But I'm ready to play.
Didn't like your reaction to the vote.
I was initially going to say that DP just didn't see it and was waiting for an explanation before deciding if it was a scumtell; but with Doc's last post it has me much more on edge cause now that more people are weighing in against Ifrinn Doc decided to hop on without really knowing what it's about.Socrates wrote:-snip-
How does this compare to DocPotter, who has been more active than Nelly and has consistently talked AROUND the Ifrinn issue, and has yet to give a stance on it, despite me directly asking him?
Cute: the only way we find out what it does is to have whoever gets it tell us.Pomegranate wrote:I actually agree that the person shouldn't claim, but I think that maybe collectively we should choose a target for whoever has it, if we know what it does. Obviously there's a strong chance that the player won't listen, but I don't think that it does any harm.
Also, hi Tar!
Ruh?Charlie wrote:Hey Tarhalindur. You must be the dude who made the set of "standard scumtells" found in the wiki. I suppose it is a kind of a privilege to play mafia with you
Anyway, I'm kinda disappointed that you attacked me based on my first post.I asked myself after posting that, :"Is this scummy?"and I found myself answering "No." I'm learning new stuff as I play! (For the record this is my fourth game of online mafia, first ever non-newbie game)
The other half could be just talking in their QT and the ** is the representative so that we have the same posting style to look at. Either way, it doesn't matter as long as we're getting something from the slot; unlike you.thatguy00 wrote:I was kind of pondering if Ifrinns other half is going to have something to say. He said that we'd be able to differentiate them two by one of them posting in *something* type way.
I looked through all the Ifrinn posts, and not one of them isn't in asterisks. Is he ever going to have something to say?
I might be wrong on that, so don't hold it against me.
Bolding mine.thatguy00 in ISO 15 wrote:Ok, Soc. I've read the entire thread over and, yes, regarding post 69, I began to ponder over Ifrinn myself. I'm definitely thinking about placing my vote on him. He kind of rubs me the wrong way in thinking that we should decide on who grabs for an item based on whom we think is the most innocent.
Ponder the theory that if the scum decide to push a couple of their guys into grabbing the item, and let the town go for it, they will have atleast a 50% chance of nailing our guy with the item, assuming they didn't destroy it themselves. It appears to me, that he's trying to set up a plan to benefit himself and the rest of the scum.
So for that reason, I've decided to
vote: ifrinn
suggestion? They both want to have limited people (in Soc's case, 1) go for the item to help the town. This seems to be your only tangible point against Ifrinn, and it's equally "damning" of Socrates. Yet you wagon *with* Soc *against* Ifrinn. I don't see why (with your claimed reason for suspicion) that they're any different to you.Socrates in ISO 5 wrote:If we all agree on one player to get the item (say, someone who is a big question mark to the town) then we get a useful tool for determining that persons alignment.
Say we give someone a gun and then tell them to shoot someone else. We can confirm a townie and get a bonus lynch from that, and if they can't, we have a likely scum on our hands. (yea yea, watch out for a role blocker, I know.)
followed byjmj wrote:@bv130: I am still rereading and making notes. My rereads go me reading the wholr topic at a glance, then reading it in detail, then isoing everyone, so it takes me a while.
coupled withjmj wrote:@everyone: I have never been very good at going and pulling information from many pages of info, unless I have something specific to look for. So, ask me questions and I will answer them.
(only scum can be stupid? Riiiight)jmj wrote:Concerning Charlie and his comment:
That had to be one of the stupidest comments to make. To me, that seems like a huge scum-slip.
1) If Pom is town (which is my current read of her) then it's setting up a way for her to... trip herself up unnecessarily (not the wording I want, but you get the drift, hopefully). It forces her to look for connections when there might not even be any (and still have both be scum). Or look for connections between town and scum/town and town; both of which are (obviously) a waste of time since one of the pairing is town (and then could be attacked for her attack on a townie by tying them together)Glork wrote:Regarding my questions to Pom:
1) I don't understand how "do you think your top suspects are likely to be scumbuddies" implies any kind of knowledge about the game. I would love for you to explain this.
2) I was trying to get a feel for how critically Pom thinks about player suspicions in early-game. Her response was appropriate, and it gave me the information I wanted to know.
3) Regarding the "discredit" point, I don't see how that's relevant. Saying that two players could PLAUSIBLY be scum together does not mean that they are either both town or both scum. There is no avenue for discredit.
Ok, What the fuck is going on with this post (and how did I miss it before)?Charlie wrote:I think DocPotter is suspicious.
I'm interested in a name claim as I believe it would be more helpful to town than to scum. For the record, Socrates was Keith and he as a jack of all trades fits perfectly into the L4D theme. I mean he survived drowning, traffic accidents and lawnmower blades just to name a few! I'm going to miss him most.
Sad, now Louis shall never get his pills.
almightybob, what do you think?
That might be a possibility, but then use the extra information that neither kill looks like a vig. You're half-assing your scumhunting and the only other time that I noticed that from you you were scum in SWN II.Pomegranate wrote:Additionally, if scum think that a weak player received the pistol, they might not kill him simply because he could provide a few extra kills on townies.
Ok, this rubs be wrong for two reasons: you'd vig somebody that you thought hinted at a power role; and isn't the Soc kill getting mobbed/mauled or something? That doesn't sound like a vig at all. Kill flavor is one of the easiest things to keep from a video game to a MS game. Hopefully I can catch up more.DizzyIzzyB13 wrote:
Socrates is easy.There are a number of Socrates posts that indicate he may have had a power role that he turned out to have, which a scum team could pick up on in order to decide he is a good kill. On the other hand, he was the first person to jump to the Amished wagon that prevented a lynch yesterday, which I assume would have attracted a Vig's attention attention. I know if I had vig powers,I'd have probably killed Socrates last night.
Two thirds of your examples give scum either a mason (why the hell do you want to out them?) or a JOAT (same question). There's no logical reason to push for a name claim.Charlie wrote:Keith is a good buddy of Ellis. They may be masons.
Keith is described as one who took a lot of abuse and punishment. He may be a tough person to kill. He may be a survivor with a disadvantage, having been weakened with so much past abuse.
Keith made it through a lot of crap (like horrific accidents, drowning, etc.) but learnt to survive through it. He may be a jack of all trades.
See what I did there? Scum can only vaguely guess at a role with name claims. Anyway, with Glork silenced, I think I'm the only one who is keen on a name claim. Everyone else does not seem interested. Can we please discuss this?
jmj is easily in my top three, but with me staying alive/no shot flavor or anything like that I believe that the pistols were destroyed. I've still got a town read on Furry; Starbuck would've killed somebody else, bv got the bile and would've used one of his items if he got the guns I believe (and it's provable since if he dies we'll; which leaves thatguy who I had a strong scum read from yesterday as well.Dizzy wrote:Mmm, I would like an exmplanation of that from Amished.and being one of the people to stick on the jmj wagon yesterday, yet did not get back on it today.
This is the only thing that gets you posting? Where's a vig item when you need it?DeathNote wrote:LOL! That was clever. I got a prod saying I was at L-1 so of course I came and checked it out.
Just a gut read but from BV posting, I don't believe he got the bile, and that means if he didn't get it, he is probably scum.
FoS: BV