MtG: Parallel Universe Mafia (Tar's subgame): Game Over
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Just because you do doesn't mean I do.Seraphim wrote:So, in summary:
Benmage has claimed 3rd party lover with DDD in FL's game. His win condition is get into the other game with his lover. If this occurs, they will both leave the game. Benmage wants everyone else to ignore him so that there will be no mislynches on him and so he will not get NKed.
Alright.
I'll buy it.
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I feel bad about someone getting a free ticket to endgame. With.literally.no.reason.for.it.Seraphim wrote:On that note, I think Pyro's latest accusation of Benmage being a cult recruiter or something makes him the most likely to be scum looking for an easy mislynch until he tells me why he thinks that's even remotely plausible.-
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I do read the game. I have been reading the game. I just don't think we should just ignore benmage. Also, I think he could be a cult recruiter because asking for no lynching him and BPV. That would give cult an auto win.Seraphim wrote:
WTF? Are you saying you don't read the game? How the hell do you play then?Pyromaniac wrote:
Just because you do doesn't mean I do.Seraphim wrote:So, in summary:
Benmage has claimed 3rd party lover with DDD in FL's game. His win condition is get into the other game with his lover. If this occurs, they will both leave the game. Benmage wants everyone else to ignore him so that there will be no mislynches on him and so he will not get NKed.
Alright.
I'll buy it.
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You still haven't explained why you believe his claim? You have no reason.Seraphim wrote:
Like I said earlier, reading is awesome. If you've been reading, his win condition is to be reunited with his lover, DDD in FL's game. This presents a problem as DDD is in another game. He wants to be ignored so that he can moved and reunited with his lover, thus allowing him to win the game.Pyromaniac wrote:
I feel bad about someone getting a free ticket to endgame. With.literally.no.reason.for.it.Seraphim wrote:On that note, I think Pyro's latest accusation of Benmage being a cult recruiter or something makes him the most likely to be scum looking for an easy mislynch until he tells me why he thinks that's even remotely plausible.
You still haven't explained how it's plausible for him to be a cult recruiter.-
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I have already explained why I think he is cult recruiter. I don'treallythink he is. I am just saying that I am not buying into this shit about not lynching him no matter what. I was saying what if he is cult recruiter? Obviously you can jump universes. There could be a cult recruiter in each universe.-
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I like what tajo says.populartajo wrote:I have a gut feeling that DDD is scum and that benmage got out of his control and that he is in damage control mode in this game. I think benmage is indeed what he is saying to be (read Tar's game). I dont see him lying that much and so fast. The thing is that I dont see any reason why both roles would need safeclaims unless one of them is scum and has a shitty flavor to hide.
But I think jammer is partially right, there is no need to waste a lynch on himyet. There is more than one way to get rid of DDD that doesnt involve lynching him. I wouldn't mind getting rid of him but Im very open to things developing and getting a better idea of what to do with him as the game progresses.
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I am.Seraphim wrote:
No one suggested no-lynching. Kairyuu misread one of your posts. Read, please.Pyromaniac wrote:
What? I never suggested no lynching. That was someone else.Kairyuu wrote:@Pyro: Why would we have to No Lynch to get rid of Benmage? We can lynch scum (you) and then if it's the town's will, we can switch Benmage to fl's subgame tonight.-
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No. Someone suggested it as an endgame plan.Seraphim wrote:
Lies. If you were reading, you would know that no one has suggested no-lynch yet.Pyromaniac wrote:
I am.Seraphim wrote:
No one suggested no-lynching. Kairyuu misread one of your posts. Read, please.Pyromaniac wrote:
What? I never suggested no lynching. That was someone else.Kairyuu wrote:@Pyro: Why would we have to No Lynch to get rid of Benmage? We can lynch scum (you) and then if it's the town's will, we can switch Benmage to fl's subgame tonight.-
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1 scum 5 town.Seraphim wrote:
...what?Pyromaniac wrote:Lets say there is 1-5 left in our game. And we are offered a chance to exchange with a game in lylo. We should exchange the most protown player in our game with the scummiest in theirs. But if we can just add a player to their game and both of these are 1-5.-
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I know this. However we could deal with the scum better in a subgame we were winning.Sajin wrote:
This is from the signups. Mafia can talk across the subgames.Tarhalindur wrote:Abilities may cause a player to change subgames (this can cause subgames to have more players than they started in), though players cannot be changed into a subgame that has ended. Factions with factional kills may kill one player each {period} in any subgame one of their members is in, but factions with factional communication (i.e, Mafia) may communicate with all other members of their faction outside the thread regardless of alignment.
