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I've played with him before and he's under the impression that I'm terrible at the game.Seraphim wrote:
What makes you say this might be a policy lynch?RichardGHP wrote:
If this is some kind of attemp at a Policy Lynch, please stop.curiouskarmadog wrote:vote richard
have I done this yet?
is it too early to say I am tunneling?
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Mafia 107. Link in my sig.Jahudo wrote:
If the games are over, can you provide links?RichardGHP wrote:
I've played with him before and he's under the impression that I'm terrible at the game.Seraphim wrote:
What makes you say this might be a policy lynch?RichardGHP wrote:
If this is some kind of attemp at a Policy Lynch, please stop.curiouskarmadog wrote:vote richard
have I done this yet?
is it too early to say I am tunneling?
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@farside: Forsrs? You're using elusive panic as your excuse to vote me? That's really pretty scum-like you know. Even if I was panicked, it wouldn't make me scum. Nobody wants to be lynched. The fact that I only had one vote on me is irrelevant. I addressed it in a manner I felt appropriate. Lastly, you have a rather interesting and extreme definition of 'obsessed'...
Also, yes, Mafia 107 is over, so you can look at it. Some reason I just never got around to updating my sig.-
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To be honest, I'm just being a jerk.Porochaz wrote:
125, 127 and this are fairly tantrum like. Please explain why, telling us all to vote for you when the very slightest bit of pressure is applied is not tantrum like at all.RichardGHP wrote:
I'm evidently the most anti-town player in the game, so you should just go ahead and lynch me. That's why.curiouskarmadog wrote:interesting....richard, why do you think it is protown to lynch you? (yes it is sort of trick question)
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Oh lawds. Two people from lolstralia.
@Sando: Anon is correct in his assessment of me. I don't know if I'd call myself frustrated, but certainly something along those lines. Also, your vote makes no sense whatsoever. You're voting me based on overreacting to one (followed by a couple more) vote(s)? Now that's just plain stupid. Even though I was nowhere close to being lynched, a vote is still a vote and I have a right to be... anxious about it. If you had even bothered to meta me you'd know that over-reacting is commonplace for me anyway.-
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Checking in quickly this morning.
Since many seem to be curious about my gambit, the whole premise behind the reaction testing part of my being a jerk was seeing exactly how people handled it. And yes, it did give me a couple of reads.
Faraday in Post 128 comes off as scum pushing for a mislynch, as the only reason he stated for voting me was the fact that I apparantly wanted to be lynched. Everyone asking to be lynched should be lynched is horrible logic too.
farside22 in Post 130 would normally give me a scum read, though I suspect it's within the realms of probability for farside to post posts like these.
Finally, Seraphim in Post 132 gives me a strong pro-town read, since scum would be more likely to use the fact that I wanted to be lynched as an excuse for a quickwagon. The fact that Seraphim takes the time to question my view tells me that he's town.
So yeah, that's mostly what I gained from my gambit.-
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Not scumhunting? How about you read Post 309 where I call a scum read on Faraday.
With that,Unvote; Vote Faraday.
Lastly:
That's my meta.Sando wrote:Richard:
You get voted, over-react
That's my meta.You get voted again, over-react again.
I think I have a right to be angry, and the hiding was unintentional.You get voted yet again, you get angry, go into hiding
God, I don't know, maybe I really was gambiting?You get called out for hiding, you come out and claim it was a gambit
What? Richard must be crazy guys that last sentence doesn't even make sense!!1111-
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farside22 wrote:
RichardFarady/bv/Anon______ scum team.
Nothing OMGUS about this at all.RichardGHP wrote:The way he voted me.
You are correct. That was not an OMGUS vote.
OMGUS: Oh My God, You Suck. The act of voting someone purely on the basis that they are voting you. My vote on Faraday was not because of him voting me, it's how he voted me, which can not be called OMGUS.-
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Like he is going to claim scum.curiouskarmadog wrote:
cool, of course this means that MME is scum.Patrick wrote:Amished replaces My Milked Eek. Srsly.
I think every time Amished replaces into a game that I am in..he is replacing scum...Amished..does this still hold true?
Not to mention that town tend to replace out more than scum do. Look at MME's ISO and decide for yourself, just my two cents.-
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It's a goddamn colloquialism. >_>curiouskarmadog wrote:you better have more than two fucking cents coming.
