I wrong?

no it's just me carping about how people who don't know how to read me try to read me

[Gamma Emerald]

i feel cephrir has this annoyed tone in his posts from this game that i don't understand the source of.
it makes more sense him being annoyed that he is scum and his team is fucking up and falling apart imo

I think this makes sense

yeah I think gold has been struck
viewtopic.php?t=90243
Cephrir kinda displayed the exact same subconscious signals in this game that you seem to be picking up, FB

[Gamma Emerald]

What is the difference between this and standard Ceph seeming annoyed by the gamestate generally
Ceph is very capable of getting annoyed with games as town
What's different here

If you don’t see it I don’t know how to make you see it
But like, I think every time I have played against scum!Cephrir since 2021 I have picked up on something that tipped me off. So I feel reasonably confident in the scumflip happening here.

[Gamma Emerald]

Another thing about Chell town is that they haven’t been phased by the flips any.

No awkward comments. No seeming need to process and going quiet or at least seeming any different.

Gameplay equivalent of They’re not stuttering in other words.

Okay what, this feels counterintuitive
Scum would have less reason to double-take since they know the flips generally?

[Gamma Emerald]

initially t3 called me and unowen SvS

it was only right after my nuke on unowen failed that t3 started calling unowen town

so nuke to head id still say unowen is scum who desperately needs town to start dying

I see the thread here

[Gamma Emerald]

So speakith the survivor mod, survivor of one thousand survivors who could not identify a player as scum who literally models themselves after a survivor champion (Marci).

Say what now

[Gamma Emerald]

Then they tried to incorporate it into their mafia play with some success.

Which makes sense to me because survivor and mafia have a lot in common.

I say this as someone who has never watched a full episode of survivor, let alone a season.

As someone who has watched EVERY episode of US Survivor, you’re not off the mark imo

[Gamma Emerald]

That would means she’s quacking in her boots

[Gamma Emerald]

Trading speed for super-accurate attacks would be epic

[Gamma Emerald]

Not everyone speculates about mechanics in their scum PT.

That's not speculation of mechanics - that's ensuring your team knows basic functions of the game.

Some players just take being hit in the head with a metaphorical brick to fully process mechanics

[Gamma Emerald]

as in let u decide who i nuke, who would it be now?

Oh missed this as well.

I am not loving Ircher too much anymore, also Meuh(though didn't someone lob a nuke their way?), I also still say Adante isn't the obvtown everyone thought initially......and I believe T3 kinda defended her when I said that initially.

So between those three.

Who is Adante?

[Gamma Emerald]

I was kinda trying to be funny ftr, it was meant as a reference to a post Enchant likes to make

[Gamma Emerald]

Doctor Dew sounds like you’re mixing Doctor Pepper and Mountain Dew
they put house emm dee in da soder

[Gamma Emerald]

It's a pretty morning for nuclear annihilation

I love the smell of napalm in the morning

[Gamma Emerald]

I can’t parse that sentence

[Gamma Emerald]

the meuh nuke

you held it for this long in order to make a more informed decision and then nuked like that

I don’t see it

[Gamma Emerald]

i would suggest that we shut up during this dull time to give the behind people time to catch up but i wonder if they perhaps have no intention of catching up anyway

Who are the behind people?

[Gamma Emerald]

swoop

[Gamma Emerald]

Multiple players including myself can affirm this isn’t odd for FB

[Gamma Emerald]

I believe there were moments of actual solving by FB in his hydra game with Pooky

[Gamma Emerald]

what if I want to hero shot for SK

I think we’re gonna get there when we get there

[Gamma Emerald]

Imo, I think Andres should be nuked.

Same

[Gamma Emerald]

I haven’t checked if both the players that shot at Marci actually upgraded their lethality, but presuming for a second that they did, the odds of surviving two shots are (1 - 0.36)*(1 - 0.36) = 41.0%. You’re sitting there pretending like it’s an impossibility when it isn’t. It’s not the most likely outcome, but it’s also far from completely absurd. And in a world where you’ve taken two shots, you’re probably sitting there thinking “I’m very likely to get shot at multiple more times.” I can’t think of a better situation to shoot at your buddy and, in the likely situation that they survive your shot, you get to give them cover the rest of the game.