Pyro wanting to simply remove scum from our thread does not facilitate a win overall. Especially as it is hinted that some factions may not get removed from the totality of the game when 1 subgame ends ( I would have to find that quote, I know its there somewhere). In fact I suspect that the mafia winning one subgame would have adverse if not catastrophic effects on other subgames.
Also- In to trade-Malthusis is lurking! *Snicker*-
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If the town won this subgame and it wasn't over for us (we could still jump games (by we I can't (or could, I just can't say "got to FL's game" and be there))) then we would want to move townies to other subgames and scum here so we can lynch them in a better position.Sajin wrote:Pyromaniac wrote:
I know this. However we could deal with the scum better in a subgame we were winning.Sajin wrote:
This is from the signups. Mafia can talk across the subgames.Tarhalindur wrote:Abilities may cause a player to change subgames (this can cause subgames to have more players than they started in), though players cannot be changed into a subgame that has ended. Factions with factional kills may kill one player each {period} in any subgame one of their members is in, but factions with factional communication (i.e, Mafia) may communicate with all other members of their faction outside the thread regardless of alignment.
Pyro wanting to simply remove scum from our thread does not facilitate a win overall. Especially as it is hinted that some factions may not get removed from the totality of the game when 1 subgame ends ( I would have to find that quote, I know its there somewhere). In fact I suspect that the mafia winning one subgame would have adverse if not catastrophic effects on other subgames.
Also- In to trade-Malthusis is lurking! *Snicker*
Interesting. I think the above quote of pyros indicates inside info.
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I don't even have my vote on him. I have already said I don't want him lynched. I don't believe his claim. And I don't like how everyone else does under little to no evidence.ChaosOmega wrote: Pyromaniac is the only person who's advocating a lynch.
@malthusis I know that would probably never happen. But if one side was in lylo and we were 1 scum - 7 townies then just maybe we should trade the towniest person on ourside to the scummiest person on theirs.-
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Flave, I don't remember anyone else off the top of my had and I am not going to look right now.Seraphim wrote:
S-s-s-specify, please, thank you.Pyromaniac wrote:Chaos omega has one non-confirm post iirc. Some people in fl's game are lurking. I don't like the role pm. And I don't like zito's reaction. I cannot be recruited. To what it does not specify.-
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My role name is strong-minded townie. Also, this is not a mind screw game, tar is not in the game.Seraphim wrote:I'm with Kairyuu on this one. I don't think his claim helps him at all. He's extremely lacking on the details...the "unrecruitable" part can't be proven at all. If it looks like a fakeclaim, it probably is a fake claim.
I still want to hear more from ChaosOmega besides dropping in with an opportunistic vote. Also, would be nice to hear more from Malt.-
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No. My role name is strong minded townie. Thats what it does.Sajin wrote:
So your a strong minded townie and an unrecruitable townie?Pyromaniac wrote:
My role name is strong-minded townie. Also, this is not a mind screw game, tar is not in the game.Seraphim wrote:I'm with Kairyuu on this one. I don't think his claim helps him at all. He's extremely lacking on the details...the "unrecruitable" part can't be proven at all. If it looks like a fakeclaim, it probably is a fake claim.
I still want to hear more from ChaosOmega besides dropping in with an opportunistic vote. Also, would be nice to hear more from Malt.
2 role names makes no sense. I smell something....vote Pyro-
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I have. As you have so aptly said READ THE GAME.Seraphim wrote:
This isn't a Mind Screw game as in the mod is actively seeking our destruction. But this is a Mind Screw game as in there are going to be mechanics/roles that will defy normal expectations of logic. Even his non-Mind Screw games have a tendency to include unorthodox mechanics.Pyromaniac wrote:
My role name is strong-minded townie. Also, this is not a mind screw game, tar is not in the game.Seraphim wrote:I'm with Kairyuu on this one. I don't think his claim helps him at all. He's extremely lacking on the details...the "unrecruitable" part can't be proven at all. If it looks like a fakeclaim, it probably is a fake claim.