Catching up from Page 25 onwards...
So, like mason? Have you ever been third party or scum in a completed game?bv wrote:It wasn't a claim, it was an observation that in the last several games I've played (and been out in), I've had either VT or mild PR roles.
OK point, but you do realise that it's through and through WIFOM right?boberz wrote:In fact I dont think BV is scum after that. He definately tried to not claim anything he wrote roles. He was considering it. I think he has never seen any roles and thought every protown role was a VT. How could he do that as scum???
Take a step back everyone.
Albert B. Rampage wrote:What grade are you in again? Or did you grow up in the streets like bv?
Hey man, I don't know about you, but I'd like to play a peaceful mafia game wherein we don't question the intelligence or childhood circumstances of others. Kthnx.The Rules wrote:10.) Avoid excessive profanity, flaming etc.
On the boberz/bv issue:
Townies defend scum
Scum defend townies
Townies defend townies
Scum defend scum
Hey look. My point is, no one is automatically scum (or town) based entirely on the flip of someone else.
After the boberz/bv thing boberz starts coming off to me as either noob or frustrated town (or both).
No. I was questioning the validity of farside's vote on me. That's not OMGUS. Get your definitions straight.boberz, on me wrote:Post 5:
Scumhunts but against someone who is voting for him. OMGUS
[quote="""]Post 6:
No town should say this![/quote]
If you really wanted to attack that post, you would've said "No town would EVER say this!". This part comes across as really scum-like to me.
[quote="""]Post 7:AtE
And still no town should say this.
Beginning his second lurk session.[/quote]
None of them being outright scumtells.
Town use AtE
As if scum would say it
Lurking = nulltell
[quote="""]Post 13:
AtE
More lying [/quote]
Unless you have telepathical powers, you're not qualified to assess whether I was lying or not. And if you are, you need to fine tune your reading abilities, because I was clearly not lying.
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Self-meta (i dont mind meta, it is self meta I dont like)
Still lurking, another half hour he was obviously online and could have made some kind of case however weak.[/quote]
What's the difference when the meta itself was correct anyway?
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He decided to pretend he got some reads off his gambit, he did not he spent an hour or two reading and making up complete twaddle.
Reaction with farside was fence sitting here.[/quote]
Again, you're not qualified to make that assessment. I WAS gambiting, and the reads WERE genuine. End of story, no longer up for discussion.
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Lurking [/quote]
Frustration =/= AtE. Get your definitions straight (again).
[quote="""]More lurking
More self meta, which this time look sreally scummy. It is as if he is aiming to play to his meta, rather than his meta naturally following.
I dont even understand some of this stuff. It wasnt a gambit, we know that for a fact.[/quote]
Let me explain something to you here. There is no such thing as factual information in this game (bar roleflips). You simply can't correctly state that it's a fact I didn't gambit, because I did. You are not qualified to make the assessment of whether I was lying or not.
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he is defensive[/quote]
So you'd rather I agreed with the case against me, self-voted and deprived town of one member?
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Still not scumhunting, I think voting someone because of the way they voted for you counts as OMGUS in this case.[/quote]
OMGUS: Oh My God, You Suck. Voting for someone entirely on the basis that they voted you. A cheap shot at retaliation. My vote was unbiased in that the fact that he happened to be voting ME was irrelevant, I would have done it the same if he had voted any other player that way. Therefore, my vote was not OMGUS, period.
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Two days later still nothing. Lurking scum. [/quote]
The time between posts 23 and 24 was only 1 day and just over two hours. Get your facts straight. For reference:
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:10 pm Post subject: 23
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:12 pm Post subject: 24
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He promised content but failed, again.[/quote]
I didn't promise content in that post. Learn to read. You may have meant post 26, in which case I'll give you that. I ran out of time yesterday so I'm doing it now, the morning after.
[quote="""]I analyse every single post and you accuse me of IIoA??? [/quote]
He had a right to accuse you of IIoA. All you did was post oneliner comments on all of my posts, you didn't offer your own opinions, and the case in general comes off as contrived and half-hearted. You can't call that "analysis", really.
[quote="""]You may hate them it doesnt make them scummy. The conclusion is, Richard is scum, this is why so many of us have been on him for so long. The analysis was reading into the posts what they actually meant.