I hate that the figure of 41.0% is technically the proper rounded figure if you are rounding to one decimal point, it looks so wrong

[Gamma Emerald]

Would prefer hero plan to hero shot.

Wut

[Gamma Emerald]

I like a midground between hardcore planning and anarchy hero shots. I tried to do the hardcore planning thing once, it resulted in me getting miselimmed for going off the wrong plan and roleblocking, get this,

the fucking deepwolf

.

[Gamma Emerald]

If the plan was flawed and you didn’t communicate with people beforehand they’re going to think you’re anti town and kill ya.
That was an *anti-hero* shot

The current plan by Klick is not solid, but I can’t or rather I haven’t invested the time in to plug the holes beyond “force everyone else to invest in MMRV and supply, with a side of lethality” “make Bell the player that shoots everyone else”
“Scum claim until 10/10 upgrades on supply, speed, and lethality for me if anyone fires anything at anyone”

I was not fully present :/

[Gamma Emerald]

@FB That would be the funniest shit ever since Cakez has had issues with powerbussing before

[Gamma Emerald]

Dude I still think you’re town, it’s just funny to talk about

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Andante is a player that I fully trust aorn

[Gamma Emerald]

or maybe I just keep my basic nukes till endgame

Ftr this wouldn’t help, you lose any research you don’t use

[Gamma Emerald]

or maybe I just keep my basic nukes till endgame

Ftr this wouldn’t help, you lose any research you don’t use

I mean, we've killed 3 scum with basic nukes... seems like a solid plan to me

Basic means unupgraded right? Two issues:
> upgrades are effective immediately, otherwise we wouldn’t have had nukes with 24h timers today
> if you fail to upgrade during a week, you’ve wasted that weeks research

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Andante is a player that I fully trust aorn

Why though?

The vibe in response to the flips

[Gamma Emerald]

Even Andante can be reasoned with.

CAN THIS BE DEMONSTRATED

Idk why but this reminds me of
“Have you ever heard the sound of a rubber ball breaking a window?”
“Nuh-uh”
“WOULD YOU LIKE TO?”

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma is probably the towniest player in the game so that's fair

what makes you think that

This should be interesting

[Gamma Emerald]

ircher flip waiting room

You'll be disappointed. I nearly nuked you instead of Drew actually.

nah i think you made the right choice

people might still paranoia nuke me

the right choice how?

[Gamma Emerald]

ircher is scum here and needs to nuke an obv town that no one is ever going to nuke

people might still nuke me if the game goes on long enough

i don't think drew is ever getting nuked

I think this answers my question

[Gamma Emerald]

I think eliminating 3p suspects comes down to how players engage with the game at large

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay I may have made a mixed metaphor there

[Gamma Emerald]

Roden!scum feels a bit convoluted, especially if Ircher is scum

[Gamma Emerald]

the way he's playing, does not feel like 1 of 2 scum left needing to survive nukes

ur assumption that scum are playing to survive is immediately defeated by me pointing to both marci and andres.

well yeah and I'm saying we have 2 left, these 2 know it's on them, T3 was definitely planning to endgame, that's how he works, so if ircher was one of the 2 reaminaing he'd be different tbh.

Roden/dragons/penguin are good candidates for remaining scum I think

I wasn’t vibing with Penguin at one point but I think that was just a raw dislike of his takes

[Gamma Emerald]

can I nuke dragons? what are the reads there? cause I think he's not town

Good call

Nuke: StD

hrrrm

[Gamma Emerald]

Nuke: Doctor Drew

Hi Ircher! If you're somehow town and are just deliberately ignoring the association evidence and the general consensus that Drew is town - now is the time to abort your nuke. Or even just to engage in conversation about why people think Drew is strongly town. It probably won't save you, but it might save the towniest slot in the game if you decide this was a bad idea.

Your nuke was most likely just a scumclaim, but I figure this disclaimer is better than not giving one and just letting Drew die.