I still want to hear more from ChaosOmega besides dropping in with an opportunistic vote. Also, would be nice to hear more from Malt.
Fully claim all your role parts. Your creature card, what abilities you have, and any other "cards" your role PM has.-
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I know it is a different mod but look up medieval mafia. And tar has probably done at least once. I'll check.Pyro: I agree that the way he changed his claim is weird, but I wouldn't look into it too much. Unrecruitable townie is simply a more common name than Strong-minded Townie, and I've seen people claim the name of a role very similar to theirs over the role's actual name.-
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No. I am saying that you are not playing this like a survivor. Which, if you think the subgames will merge, you should be.Benmage wrote:
. Are you saying a survivor that is a separate entity than the town? As in my scenario?Pyromaniac wrote:
No the other claimed survivor love- yes you.Benmage wrote:
Me?Pyromaniac wrote:What makes you think that you should play this role different then a survivor, since you evidently think the subgames are going to merge?-
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If all survivors claimed like this, what do you think would happen? Scum would claim survivor. So, the new correct thing to do when someone claims survivor would be to lynch them. So no, you are not playing like a survivor. This does not mean you are not one, however.Benmage wrote:
How am I not playing this in survivor mode. I just told everyone it is useless/not in their best interests to either kill me or lynch me. Hence letting me sit idly to endgame could be a logical course. I'd much rather be moved or shifted to FL's game or have DDD brought here and just fulfill my WC asap.Pyromaniac wrote:
No. I am saying that you are not playing this like a survivor. Which, if you think the subgames will merge, you should be.Benmage wrote:
. Are you saying a survivor that is a separate entity than the town? As in my scenario?Pyromaniac wrote:
No the other claimed survivor love- yes you.Benmage wrote:
Me?Pyromaniac wrote:What makes you think that you should play this role different then a survivor, since you evidently think the subgames are going to merge?
With sub-games merging.. Whose to know if this is the case. I suppose it makes sense seeing as I don't lose if another factions wins. So if a different faction winning doesn't end the game..or end my game I don't really know what's going to happen. Its to much speculation, and it's not really necessary.
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You are not playing like a standard, survivor. I wouldn't know how to play your claim.f they all claimed what??Partners with someone from another game. That takes two. Its quite the gamble. Many from the other game want to see DDD killed asap. I don't see scum opening the game taking a gamble the way we did. But whatever its all at your guys discretion. If I saw someone like this go down....I'd believe me, but I wouldn't let me see endgame, or would be really uncomfortable with it...who knows I'd have to see how the game played out till than.-
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Simple: Survivors do not claim. However, I have never played as a survivor. Claiming survivor turns very wifomy, very fast.Benmage wrote:
Alright and how have I acted in a non-survivor end in the equation that the sub games eventually end/merge or whatever and i'll eventually find my way to DDD even if not helped by another party...Pyromaniac wrote:But if the subgames are going to merge you are a survivor. If you survive long enough you will win. If that point is not the end of the game it does not matter. That very sentence awkward.-
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I don't buy into unbreakable alliance shit. It is worth noting that mufasa is very probably scum. He also wants to vig himself. O_o If mufasa flips scum then the rest of the alliance is probably clean and yos2 could be anything but is more likely to be scum. A mufasa lynch seems to get the most information.-
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They can read our game, you know.Kinetic wrote:Note about Benmage and DDD, the way that it is being handled in both games is remarkably different. In this game I have no problems letting Benmage slide for the time being, but in the other games multiple players have come out against any sort of sliding. Perhaps its is that what Benmage has revealed is greater than DDD and if the other games doesn't have that knowledge they can't draw the same conclusion, but it is something to notice.
Kenetic seems to have inner knowledge of the game. How does anyone know wether the role (if there is one(which there very probably is)) switches or adds?-
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WHat does fl's game think of this?Pyromaniac wrote:I don't buy into unbreakable alliance shit. It is worth noting that mufasa is very probably scum. He also wants to vig himself. O_o If mufasa flips scum then the rest of the alliance is probably clean and yos2 could be anything but is more likely to be scum. A mufasa lynch seems to get the most information.-
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