This is ludicorus.[/quote]
Lol'd quite hard at this, and don't really know what to make of it. I will say that yet again, your read is wrong.
[quote="""]NB FOR ANYONE NOT READING THIS POST PROPERLY I AM ADMITTING TO BEING WRONG[/quote]
Come on man, you're just getting worse and worse. Your preliminary inference of everyone who thinks your post is wrong is not reading it properly doesn't sit well with me. You have to be able to admit your mistakes, without sarcasm.
I obviously just got done defending myself; as for how I feel about my current situation, I'd rather people moved to scum as I feel they're wasting their time with me.Jahudo wrote:@Richard: are you still defending the case against you? what are you feeling right now about your situation?
Cool flaming bro.NickF227 wrote:You're an idiot.
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You got the definitions of AtE and OMGUS totally wrong, or at the very least didn't apply them to me very well.
Scum have tactical reason to lurk
Scum have personal reason to lurk
Town have personal reason to lurk
Town have tactical reason to lurk
Would'ya look at that.
Lurking is not exclusively or even predominantly performed by scum, so how can it possibly be a scumtell?
inb4 boberz posts a giant wall of text I have no hope of getting through.-
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Just to note, continually referring to someone as scum in second-person form ("You are scum, after all", "Alot of scum do this, you especially") is aVERYscum-like action and town don't really do it at all. It's like boberz is so hellbent on a mislynch on me. I know for a fact that I am town, so logically I have slight suspicion of everyone on my wagon - but my boberz suspicion is legitimate and valid.
I am now officially calling a scum read on boberz.
Unvote Vote boberz
NB TO ANYONE NOT READING THIS PROPERLY I AM ADMITTING TO OMGUSING.
/sarcasm-
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It's not when it's contained and in thrid person, but when you start doing it every other line directed AT that person, it becomes tunneling, which, if I flip town, you'll get hell for.boberz wrote:
Why is calling you scum a scummy thing to do?
Because of the way you are so hellbent on and sure of your case, when it is in fact wrong. The fact you can't even CONSIDER looking at it from my perspective is a large tell too.Why am I scum, you didnt actually explain this?
Good for you. I'm losing count of how many things you're getting wrong.I am calling OMGUS-
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Night everybody. In before end of day.Pomegranate wrote:Basically:
I started a post, but got all disoriented. I saw a lot of players opting for my lynch, or bv's. Apparently there is a case on me, but I didn't see it yet.
And the deadline is tomorrow, and I probably will have about 10 minutes of internet access until then.
So I'm gonna hammer bv. It seems like the best choice to me definitely.
Hey guys I'm scum who decided to lurk and make up some BS story to cover it and now I'm going to quickhammer
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The hammer itself was pretty bad, considering you didn't give much reasoning and left yourself in a position were you didn't look like you were open to discussion.Pomegranate wrote:
I wouldn't really call it a quickhammer; I mentioned that it was a consideration of mine previously that day (or the day before) I think. And deadline was approaching. So, no.RichardGHP wrote:Welp, at least we managed to hit mafia D1.
Vote Pom
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Jesus, what else did you expect me to do, vote for myself?Jahudo wrote:
This post would look genuine if it didn't come from you.RichardGHP wrote:The hammer itself was pretty bad, considering you didn't give much reasoning and left yourself in a position were you didn't look like you were open to discussion.
So, yes.
Richard, wouldn't you agree that you gave no reasoning to lynching BV besides self-preservation?
Go on, you know you want to! Give us your buddies while you're at it! Oh and claiming might be a good idea.Pom wrote:I also have a few town reads, but I don't want to share them.-
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Jahudo's 1184 states that I am "def. town" if Pom turns up scum... does this work the other way? Am I def. scum if Pom turns up town?
In a 20-player game I'd say we aren't dealing with any more than 4 or 5 scum, with the possibility of an SK. Any more than 6 anti-town players would be edging on unbalanced.Espeonage wrote:I have a question. What would be the average amount of scum we are dealing with here? This is by far the largest game I have ever been in and so I would like to have a ballpark amount.-
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Sando wrote:
I honestly can't believe we're getting into an end-game with play like this. Blatant opportunistic BWing on someone who's attacked them fairly consistently, and consistently falling back on being a 'bad player' to defend any scummy actions.Richard wrote:Sigh
Unvote; Vote: Sando
IoA and wishy-washy voting seal the deal.
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