I'm not aborting a nuke once I start it, no matter how townie the slot becomes post-nuke.

this is a scumclaim and I will be nuking this if Chell's fails

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't think so. You've been at the bottom of my reads for most of the game.

[Gamma Emerald]

What's in it for me?

[Gamma Emerald]

That's your opinion.

[Gamma Emerald]

what is even the problem wrt Andante?

[Gamma Emerald]

what is even the problem wrt Andante?

Nothing really, she's very townie this game

that was for fire, not you

[Gamma Emerald]

what is even the problem wrt Andante?

Nothing really, she's very townie this game

that was for fire, not you

She is gonna nuke a bunch of town and won't be useful solving

I think your priorities are potentially skewed
What percentage do you put on Andante being scum/3p?

[Gamma Emerald]

then why are you focused on solving liabilities when town is ahead in the game?
@fire

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm trying to get you to not waste your nuke on the one player I feel best about being town
Andante is the one player thus far that I've eliminated as potential 3p

[Gamma Emerald]

reactions, mainly. My idea is she's felt completely unrestricted in her play, something I don't think would be the case for a 3p

[Gamma Emerald]

they could, but I find that improbable. Being third party warps your priorities.

[Gamma Emerald]

Just because someone is townsiding doesn't mean their first priority is to help the town

[Gamma Emerald]

Nuke Meuh and Ircher

Interesting

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah, the double nuke
Why is he going on such low odds to hit?

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah, the double nuke
Why is he going on such low odds to hit?

If he's upgraded it twice it's not really that bad

Would means he’s only upgraded lethality once

[Gamma Emerald]

I knew my shot was landing. I've been upping lethality.

Maximum lethality is currently 43%, wtf?

[Gamma Emerald]

Week 1 - Lethality and Quantity
Week 2 - Lethality and Speed

This is the inverse of what I did.

I think we did the same thing lol

[Gamma Emerald]

Location Unkown, Montana

Ircher laughed as the results of his latest attack came in,

Yes he knew it all along - the celebrity known as Drew was actually part of the world wide conspiracy that sought to gain control of the world through mindlessly dull daytime television.

He had been ranting about it for years but noone would believe him - but now he had finally with one stroke laid bare the truth for all to see.

Cranking up the generator he waited for the congratulations sure to come his way

yes finally they would acknowledge him as being

right

everyone who laughed at him when he declared for years that the evil lay at the heart of their world would be shown to be wrong.

Oh he couldn't wait

finally it was his turn to lead this new world

Chell -> Ircher, Ircher has been eliminated - he was

The Terrorist[Serial Killer]

YOOOO

[Gamma Emerald]

Explains a lot about his play

[Gamma Emerald]

i say we start going for all of klicks townreads

And if they all flip town, what then?

[Gamma Emerald]

We need at 2-3 players that we all basically agree are town and will not nuke on penalty of death. As long as we can accurately do that, we win.

stop trying to make the game no fun

I think this game has been plenty fun already
It’s time to sweat out the W

[Gamma Emerald]

We need at 2-3 players that we all basically agree are town and will not nuke on penalty of death. As long as we can accurately do that, we win.

stop trying to make the game no fun

I think this game has been plenty fun already
It’s time to sweat out the W

I think we can casually strut to the W in a 13 v 1

I’ve watched a fair amount of among us rounds where last imposter won with bad odds
Laziness is how towns clutch defeat from the jaw of victory

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah Gimli is scary as scum

[Gamma Emerald]

Nuke: Meuh

I’m just picking someone towards the bottom of my reads for now

[Gamma Emerald]

I think that's 3 nukes towards me right now
You guys really want me dead, but it'll never happen

If that’s the case then I am sorry, I was trying to not pile on anyone

[Gamma Emerald]

@pooky

what happens now since you missed my missile when I posted it

[Gamma Emerald]

It really is just a waiting game now huh

yeah

[Gamma Emerald]

@pooky

is there a way to skip the rest of a week once all nukes are fired and resolved?

[Gamma Emerald]

Check global announcements

[Gamma Emerald]

Wow don't all welcome me at once

game's a bit dead since we're waiting for the next round of production